Re: [LU] SToked

[Jim Moran]

Thank you Oli McBurnie. Used to work with his mum, done us a right favour
tonight.

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 19:37, Simon McNally  wrote:

> I would imagine Casilla will start against Rotherham and Phillips will be
> back. Rumours Berardi might be available and Bamford.
> Not seen the game today apart from their first goal (what was Klich
> doing?) , a horrendous dive from one of their players and the “challenge”
> that got Pontus a second yellow.
> Sounded like we were poor in the final third and gave away two soft goals.
> Seen some comments saying BPF punched when he could have caught in build up
> to second goal but not seen it so can’t comment.
> Swansea have done us a big favour by beating Sheff Utd tonight. Gap to
> third still 4 points and Norwich play Sheff Utd next week. A good result
> against Rotherham and they take points off each other and we’re smiling
> again!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:34, Richard Naef 
> wrote:
> >
> > Errr maybe if we can better than we have, also depends on the medical
> situation, Brown, Bamford and Berra
> >
> > Sent from my mobile
> >
> > 
> > From: Richard Walker 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:29:52 PM
> > To: Richard Naef
> > Cc: Leeds List
> > Subject: Re: [LU] SToked
> >
> > 4 defeats in 5 ?
> >
> > Still don’t need to strengthen ?
> >
> >
> >> On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:11, Richard Naef 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ref was just implementing the points Deduction early
> >>
> >> ttfn
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
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Re: [LU] SToked

[Simon McNally]

I would imagine Casilla will start against Rotherham and Phillips will be back. 
Rumours Berardi might be available and Bamford.
Not seen the game today apart from their first goal (what was Klich doing?) , a 
horrendous dive from one of their players and the “challenge” that got Pontus a 
second yellow.
Sounded like we were poor in the final third and gave away two soft goals. Seen 
some comments saying BPF punched when he could have caught in build up to 
second goal but not seen it so can’t comment.
Swansea have done us a big favour by beating Sheff Utd tonight. Gap to third 
still 4 points and Norwich play Sheff Utd next week. A good result against 
Rotherham and they take points off each other and we’re smiling again!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:34, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Errr maybe if we can better than we have, also depends on the medical 
> situation, Brown, Bamford and Berra
> 
> Sent from my mobile
> 
> 
> From: Richard Walker 
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:29:52 PM
> To: Richard Naef
> Cc: Leeds List
> Subject: Re: [LU] SToked
> 
> 4 defeats in 5 ?
> 
> Still don’t need to strengthen ?
> 
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:11, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ref was just implementing the points Deduction early
>> 
>> ttfn
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: [LU] Salim

[seanscribe--- via Leedslist]

None of that makes him a great interpreter. I basically figured this was 
deliberate on Bielsa's part. Having a 'terp whose native language is neither 
English nor Spanish is almost guaranteed to produce really tortured 
translations, and that's what we get.
Cheers!
Sean


-Original Message-
From: Guy Bonello 
To: David Campbell 
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Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2019 11:05 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Salim

Sorbonne lecturer published author and One of the foremost experts on
Cuba's political history

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 17:02, David Campbell  wrote:

> Think Rob should google Salim, might get a surprise MOT
> DaveC
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Re: [LU] SToked

[Richard Naef]

Errr maybe if we can better than we have, also depends on the medical 
situation, Brown, Bamford and Berra

Sent from my mobile


From: Richard Walker 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 5:29:52 PM
To: Richard Naef
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] SToked

4 defeats in 5 ?

Still don’t need to strengthen ?


> On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:11, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
>
> Ref was just implementing the points Deduction early
>
> ttfn
>
> Richard
>
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Re: [LU] SToked

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

4 defeats in 5 ? 

Still don’t need to strengthen ?


> On 19 Jan 2019, at 17:11, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Ref was just implementing the points Deduction early
> 
> ttfn
> 
> Richard
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[LU] SToked

[Richard Naef]

Ref was just implementing the points Deduction early

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Michael Benjamin]

I am none too happy about the hysteria, faux indignation and the ever-present 
pressure now on Bielsa. I am sure that he can handle pressure on the pitch. But 
I wonder how he will cope with the constant baying of the jackasses.



