Re: [leaf-user] BGP
Hi all I could not find any documentation about the relevan between BGP and the size of capacity contract. CMIIW that any one can request a /20 IP / AS-number allocation from the NIR as long as they can fulfill all the condition, and AFAIK the most important condition is about usage plan and multi-homed. Usualy ISP have huge IP allocation and they can (or have to ?) allocate /24 to their customer as long as the customer have ability to take responsible (technicaly and administrative) of this allocation. Basicaly AFAIK ... IANA never bundle the IP/AS-number allocation procedure to a pipe-size. CMIIW Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: Peter Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'William Burns' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:30 AM Subject: RE: [leaf-user] BGP I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP) I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces. You'll never get any ISP to peer BGP with you for 2 T1 lines. Sorry. The best option for you if your requirement is NAT-centric is http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html. (See Julian's kernel patch at the end!). Alternatively if you need external site failover maybe buying an F5-3DNS (DNS failover) or cheap round-robin DNS will work for you. From what you said, I should be looking for a motherboard w/ dual gigabit interfaces. (either Intel e1000 or Broadcom bcm5700) NICs are important, but not at dual-T1 speed. It becomes important in 20mbit+. I think you'd be fine with eepro100's or bcm5700 (with tg3), or anything onboard on a decent server. If you have extra $ the Intel gigabits are great. Eepro's are the most popular NIC in servers so you can't go wrong there. We use Dell PE 2650's here with CF/IDE adapters, 4 extra ports from Intel cards, and dual power supplies. They are exponentially faster than what we used previously, Cisco 3640 series. They were also exponentially cheaper, though you might find a set of 3640's for sale on Ebay for $10k or so. That having been said you probably won't get fired for buying a Cisco but you might for your LEAF solution if it doesn't work right. Be sure to budget extra time from the start to get all the pieces talking right to each other. VRRP is... Virtual Redundancy Router Protocol? Is this an alternative to BGP, or is it something that complements it? Compliments. It's like HSRP for Cisco. Actually VRRP is the protocol that HSRP is built on. http://www.keepalived.org Cheers, P --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] BGP
I am also using bering-uclibc+quagga packeages for ospfd and bgp. works great Where is the Quagga package? BTW if you want VRRP there is a keepalived package available. I am using one I made a long time ago, but I thought someone else made a newer one with ipvs support, too.. do bering/bering-uclibs support napi stright out of the box. it's a looong time since i last looked at napi. If you use the right kernel driver it is 'out of the box' with any kernel = 2.4.20. For example, Intel gigabit cards with e1000 driver. I have heard that tg3 (bcm5700) is also not bad, so long as your kernel is very recent (= 2.4.25?). Caveats: -Don't use SMP. (I think hyperthreading probably falls into this category). -Use 64-bit cards. -Use PCI-X. -Get a nice big fast processor ( 2ghz ). References: http://datatag.web.cern.ch/datatag/howto/tcp.html ftp://robur.slu.se/pub/Linux/net-development/NAPI/README ftp://robur.slu.se/pub/Linux/net-development/NAPI/NAPI_HOWTO.txt Cheers, P --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] BGP
I was thinking of building a BGP aware router (W/ only ethernet interfaces) and having it communicate w/ the 2 ISPs through the existing cisco routers. I've been told that BGP routers can't do that and that I need a single BGP aware router w/ 2 v.35 interfaces on it. Is that true? If so, where do I get V.35 interfaces for use w/ LEAF? I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP) I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces. Peter: Thanks for the feedback and the additional info on recommended hardware for the PC-based sysem. From what you said, I should be looking for a motherboard w/ dual gigabit interfaces. (either Intel e1000 or Broadcom bcm5700) Sorry for the newbie angle here, but... VRRP is... Virtual Redundancy Router Protocol? Is this an alternative to BGP, or is it something that complements it? -Bill Peter Mueller wrote: I am using the Bering bgpd.lrp package here. It's been working fine for 1+ years. Quagga is the less bug-ridden software but for BGP it doesn't really matter. I don't know what BIRD is. If I was comparing a LEAF, or other Linux based solution to either a $2500, or a $10,000 cisco router based solution, would the LEAF/Linux solution be comparable (in uptime+performance) to a cisco? Yes. I use CF-IDE flash dual power. Price/performance is much better. A p4 server with intel gigabit NICs and NAPI enabled will kick serious ass. P --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] BGP
