Re: [LU] Reading

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Quick thoughts:

Disagree a bit with Rich. I thought O’Kane was the only one who tried the whole 
game and who tried to string defense to attack. I like him. Just needs a strong 
partner so he can push forward a bit. That would be Viera.

Phillips: slow, thick and uninspiring. Third or fourth division player.

Hernandez: stuck out on the wing all the time. He is not a winger. No pace but 
bright and skillful. But we have one of those on Saiz so a conundrum. What to 
do?

Roofe; scored a bunch as a forward do why do we play him as a winger/ outside 
mid? 

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 2:37 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> This was a horror show especially the first 45 minutes where we just didn't 
> look like a team. TC dropped his keeper which was a good decision but he now 
> has to seriously have a look at his style of play and look to whether he 
> should develop a Plan B.
> It is painful to see us pass square balls across the back until we were put 
> under pressure and had to go back to Lonerghan. You could see the players 
> thinking we've been told to do this but it isn't working. We continually put 
> herself under pressure because to play this system you need at least one 
> midfielder who can sit deep, offer himself and make things happen. Both 
> O'Kane and Philips didn't seem to want to do this. It took TC 45 minutes to 
> see that this wasn't working and he changed it second half by moving O'Kane 
> deep to sit between them and start the moves. It was better but I still don't 
> think we're a team that is capable of playing this type of football in the 
> championship. And whilst we've been praising TC and slagging Garry Monk (me 
> included) maybe we should now begin to question whether Monk's limited 
> tactics and straight forward approach with a hungry team might be a better 
> way forward to this continental game that TC is trying to adopt with players 
> who find it hard to pass a ball at times. 
> The reason TC doesn't want to see us punt it long is that we don't have 
> anyone capable of winning the ball. Lasogga is a big unit but he is shite at 
> 50:50 balls in the air, in fact today he rarely got off the ground and when 
> Grot came on he us a masterclass of how a 7ft bloke can look ineffective in 
> the air. 
> I think the main weaknesses today other than the system was our two central 
> midfielders - O'Kane and Philips. It seemed at the start of the season the TC 
> had spotted something we hadn't and had moulded Philips into a new , young 
> superstar. I think we can reflect and see that Philips got a 4 year contract 
> based on a few goals and half decent games against the poorer teams in the 
> league. In fact, our results have come against the weaker teams in the 
> leagues and if you take an objective look at the table and who we have played 
> you'd have to say a mid table finish with this team is about right.
> However, I do think there is potential in this team, I do think we have some 
> better players and I think if TC can steady the ship and maybe pick players 
> more suited to his style we have a chance of improving on last year but I 
> think the next few games are the true test of TC and his team. I remember 
> Wagner adopted this style and was crucified by some Town fans after variable 
> results but he stuck to his task , got some players in who can handle it and 
> he ended up in the PL.
> As for the game today, I thought it was a game between two low in confidence 
> , poor teams. I thought Reading has a couple of top players. Their big 
> striker had a nice touch on him and one left Cooper for dead in the first 
> half - you rarely see a central defender left for dead like he did to Cooper. 
> There weren't many chances (I don't think we had any) and Lonergan made a 
> decent save for their only chance. The worrying thing for me though is that 
> we played 45 mins looking like a team who weren't that bothered. We struggled 
> to put 2 passes together and in midfield we didn't compete. Hernandez was 
> again relegated to the left wing and Saiz was playing high up the park and as 
> a result hardly had a kick as we struggled to take control of the game. 
> Second half, with O'Kane came deeper it was better but it took the 
> introduction of Sackoshit (for ineffective Roofe) to really change things. He 
> gave us a bit of pace and a bit of directness that seemed to spur us on. 
> Suddenly we wanted it and Saiz started to get on the ball and we started to 
> llok dangerous. However as we pushed forward Reading did us on the break with 
> a simple goal scored by Barrow - when he came it on someone commented that it 
> was inevitable he was going to score. He nearly scored prior to the goal with 
> a hard shot which was well saved by Lonergan. 
> We huffed and puffed, Jansson missed the chance of the game, skying over from 
> 6 yards after great work from Hernandes and eventually we 

Re: [LU] Terrible

[Rob Heath]

Wow!

