Re: [LU] WTF!!!!

2013-11-30 Thread Nigel Goodman
Embarrassing! Warnock is responsible for 6 of the 19 points.
 MOT Nige
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> Embarrassing  Dirty Leeds !?
> 
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>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 21:01, "Richard Naef"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/eng.2/english-league-championship?
>> cc=5739
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Re: [LU] WTF!!!!

2013-11-30 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Worth anything -- the standing that is?

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> Embarrassing  Dirty Leeds !?
>
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> > On 29 Nov 2013, at 21:01, "Richard Naef" <
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> >
> >
> http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/eng.2/english-league-championship
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[LU] Beer

2013-11-30 Thread Andy Brown
Where's good for a pint of Roosters in Leeds nowadays. Must be:

1) City centre
2) decent or interesting pub (girl friend will be with me)
3) must have Roosters on

Thanks
Andy

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Re: [LU] WTF!!!!

2013-11-30 Thread Lee Jones
Doesn't it qualify for a Europa league place?
From: Dr Michael Benjamin
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Subject: Re: [LU] WTF
Worth anything -- the standing that is?

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> Embarrassing  Dirty Leeds !?
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > On 29 Nov 2013, at 21:01, "Richard Naef" <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> http://espnfc.com/stats/fairplay/_/league/eng.2/english-league-championship
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[LU] News from Elland Road

2013-11-30 Thread Errand Fivefold
http://tinyurl.com/orop9w7


Verner 


tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
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[LU] Link?

2013-11-30 Thread Nicholas Armit


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Re: [LU] Link?

2013-11-30 Thread Nigel Goodman
No TV link but audio here
 
http://leedsunitedshirt.com/leeds-united-news-website/leeds-united-live-radio-streaming/
MOT

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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
Positive thinking!

Why do we want to give longer contracts to 2nd Division players when we
expect to be in the 1st?

Damian


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:

>  Blackstock has a 3 and a half year contract at Forest, and therefore
> would be unlikely to settle for a 2 year one - almost implying that we only
> give 2 year contracts ?


> Dave
>
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard Walker
7,000 fans and a result like that. Very, very disappointing but definitely not 
unexpected.

Bag of shite. Where's the wine.

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 16:36, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Positive thinking!
> 
> Why do we want to give longer contracts to 2nd Division players when we
> expect to be in the 1st?
> 
> Damian
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>> 
>> Blackstock has a 3 and a half year contract at Forest, and therefore
>> would be unlikely to settle for a 2 year one - almost implying that we only
>> give 2 year contracts ?
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the fire
and I have hopes ;)

It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without ;)


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker wrote:

>  Where's the wine.
>
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
'From the cellar ' ???

It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.



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> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the fire
> and I have hopes ;)
> 
> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without ;)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker 
> wrote:
> 
>> Where's the wine.
>> 
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the fire
> and I have hopes ;)
> 
> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without ;)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker 
> wrote:
> 
>> Where's the wine.
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[LU] Non-LU - Leeds City, maybe

2013-11-30 Thread Chris Nickson
While we ponder a loss to Blackburn, some fictional thoughts about what
might have happened when Leeds City sold off its players in 1919...

In 1919, Leeds City FC was wound up. This might have happened:
http://chrisnickson.co.uk/2013/11/30/a-sale-of-effects-1919/
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).

I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.

I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.

All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(

Damian

PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker wrote:

> 'From the cellar ' ???
>
> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> > from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> fire
> > and I have hopes ;)
> >
> > It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> > couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
> ;)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker  >wrote:
> >
> >> Where's the wine.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
Yep, Pinot Noir

The maison C-G is in Ladoix Serrigny which is the first village of the
Cotes de Beaune as you leave the Cotes de Nuits. You're on the lower slopes
leading up to Corton.

I can't claim to know the people but I'm friends with a cousin (who is a
Michelin starred chef BTW - funnily (sp?) enough he gor his star a few
moths after he ate at mine - the bastid stole all my ideas ;)). He buys for
me so I get quite a substantial discount.