Sangoma, Cyclades, Moxa Basicaly .. any WAN card brand that come with open-source linux driver Sincerely -bino- - Original Message - From: William Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [leaf-user] BGP I was thinking of building a BGP aware router (W/ only ethernet interfaces) and having it communicate w/ the 2 ISPs through the existing cisco routers. I've been told that BGP routers can't do that and that I need a single BGP aware router w/ 2 v.35 interfaces on it. Is that true? If so, where do I get V.35 interfaces for use w/ LEAF? I've got 2 T1s w/ two different ISPs (hence the desire to use BGP) I already have two dinky cisco routers w/ v.35 interfaces. Peter: Thanks for the feedback and the additional info on recommended hardware for the PC-based sysem. From what you said, I should be looking for a motherboard w/ dual gigabit interfaces. (either Intel e1000 or Broadcom bcm5700) Sorry for the newbie angle here, but... VRRP is... Virtual Redundancy Router Protocol? Is this an alternative to BGP, or is it something that complements it? -Bill Peter Mueller wrote: I am using the Bering bgpd.lrp package here. It's been working fine for 1+ years. Quagga is the less bug-ridden software but for BGP it doesn't really matter. I don't know what BIRD is. If I was comparing a LEAF, or other Linux based solution to either a $2500, or a $10,000 cisco router based solution, would the LEAF/Linux solution be comparable (in uptime+performance) to a cisco? Yes. I use CF-IDE flash dual power. Price/performance is much better. A p4 server with intel gigabit NICs and NAPI enabled will kick serious ass. P --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg=12297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
Re: [leaf-user] BGP
Am Donnerstag, 22. April 2004 21:45 schrieb Peter Mueller: I am also using bering-uclibc+quagga packeages for ospfd and bgp. works great Where is the Quagga package? B See http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=91017page_id=51 Packages 3) and 98) kp --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Robotic Monkeys at ThinkGeek For a limited time only, get FREE Ground shipping on all orders of $35 or more. Hurry up and shop folks, this offer expires April 30th! http://www.thinkgeek.com/freeshipping/?cpg297 leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] BGP
Is LEAF capable of BGP route propagation? I hear that there are packages that support BGP called: Zebra http://www.zebra.org/ Quagga http://www.quagga.net/ and BIRD http://bird.network.cz/ Is one of these supported by LEAF? Are any of them recommended by anyone? I am using the Bering bgpd.lrp package here. It's been working fine for 1+ years. Quagga is the less bug-ridden software but for BGP it doesn't really matter. I don't know what BIRD is. If I was comparing a LEAF, or other Linux based solution to either a $2500, or a $10,000 cisco router based solution, would the LEAF/Linux solution be comparable (in uptime+performance) to a cisco? Yes. I use CF-IDE flash dual power. Price/performance is much better. A p4 server with intel gigabit NICs and NAPI enabled will kick serious ass. P --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
RE: [leaf-user] BGP
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 02:04, Peter Mueller wrote: Is LEAF capable of BGP route propagation? I hear that there are packages that support BGP called: Zebra http://www.zebra.org/ Quagga http://www.quagga.net/ and BIRD http://bird.network.cz/ Is one of these supported by LEAF? Are any of them recommended by anyone? I am using the Bering bgpd.lrp package here. It's been working fine for 1+ years. Quagga is the less bug-ridden software but for BGP it doesn't really matter. I don't know what BIRD is. If I was comparing a LEAF, or other Linux based solution to either a $2500, or a $10,000 cisco router based solution, would the LEAF/Linux solution be comparable (in uptime+performance) to a cisco? Yes. I use CF-IDE flash dual power. Price/performance is much better. A p4 server with intel gigabit NICs and NAPI enabled will kick serious ass. do bering/bering-uclibs support napi stright out of the box. it's a looong time since i last looked at napi. I am also using bering-uclibc+quagga packeages for ospfd and bgp. works great mvh -- Ronny Aasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click leaf-user mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user SR FAQ: http://leaf-project.org/pub/doc/docmanager/docid_1891.html