Every cloud has a silver lining,eh?

That's great news! Fuck off over to the Abu Dhabi City list
thenyou won't be missed.

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Michael Benjamin  wrote:

> I gave up, blessed SKY I could not watch.
> Instead, I saw two great games: L'Pool vs Man U & Man City vs Stoke. No
> way we can think of competing. I do not know if we lost or draw, frankly, I
> do not care.
> We have tried everything apart from doing what we should. Invest in the
> team and bring a normal manager.
> There have been too many hopes and even more disappointments. I am 73,
> been here since the age of 4. Moreover, I know, in my lifetime I will not
> see nowt.
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
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>
> |-Original Message-
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> Moran
> |Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:53 PM
> |To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} Richard Walker
> |
> |Subject: Re: [LU] Terrible
> |
> |And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
> |relegation form.
> |
> |On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> |richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> |
> |> Fucking terrible this
> |>
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[LU] Reading

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

This was a horror show especially the first 45 minutes where we just didn't 
look like a team. TC dropped his keeper which was a good decision but he now 
has to seriously have a look at his style of play and look to whether he should 
develop a Plan B.
It is painful to see us pass square balls across the back until we were put 
under pressure and had to go back to Lonerghan. You could see the players 
thinking we've been told to do this but it isn't working. We continually put 
herself under pressure because to play this system you need at least one 
midfielder who can sit deep, offer himself and make things happen. Both O'Kane 
and Philips didn't seem to want to do this. It took TC 45 minutes to see that 
this wasn't working and he changed it second half by moving O'Kane deep to sit 
between them and start the moves. It was better but I still don't think we're a 
team that is capable of playing this type of football in the championship. And 
whilst we've been praising TC and slagging Garry Monk (me included) maybe we 
should now begin to question whether Monk's limited tactics and straight 
forward approach with a hungry team might be a better way forward to this 
continental game that TC is trying to adopt with players who find it hard to 
pass a ball at times. 
The reason TC doesn't want to see us punt it long is that we don't have anyone 
capable of winning the ball. Lasogga is a big unit but he is shite at 50:50 
balls in the air, in fact today he rarely got off the ground and when Grot came 
on he us a masterclass of how a 7ft bloke can look ineffective in the air. 
I think the main weaknesses today other than the system was our two central 
midfielders - O'Kane and Philips. It seemed at the start of the season the TC 
had spotted something we hadn't and had moulded Philips into a new , young 
superstar. I think we can reflect and see that Philips got a 4 year contract 
based on a few goals and half decent games against the poorer teams in the 
league. In fact, our results have come against the weaker teams in the leagues 
and if you take an objective look at the table and who we have played you'd 
have to say a mid table finish with this team is about right.
However, I do think there is potential in this team, I do think we have some 
better players and I think if TC can steady the ship and maybe pick players 
more suited to his style we have a chance of improving on last year but I think 
the next few games are the true test of TC and his team. I remember Wagner 
adopted this style and was crucified by some Town fans after variable results 
but he stuck to his task , got some players in who can handle it and he ended 
up in the PL.
As for the game today, I thought it was a game between two low in confidence , 
poor teams. I thought Reading has a couple of top players. Their big striker 
had a nice touch on him and one left Cooper for dead in the first half - you 
rarely see a central defender left for dead like he did to Cooper. There 
weren't many chances (I don't think we had any) and Lonergan made a decent save 
for their only chance. The worrying thing for me though is that we played 45 
mins looking like a team who weren't that bothered. We struggled to put 2 
passes together and in midfield we didn't compete. Hernandez was again 
relegated to the left wing and Saiz was playing high up the park and as a 
result hardly had a kick as we struggled to take control of the game. 
Second half, with O'Kane came deeper it was better but it took the introduction 
of Sackoshit (for ineffective Roofe) to really change things. He gave us a bit 
of pace and a bit of directness that seemed to spur us on. Suddenly we wanted 
it and Saiz started to get on the ball and we started to llok dangerous. 
However as we pushed forward Reading did us on the break with a simple goal 
scored by Barrow - when he came it on someone commented that it was inevitable 
he was going to score. He nearly scored prior to the goal with a hard shot 
which was well saved by Lonergan. 
We huffed and puffed, Jansson missed the chance of the game, skying over from 6 
yards after great work from Hernandes and eventually we got what we deserved as 
Saiz jinked into the box and was brought down. 
Hernandes, the king of penalties, stepped up and placed it with no pace, on the 
floor about 1 yard from the keeper. The easiest penalty save ever. Hernandes 
sank to his knees. Summed up the whole day and the performance perfectly. 
There's so many positive things going on at ER at the moment, the atmosphere is 
great pre-match and the big crowds are coming back however I think there's 
definitely a mini-crisis at the moment which is going to take some hard work to 
get out of. I go from thinking TC will pull it out of the bag and then I think 
he's actually out of his depth as a championship manager. Time will tell. 
Scores:
Lonergan - 7. Good decision, he looked much more solid and made some good 
saves. But why the fuck did we get rid of Rob 

