Re: [LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield
If you're good enough, you're old enough Dave. On holiday at the mo, so missing all. The pre season action. How's the Hock coming across in his post match interviews? > On 22 Jul 2014, at 23:38, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: > > 72 mins Terrible back pass by Morison , striker nipped in and Silvestri > brought him down - a red in real life but ref let him off. They scored pen 0 > 1 > > Does not sound very good, trying to keep the ball but no penetration - > Bianchi sounds decent. > > 923 away fans in crowd of 3493 - amazing turn out, > > 83 mins Thompson falls over and they get their 2nd - 2 0 to them - poor > defending > > Cannot read anything into it but would be better if we sounded good , result > unimportant but the way we play etc does count for something and 2 bits of > very slack defending cost us 2 goals. > > Cook also sounds a real prospect (but is only 17 so cannot build this season > on his shoulders) > > Dave > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield
I don't agree that you 'can't read anything into it'. We lost 2-0 to Mansfield. Hockaday out. Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Jul 2014, at 4:39, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: > > 72 mins Terrible back pass by Morison , striker nipped in and Silvestri > brought him down - a red in real life but ref let him off. They scored pen 0 > 1 > > Does not sound very good, trying to keep the ball but no penetration - > Bianchi sounds decent. > > 923 away fans in crowd of 3493 - amazing turn out, > > 83 mins Thompson falls over and they get their 2nd - 2 0 to them - poor > defending > > Cannot read anything into it but would be better if we sounded good , result > unimportant but the way we play etc does count for something and 2 bits of > very slack defending cost us 2 goals. > > Cook also sounds a real prospect (but is only 17 so cannot build this season > on his shoulders) > > Dave > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] lost 2 - 0 at Mansfield
72 mins Terrible back pass by Morison , striker nipped in and Silvestri brought him down - a red in real life but ref let him off. They scored pen 0 1 Does not sound very good, trying to keep the ball but no penetration - Bianchi sounds decent. 923 away fans in crowd of 3493 - amazing turn out, 83 mins Thompson falls over and they get their 2nd - 2 0 to them - poor defending Cannot read anything into it but would be better if we sounded good , result unimportant but the way we play etc does count for something and 2 bits of very slack defending cost us 2 goals. Cook also sounds a real prospect (but is only 17 so cannot build this season on his shoulders) Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
We are probably the only country with 4.5 professional leagues. Most turn nations stop being fully pro below the 2nd tier Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Neil wrote: > > How much do players earn in lower leagues around Europe? > Probably not much. Less than in England. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 12:05 PM, "Jim Moran" wrote: >> >> Not that I really care that much, but it's no wonder that England struggle. >> >> Can you imagine a struggling Serie B side full of journeymen English >> players, and a handful of Italians? Or any respectable 2nd tier in any >> country for that matter? How many English players now play overseas? ONE. >> Fraser Forster in the highly competitive Scottish Premier. Ashley Cole at >> Roma doesn't even count anymore. >> >> >> On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: >> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports especially from the same foreign country (Italy) >>> >>> I think it's a tricky one, if they are the best in the position/for the >>> team >>> then doesn't matter where they come from (other than Manchester obviously) >>> . >>> I suspect a few of the players won't make the grade and we'll be left with >>> a >>> 3 or 4 by January. It's likely that the better ones (Silvestre & Viviani) >>> will see Leeds as a stepping stone to the premiership (assuming we don't >>> get >>> promoted) and that Cellino will expect to make money on them. The fact >>> their English will be poor shouldn't be a problem our best ever team was >>> full of sweaties and spudlovers who could hardly string 2 words of English >>> together ;0 >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] 0 0 at half time
Just got in so missed all first half - sounds like been poor fare Hunt and then Walters both gone off injured - Bianchi and Poleon come on instead 900 LU fans there plus some in their ends according to Phil Hay (we got a bit better towards the end of the half) Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] Mansfield team
Same as Guiseley but in reverse first 60 mins S Taylor, Byram, Pearce, Wootton, Warnock, White, Austin, Murphy, Hunt, Walters, Smith. last 30mins Silvestri, Thompson, Lees, Killock, C Taylor, Bianchi, Tonge, Cook, Norris, Morison, Doukara. Viviani is in the crowd so looks like that is on - not sure re ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
Nick you forgot Paul Beesley. .. MOT Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Nick Date:22/07/2014 20:13 (GMT+00:00) To: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ? I’ll take a young Cantona, Yeboah, Radebe and even Ribeiro any day…especially if the English alternatives are Paul Butler, Sean Gregan and Carlton Palmer >> >> >> On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: >> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports especially from the same foreign country (Italy) >>> >>> >>> ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
I’ll take a young Cantona, Yeboah, Radebe and even Ribeiro any day…especially if the English alternatives are Paul Butler, Sean Gregan and Carlton Palmer >> >> >> On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: >> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports especially from the same foreign country (Italy) >>> >>> >>> ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
How much do players earn in lower leagues around Europe? Probably not much. Less than in England. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2014, at 12:05 PM, "Jim Moran" wrote: > > Not that I really care that much, but it's no wonder that England struggle. > > Can you imagine a struggling Serie B side full of journeymen English > players, and a handful of Italians? Or any respectable 2nd tier in any > country for that matter? How many English players now play overseas? ONE. > Fraser Forster in the highly competitive Scottish Premier. Ashley Cole at > Roma doesn't even count anymore. > > > On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: > >>> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports >>> especially from the same foreign country (Italy) >> >> I think it's a tricky one, if they are the best in the position/for the >> team >> then doesn't matter where they come from (other than Manchester obviously) >> . >> I suspect a few of the players won't make the grade and we'll be left with >> a >> 3 or 4 by January. It's likely that the better ones (Silvestre & Viviani) >> will see Leeds as a stepping stone to the premiership (assuming we don't >> get >> promoted) and that Cellino will expect to make money on them. The fact >> their English will be poor shouldn't be a problem our best ever team was >> full of sweaties and spudlovers who could hardly string 2 words of English >> together ;0 >> >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