Damian



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Richard walker wrote:

> What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> > from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> fire
> > and I have hopes ;)
> >
> > It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> > couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
> ;)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker  >wrote:
> >
> >> Where's the wine.
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[LU] Blackburn

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
Didn't go to the match, probably would have done if it wasn't my daughters 
birthday today. Glad I didn't , lots of mates did and I've spoken to a couple 
who said we were poor and really can't understand how Pugh is being picked 
(surely we know all about this bloke by now) and also how can Byram be on the 
bench?
They also said that Austin was back to his awful worse and Luke Murphy just 
continued with his usual form I.e. Someone who has shown nothing since his big 
money move. He's surely got to be dropped.

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 18:43, Richard walker  wrote:
> 
> What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>> 
>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the fire
>> and I have hopes ;)
>> 
>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without ;)
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed. 

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).
> 
> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
> 
> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
> 
> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
> 
> Damian
> 
> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker 
> wrote:
> 
>> 'From the cellar ' ???
>> 
>> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
>>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
>> fire
>>> and I have hopes ;)
>>> 
>>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
>>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
>> ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker >> wrote:
>>> 
 Where's the wine.
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[LU] Thoughts turn to Lardy things....

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
I've played for a "new" veterans team for a year now. When not drunk or
hung-over the team is seriously good - certainly the best team I've ever
played more than one match for ;) The best thing about them is the spirit
on and off the pitch. You don't often need a referee in their matches but
you always need an extra day in the weekend.

Anyway. They (I can switch to "we" now) are coming to London at the end of
May and are trying to set up a match or two. I've got a contact who can
provide a team and a pitch. The thought is there... Would the Lards like to
come and make up a threesome? (or nominate a young, well proportioned
blonde for similar ;)

Damian

PS an of course the invitation is always open for the Lards to come out
here whenever they want..
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
Am I hell - I cooked him and his family a disastrous paella with bloody
chicken and raw fish - I can only hope that he thought it was on purpose ;)

Damian


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Richard walker wrote:

> Are you a chef ?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:24, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > Yep, Pinot Noir
> >
> > The maison C-G is in Ladoix Serrigny which is the first village of the
> > Cotes de Beaune as you leave the Cotes de Nuits. You're on the lower
> slopes
> > leading up to Corton.
> >
> > I can't claim to know the people but I'm friends with a cousin (who is a
> > Michelin starred chef BTW - funnily (sp?) enough he gor his star a few
> > moths after he ate at mine - the bastid stole all my ideas ;)). He buys
> for
> > me so I get quite a substantial discount.
> >
> > Damian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Richard walker  >wrote:
> >
> >> What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight
> up
> >>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> >> fire
> >>> and I have hopes ;)
> >>>
> >>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> >>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening
> without
> >> ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread seanscribe
This must be some sort of sign that I'm getting old. I tune in to my "football" 
email list to see what folks have to say about today's game, only to somehow 
blunder into a conversation about my fellow listers' wine cellars?!? 

I hadn't realized it before, but my preference for scotch is apparently a 
money-saving decision: no need to build one of these pesky cellars.

Sean

 

 

 

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From: Damian Walsh 
To: leedslist 
Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi


Yep, Pinot Noir

The maison C-G is in Ladoix Serrigny which is the first village of the
Cotes de Beaune as you leave the Cotes de Nuits. You're on the lower slopes
leading up to Corton.

I can't claim to know the people but I'm friends with a cousin (who is a
Michelin starred chef BTW - funnily (sp?) enough he gor his star a few
moths after he ate at mine - the bastid stole all my ideas ;)). He buys for
me so I get quite a substantial discount.

Damian



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Richard walker wrote:

> What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> > from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> fire
> > and I have hopes ;)
> >
> > It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> > couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
> ;)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker  >wrote:
> >
> >> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
Anyone for a prawn sarnie?

 I've got a cheeky young Meusault Vielles Vignes which can see off the
salad cream ;)


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM,  wrote:

> This must be some sort of sign that I'm getting old. I tune in to my
> "football" email list to see what folks have to say about today's game,
> only to somehow blunder into a conversation about my fellow listers' *wine
> cellars*?!?
>
> I hadn't realized it before, but my preference for scotch is apparently a
> money-saving decision: no need to build one of these pesky cellars.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Damian Walsh 
> To: leedslist 
> Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 2:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>
>  Yep, Pinot Noir
>
> The maison C-G is in Ladoix Serrigny which is the first village of the
> Cotes de Beaune as you leave the Cotes de Nuits. You're on the lower slopes
> leading up to Corton.
>
> I can't claim to know the people but I'm friends with a cousin (who is a
> Michelin starred chef BTW - funnily (sp?) enough he gor his star a few
> moths after he ate at mine - the bastid stole all my ideas ;)). He buys for
> me so I get quite a substantial discount.
>
> Damian
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Richard walker 
> wrote:
>
> > What Grape is that Damian ? Pinot Noir ?
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> > >
> > > Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> > > from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> > fire
> > > and I have hopes ;)
> > >
> > > It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> > > couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
> > ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
BTW, there is an element of social engineering from Google here.

