Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-07-04 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 4 July 2016 at 09:51, First Last  wrote:
> Could you please add git commit information to openwrt_release file? and why
> not change the file name to lede_release?

How is this related to LuCI in snapshots?

Because some software looks for openwrt_release (e.g. procd).

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-07-03 Thread Daniel Curran-Dickinson
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 11:43 -0700, David Lang wrote:
> I agree. There may be some devices with extremely small flash that
> can't fit 
> luci, but otherwise I think it should be on the default images that
> people are 
> pointed at.
> 
> Having a second set of images without luci isn't a bad idea, but if
> forced to 
> choose, I would say they should have luci
> 

Agree.  As Jo observes those not needing LuCI are generally more
capable of building their own images without LuCi than people for
whom LuCI is essential to their being able to use LEDE, which makes
sense since without LuCI is all command line work, while LuCI is a
friendlier GUI.

Regards,

Daniel

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-30 Thread John Crispin


On 29/06/2016 16:54, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it
> would give more testing exposure to the ui...
> 
> My observation on the matter is this:
> People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building
> from source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend
> to be unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)
> 
> So personally I'd lean toward adding LuCI to the snapshots but would
> await further feedback on it.
> 
> ~ Jo
> 

Hi Jo,

if you add this then please make it depend on !SMALL_FLASH

John

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread Rafał Miłecki
On 29 June 2016 at 16:54, Jo-Philipp Wich  wrote:
> My observation on the matter is this:
> People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building
> from source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend
> to be unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)

A great summary. I agree and like John's idea.

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread Aaron Z
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:43 PM, David Lang  wrote:
> I agree. There may be some devices with extremely small flash that can't fit
> luci, but otherwise I think it should be on the default images that people
> are pointed at.
> Having a second set of images without luci isn't a bad idea, but if forced
> to choose, I would say they should have luci
+1, its confusing to your average person if you don't know how to SSH
in and install Luci via opkg.

Aaron Z

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread David Lang
I agree. There may be some devices with extremely small flash that can't fit 
luci, but otherwise I think it should be on the default images that people are 
pointed at.


Having a second set of images without luci isn't a bad idea, but if forced to 
choose, I would say they should have luci


David Lang

 On Wed, 29 Jun 2016, Adrian Panella 
wrote:



Totally agree with the observation.
+1 for including LuCI as default.

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Jo-Philipp Wich
Sent: miércoles, 29 de junio de 2016 09:54 a.m.
To: lede-dev@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

Hi,

it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it would
give more testing exposure to the ui...

My observation on the matter is this:
People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building from
source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend to be
unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)

So personally I'd lean toward adding LuCI to the snapshots but would await
further feedback on it.

~ Jo

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant



On 29/06/16 15:54, Jo-Philipp Wich wrote:

Hi,

it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it
would give more testing exposure to the ui...

My observation on the matter is this:
People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building
from source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend
to be unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)

+1

Personally I think the novice user has enough concern over the flashing 
process let alone then being introduced to the whole command line & opkg 
stuff before they can get to a friendlier GUI.


Kevin


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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread L. D. Pinney
While I think adding luci will be convenient for many users.

I feel that the initial release is the paramount issue and that builds
containing luci could be added later.

A nice solution would be to offer downloads built w/wo lucias well
as adding 'luci' to the filename if built with luci.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adrian Panella  wrote:
> Totally agree with the observation.
> +1 for including LuCI as default.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lede-dev [mailto:lede-dev-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of
> Jo-Philipp Wich
> Sent: miércoles, 29 de junio de 2016 09:54 a.m.
> To: lede-dev@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images
>
> Hi,
>
> it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it would
> give more testing exposure to the ui...
>
> My observation on the matter is this:
> People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building from
> source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend to be
> unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)
>
> So personally I'd lean toward adding LuCI to the snapshots but would await
> further feedback on it.
>
> ~ Jo
>
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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread Adrian Panella
Totally agree with the observation.
+1 for including LuCI as default.

-Original Message-
From: Lede-dev [mailto:lede-dev-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of
Jo-Philipp Wich
Sent: miércoles, 29 de junio de 2016 09:54 a.m.
To: lede-dev@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

Hi,

it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it would
give more testing exposure to the ui...

My observation on the matter is this:
People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building from
source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend to be
unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)

So personally I'd lean toward adding LuCI to the snapshots but would await
further feedback on it.

~ Jo

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Re: [LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread Jo-Philipp Wich
Hi,

it would certainly help to bridge the gap until the #1 release and it
would give more testing exposure to the ui...

My observation on the matter is this:
People who do *not* want to have the ui included are either building
from source or using the IB anyway and those users *requiring* a ui tend
to be unable to spin their own builds (no Linux os at hand, too hard, ...)

So personally I'd lean toward adding LuCI to the snapshots but would
await further feedback on it.

~ Jo

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[LEDE-DEV] adding luci to snapshot images

2016-06-29 Thread John Crispin
Hi Jo,

can we add luci to snapshot images until the first release is out ?
people are using the images and seem to be confused by there being no luci.

personally i would prefer to not include luci in snapshots to keep them
as minimal as possible but until we have a first release it would make
sense. we can revert that change post release.

John

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