What I fail to understand is why English players go for 5-10 times more. If lalana and shaw were Croatian or something they would be a few million. Can't be the language as foreigners speak good English and there is no guarantee they will settle in merseyside and Manchester after living on the south coast Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jul 2014, at 17:04, Jim Moran wrote: > > Not that I really care that much, but it's no wonder that England struggle. > > Can you imagine a struggling Serie B side full of journeymen English > players, and a handful of Italians? Or any respectable 2nd tier in any > country for that matter? How many English players now play overseas? ONE. > Fraser Forster in the highly competitive Scottish Premier. Ashley Cole at > Roma doesn't even count anymore. > > > On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: > >>> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports >>> especially from the same foreign country (Italy) >> >> I think it's a tricky one, if they are the best in the position/for the >> team >> then doesn't matter where they come from (other than Manchester obviously) >> . >> I suspect a few of the players won't make the grade and we'll be left with >> a >> 3 or 4 by January. It's likely that the better ones (Silvestre & Viviani) >> will see Leeds as a stepping stone to the premiership (assuming we don't >> get >> promoted) and that Cellino will expect to make money on them. The fact >> their English will be poor shouldn't be a problem our best ever team was >> full of sweaties and spudlovers who could hardly string 2 words of English >> together ;0 >> >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
Not that I really care that much, but it's no wonder that England struggle. Can you imagine a struggling Serie B side full of journeymen English players, and a handful of Italians? Or any respectable 2nd tier in any country for that matter? How many English players now play overseas? ONE. Fraser Forster in the highly competitive Scottish Premier. Ashley Cole at Roma doesn't even count anymore. On 22 July 2014 16:57, Richard Naef wrote: > > At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports > > especially from the same foreign country (Italy) > > > > I think it's a tricky one, if they are the best in the position/for the > team > then doesn't matter where they come from (other than Manchester obviously) > . > I suspect a few of the players won't make the grade and we'll be left with > a > 3 or 4 by January. It's likely that the better ones (Silvestre & Viviani) > will see Leeds as a stepping stone to the premiership (assuming we don't > get > promoted) and that Cellino will expect to make money on them. The fact > their English will be poor shouldn't be a problem our best ever team was > full of sweaties and spudlovers who could hardly string 2 words of English > together ;0 > > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
> At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports > especially from the same foreign country (Italy) > I think it's a tricky one, if they are the best in the position/for the team then doesn't matter where they come from (other than Manchester obviously) . I suspect a few of the players won't make the grade and we'll be left with a 3 or 4 by January. It's likely that the better ones (Silvestre & Viviani) will see Leeds as a stepping stone to the premiership (assuming we don't get promoted) and that Cellino will expect to make money on them. The fact their English will be poor shouldn't be a problem our best ever team was full of sweaties and spudlovers who could hardly string 2 words of English together ;0 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
Cellino did say he doesn't know English football yet so needs to get what he knows quickly. He did of course mention the price of foreigners vs cost of English players too. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: nat...@sky.com Date:22/07/2014 14:39 (GMT+00:00) To: leeds list Subject: [LU] How many foreigners is too many ? At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports especially from the same foreign country (Italy) If the runours about Viviani are true (12mth loan with view to permanent seems to be the agreed 'wisdom' that means we could have a starting XI with almost half coming from Italy (albeit that Doukara is Senagalese / French he speaks Italian and has been playing over there + Berardi is Swiss but again from Italy football wise) Silvestri Berardi Lees Pearce Taylor Bianchi Viviandi Murphy Byram Doukara Smith (total guess at the English players who will be picked) We are still likely to sign another centre back and (hopefully) a top stiker and apart from Hudson (?) all the names we are linked with play in Italy I know that 3 are now Leeds players and the other 2 long term loans, rather than the Watford 'experiment' but surely there comes a time when we need to get home based players too ? On another note the club seem to have upset fans with the ticket prices, albeit many are appeased when they realise that this is the pay at the gate price and the 'real' price is £5 less, bad PR in the way they have advertised it. For me it should have given the lower price and then in the small print put it is an extra £5 to buy on the day and perhaps explain why. We are certainly moving things along let's hope in the right direction - fans do seem impressed with Viviandi (and to a lesser extent Silvestri) but not sure what this is based on Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
[LU] How many foreigners is too many ?
At what stage is Cellino going to say that we have enough foreign imports especially from the same foreign country (Italy) If the runours about Viviani are true (12mth loan with view to permanent seems to be the agreed 'wisdom' that means we could have a starting XI with almost half coming from Italy (albeit that Doukara is Senagalese / French he speaks Italian and has been playing over there + Berardi is Swiss but again from Italy football wise) Silvestri Berardi Lees Pearce Taylor Bianchi Viviandi Murphy Byram Doukara Smith (total guess at the English players who will be picked) We are still likely to sign another centre back and (hopefully) a top stiker and apart from Hudson (?) all the names we are linked with play in Italy I know that 3 are now Leeds players and the other 2 long term loans, rather than the Watford 'experiment' but surely there comes a time when we need to get home based players too ? On another note the club seem to have upset fans with the ticket prices, albeit many are appeased when they realise that this is the pay at the gate price and the 'real' price is £5 less, bad PR in the way they have advertised it. For me it should have given the lower price and then in the small print put it is an extra £5 to buy on the day and perhaps explain why. We are certainly moving things along let's hope in the right direction - fans do seem impressed with Viviandi (and to a lesser extent Silvestri) but not sure what this is based on Dave ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