With the new Gmail set up, any mail that Rich sends about Becchio goes
somehow magically into "Forums" - we can happily talk about football there.
However when Rich mentions wine, the mail goes into "Primary" so we can
talk freely about the finer things in life that for a brief period around
the turn of the century, the working classes could afford.

This is probably a dastardly plot by Google to identify all those who are
worth spamming with Sunday Times Wine Club offers..

Damian


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM,  wrote:

> This must be some sort of sign that I'm getting old. I tune in to my
> "football" email list to
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
Actually, I'd rather talk about fine wine than Danny fucking Pugh. Gives us 
stability apparently. Do we never learn !? 

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:23, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> BTW, there is an element of social engineering from Google here.
> 
> With the new Gmail set up, any mail that Rich sends about Becchio goes
> somehow magically into "Forums" - we can happily talk about football there.
> However when Rich mentions wine, the mail goes into "Primary" so we can
> talk freely about the finer things in life that for a brief period around
> the turn of the century, the working classes could afford.
> 
> This is probably a dastardly plot by Google to identify all those who are
> worth spamming with Sunday Times Wine Club offers..
> 
> Damian
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 9:01 PM,  wrote:
>> 
>> This must be some sort of sign that I'm getting old. I tune in to my
>> "football" email list to
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Brendan
Hi Damian,

What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and 
dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...

Very jealous of the wine cellar...

BMW

PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?

--- Original Message ---

From: "Richard walker" 
Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
To: "Damian Walsh" 
Cc: "leedslist" 
Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi

Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>
> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).
>
> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
>
> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
>
> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
>
> Damian
>
> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker 
> wrote:
>
>> 'From the cellar ' ???
>>
>> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
>>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
>> fire
>>> and I have hopes ;)
>>>
>>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
>>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
>> ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker >> wrote:
>>>
 Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is such a 
strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who loves Spain who 
reckons that when you get above £20 for a bottle of Rioja the tastes start to 
get complex and subtle. Never spent that much mysen so can't comment but you're 
Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops are just too samey for me.

As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a bottle of 
Rioja from Aldi.

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan  wrote:
> 
> Hi Damian,
> 
> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and 
> dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
> 
> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
> 
> BMW
> 
> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: "Richard walker" 
> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
> To: "Damian Walsh" 
> Cc: "leedslist" 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
> 
> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>> 
>> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
>> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
>> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
>> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
>> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).
>> 
>> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
>> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
>> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
>> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
>> 
>> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
>> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
>> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
>> 
>> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
>> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
>> 
>> Damian
>> 
>> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
>> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 'From the cellar ' ???
>>> 
>>> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
 
 Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
 from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
>>> fire
 and I have hopes ;)
 
 It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
 couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
>>> ;)
 
 
 On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker >>> wrote:
 
> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Eric B
Spanish wines are ace. AU wines are ace too. had a fantastic "champagne"
made in the US once.

I suggest borders/passports dont mean much when it comes to wine and food.


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Brendan wrote:

> Hi Damian,
>
> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and
> dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
>
> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
>
> BMW
>
> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Richard walker" 
> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
> To: "Damian Walsh" 
> Cc: "leedslist" 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>
> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >
> > I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
> > because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
> > vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no
> "by
> > gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first
> "cellar"
> > in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky
> friend).
> >
> > I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles
> (all
> > good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
> > cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
> > taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
> >
> > I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
> > got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
> > auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
> >
> > All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but
> don't
> > buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
> >
> > Damian
> >
> > PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
> > Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another
> mail
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker  >wrote:
> >
> >> 'From the cellar ' ???
> >>
> >> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight
> up
> >>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
> >> fire
> >>> and I have hopes ;)
> >>>
> >>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> >>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening
> without
> >> ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Damian Walsh
I'm not surprised about the French being scared of Spanish wine. A Castillo
d'Ygay gran reserva is the equal of any Bordeaux 1r cru (Lafite, Latour,
Mouton, Margaux, Cheval Blanc, Ausone Haut Brion & La Mission de Haut
Brion), it's enjoyable years before the Bordeaux and will out last any
modern French wine by a good 20 years. In 2005 the Ygay cost approximately
a 15th of the price  of its French counterparts. Unfortunately its now
almost impossible to get hold off and I all with many others have burnt my
fingers mistakenly buying Finca d'Ygay.

