Re: [LU] You make your own luck?
Very well put Simon. Best regards,Scott. > On 7 Oct 2019, at 17:05, Simon McNally wrote: > > I think that when you don’t score when you’re on top, you lose the right to > grumble about bad luck , poor refereeing decisions etc. > It’s not the ref that misses clear chances or switches off at the back. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:02, Ed Morrish wrote: >> >> The thing is, if we're doing all the right things then our goals won't seem >> "lucky", they'll seem like just rewards... >> >>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:52, Robert Heath wrote: >>> >>> I have always been a firm believer in the adage that "You make your own >>> luck." From what I have seen and heard, Bielsa is also an adherent. He >>> clearly believes that if we keep playing the "right" way, keep swarming >>> over the opponents and making our overloads and delivering the ball into >>> the danger area, then the rewards (goals) will come. They may not arrive in >>> any one particular match, or even in a few consecutive matches (as is >>> happening at the moment), but over a series of, say, 46 matches, more goals >>> will arrive than would result from say lumping the ball aimlessly into the >>> box. >>> >>> I absolutely agree with that analysis, on a logical and theoretical level. >>> >>> But on an emotional level, I am screaming WHEN WILL OUR BLOODY LUCK >>> TURN? >>> >>> Contrast how hard we have worked, and how well we have played, to chisel >>> out our last 2 goals (v WBA & M/wall) with bloody Derby Bastard County. >>> They got the 2 jammiest goals ever v Luton on Saturday. Luck which they >>> certainly didn't "make." >>> >>> We did get a few "lucky" goals last season (Roofe's handball v Forest and a >>> Rotherham keeper error giving Roofe a 6 inch tap-in are two I >>> recall.but going back to my thesis, they were lucky goals we >>> "made" by pressurising and constantly attacking opponents, unlike the >>> undeserved lucky goals Derby got.) >>> >>> So what am I saying? Let's keep faith in Bielsa, and trust that soon enough >>> our luck will turn. SURELY??? >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>> >>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ed Morrish >> e...@morrish.org | 07870657825 >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] You make your own luck?
I think that when you don’t score when you’re on top, you lose the right to grumble about bad luck , poor refereeing decisions etc. It’s not the ref that misses clear chances or switches off at the back. Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Oct 2019, at 11:02, Ed Morrish wrote: > > The thing is, if we're doing all the right things then our goals won't seem > "lucky", they'll seem like just rewards... > >> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:52, Robert Heath wrote: >> >> I have always been a firm believer in the adage that "You make your own >> luck." From what I have seen and heard, Bielsa is also an adherent. He >> clearly believes that if we keep playing the "right" way, keep swarming >> over the opponents and making our overloads and delivering the ball into >> the danger area, then the rewards (goals) will come. They may not arrive in >> any one particular match, or even in a few consecutive matches (as is >> happening at the moment), but over a series of, say, 46 matches, more goals >> will arrive than would result from say lumping the ball aimlessly into the >> box. >> >> I absolutely agree with that analysis, on a logical and theoretical level. >> >> But on an emotional level, I am screaming WHEN WILL OUR BLOODY LUCK >> TURN? >> >> Contrast how hard we have worked, and how well we have played, to chisel >> out our last 2 goals (v WBA & M/wall) with bloody Derby Bastard County. >> They got the 2 jammiest goals ever v Luton on Saturday. Luck which they >> certainly didn't "make." >> >> We did get a few "lucky" goals last season (Roofe's handball v Forest and a >> Rotherham keeper error giving Roofe a 6 inch tap-in are two I >> recall.but going back to my thesis, they were lucky goals we >> "made" by pressurising and constantly attacking opponents, unlike the >> undeserved lucky goals Derby got.) >> >> So what am I saying? Let's keep faith in Bielsa, and trust that soon enough >> our luck will turn. SURELY??? >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> > > > -- > Ed Morrish > e...@morrish.org | 07870657825 > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] Millwall highlights
