Re: [LEDE-DEV] Planning v17.01.2

[Philip Prindeville]

> On May 25, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Lucian Cristian  wrote:
> 
> On 24.05.2017 23:34, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'd like to start preparing the v17.01.2 release during the upcoming
>> weekend with the goal to release final binaries within the next week
>> (~May 29th till June 3rd).
>> 
>> Changes that shall be part of 17.01.2 should be merged until Sunday, the
>> 28th.
>> 
>> You can find the current list of changes since v17.01.1 at
>> https://lede-project.org/releases/17.01/changelog-17.01.2
>> 
>> The most notable change is a security fix affecting the builtin dropbear
>> SSH server. While the default configuration does not appear to be
>> vulnerable, we still should provide updated images as soon as possible.
>> 
>> 
>> If you want specific fixes cherry-picked/backported to lede-17.01,
>> please mention them in a reply to this mail.
>> 
>> If you have any objections to the release time frame, please speak up
>> 
>> 
>> Like with the last 17.01.1 service release, there is no dedicated RC
>> phase planned.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jo
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> it would be cool if we move in the modern age and have the usb HID included 
> by default
> 
> not merged: https://github.com/lede-project/source/pull/1125
> 
> regards


+1 (since been merged I think)


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Re: [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Devel] Remerge logo ideas

[Philip Prindeville]

Can we add “Powered by LEDE” in little tiny letters underneath?  ;-)


> On May 29, 2017, at 4:11 AM, Jamie Stuart  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> First of all, I’m glad to hear the process of remerging LEDE with OpenWrt is 
> moving forward.
> For what it’s worth, if prefer the LEDE name (it’s friendlier - ‘leddy’ - and 
> not tied to the name of an old router!)
> 
> However, it seems the consensus is that the OpenWrt name should remain. I 
> thought that maybe we should take this opportunity to at least give the 
> project an updated look?
> Maybe a new logo? I’m personally not one for mascots, so I had a quick go at 
> a few simple text-based designs:
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/9zyXSYR.png
> 
> What are you thoughts?
> 
> Jamie, onebillion


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Re: [LEDE-DEV] Planning v17.01.2

[Cezary Jackiewicz]

Dnia 2017-05-24, o godz. 22:34:20
Jo-Philipp Wich  napisał(a):

> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to start preparing the v17.01.2 release during the upcoming
> weekend with the goal to release final binaries within the next week
> (~May 29th till June 3rd).
> 
> Changes that shall be part of 17.01.2 should be merged until Sunday, the
> 28th.
> 
> You can find the current list of changes since v17.01.1 at
> https://lede-project.org/releases/17.01/changelog-17.01.2
> 
> The most notable change is a security fix affecting the builtin dropbear
> SSH server. While the default configuration does not appear to be
> vulnerable, we still should provide updated images as soon as possible.
> 
> 
> If you want specific fixes cherry-picked/backported to lede-17.01,
> please mention them in a reply to this mail.

1861869 ramips: dont replace the board name

Should be backported. Without this, does not work sysupgrade, led and 
switch config on specific board like Nexx wt3020 or wt1502.

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Devel] Remerge logo ideas

[Bill Moffitt]

Carlos-

I don't think it matters what it's called to the OpenWrt/LEDE community 
- we have exhibited, shall we say, remarkable flexibility in the last 
few years, I think... ;-)


And, in fairness, I don't disagree with you - I think OpenWrt is a 
terrible name, one we would never choose if we were starting from 
scratch. Just to ensure that I annoy EVERYONE equally, I dislike LEDE as 
a name just as much. That is not to suggest I have something better in 
mind... I'm just chipping in from the cheap seats.


HOWEVER, OpenWRT is a name that has a fair bit of "equity" - it is known 
and recognized far beyond the OpenWrt community. I am confident that, if 
we did a name-recognition study among random geeky folks, a good 
percentage of them would recognize OpenWRT. Even though it harkens back 
to a long-since defunct Linksys router, and it does, therefore, carry 
that inaccurate "routers-only" baggage, that equity has some significant 
value in the "marketplace of ideas" and in the commercial market.