Going down the scale, 5/6€ on a Vina Mayor Ribero del Douro is unmatchable
anywhere...

.. but then again there are those awful memories of 70s & 80s
Valdepenas ;)

Damian

I was in a fairly typical greasy spoon style restaurant near to Pamplona
(or was it Vitoria?...) Just gone over to the Euro, and it was 8€ the menu.
However they had a wine list that had every Ygay from 1927 (and a few such
as the 1918 from before), and every Vega Sicilia from the early 30s. I
drank a late 60s (67, 68?) Ygay at a very reasonable 40odd quid. Only in
Spain



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> Hi Damian,
>
> What's your view on Spanish wine?
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Brendan
Hi,

The mother in law comes from a village 15km from Haro (the La Rioja wine 
capital) so whilst I know fek all about wine I've been to a lot of bodegas.

Anyhow, from the little I do know I'd say EVERYTHING you see in a supermarket 
be it in Spain or abroad from La Rioja is largely pish. The big bodegas sell 
the average stuff only to the chains and the medium to small ones simply don't 
sell to them at all as the margins are tiny.

My french colleague (who is a top lad btw) always says the Riojas are just pure 
vanilla (ie additives/preservatives) and he does have a point but if you like 
that ...

The threshold here from the bodega itself is €8-10 upwards (ie really 
drinkable) and €20+ from a bodega that won't sell to a supermarket will be 
cracking.

Also, Ribeiro del Duero are also great for reds and white Albariño from Galicia 
is unbeatable.

My sincerest apologies to those uninterested in wines... But when they lose in 
front of 6800 away fans, ye might as well digress. ;-)

BMW




--- Original Message ---

From: "Richard walker" 
Sent: 30 November 2013 21:51
To: "Brendan" 
Cc: "Damian Walsh" , "leedslist" 
Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi

Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is such a 
strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who loves Spain who 
reckons that when you get above £20 for a bottle of Rioja the tastes start to 
get complex and subtle. Never spent that much mysen so can't comment but you're 
Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops are just too samey for me.

As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a bottle of 
Rioja from Aldi.

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan  wrote:
>
> Hi Damian,
>
> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and 
> dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
>
> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
>
> BMW
>
> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Richard walker" 
> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
> To: "Damian Walsh" 
> Cc: "leedslist" 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>
> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>>
>> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
>> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
>> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
>> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
>> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).
>>
>> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
>> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
>> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
>> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
>>
>> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
>> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
>> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
>>
>> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
>> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
>>
>> Damian
>>
>> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
>> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 'From the cellar ' ???
>>>
>>> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
 On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:

 Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
 from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
>>> fire
 and I have hopes ;)

 It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
 couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
>>> ;)


 On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker >>> wrote:

> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Richard walker
That's interesting, sort of backs up why I think most of the Rioja I have 
tasted to date is at best average. 

As for Lee Peltier, an average bottle of Rioja with a dose of piss in it.