Re: [LU] Terrible

[David Smail]

Couldn't stop winning and now can't stop losing. Fast becoming the
division's whipping boys.

 

How long will the board take this utter collapse? TC had a great start,
nobody could argue that, but it's turned right around. Welcome to LUFC
Thomas - this is what you have chosen to take charge of. We're used to it -
are you?

 

Strachan's free

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is

relegation form.

 

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Re: [LU] Terrible

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Sorry Rob we must have been watching different game. 

Yes the pass was nice but the defending was woeful.

Nick 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Rob Heath  wrote:
> 
> It wasn't that bad.
> 
> Reading are obviously way better than their league position would suggest,
> yet even so we all but won thiswe ground out the first 70
> mins, then we were just turning the screw (chances starting to come, SS
> getting on the ball around the box and starting to produce some magic), and
> then the ref gifted them a goal. And even then, we would have got a point
> but for the missed pen.
> 
> BTWhave to say though, what a beautiful pass that was that put
> Barrow in for their goal.
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Jim Moran  wrote:
>> 
>> And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
>> relegation form.
>> 
>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
>> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Fucking terrible this
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Terrible

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

That was truly appalling. Gutless, disinterested, passionless drivel. Sorry 
what anyone sees in Phillips is beyond me. Totally ineffectual player.

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> Fucking terrible this 
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Re: [LU] Terrible

[Michael Benjamin]

I gave up, blessed SKY I could not watch. 
Instead, I saw two great games: L'Pool vs Man U & Man City vs Stoke. No way we 
can think of competing. I do not know if we lost or draw, frankly, I do not 
care. 
We have tried everything apart from doing what we should. Invest in the team 
and bring a normal manager. 
There have been too many hopes and even more disappointments. I am 73, been 
here since the age of 4. Moreover, I know, in my lifetime I will not see nowt. 

Dr  Michael Benjamin, 
Community Psychiatrist.

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|Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 6:53 PM
|To: leedslist@gn.apc.org; {broken-address} Richard Walker
|
|Subject: Re: [LU] Terrible
|
|And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
|relegation form.
|
|On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
|richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
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Re: [LU] Terrible

[Rob Heath]

It wasn't that bad.

Reading are obviously way better than their league position would suggest,
yet even so we all but won thiswe ground out the first 70
mins, then we were just turning the screw (chances starting to come, SS
getting on the ball around the box and starting to produce some magic), and
then the ref gifted them a goal. And even then, we would have got a point
but for the missed pen.

BTWhave to say though, what a beautiful pass that was that put
Barrow in for their goal.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Jim Moran  wrote:

> And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
> relegation form.
>
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
> richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
>
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Re: [LU] Terrible

[Jim Moran]

And it got worse and worse by the sounds of it. Forget promotion, this is
relegation form.