Having a known brand helps us in many ways, from getting resources to  
attracting people to the community. It takes a long time and a lot of 
energy to build a recognized brand - it is expensive - so it is foolish 
to discard it without careful thought.


It comes down to a simple calculation - the value of the brand as it 
exists, minus some amount for the fact that it is now somewhat 
inaccurate. My own analysis is that the net is still VERY positive, so 
renaming/rebranding is a bad idea. And a new logo will reinforce that value.


So it's a bit like Churchill's famous quotation about democracy - I 
think OpenWrt is the worst possible name, except for any of the others. 
Hence, OpenWrt is the right name.


-Bill


On 6/2/2017 3:35 AM, Carlos Ferreira wrote:

@Mirko and  @Bill

I had the same thoughts in the past. OpenWRt has evolved into a much
more diverse and generic embedded development environment.
It no longer serves only the Wireless community interests or used just
in Wireless Routers. It goes much beyond that.

Also, in my opinion, LEDE would be better and honestly, those who use
OpenWRT already know what LEDE is. There's no branding issue here and
LEDE, for me, is a much proper project name, which refers the current
real use of OpenWRT.

Also, I always believed it should be OpenWRt with capital WR. Why?
Isn't suposed to be Open Wireless Router? :)

Carlos.

On 30 May 2017 at 20:34, Bill Moffitt  wrote:

On 5/30/2017 12:15 PM, Mirko Vogt wrote:

Huhu,

looks great to me and it's definitely the right timing for a logo change
:)
Me who came to OpenWrt for porting it to a mobile phone and continued
with pictures frames, mini-notebooks and landline phones, I never
considered OpenWrt as a plain wifi router distribution/toolchain but one
for every kind of embedded devices.
Although I know it's coming from there and the name still reflects it,
I'd appreciate more "embedded" than "wifi/antenna" in a logo, though
having no idea how to do that :)
Please don't consider that as complaint or even objection towards your
drafts.
It's just some input which might or might not be taken into account in
the end.

Thanks for your work!

mirko

Mirko-

I just wanted to say that I had the same reaction (because I think LEDE is a
good idea), and then I thought about it a while.

The truth is that just about all the embedded devices coming up are going to
have some sort of a wireless component, and in many cases the "wirelessness"
of the device or application is just as important as the "embeddedness." The
current popularity of the ESP8266 is proof of this (although it doesn't
currently run OpenWRT) - there are lots of educational devices out there to
connect sensors and measure things, but, when they have a wireless
connection on them, suddenly they are a LOT more interesting for practical
applications.

I decided that I actually liked having the symbolic reference to
radio/wireless/etc/ in the logo. I choose to view it not as a WiFi router,
but just something that's wireless.

Just my own 2 cents worth,

Bill



On 05/29/2017 12:11 PM, Jamie Stuart wrote:

Hi,
First of all, I’m glad to hear the process of remerging LEDE with OpenWrt
is moving forward.
For what it’s worth, if prefer the LEDE name (it’s friendlier - ‘leddy’ -
and not tied to the name of an old router!)

However, it seems the consensus is that the OpenWrt name should remain. I
thought that maybe we should take this opportunity to at least give the
project an updated look?
Maybe a new logo? I’m personally not one for mascots, so I had a quick go
at a few simple text-based designs:

http://i.imgur.com/9zyXSYR.png

What are you thoughts?

Jamie, onebillion
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Re: [LEDE-DEV] Archer c7 corrupted firmware bootloop - tftp aborting - serial not working

[QWeRKUS qwErkus]

Thank you for your replies. Turns out the problem was the ground
connection, and serial nowworks with pl2303. Unfortunately I mixed up
2 addresses when flashing the new firmware, and erased from 0x9f00
on instead of 0x9f02. As a result, my boot loader is corrupt. Now
I'm trying some last resort salvage over JTAG, using an rpi with
openocd as JTAG dongle. Assuming I manage to compile openocd with
ath79 support (which currently fails), can I use the u-boot from
pepe2k to restore my uboot ? I yes, how does it work: just copying the
bin to flash from 0x9f00 onwards ?

