Re: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction

2001-06-18 Thread Ray Olszewski

At 07:54 AM 6/18/01 -0400, James Barrett wrote:
I remember there used to be those places where you entered what you wanted
and an image was built for you -- do they still exist anywhere?

No, at least not if you mean in a LEAF or LRP context. There was modmaker, a
system used with LRP 2.9.3 to make modules.lrp packages. The same guy who
did modmaker, Paul Wouters (I think), did build a site that created custom
images (you might find its URL still listed on lrp.c0wz.com). As I recall,
though, the site wasn't maintained and does not work with any modern version
of LEAF or LRP.

But my memory could be wrong. Please check the links at c0wx to be sure.


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Re: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction

2001-06-18 Thread James Barrett

I would find it valuable as I have not yet been able to find anyone willing
to compile a 2.2.16 w/patches for VPN Masq'ing (or 2.2.18 or 2.0.38) kernel
with the FPU emulation for a 486SX2.

I can easily get the modules I need to build my own disk -- the problem I'm
having is finding the right compiled kernel.

Thanks,
-James

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 2:42 PM
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 Actually, I made the changes to Paul's modmaker to create LRPGen. Paul
 hosted it for a while to test it. I gave up on it when I couldn't make it
 work on WinXX machines with 1.68MB formats and it appeared that the newer,
 unofficial releases were getting more support and use. (Dave's attitude
 didn't help either.)

 I have given some thought recently to restarting it as part of the LEAF
 project. I will need a number of things to make it viable:
 - a version of rawrite which can support 1.68MB formats.
 - a description of the directory structure on sourceforge for the LEAF
project
 - ideas for defining the custom values in packages
 - an indication that this is worth the effort

 JamesS

 At 10:06 AM 6/18/01 -0700, Ray Olszewski wrote:
 At 07:54 AM 6/18/01 -0400, James Barrett wrote:
  I remember there used to be those places where you entered what you
wanted
  and an image was built for you -- do they still exist anywhere?
 
 No, at least not if you mean in a LEAF or LRP context. There was
modmaker, a
 system used with LRP 2.9.3 to make modules.lrp packages. The same guy who
 did modmaker, Paul Wouters (I think), did build a site that created
custom
 images (you might find its URL still listed on lrp.c0wz.com). As I
recall,
 though, the site wasn't maintained and does not work with any modern
version
 of LEAF or LRP.
 
 But my memory could be wrong. Please check the links at c0wx to be sure.
 
 
 --
 Never tell me the odds!---
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 Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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RE: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction

2001-06-17 Thread Tony

Morning all,

I think some of you missed my point.  I am not really interested in
using freesco, more to the point:

1. It was interesting to see someone trying to make a go of selling
computers with a floppy based firewall.

2. Since they claim it runs in 6 MB, I would be interested in seeing how
they have the web-based setup routine work in the limited space.

3. I wonder if the web based setup would be something that could be
adapted to LRP without alot of overhead (mainly space requirements).


I am glad to see some have used it before.  My question to you all is,
what is the setup routine like?  Was it comprehensive? Was it web-based
or text-based?  I have only tried Oxygen's setup a couple of times, and
it is effective, but unless you know the layout of the system and where
you should edit for your situation, it can be a little difficult to
configure.  Now, in all honesty, I have not RTFM's, I have perused
them and thought I could figure it out as I went.  I was only half
effective in that approach.

The weird thought I had was what if, like in Oxygen, you had a basic
boot disk, then you loaded whatever data disk you wanted, followed only
on the initial boot, a setup diskette.  The setup diskette would do the
grunt work of setting up the basic system (web-based with brief
explanations on the various screens of what needed to go where).  Then
you could use the package system to setup the individual packages as
needed.

I hope all that made some sense, and more importantly, I hope I have my
facts straight on Oxygen since I have only used it twice like I said.
It took me about a week the first time I tried LRP to figure out that
when I rebooted, the settings weren't being saved (ramdisk...D'OH!).  If
I am wrong, or misguided, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed
in the right direction.

Thanks,

Tony

P.S.  The DNS scans have faded out for the most part, but it seems to be
tied to that damn X-10 advertisement.  Whenever I have one pop up, I get
scanned.  I can go for a week or two, nothing, then boom, scan-o-rama.
I implemented the filter pointing to an external file with the IP's
listed and that has taken care of it.




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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kp vander
 kleut
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 06:38
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: David Zilm
 Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction


 Hi,

 last I checked (some months ago) Freesco did only Modem
 (PPP)lines,  no dsl
 or cable or ethernet, running on a 2.0.36 kernel. their
 webconfig is a nice
 setup though slightly confusing at times. Didn't try to find out more
 because I prefer 2.2.* kernels and use a cable modem. if you
 decide to try
 and adept some of it for LRP I would be intrested of course
 (as would others
 I presume).
 I read through their site quickly and found a newer release
 than the one I
 saw some time back, they apperently support eth-eth and cable
 nowadays,
 maybe I'll take another shot at it. I couldn't find a kernel
 version in
 their docs quickly, don't now whether they use ipchains or
 tables. (They do
 have a nice setup manual)
 Good luck
 Greetings Peter vanderkleut


 - Original Message -
 From: David Zilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:42 AM
 Subject: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction


 
   Message: 1
   From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:08:31 -0400
   Subject: [Leaf-user] OT: Now here's an interesting auction
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   First, Hi to all the recently displaced (?) LRP list
 members, glad to
   join you over here.  Second, sorry about the off topic
 post, but have a
   look at this enterprising lad:
  
   http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1245384063
  
   Has anyone tried this freesco yet?  I am not interested
 in using it, but
   I am interested in the web config they tout.  That would
 be interesting
   considering they say it runs in as little as 6 MB.
  
