Re: Wikipedia article

2007-01-03 Thread Zefram
Brian Garrett wrote:
   Besides, the English term leap second is a misnomer--a leap year is
a year with an extra day in it (and the inserted day is *not* called a leap
day)

Actually it *is* called a leap day.  It is the leap year terminology
that is the odd one out.

-zefram


Re: Wikipedia article

2007-01-02 Thread Zefram
Ed Davies wrote:
However, it's a horrible article and really needs reorganization
as some of the paragraphs have suffered serious mission creep.

I edited quite a lot of time-related articles last year, and couldn't
figure out what to do with it.  I started off with the articles on
astronomical time scales, and worked in conceptual sequence over towards
[[Coordinated Universal Time]].  [[International Atomic Time]] is mostly
my work, but UTC is on the other side of the obscure/mainstream divide,
and from there on I found myself hindered by other well-meaning editors.

It seemed silly to me to have [[leap second]] distinct from [[UTC]]: leap
seconds are the defining feature of UTC, after all.  So my first effort
was to merge them.  This was too controversial, and my formal proposal
to do it was roundly defeated.  In retrospect, I think the mainstream
view of UTC is as the base timezone, though that is really the job of
the generic UT.  Leap seconds seem to be viewed as an unimportant detail.

I put as much as I could into [[UTC]].  It duplicates some of what is
in [[leap second]].  I don't have a clear concept of what belongs in
[[leap second]] that doesn't belong in [[UTC]], so in the end I left it
as a collection of miscellaneous bits, which was pretty much how I had
found it.

Paragraphs and sections suffering mission creep has also occurred a bit in
[[UTC]].  I failed to disentangle it all.

I don't even like the first sentence.  Intercalary seems wrong
to me as a leap second is part of the day it is applied to, not
between days.

Intercalary is precisely the correct term.  An intercalary day,
as we have in the Gregorian calendar, is inserted between other days;
an intercalary month, as in the Jewish lunisolar calendar, is inserted
between other months; both are part of the year to which they are applied.
An intercalary second is inserted between other seconds, and is part of
the day to which it is applied.

-zefram


Re: Wikipedia article

2007-01-02 Thread Brian Garrett
- Original Message -
From: Ed Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LEAPSECS@ROM.USNO.NAVY.MIL
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: [LEAPSECS] Wikipedia article


 Thanks to those who confirmed the ITU text on when leap seconds can
 be applied.

 I've made two small edits to the Wikipedia article to correct
 parts which were wrong or potentially misleading (plus a slightly
 tongue-in-cheek remark in the discussion page)

 However, it's a horrible article and really needs reorganization
 as some of the paragraphs have suffered serious mission creep.

 I don't even like the first sentence.  Intercalary seems wrong
 to me as a leap second is part of the day it is applied to, not
 between days.  I thought about changing it but decided I might
 be being a bit blinkered in my definition of intercalary.
 Thoughts?

 Ed.

The French-language term for leap second is second intercalaire, so
calling a leap second intercalary has a linguistic precedent if nothing
else.  Besides, the English term leap second is a misnomer--a leap year is
a year with an extra day in it (and the inserted day is *not* called a leap
day) so by analogy the insertion of a second should probably have been
termed a leap minute.  But that's all cesium over the dam, now.


Brian