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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ted 

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 4:25:46 PM
To: Robert Heath
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Bielsa

Ha ha, great!
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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Ted]

Ha ha, great!
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Re: [LU] Football Focus

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 I actually watched Football Focus for the first time for a very long time 
today. First of all I was surprised they had a women pundit on but fair dos we 
move on and progress HOWEVER she was fucking clueless and I was left with my 
original view in that women know fuck all about football. 
On Saturday, 19 January 2019, 12:55:41 GMT, John Lee via Leedslist 
 wrote:  
 
 I don’t know how I’ve managed to avoid turning this crud off, with Paul Ince 
giggling/flirting with Alex Scott in a manner that would shame a 15 year old.

However, Marcello eventually came up. Scott talked about ‘going against good 
faith in football’, where-as Ince said he didn’t like to see all these people 
jumping on the band wagon. Good faith - in a profession staffed by the most 
blinkered, cheating, lying two-faced numb-nuts you could ever hope to see. 

Tangentially, if the Beeb intends to bring in female footballers across all 
its’ programmes, can they try and find some who have a grasp of the english 
language sub Shearer! Dullards.

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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Robert Heath]

Just been out for a fantastic bike ride through the hills of the
Corbieresand came up with a few more lines:

When you're top of the pack playing kids at the back...That's
Bielsa.
When the shit hit the fan we've got powerpoint manThat's Bielsa.
Poor Fat Frank got upset we stuck six in his net.That's Bielsa.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth
> a second read if you have!
> ——-
>
> Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best,
> but at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
> Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i
> watch football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa
> arrive, and even more now.
>
> From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked
> bielsa, But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you
> realized who is Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine,
> what do I do here?
> I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River
> Plate fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football
> coach.  It is a way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.
>
> We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching
> all the Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the
> goals of the leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
>  Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa
> leaves Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's
> matches, wishing him well
>
> Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the
> influence of Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of
> Chilean society. When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before
> playing that they would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
> He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they
> beat us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the
> entire Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in
> football. what made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the
> whole society
> That's Bielsa.
>
> In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted
> 85% of society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to
> clarify that the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.
>
> Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or
> monopolies of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile
> the mercury, in england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews
> outside of press conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to
> inviting coaches or players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press
> only at conferences, which means that if you are from a local radio, or
> from the largest media corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin,
> in Argentina, hated that. They criticized him for not going to his
> television channels for interviews, and he received them only at a press
> conference with local radio stations. That's bielsa, equality. Regardless
> if you are an independent media, or a corporation.
>
> He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most
> : ¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better
> person I am¨
>
> Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the
> best. Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English
> football, per moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
> He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like
> Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you
> are already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier
> league next year. That's bielsa.
>
> If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of
> the result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or
> complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And that, is not
> only in a football match, also in life.
>
> In life, you have people who speculate, or you have people who risk
> everything for what they believe. Bielsa, risk everything for what he
> believes, me too. That's why Bielsa is more than a football coach, he is a
> coach of life. Enjoy it, it can last for years or days, with him you never
> know. Therefore, enjoy every day.
>
> Sorry for the length of my posting, but I wanted to tell you how I feel.
> In this time I have learned a lot from Leeds, and it is a fascinating club
> with fans and a huge history.
> Not only will you promote the premier league, you will promote playing an
> incredible football, with honesty, with risk, with ideology, with values.
>

Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Richard Naef]

Poetry post of the decade!

Sent from my mobile


From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 11:50:55 AM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Leeds List 2010
Subject: Re: [LU] Bielsa

I read this fantastic message, then went outside in the lovely winter
sunshine down here in the South of France to repair a wall. I couldn't get
the phrase "That's Bielsa" out of my head, and it soon became that song
that Brighton fans used to sing about "That's Zamora." And then I started
working on some lyrics:

When you're team's in first place in the promotion raceThat's
Bielsa.
We were thirteenth last year, now we're four points clear..That's
Bielsa.