Sent from my iPad

> On 30 Nov 2013, at 21:29, Brendan  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The mother in law comes from a village 15km from Haro (the La Rioja wine 
> capital) so whilst I know fek all about wine I've been to a lot of bodegas.
> 
> Anyhow, from the little I do know I'd say EVERYTHING you see in a supermarket 
> be it in Spain or abroad from La Rioja is largely pish. The big bodegas sell 
> the average stuff only to the chains and the medium to small ones simply 
> don't sell to them at all as the margins are tiny.
> 
> My french colleague (who is a top lad btw) always says the Riojas are just 
> pure vanilla (ie additives/preservatives) and he does have a point but if you 
> like that ...
> 
> The threshold here from the bodega itself is €8-10 upwards (ie really 
> drinkable) and €20+ from a bodega that won't sell to a supermarket will be 
> cracking.
> 
> Also, Ribeiro del Duero are also great for reds and white Albariño from 
> Galicia is unbeatable.
> 
> My sincerest apologies to those uninterested in wines... But when they lose 
> in front of 6800 away fans, ye might as well digress. ;-)
> 
> BMW
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: "Richard walker" 
> Sent: 30 November 2013 21:51
> To: "Brendan" 
> Cc: "Damian Walsh" , "leedslist" 
> 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
> 
> Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is such a 
> strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who loves Spain 
> who reckons that when you get above £20 for a bottle of Rioja the tastes 
> start to get complex and subtle. Never spent that much mysen so can't comment 
> but you're Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops are just too samey for me.
> 
> As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a bottle of 
> Rioja from Aldi.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Damian,
>> 
>> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and 
>> dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
>> 
>> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
>> 
>> BMW
>> 
>> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
>> 
>> --- Original Message ---
>> 
>> From: "Richard walker" 
>> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
>> To: "Damian Walsh" 
>> Cc: "leedslist" 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>> 
>> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago
>>> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone
>>> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by
>>> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar"
>>> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend).
>>> 
>>> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all
>>> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern
>>> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and
>>> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
>>> 
>>> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I
>>> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the
>>> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€... I got 1980€ back.
>>> 
>>> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't
>>> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :(
>>> 
>>> Damian
>>> 
>>> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my
>>> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 'From the cellar ' ???
 
 It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up
> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the
 fire
> and I have hopes ;)
> 
> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a
> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without
 ;)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Where's the wine.
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Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Wayne
   I've found as I've got older my tastes Have become slightly more
   sophisticated.
   For a evening in, in front of a roaring radiator, I like a good peaty
   scotch.
   For a day time piss up I find you can't beat a vanilla spiced rum as a
   chaser with a pint, whilst on an evening lash I stick to jack Daniels
   and coke, as it's easy to order when rat arsed JD Coke mate...
   My partner (I hesitate to use the term girlfriend as she's 37 and I'm
   48, so she's neither a girl and she's not thar friendly) is going to be
   giving birth to our first son (we already have a daughter) , in the
   next 4 weeks, so she's been off the alcohol for about 9 months, however
   she did like a drop of the old vino, so I'd like to get her a nice
   bottle to go with her stitches and stretch marks...
   All advice greatly received as my knowledge of wine is limited to,
   well, it's made from grapes..
   Thanks
   Wayne
   Wayne
 __

   From: Richard walker
   Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 9:53 pm
   To: Brendan 
   CC:leedslist 
   Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
   That's interesting, sort of backs up why I think most of the Rioja I
   have tasted to date is at best average.
   As for Lee Peltier, an average bottle of Rioja with a dose of piss in
   it.
   Sent from my iPad
   > On 30 Nov 2013, at 21:29, Brendan wrote:
   >
   > Hi,
   >
   > The mother in law comes from a village 15km from Haro (the La Rioja
   wine capital) so whilst I know fek all about wine I've been to a lot of
   bodegas.
   >
   > Anyhow, from the little I do know I'd say EVERYTHING you see in a
   supermarket be it in Spain or abroad from La Rioja is largely pish. The
   big bodegas sell the average stuff only to the chains and the medium to
   small ones simply don't sell to them at all as the margins are tiny.
   >
   > My french colleague (who is a top lad btw) always says the Riojas are
   just pure vanilla (ie additives/preservatives) and he does have a point
   but if you like that ...
   >
   > The threshold here from the bodega itself is a'NOT8-10 upwards (ie
   really drinkable) and a'NOT20+ from a bodega that won't sell to a
   supermarket will be cracking.
   >
   > Also, Ribeiro del Duero are also great for reds and white AlbariA+-o
   from Galicia is unbeatable.
   >
   > My sincerest apologies to those uninterested in wines... But when
   they lose in front of 6800 away fans, ye might as well digress. ;-)
   >
   > BMW
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > --- Original Message ---
   >
   > From: "Richard walker"
   > Sent: 30 November 2013 21:51
   > To: "Brendan"
   > Cc: "Damian Walsh" , "leedslist"
   > Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
   >
   > Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is
   such a strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who
   loves Spain who reckons that when you get above A-L-20 for a bottle of
   Rioja the tastes start to get complex and subtle. Never spent that much
   mysen so can't comment but you're Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops
   are just too samey for me.
   >
   > As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a
   bottle of Rioja from Aldi.
   >
   > Sent from my iPad
   >
   >> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan wrote:
   >>
   >> Hi Damian,
   >>
   >> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always
   sniffy and dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
   >>
   >> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
   >>
   >> BMW
   >>
   >> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
   >>
   >> --- Original Message ---
   >>
   >> From: "Richard walker"
   >> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
   >> To: "Damian Walsh"
   >> Cc: "leedslist"
   >> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
   >>
   >> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
   >>
   >> Sent from my iPad
   >>
   >>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh wrote:
   >>>
   >>> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years
   ago
   >>> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge
   dry-stone
   >>> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there
   was no "by
   >>> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first
   "cellar"
   >>> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky
   friend).
   >>>
   >>> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900
   bottles (all
   >>> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a
   modern
   >>> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the
   drain and
   >>> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300.
   >>>
   >>> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I
   lost, I
   >>> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that
   the
   >>> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000a'NOT... I got
   1980a'NOT back.
   >>>
   >>> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar,
   b