Many thanks for your help, qwerkus

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Tom Psyborg  wrote:
> you should've flashed https://github.com/pepe2k/u-boot_mod as soon as you
> switched from stock to openwrt. uart is not that reliable. i've made similar
> mistake while testing TL-MR22U and got brick because of too little RAM. i
> had to open device and mess with flash chip.
>
> On 1 June 2017 at 11:33, Russell Senior  wrote:
>>
>> > "QWeRKUS" == QWeRKUS qwErkus  writes:
>>
>> QWeRKUS> Hello, Something went wrong with my last flash of an archer c7
>> QWeRKUS> v2, and now the device refuses to boot. I'm trying to unbrick
>> QWeRKUS> it without success since.
>>
>> QWeRKUS> 2. I tried to get a serial access to the device, unfortunately
>> QWeRKUS> all I get is gibberish. Tried 115200 and 9600 baudrates, 8 bit,
>> QWeRKUS> no parity, 1 stop bit, no flow control with either CP2102 or
>> QWeRKUS> PL2303 usb uart dongles.  Also, I can't boot the device with
>> QWeRKUS> the ground wire from either uart plugged in. Lights turns on,
>> QWeRKUS> and just freeze.
>>
>> QWeRKUS> Wasted tons of hours on this, and would really be thankful for
>> QWeRKUS> any advice/pointers.
>>
>> Sounds like you are connecting your serial wrong.
>>
>>
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Re: [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Devel] Remerge logo ideas

[Julian Labus]

Hi Carlos,

the Wrt in OpenWrt comes from the Linksys WRT54G(L) which was the first
supported device. WRT devices from Linkys still exist however they aren't
that relevant anymore.

Maybe we can find a good backronym for Wrt/WRT which describes the current
state of the project better. My first thought was like yours W for Wireless
and R(T) for Router/Routing but I'm not satisfied with this.

Regards,
Julian

On 06/02/2017 12:35 PM, Carlos Ferreira wrote:
> @Mirko and  @Bill
> 
> I had the same thoughts in the past. OpenWRt has evolved into a much
> more diverse and generic embedded development environment.
> It no longer serves only the Wireless community interests or used just
> in Wireless Routers. It goes much beyond that.
> 
> Also, in my opinion, LEDE would be better and honestly, those who use
> OpenWRT already know what LEDE is. There's no branding issue here and
> LEDE, for me, is a much proper project name, which refers the current
> real use of OpenWRT.
> 
> Also, I always believed it should be OpenWRt with capital WR. Why?
> Isn't suposed to be Open Wireless Router? :)
> 
> Carlos.
> 
> On 30 May 2017 at 20:34, Bill Moffitt  wrote:
>> On 5/30/2017 12:15 PM, Mirko Vogt wrote:
>>>
>>> Huhu,
>>>
>>> looks great to me and it's definitely the right timing for a logo change
>>> :)
>>> Me who came to OpenWrt for porting it to a mobile phone and continued
>>> with pictures frames, mini-notebooks and landline phones, I never
>>> considered OpenWrt as a plain wifi router distribution/toolchain but one
>>> for every kind of embedded devices.
>>> Although I know it's coming from there and the name still reflects it,
>>> I'd appreciate more "embedded" than "wifi/antenna" in a logo, though
>>> having no idea how to do that :)
>>> Please don't consider that as complaint or even objection towards your
>>> drafts.
>>> It's just some input which might or might not be taken into account in
>>> the end.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your work!
>>>
>>>mirko
>>
>> Mirko-
>>
>> I just wanted to say that I had the same reaction (because I think LEDE is a
>> good idea), and then I thought about it a while.
>>
>> The truth is that just about all the embedded devices coming up are going to
>> have some sort of a wireless component, and in many cases the "wirelessness"
>> of the device or application is just as important as the "embeddedness." The
>> current popularity of the ESP8266 is proof of this (although it doesn't
>> currently run OpenWRT) - there are lots of educational devices out there to
>> connect sensors and measure things, but, when they have a wireless
>> connection on them, suddenly they are a LOT more interesting for practical
>> applications.
>>
>> I decided that I actually liked having the symbolic reference to
>> radio/wireless/etc/ in the logo. I choose to view it not as a WiFi router,
>> but just something that's wireless.
>>
>> Just my own 2 cents worth,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 05/29/2017 12:11 PM, Jamie Stuart wrote:

 Hi,
 First of all, I’m glad to hear the process of remerging LEDE with OpenWrt
 is moving forward.
 For what it’s worth, if prefer the LEDE name (it’s friendlier - ‘leddy’ -
 and not tied to the name of an old router!)

 However, it seems the consensus is that the OpenWrt name should remain. I
 thought that maybe we should take this opportunity to at least give the
 project an updated look?
 Maybe a new logo? I’m personally not one for mascots, so I had a quick go
 at a few simple text-based designs:

 http://i.imgur.com/9zyXSYR.png

 What are you thoughts?

 Jamie, onebillion

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt-Devel] Remerge logo ideas

[Carlos Ferreira]

@Mirko and  @Bill

I had the same thoughts in the past. OpenWRt has evolved into a much
more diverse and generic embedded development environment.
It no longer serves only the Wireless community interests or used just
in Wireless Routers. It goes much beyond that.

Also, in my opinion, LEDE would be better and honestly, those who use
OpenWRT already know what LEDE is. There's no branding issue here and
LEDE, for me, is a much proper project name, which refers the current
real use of OpenWRT.

Also, I always believed it should be OpenWRt with capital WR. Why?
Isn't suposed to be Open Wireless Router? :)

Carlos.

On 30 May 2017 at 20:34, Bill Moffitt  wrote:
> On 5/30/2017 12:15 PM, Mirko Vogt wrote:
>>
>> Huhu,
>>
>> looks great to me and it's definitely the right timing for a logo change
>> :)
>> Me who came to OpenWrt for porting it to a mobile phone and continued
>> with pictures frames, mini-notebooks and landline phones, I never
>> considered OpenWrt as a plain wifi router distribution/toolchain but one
>> for every kind of embedded devices.
>> Although I know it's coming from there and the name still reflects it,
>> I'd appreciate more "embedded" than "wifi/antenna" in a logo, though
>> having no idea how to do that :)
>> Please don't consider that as complaint or even objection towards your
>> drafts.
>> It's just some input which might or might not be taken into account in
>> the end.
>>
>> Thanks for your work!
>>
>>mirko
>
> Mirko-
>
> I just wanted to say that I had the same reaction (because I think LEDE is a
> good idea), and then I thought about it a while.
>
> The truth is that just about all the embedded devices coming up are going to
> have some sort of a wireless component, and in many cases the "wirelessness"
> of the device or application is just as important as the "embeddedness." The
> current popularity of the ESP8266 is proof of this (although it doesn't
> currently run OpenWRT) - there are lots of educational devices out there to
> connect sensors and measure things, but, when they have a wireless
> connection on them, suddenly they are a LOT more interesting for practical
> applications.
>
> I decided that I actually liked having the symbolic reference to
> radio/wireless/etc/ in the logo. I choose to view it not as a WiFi router,
> but just something that's wireless.
>
> Just my own 2 cents worth,
>
> Bill
>
>
>>
>> On 05/29/2017 12:11 PM, Jamie Stuart wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> First of all, I’m glad to hear the process of remerging LEDE with OpenWrt
>>> is moving forward.
>>> For what it’s worth, if prefer the LEDE name (it’s friendlier - ‘leddy’ -
>>> and not tied to the name of an old router!)
>>>
>>> However, it seems the consensus is that the OpenWrt name should remain. I
>>> thought that maybe we should take this opportunity to at least give the
>>> project an updated look?
>>> Maybe a new logo? I’m personally not one for mascots, so I had a quick go
>>> at a few simple text-based designs:
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/9zyXSYR.png
>>>
>>> What are you thoughts?
>>>
>>> Jamie, onebillion
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