When you beat Derby away scoring four on the day.That's Bielsa.
When you send out a spy but there's no reason why.That's Bielsa.

Phillips had feet of clay now he plays like PeleThat's Bielsa.
Cooper played like a cock now he's solid as a rock...That's Bielsa.

When life used to be dark then you discover Jack Clarke.That's
Bielsa.
When they all thought he'd quit and he said "Lampard's shit"..That's
Bielsa.

Copyright R. Heath 2019

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth
> a second read if you have!
> ——-
>
> Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best,
> but at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
> Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i
> watch football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa
> arrive, and even more now.
>
> From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked
> bielsa, But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you
> realized who is Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine,
> what do I do here?
> I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River
> Plate fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football
> coach.  It is a way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.
>
> We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching
> all the Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the
> goals of the leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
>  Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa
> leaves Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's
> matches, wishing him well
>
> Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the
> influence of Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of
> Chilean society. When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before
> playing that they would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
> He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they
> beat us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the
> entire Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in
> football. what made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the
> whole society
> That's Bielsa.
>
> In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted
> 85% of society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to
> clarify that the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.
>
> Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or
> monopolies of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile
> the mercury, in england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews
> outside of press conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to
> inviting coaches or players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press
> only at conferences, which means that if you are from a local radio, or
> from the largest media corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin,
> in Argentina, hated that. They criticized him for not going to his
> television channels for interviews, and he received them only at a press
> conference with local radio stations. That's bielsa, equality. Regardless
> if you are an independent media, or a corporation.
>
> He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most
> : ¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better
> person I am¨
>
> Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the
> best. Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English
> football, per moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
> He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like
> Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you
> are already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier
> league next year. That's bielsa.
>
> If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of
> 

[LU] Sorry didn't see that the rev had already posted

[Richard Naef]

Sent from my mobile

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[LU] Long repost of a FB post from a Bielsa fan, great reading

[Richard Naef]

Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best, but 
at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i watch 
football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa arrive, and even 
more now.

From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked bielsa, 
But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you realized who is 
Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine, what do I do here?
I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River Plate 
fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football coach.  It is a 
way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.

We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching all the 
Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the goals of the 
leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa leaves 
Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's matches, 
wishing him well

Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the influence of 
Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of Chilean society. 
When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before playing that they 
would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they beat 
us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the entire 
Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in football. what 
made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the whole society
That's Bielsa.

In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted 85% of 
society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to clarify that 
the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.

Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or monopolies 
of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile the mercury, in 
england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews outside of press 
conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to inviting coaches or 
players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press only at conferences, 
which means that if you are from a local radio, or from the largest media 
corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin, in Argentina, hated that. 
They criticized him for not going to his television channels for interviews, 
and he received them only at a press conference with local radio stations. 
That's bielsa, equality. Regardless if you are an independent media, or a 
corporation.

He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most : 
¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better person 
I am¨

Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the best. 
Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English football, per 
moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like 
Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you are 
already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier league 
next year. That's bielsa.

If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of the 
result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or 
complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And that, is not only 
in a football match, also in life.

In life, you have people who speculate, or you have people who risk everything 
for what they believe. Bielsa, risk everything for what he believes, me too. 
That's why Bielsa is more than a football coach, he is a coach of life. Enjoy 
it, it can last for years or days, with him you never know. Therefore, enjoy 
every day.

Sorry for the length of my posting, but I wanted to tell you how I feel. In 
this time I have learned a lot from Leeds, and it is a fascinating club with 
fans and a huge history.
Not only will you promote the premier league, you will promote playing an 
incredible football, with honesty, with risk, with ideology, with values.

Greetings, friends. From Argentina

PS:  "The recovery work has five or six guidelines, the limit is reached, the 
offensive football is infinite, endless, which is why it is easier to defend 
than to create"

"I am an obsessive of the attack, I watch videos to attack, not to defend ... 
to have the ball, to have authority"

¨Success is an exception and not a continuous'

"For me, trust is a synonym of relaxation, I prefer fear, because it forces you 
to be attentive"

Marcelo Bielsa.