   Later
  
   Tony
  
 
  Yes. It works, but in my experience 8MB would be the limit
 these days.
 You
  cant load any additional monitoring functions in 12MB, so
 6MB is just a
 bit
  wishful thinking.
 
  32MB SDRAM should permit some utilities (like top,
 accounting etc) to also
  run.
 
  Like LRP, the P133 is an overkill for the job (gee's a 486DX66 would
  suffice for DSL)
 
  It does write some stuff to floppy/hdd though (config based stuff)
  automatically
 
  A unique way to sell a PC I suppose.
  --
  -
 
  Dave
  Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
 
  mailto: dzilm@!melbpc.org.au-without-the-!
 
 
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Re: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction

2001-06-17 Thread Michael McClure

About 8 months ago, when I was trying to get LRP up and running, I was 
getting very frustrated.  Freesco was configured in running in 15 
minutes and worked great.  The documentation and setup by script was 
easy.  I wanted the flexibility of LRP, though, but I couldn't get 
anything to load properly given the images that I had.  I had even tried 
a couple different custom-image configuration sites on the net with no 
luck...

Then I found EigerStein.

thanks, Charles.

mike.

Tony wrote:

 Morning all,
 
 I think some of you missed my point.  I am not really interested in
 using freesco, more to the point:
 
 1. It was interesting to see someone trying to make a go of selling
 computers with a floppy based firewall.
 
 2. Since they claim it runs in 6 MB, I would be interested in seeing how
 they have the web-based setup routine work in the limited space.
 
 3. I wonder if the web based setup would be something that could be
 adapted to LRP without alot of overhead (mainly space requirements).
 
 
 I am glad to see some have used it before.  My question to you all is,
 what is the setup routine like?  Was it comprehensive? Was it web-based
 or text-based?  I have only tried Oxygen's setup a couple of times, and
 it is effective, but unless you know the layout of the system and where
 you should edit for your situation, it can be a little difficult to
 configure.  Now, in all honesty, I have not RTFM's, I have perused
 them and thought I could figure it out as I went.  I was only half
 effective in that approach.
 
 The weird thought I had was what if, like in Oxygen, you had a basic
 boot disk, then you loaded whatever data disk you wanted, followed only
 on the initial boot, a setup diskette.  The setup diskette would do the
 grunt work of setting up the basic system (web-based with brief
 explanations on the various screens of what needed to go where).  Then
 you could use the package system to setup the individual packages as
 needed.
 
 I hope all that made some sense, and more importantly, I hope I have my
 facts straight on Oxygen since I have only used it twice like I said.
 It took me about a week the first time I tried LRP to figure out that
 when I rebooted, the settings weren't being saved (ramdisk...D'OH!).  If
 I am wrong, or misguided, I apologize and would appreciate being pointed
 in the right direction.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tony
 
 P.S.  The DNS scans have faded out for the most part, but it seems to be
 tied to that damn X-10 advertisement.  Whenever I have one pop up, I get
 scanned.  I can go for a week or two, nothing, then boom, scan-o-rama.
 I implemented the filter pointing to an external file with the IP's
 listed and that has taken care of it.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of kp vander
 kleut
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 06:38
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: David Zilm
 Subject: Re: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction
 
 
 Hi,
 
 last I checked (some months ago) Freesco did only Modem
 (PPP)lines,  no dsl
 or cable or ethernet, running on a 2.0.36 kernel. their
 webconfig is a nice
 setup though slightly confusing at times. Didn't try to find out more
 because I prefer 2.2.* kernels and use a cable modem. if you
 decide to try
 and adept some of it for LRP I would be intrested of course
 (as would others
 I presume).
 I read through their site quickly and found a newer release
 than the one I
 saw some time back, they apperently support eth-eth and cable
 nowadays,
 maybe I'll take another shot at it. I couldn't find a kernel
 version in
 their docs quickly, don't now whether they use ipchains or
 tables. (They do
 have a nice setup manual)
 Good luck
 Greetings Peter vanderkleut
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Zilm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:42 AM
 Subject: [Leaf-user] Now here's an interesting auction
 
 
 Message: 1
 From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:08:31 -0400
 Subject: [Leaf-user] OT: Now here's an interesting auction
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 First, Hi to all the recently displaced (?) LRP list
 
 members, glad to
 
 join you over here.  Second, sorry about the off topic
 
 post, but have a
 
 look at this enterprising lad:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1245384063
 
 Has anyone tried this freesco yet?  I am not interested
 
 in using it, but
 
 I am interested in the web config they tout.  That would
 
 be interesting
 
 considering they say it runs in as little as 6 MB.
 
 Later
 
 Tony
 
 Yes. It works, but in my experience 8MB would be the limit
 
 these days.
 You
 
 cant load any additional monitoring functions in 12MB, so
 
 6MB is just a
 bit
 
 wishful thinking.
 
 32MB SDRAM should permit some utilities (like top,
 
 accounting etc) to also
 
 run.
 
 Like LRP, the P133 is an overkill for the job (gee's a 486DX66 would
 suffice for DSL)
 
 It does