Re: [LU] Satdi

2013-11-30 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
My advice Wayne
Buy a bottle of Champaigne and marry the woman!!!
Old fashioned me :(
Good luck with the upcoming birth.
Michael

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On 1 December 2013 00:57, Wayne  wrote:

>I've found as I've got older my tastes Have become slightly more
>sophisticated.
>For a evening in, in front of a roaring radiator, I like a good peaty
>scotch.
>For a day time piss up I find you can't beat a vanilla spiced rum as a
>chaser with a pint, whilst on an evening lash I stick to jack Daniels
>and coke, as it's easy to order when rat arsed JD Coke mate...
>My partner (I hesitate to use the term girlfriend as she's 37 and I'm
>48, so she's neither a girl and she's not thar friendly) is going to be
>giving birth to our first son (we already have a daughter) , in the
>next 4 weeks, so she's been off the alcohol for about 9 months, however
>she did like a drop of the old vino, so I'd like to get her a nice
>bottle to go with her stitches and stretch marks...
>All advice greatly received as my knowledge of wine is limited to,
>well, it's made from grapes..
>Thanks
>Wayne
>Wayne
>  __
>
>From: Richard walker
>Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2013 9:53 pm
>To: Brendan 
>CC:leedslist 
>Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>That's interesting, sort of backs up why I think most of the Rioja I
>have tasted to date is at best average.
>As for Lee Peltier, an average bottle of Rioja with a dose of piss in
>it.
>Sent from my iPad
>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 21:29, Brendan wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The mother in law comes from a village 15km from Haro (the La Rioja
>wine capital) so whilst I know fek all about wine I've been to a lot of
>bodegas.
>>
>> Anyhow, from the little I do know I'd say EVERYTHING you see in a
>supermarket be it in Spain or abroad from La Rioja is largely pish. The
>big bodegas sell the average stuff only to the chains and the medium to
>small ones simply don't sell to them at all as the margins are tiny.
>>
>> My french colleague (who is a top lad btw) always says the Riojas are
>just pure vanilla (ie additives/preservatives) and he does have a point
>but if you like that ...
>>
>> The threshold here from the bodega itself is a'NOT8-10 upwards (ie
>really drinkable) and a'NOT20+ from a bodega that won't sell to a
>supermarket will be cracking.
>>
>> Also, Ribeiro del Duero are also great for reds and white AlbariA+-o
>from Galicia is unbeatable.
>>
>> My sincerest apologies to those uninterested in wines... But when
>they lose in front of 6800 away fans, ye might as well digress. ;-)
>>
>> BMW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Original Message ---
>>
>> From: "Richard walker"
>> Sent: 30 November 2013 21:51
>> To: "Brendan"
>> Cc: "Damian Walsh" , "leedslist"
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>>
>> Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is
>such a strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who
>loves Spain who reckons that when you get above A-L-20 for a bottle of
>Rioja the tastes start to get complex and subtle. Never spent that much
>mysen so can't comment but you're Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops
>are just too samey for me.
>>
>> As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a
>bottle of Rioja from Aldi.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Damian,
>>>
>>> What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always
>sniffy and dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer...
>>>
>>> Very jealous of the wine cellar...
>>>
>>> BMW
>>>
>>> PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment?
>>>
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>> From: "Richard walker"
>>> Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28
>>> To: "Damian Walsh"
>>> Cc: "leedslist"
>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi
>>>
>>> Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years
>ago
>>>> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge
>dry-stone
>>>> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there
>was no "by
>>>> gum that wer a grand