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[LU] Football Focus

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I don’t know how I’ve managed to avoid turning this crud off, with Paul Ince 
giggling/flirting with Alex Scott in a manner that would shame a 15 year old.

However, Marcello eventually came up. Scott talked about ‘going against good 
faith in football’, where-as Ince said he didn’t like to see all these people 
jumping on the band wagon. Good faith - in a profession staffed by the most 
blinkered, cheating, lying two-faced numb-nuts you could ever hope to see. 

Tangentially, if the Beeb intends to bring in female footballers across all 
its’ programmes, can they try and find some who have a grasp of the english 
language sub Shearer! Dullards.

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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

Brlliant


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 6:50 AM, Robert Heath  
wrote:

I read this fantastic message, then went outside in the lovely winter
sunshine down here in the South of France to repair a wall. I couldn't get
the phrase "That's Bielsa" out of my head, and it soon became that song
that Brighton fans used to sing about "That's Zamora." And then I started
working on some lyrics:

When you're team's in first place in the promotion raceThat's
Bielsa.
We were thirteenth last year, now we're four points clear..That's
Bielsa.

When you beat Derby away scoring four on the day.That's Bielsa.
When you send out a spy but there's no reason why.That's Bielsa.

Phillips had feet of clay now he plays like PeleThat's Bielsa.
Cooper played like a cock now he's solid as a rock...That's Bielsa.

When life used to be dark then you discover Jack Clarke.That's
Bielsa.
When they all thought he'd quit and he said "Lampard's shit"..That's
Bielsa.

Copyright R. Heath 2019

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth
> a second read if you have!
> ——-
>
> Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best,
> but at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
> Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i
> watch football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa
> arrive, and even more now.
>
> From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked
> bielsa, But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you
> realized who is Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine,
> what do I do here?
> I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River
> Plate fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football
> coach.  It is a way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.
>
> We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching
> all the Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the
> goals of the leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
>  Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa
> leaves Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's
> matches, wishing him well
>
> Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the
> influence of Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of
> Chilean society. When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before
> playing that they would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
> He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they
> beat us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the
> entire Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in
> football. what made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the
> whole society
> That's Bielsa.
>
> In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted
> 85% of society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to
> clarify that the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.
>
> Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or
> monopolies of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile
> the mercury, in england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews
> outside of press conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to
> inviting coaches or players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press
> only at conferences, which means that if you are from a local radio, or
> from the largest media corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin,
> in Argentina, hated that. They criticized him for not going to his
> television channels for interviews, and he received them only at a press
> conference with local radio stations. That's bielsa, equality. Regardless
> if you are an independent media, or a corporation.
>
> He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most
> : ¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better
> person I am¨
>
> Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the
> best. Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English
> football, per moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
> He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like
> Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you
> are already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier
> league next year. That's bielsa.
>
> If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of
> the result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or
> complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And 

Re: [LU] Bielsa

[nat...@sky.com]

 Nice one - loved itDave
On Saturday, 19 January 2019, 11:51:24 GMT, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 I read this fantastic message, then went outside in the lovely winter
sunshine down here in the South of France to repair a wall. I couldn't get
the phrase "That's Bielsa" out of my head, and it soon became that song
that Brighton fans used to sing about "That's Zamora." And then I started
working on some lyrics:

When you're team's in first place in the promotion raceThat's
Bielsa.
We were thirteenth last year, now we're four points clear..That's
Bielsa.

When you beat Derby away scoring four on the day.That's Bielsa.
When you send out a spy but there's no reason why.That's Bielsa.

Phillips had feet of clay now he plays like PeleThat's Bielsa.
Cooper played like a cock now he's solid as a rock...That's Bielsa.

When life used to be dark then you discover Jack Clarke.That's
Bielsa.
When they all thought he'd quit and he said "Lampard's shit"..That's
Bielsa.