I thought it was noticeable how we struggled to play out from the back against WBA after cooper went off. As well as not being a centre back, Berardi is not as comfortable with the ball at his feet as the others. There were a few occasions where White chose to play up the line instead of square to Berardi, which he would have done if Cooper were there. Casilla did the same as well, choosing to kick long instead of go short to Berardi. I like how Berardi shows passion etc but I just don’t think he’s good enough either as a footballer or his temperament. The playoff defeat to derby should have been his last game in a Leeds shirt. S Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Oct 2019, at 09:05, Richard Walker wrote: > > Simon, you clearly state what we all know about the centre back situation. > Why can't the manager and the board see it ? Cooper always gets injured, it > was just a matter of time and Beradi is not a centre back and always gets > sent off. We are totally exposed at the back. > > On Sunday, 6 October 2019, 15:50:57 BST, Simon McNally > wrote: > > > I agree. Too many times we (and Berardi in particular) put the referee in a > position where he has to make a decision. It wasn’t a pen and definitely not > a red but Berardi’s poor position allowed the striker to run off the back of > him. > I still don’t understand why we haven’t got more cover at cb. Cooper has > never played a full season through injury or suspension or both. He played 37 > in the league last year and the most he’s done is 39 4 years ago. You’d think > then that we’d have a third recognised cb with some experience of the > division as backup. > I know we were down to ten for a long time but only one shot on goal isn’t > good enough. > The team is carrying too many passengers and I really don’t see us finishing > top two this year. > > A > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 6 Oct 2019, at 15:05, David Smail wrote: > > > > I agree that his red card yesterday was a terrible decision and the ref was > > made to look stupid and gullible. > > > > > > > > Sadly though, most of his others have been correct. For all his dedication > > and fearlessness, the guy is a hot head, liability and costs us. He should > > know that any challenge in that position is inviting a dive. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the worst sending-off decision I have seen for years. > > > > > > > > Talk about giving a dog a bad name. So now Breradi has the highest number of > > > > > > sendings-off for any one player in the entire EFL, since he made his debut > > for > > > > us.5 years ago. Laughable. > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] Perhaps.....
Steve Evans is now gainfully employed as manager of Gillingham. And an opposing manager recently commented that for Gillingham fans, watching what happens in his dugout is far more entertaining than anything his team produce on the pitch. On Sunday, 6 October 2019, 21:48:32 BST, Richard Naef wrote: Loses this w/e for Bielsa, Guardiola, pochettcino but Bruce winning. Maybe these fancy pants foreign experts are wrong, we'd be better casting ourselves adrift and depending on British managers with British values? Is Steve Evans available? Sent from my Mobile. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] You make your own luck?
The thing is, if we're doing all the right things then our goals won't seem "lucky", they'll seem like just rewards... On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:52, Robert Heath wrote: > I have always been a firm believer in the adage that "You make your own > luck." From what I have seen and heard, Bielsa is also an adherent. He > clearly believes that if we keep playing the "right" way, keep swarming > over the opponents and making our overloads and delivering the ball into > the danger area, then the rewards (goals) will come. They may not arrive in > any one particular match, or even in a few consecutive matches (as is > happening at the moment), but over a series of, say, 46 matches, more goals > will arrive than would result from say lumping the ball aimlessly into the > box. > > I absolutely agree with that analysis, on a logical and theoretical level. > > But on an emotional level, I am screaming WHEN WILL OUR BLOODY LUCK > TURN? > > Contrast how hard we have worked, and how well we have played, to chisel > out our last 2 goals (v WBA & M/wall) with bloody Derby Bastard County. > They got the 2 jammiest goals ever v Luton on Saturday. Luck which they > certainly didn't "make." > > We did get a few "lucky" goals last season (Roofe's handball v Forest and a > Rotherham keeper error giving Roofe a 6 inch tap-in are two I > recall.but going back to my thesis, they were lucky goals we > "made" by pressurising and constantly attacking opponents, unlike the > undeserved lucky goals Derby got.) > > So what am I saying? Let's keep faith in Bielsa, and trust that soon enough > our luck will turn. SURELY??? > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > -- Ed Morrish e...@morrish.org | 07870657825 ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
[LU] You make your own luck?
I have always been a firm believer in the adage that "You make your own luck." From what I have seen and heard, Bielsa is also an adherent. He clearly believes that if we keep playing the "right" way, keep swarming over the opponents and making our overloads and delivering the ball into the danger area, then the rewards (goals) will come. They may not arrive in any one particular match, or even in a few consecutive matches (as is happening at the moment), but over a series of, say, 46 matches, more goals will arrive than would result from say lumping the ball aimlessly into the box. I absolutely agree with that analysis, on a logical and theoretical level. But on an emotional level, I am screaming WHEN WILL OUR BLOODY LUCK TURN? Contrast how hard we have worked, and how well we have played, to chisel out our last 2 goals (v WBA & M/wall) with bloody Derby Bastard County. They got the 2 jammiest goals ever v Luton on Saturday. Luck which they certainly didn't "make." We did get a few "lucky" goals last season (Roofe's handball v Forest and a Rotherham keeper error giving Roofe a 6 inch tap-in are two I recall.but going back to my thesis, they were lucky goals we "made" by pressurising and constantly attacking opponents, unlike the undeserved lucky goals Derby got.) So what am I saying? Let's keep faith in Bielsa, and trust that soon enough our luck will turn. SURELY??? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] Millwall highlights
Bielsa's plan is to have 2 players for each position, including those that he feels can play in more than 1 position. He thinks too many players not playing is disruptive to the team. That's what we have. Even if you think he's wrong which top centre halves would you want us to recruit, in view of the lack of finances? As for Saturday, he admits he made mistakes, by not rearranging the formation in the first half. As gutwrenchingly horrible as I felt at the final whistle, I find that refreshing. Also as Nick A said, the team played very well with 10 men, a team to be proud of. -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of Richard Walker via Leedslist Sent: 07 October 2019 09:06 To: David Smail ; Simon McNally Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Millwall highlights Simon, you clearly state what we all know about the centre back situation. Why can't the manager and the board see it ? Cooper always gets injured, it was just a matter of time and Beradi is not a centre back and always gets sent off. We are totally exposed at the back. On Sunday, 6 October 2019, 15:50:57 BST, Simon McNally wrote: I agree. Too many times we (and Berardi in particular) put the referee in a position where he has to make a decision. It wasn’t a pen and definitely not a red but Berardi’s poor position allowed the striker to run off the back of him. I still don’t understand why we haven’t got more cover at cb. Cooper has never played a full season through injury or suspension or both. He played 37 in the league last year and the most he’s done is 39 4 years ago. You’d think then that we’d have a third recognised cb with some experience of the division as backup. I know we were down to ten for a long time but only one shot on goal isn’t good enough. The team is carrying too many passengers and I really don’t see us finishing top two this year. A Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Oct 2019, at 15:05, David Smail wrote: > > I agree that his red card yesterday was a terrible decision and the > ref was made to look stupid and gullible. > > > > Sadly though, most of his others have been correct. For all his > dedication and fearlessness, the guy is a hot head, liability and > costs us. He should know that any challenge in that position is inviting a > dive. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the worst sending-off decision I have seen for years. > > > > Talk about giving a dog a bad name. So now Breradi has the highest > number of > > > sendings-off for any one player in the entire EFL, since he made his > debut for > > us.5 years ago. Laughable. > > > > Nick > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
Re: [LU] Millwall highlights
Simon, you clearly state what we all know about the centre back situation. Why can't the manager and the board see it ? Cooper always gets injured, it was just a matter of time and Beradi is not a centre back and always gets sent off. We are totally exposed at the back. On Sunday, 6 October 2019, 15:50:57 BST, Simon McNally wrote: I agree. Too many times we (and Berardi in particular) put the referee in a position where he has to make a decision. It wasn’t a pen and definitely not a red but Berardi’s poor position allowed the striker to run off the back of him. I still don’t understand why we haven’t got more cover at cb. Cooper has never played a full season through injury or suspension or both. He played 37 in the league last year and the most he’s done is 39 4 years ago. You’d think then that we’d have a third recognised cb with some experience of the division as backup. I know we were down to ten for a long time but only one shot on goal isn’t good enough. The team is carrying too many passengers and I really don’t see us finishing top two this year. A Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Oct 2019, at 15:05, David Smail wrote: > > I agree that his red card yesterday was a terrible decision and the ref was > made to look stupid and gullible. > > > > Sadly though, most of his others have been correct. For all his dedication > and fearlessness, the guy is a hot head, liability and costs us. He should > know that any challenge in that position is inviting a dive. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > That was the worst sending-off decision I have seen for years. > > > > Talk about giving a dog a bad name. So now Breradi has the highest number of > > > sendings-off for any one player in the entire EFL, since he made his debut > for > > us.5 years ago. Laughable. > > > > Nick > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