On Sat, 14 Oct 2017 at 16:00, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
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[LU] Terrible

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

Fucking terrible this 

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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[wayne callaghan]

Bein sports 12

Sent from BlueMail
On 14 Oct 2017, at 14:03, David Komadina 
> wrote:
Bein temporarily lost the efl.. but a couple of recent Leeds games have been 
broadcast

On 14 Oct. 2017 6:16 pm, "Peter Castlehouse" < 
dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
FMD - or Fuck Me Dead for delicate eyes!
For the first time this year, a gameis being broadcast in Australia on BeIn 
Sports!
Something has changed here, as NONE of the previous EFL games have been 
broadcast this season!
Thanks guys for your input and research - problem solved - and game ON!
Aus - BeIn Sports 3, 12:55am

OzPete

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It's on bein sports channel 14 I think

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 >> wrote:

Wont be on is on ESPN etc. however is probably going to be loads of feeds.

Nick

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 On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Graham Palmer < 
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 I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international 
viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.

 Graham

 Sent from my iPad

 On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse < 
dubca...@iinet.net.aumailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>> wrote:

 Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
 The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
 subscription for each match



 OzPete

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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[David Komadina]

Bein temporarily lost the efl.. but a couple of recent Leeds games have
been broadcast

On 14 Oct. 2017 6:16 pm, "Peter Castlehouse"  wrote:

FMD - or Fuck Me Dead for delicate eyes!
For the first time this year, a gameis being broadcast in Australia on BeIn
Sports!
Something has changed here, as NONE of the previous EFL games have been
broadcast this season!
Thanks guys for your input and research - problem solved - and game ON!
Aus - BeIn Sports 3, 12:55am

OzPete

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of wayne
callaghan
Sent: 14 October 2017 21:08
To: arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

It's on bein sports channel 14 I think

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arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

Wont be on is on ESPN etc. however is probably going to be loads of feeds.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Graham Palmer 
wrote:

 I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international
viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.

 Graham

 Sent from my iPad

 On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:

 Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
 The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
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Re: [LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?

[Rob Heath]

Doesn't really help much actually Ian.

Are you saying that nobody watched it?

I don't think that can be right bc I saw that TC was there.
On 14 Oct 2017 19:03, "Ian Murray"  wrote:

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Re: [LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?

[Ian Murray]

No. Hope this helps.



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[LU] Anybody watch the u23s v Crewe?

[Rob Heath]

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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[Peter Castlehouse]

FMD - or Fuck Me Dead for delicate eyes!
For the first time this year, a gameis being broadcast in Australia on BeIn 
Sports!
Something has changed here, as NONE of the previous EFL games have been 
broadcast this season!
Thanks guys for your input and research - problem solved - and game ON!
Aus - BeIn Sports 3, 12:55am

OzPete

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Subject: Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

It's on bein sports channel 14 I think

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On 14 Oct 2017, at 11:04, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
>
 wrote:

Wont be on is on ESPN etc. however is probably going to be loads of feeds.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Graham Palmer  wrote:

 I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international 
viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.

 Graham

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 On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse 
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 Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
 The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[wayne callaghan]

It's on bein sports channel 14 I think

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On 14 Oct 2017, at 11:04, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
>
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Wont be on is on ESPN etc. however is probably going to be loads of feeds.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Graham Palmer  wrote:

 I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international 
viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.

 Graham

 Sent from my iPad

 On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse 
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 Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
 The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
 subscription for each match



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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Wont be on is on ESPN etc. however is probably going to be loads of feeds.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2017, at 5:58 AM, Graham Palmer  wrote:
> 
> I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international 
> viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.
> 
> Graham
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse 
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> Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
> The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
> subscription for each match
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Re: [LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[Graham Palmer]

I have a feeling that it’s not on, as it’s been selected for international 
viewing. May be wrong, but it’s probably worth checking out.

Graham

Sent from my iPad

On 14 Oct 2017, at 10:49, Peter Castlehouse 
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The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
subscription for each match



OzPete

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[LU] Really getting the Shits with LUTV

[Peter Castlehouse]

Is anyone else having purchasing problems before today's match?
The club really needs to look into this.   It takes an eternity to get a
subscription for each match

 

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