Copyright R. Heath 2019

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth
> a second read if you have!
> ——-
>
> Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best,
> but at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
> Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i
> watch football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa
> arrive, and even more now.
>
> From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked
> bielsa, But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you
> realized who is Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine,
> what do I do here?
> I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River
> Plate fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football
> coach.  It is a way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.
>
> We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching
> all the Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the
> goals of the leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
>  Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa
> leaves Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's
> matches, wishing him well
>
> Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the
> influence of Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of
> Chilean society. When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before
> playing that they would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
> He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they
> beat us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the
> entire Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in
> football. what made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the
> whole society
> That's Bielsa.
>
> In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted
> 85% of society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to
> clarify that the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.
>
> Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or
> monopolies of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile
> the mercury, in england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews
> outside of press conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to
> inviting coaches or players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press
> only at conferences, which means that if you are from a local radio, or
> from the largest media corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin,
> in Argentina, hated that. They criticized him for not going to his
> television channels for interviews, and he received them only at a press
> conference with local radio stations. That's bielsa, equality. Regardless
> if you are an independent media, or a corporation.
>
> He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most
> : ¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better
> person I am¨
>
> Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the
> best. Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English
> football, per moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
> He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like
> Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you
> are already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier
> league next year. That's bielsa.
>
> If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of
> the result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or
> complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And that, is 

Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Robert Heath]

I read this fantastic message, then went outside in the lovely winter
sunshine down here in the South of France to repair a wall. I couldn't get
the phrase "That's Bielsa" out of my head, and it soon became that song
that Brighton fans used to sing about "That's Zamora." And then I started
working on some lyrics:

When you're team's in first place in the promotion raceThat's
Bielsa.
We were thirteenth last year, now we're four points clear..That's
Bielsa.

When you beat Derby away scoring four on the day.That's Bielsa.
When you send out a spy but there's no reason why.That's Bielsa.

Phillips had feet of clay now he plays like PeleThat's Bielsa.
Cooper played like a cock now he's solid as a rock...That's Bielsa.

When life used to be dark then you discover Jack Clarke.That's
Bielsa.
When they all thought he'd quit and he said "Lampard's shit"..That's
Bielsa.

Copyright R. Heath 2019

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 10:12 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth
> a second read if you have!
> ——-
>
> Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best,
> but at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago.
> Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i
> watch football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa
> arrive, and even more now.
>
> From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked
> bielsa, But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you
> realized who is Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine,
> what do I do here?
> I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River
> Plate fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football
> coach.  It is a way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating.
>
> We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching
> all the Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the
> goals of the leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
>  Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa
> leaves Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's
> matches, wishing him well
>
> Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the
> influence of Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of
> Chilean society. When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before
> playing that they would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could.
> He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they
> beat us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the
> entire Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in
> football. what made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the
> whole society
> That's Bielsa.
>
> In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted
> 85% of society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to
> clarify that the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.
>
> Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or
> monopolies of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile
> the mercury, in england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews
> outside of press conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to
> inviting coaches or players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press
> only at conferences, which means that if you are from a local radio, or
> from the largest media corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin,
> in Argentina, hated that. They criticized him for not going to his
> television channels for interviews, and he received them only at a press
> conference with local radio stations. That's bielsa, equality. Regardless
> if you are an independent media, or a corporation.
>
> He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most
> : ¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better
> person I am¨
>
> Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the
> best. Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English
> football, per moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
> He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like
> Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you
> are already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier
> league next year. That's bielsa.
>
> If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of
> the result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or
> complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And that, is not
> only in a football match, also in life.
>
> In life, you have people who speculate, or you have 

Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Michael Benjamin]

Bielsa mania - all because he is a unique phenomenon.
I love the guy.


Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community  Psychiatrist,
Oranit,
Israel 4481300
+972505317772
SKYPE:BEDENOGA
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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ian Murray 

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 11:19:49 AM
To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Leeds List 2010
Subject: Re: [LU] Bielsa

I hadn't seen it mate. Great post.


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Re: [LU] Bielsa

[Ian Murray]

I hadn't seen it mate. Great post.


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[LU] Bielsa

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Some of you may have seen this on the WACCOE facebook page, but well worth a 
second read if you have!
——-

Hello from Argentina. First of all, sorry for my english is not the best, but 
at least is better than bielsa´s .  I'm in this group two months ago. 
Why im here? First, because of Bielsa. Second, because i love football, i watch 
football from all around the world. I like leeds before Bielsa arrive, and even 
more now. 

