Re: [LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
On 2008-04-08, Steve Allen posted an interesting NY Times article of 1882-01-17 on International Time. The article states that the Third International Geographical Congress (TIGC) of 1881-09 was held in Vienna. This is incorrect: that congress convened not in Vienna but in Venice (which arguably is nicer in September anyway). See for instance [Derek Howse: "Greenwich Time and the Longitude". pages 130..131 in the 1997 edition]. Michael Deckers ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs
Re: [LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
M. Warner Losh wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp writes: I can live with International Time as a name, but would far prefer to have it be Terrestial Time, so it names the rock in question. Or better yet, Earth Terrestial Time or Earth Normal Time or Commercial Time, since TT already is an abbreviation for some other timescale... Um...TT is the abbreviation for "Terrestrial Time". It isn't the rock that places requirements on civil timekeeping, it is our internationally diverse civilization that derives requirements from the rock. For instance, the Mars rover project derives additional requirements from another rock. Rob ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs
Re: [LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes: : : >Oh yeah! I also heartily support Steve's implicit message here. : >Rather than trashing one timescale, let's just simply complete the : >proper system engineering started in the Nineteenth century and call : >any such new timescale "International Time". : : It has always seemed very pretentious to me, that a timescale bound : tightly to a particular rotating rock was called "Universal". Hmmm, tightly rotating rocks : I can live with International Time as a name, but would far prefer : to have it be Terrestial Time, so it names the rock in question. Or better yet, Earth Terrestial Time or Earth Normal Time or Commercial Time, since TT already is an abbreviation for some other timescale... Warner ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs
Re: [LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Seaman writes: >Oh yeah! I also heartily support Steve's implicit message here. >Rather than trashing one timescale, let's just simply complete the >proper system engineering started in the Nineteenth century and call >any such new timescale "International Time". It has always seemed very pretentious to me, that a timescale bound tightly to a particular rotating rock was called "Universal". I can live with International Time as a name, but would far prefer to have it be Terrestial Time, so it names the rock in question. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs
Re: [LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
Steve Allen wrote: Popular spreading of the notion of International Time for telecommunications, using that name, predates the 1884 International Meridian Conference. The New York Times reported on that in 1882. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9F06E6DF123BE033A25754C1A9679C94639FD7CF&oref=slogin The most obvious thing about that newspaper article is how extremely well written it is. Forget about declining standards of timekeeping - the standards of journalism are atrocious today. My new pet project is to restore the U.S. Central timezone to the wonderfully poetic name of Mississippi Valley time. We should also start prepending the implicit "Rocky" in front of Mountain time. As a loyal, albeit prodigal, son of Philadelphia, I champion the proper recognition of Mr. Balboa. The name Atlantic time from the NYT article was ultimately assigned to a different zone, of course. One also wonders about the Eastern timezone of North America, which is the Western timezone of South America. Oh yeah! I also heartily support Steve's implicit message here. Rather than trashing one timescale, let's just simply complete the proper system engineering started in the Nineteenth century and call any such new timescale "International Time". Rob Seaman NOAO ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs
[LEAPSECS] TI incunabula
Popular spreading of the notion of International Time for telecommunications, using that name, predates the 1884 International Meridian Conference. The New York Times reported on that in 1882. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9F06E6DF123BE033A25754C1A9679C94639FD7CF&oref=slogin -- Steve Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick ObservatoryNatural Sciences II, Room 165Lat +36.99855 University of CaliforniaVoice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m ___ LEAPSECS mailing list LEAPSECS@leapsecond.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs