[LEAPSECS] timekeeping resources for 2024?

2023-12-27 Thread Seaman, Robert Lewis - (rseaman)
Happy Holidays,

I started to reply to recent emails, but all issues except one have been 
discussed over and over again on the mailing list and at the various workshops. 
So, my Christmas gift to you all is not to reply, and to myself was to dust off 
the login and server info for the futureofutc.org site (it has passed through a 
succession of web hosting companies and tech suites). I have updated the links 
for the presentations, discussions, and preprints for the 2011 and 2013 
workshops to point away from the original lost host at Caltech. The 2014 
session at the American Astronomical Society meeting is thrown in for good 
measure:

http://futureofutc.org
http://futureofutc.org/2011
http://futureofutc.org/aas223

Please advise of any remaining broken links (some of the 3rd party links have 
gone stale, for instance) and suggest additional online resources to add to a 
new 2024 links tab. Folks with institutional access might want to also download 
the proceedings from “The Science of Time 2016”:

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2017ASSP...50.A/abstract

For example, see chapter 28: “How Gravity and Continuity in UT1 Moved the 
Greenwich Meridian”, by Malys, Seago, Pavlis, Seidelmann, and Kaplan.

The one issue that has not been sufficiently addressed is the standards, 
protocols, funding, and logistics for future infrastructure supporting mean 
solar time now that UTC won’t. (UT1 is an observational time scale that is only 
known a couple of months after the fact.) Perhaps significant work has been 
done recently on these infrastructure issues. Pointers would be welcome.

Other custodians of civil time resources are encouraged to review and enhance 
them in 2024.

Best wishes to all in the New (leap) Year!

Rob Seaman
Lunar and Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona
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Re: [LEAPSECS] UT1 offset

2023-12-27 Thread Jim Lux
Let’s back of the envelope the impact of a 1 second error in a longitude sight.
The Sun moves 360 degrees in 86400 seconds. A one second error is then about 
0.004 degree.  But in equatorial km, let’s assume 40,000 km circumference, so 
40,000 km in 86,400 seconds (yeah, it’s actually less, sidereal day and all 
that). Or an error of about 1/2 km.

For the vast majority of boat driving purposes, this is sufficiently accurate - 
you need to get to within visual range of the coast, so you can get into the 
desired port.

For flying a plane by celestial navigation, you might care more, because the 
plane is flying faster than a boat moves.


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> On Dec 26, 2023, at 7:10 AM, Gary E. Miller  wrote:
> 
> Yo Hal!
> 
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 00:25:07 -0800
>> Hal Murray  wrote:
>> 
>> Who uses DUT1 via radio?  Who will be using it 50 years from now?
>> 
>> Is it needed for anything other than navigation and astronomy?
> 
> I just asked my brother that did a lot of transoceanic navigation
> by sextant.  He did not even know what UT1 is.  He certainly would
> not know what to do with DUTs. 
> 
> RGDS
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