From the first moment I realized that the fans of leeds united liked bielsa, 
But I feel that after the press conference the other day, you realized who is 
Bielsa really. Think about it for a moment, I'm Argentine, what do I do here? 
I'm not even a fan of the Newells old boys (Bielsa's team), im a River Plate 
fan. The answer is because Bielsa is much more than a football coach.  It is a 
way of seeing life, and I'm not exaggerating. 

We have Argentines, Chileans, Bilbao fanatics, Marseille fans, watching all the 
Leeds United games, and even celebrating the goals.I screamed the goals of the 
leeds this year, as if they were from the river plate.
 Some other coach can generate that?. It will happen to you when Bielsa leaves 
Leeds United. You are going to follow him. Watching Bielsa´s team's matches, 
wishing him well

Some facts : In Chile, anthropologists, sociologists, analyze the influence of 
Bielsa in Chilean society. Bielsa modified the self-esteem of Chilean society. 
When Chile faced Argentina or Brazil, they thought before playing that they 
would lose. Bielsa, made them believe they could. 
He made them believe that they were just as good as them. In fact, they beat 
us, Argentina,  for the first time. That trust was transferred to the entire 
Chilean society, which began to trust in themselves. Not only in football. what 
made anthropologists interested in the Bielsa effect on the whole society
That's Bielsa. 

In 2007 there were presidential elections in Chile. In a poll conducted 85% of 
society wanted Bielsa as president of the nation. It is good to clarify that 
the Chileans above, do not like the Argentines. That´s Bielsa.

Throughout his career Bielsa had an enemy in common. Corporations or monopolies 
of the press. In Argentina clarin, in bilbao the mail, in Chile the mercury, in 
england sky. Why? First, Bielsa rarely gives interviews outside of press 
conferences. The mediatic corporacoines are accustomed to inviting coaches or 
players to their channels. Bielsa speaks to the press only at conferences, 
which means that if you are from a local radio, or from the largest media 
corporation, you have the same opportunity. Clarin, in Argentina, hated that. 
They criticized him for not going to his television channels for interviews, 
and he received them only at a press conference with local radio stations. 
That's bielsa, equality. Regardless if you are an independent media, or a 
corporation.

He once told a Clarin journalist, one of his phrases that I liked the most : 
¨The further away I am from you, and from what you represent, the better person 
I am¨

Bielsa is more than a football coach. But also as a football coach is the best. 
Makes a team that finished 13th in the second division of English football, per 
moment play in the same way as Barcelona or Manchester City.
He made all the Leeds United fans believe that you can also play like 
Barcelona, ​​that you will play next year in the Premier League, and you are 
already thinking that Leeds will play an excellent role in the premier league 
next year. That's bielsa.

If a Bielsa team is winning a match 2 to 0, Bielsa will not take care of the 
result, will go for the third goal. Running the risk of being tied or 
complicate the game. He prefers risk before speculation. And that, is not only 
in a football match, also in life.

In life, you have people who speculate, or you have people who risk everything 
for what they believe. Bielsa, risk everything for what he believes, me too. 
That's why Bielsa is more than a football coach, he is a coach of life. Enjoy 
it, it can last for years or days, with him you never know. Therefore, enjoy 
every day. 

Sorry for the length of my posting, but I wanted to tell you how I feel. In 
this time I have learned a lot from Leeds, and it is a fascinating club with 
fans and a huge history.
Not only will you promote the premier league, you will promote playing an 
incredible football, with honesty, with risk, with ideology, with values.

Greetings, friends. From Argentina

PS:  "The recovery work has five or six guidelines, the limit is reached, the 
offensive football is infinite, endless, which is why it is easier to defend 
than to create"

"I am an obsessive of the attack, I watch videos to attack, not to defend ... 
to have the ball, to have authority"

¨Success is an exception and not a continuous'

"For me, trust is a synonym of relaxation, I prefer fear, because it forces you 
to be attentive"

Marcelo Bielsa.

Sent from my iPad