Re: [LU] The healthy of this list - some musings!
You can mute it mate. I do. I just dip in when I want. I From: Leedslist on behalf of Graham White via Leedslist Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2021 8:43 PM To: Leeds List 2010 ; James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! Subject: Re: [LU] The healthy of this list - some musings! I was on the WhatsApp group for while but had to come off as the sheer volume of messages was drowning out everything else. Cheers Graham White On Thursday, 16 September 2021, 18:08:37 CEST, James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist wrote: The era of the pure e-mailing list is almost gone! I am still on a lot of old-style mailing lists so know better than many. The only one that is going as strong as ever is something called RISKS [ACM FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) - Peter G. Neumann, founder and still moderator]. This very excellent RISKS mailing list has been going since 1989 or 1990 and has its own very dedicated membership etc. We have been on the go since mid-June 1992, which means we are in our 30th year of continuous operation. This is a hugely impressive thing in and of itself. I have almost everything that has been posted on the list during that time, and everything from January 1993, when I first joined myself. At least half the people on this list have been on it for over 25 years or more. We are not unlike RISKS in many ways but it's how we deal with it, will decide whether we continue as we are or not. The new WhatsApp group is great - which I'm trying to archive too - but it should never replace this mailing list. Saying all that, the mailing list is only as good as the people who contribute to it, which really is just two or three people on a consistent basis. Dave N. and Rich W. are keeping it fed almost single-handedly with their regular and consistently insightful & high-quality match reports. The more people who contribute to the list, the healthier it will be. I do see a few problems with the current Leedslist mailing list, one is the fact that it is text-based when time & tide have moved towards a more web-centric world (see below), another is the unknowing but very annoying habit of some posters to reply to (digest) posts including the entire contents of the (digest) posts they are replying to. There is little or nothing that the mailing list administrators [John Betty and myself] can do about that latter annoyance. It has turned a few people off the list but we don't want to go down the road of moderating all contributions etc. Remember, when the mailing list was first set up it was at a different-almost-pre-web time when many of us were not able to go to games, nor to look at them live on telly. The latter is pretty much no longer the case. There are many other e-forums for fans to contribute to than before too: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, WACCOE-like forums, personal blogs etc. We live in an increasingly segmented world where we can consume our media in almost unique ways, this e-mailing list still being an almost-communal experience. We live in a much more "immediate" world than ever before too, which suits the WhatsApp model, while many of us are more reflective, which suits the e-mailing list model. However, for the list to survive, the quantity, but especially the quality, of the contributions must stay high, otherwise, we will continue to die very slowly. Who else is willing to man that gap of keeping the signal-to-noise ratio high? Let's be having ya, Kevin Lewis and your always-excellent musings, or anything else that comes into that weird and wonderful mind of yours, KofT! James. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
[LU] November games switched
3 November games moved, per https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/28769/live-tv-november-broadcast-selections-made : Leicester (H) at 2pm Sun 7th (as they're in Europe) Spurs (A) at 4.30pm Sun 21st (Sky) Brighton (A) at 5.30pm Sat 27th (Sky) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
[LU] Arsenal away in efl cup
See titleSent from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40.. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] The healthy of this list - some musings!
I was on the WhatsApp group for while but had to come off as the sheer volume of messages was drowning out everything else. Cheers Graham White On Thursday, 16 September 2021, 18:08:37 CEST, James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist wrote: The era of the pure e-mailing list is almost gone! I am still on a lot of old-style mailing lists so know better than many. The only one that is going as strong as ever is something called RISKS [ACM FORUM ON RISKS TO THE PUBLIC IN COMPUTERS AND RELATED SYSTEMS (comp.risks) - Peter G. Neumann, founder and still moderator]. This very excellent RISKS mailing list has been going since 1989 or 1990 and has its own very dedicated membership etc. We have been on the go since mid-June 1992, which means we are in our 30th year of continuous operation. This is a hugely impressive thing in and of itself. I have almost everything that has been posted on the list during that time, and everything from January 1993, when I first joined myself. At least half the people on this list have been on it for over 25 years or more. We are not unlike RISKS in many ways but it's how we deal with it, will decide whether we continue as we are or not. The new WhatsApp group is great - which I'm trying to archive too - but it should never replace this mailing list. Saying all that, the mailing list is only as good as the people who contribute to it, which really is just two or three people on a consistent basis. Dave N. and Rich W. are keeping it fed almost single-handedly with their regular and consistently insightful & high-quality match reports. The more people who contribute to the list, the healthier it will be. I do see a few problems with the current Leedslist mailing list, one is the fact that it is text-based when time & tide have moved towards a more web-centric world (see below), another is the unknowing but very annoying habit of some posters to reply to (digest) posts including the entire contents of the (digest) posts they are replying to. There is little or nothing that the mailing list administrators [John Betty and myself] can do about that latter annoyance. It has turned a few people off the list but we don't want to go down the road of moderating all contributions etc. Remember, when the mailing list was first set up it was at a different-almost-pre-web time when many of us were not able to go to games, nor to look at them live on telly. The latter is pretty much no longer the case. There are many other e-forums for fans to contribute to than before too: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, WACCOE-like forums, personal blogs etc. We live in an increasingly segmented world where we can consume our media in almost unique ways, this e-mailing list still being an almost-communal experience. We live in a much more "immediate" world than ever before too, which suits the WhatsApp model, while many of us are more reflective, which suits the e-mailing list model. However, for the list to survive, the quantity, but especially the quality, of the contributions must stay high, otherwise, we will continue to die very slowly. Who else is willing to man that gap of keeping the signal-to-noise ratio high? Let's be having ya, Kevin Lewis and your always-excellent musings, or anything else that comes into that weird and wonderful mind of yours, KofT! James. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Fulham from the arm chair
Firpo has got a bit of the Didier Domi's about him - in that he keeps popping up in places (centre mid, right wing) where you dont expect him to. I think he'll be ok, between an injury / COVID and the team constantly changing around him, he's not really had a consistent run. Cresswell was the main bonus yesterday. Gelhardt got muscled out of it a bit. Was amused by the Fulham fan near us (in Fulham end) who complained to a steward about a couple Leeds fans being in the wrong place at the start of the game, who gradually realised there were a lot of Leeds fans in that bit and decided to keep quiet thereafter. Matt -- Original Message -- From: "Richard Walker via Leedslist" To: "leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org)" Sent: Wednesday, 22 Sep, 21 At 09:26 Subject: [LU] Fulham from the arm chair Scores: Firpo - 4. I've give a full mark for his pen which was out of this world but overall his defending was non existant and when he did get forward his final ball was hopeless. He looks a bit fitter and he's certainly looks the part but he's yet to deliver ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
[LU] Fulham from the arm chair
Great to see the young lads keep their nerve in the penalty shoot out especially when our old guard lost theirs (Dallas, Forshaw). I thought the first 45 mins were decent and I enjoyed watching us try to break fast and create chances. Fulham had a few chances but on the whole Cresswell and Philips kept them at bay. I was hoping to see us push on in the 2nd half but we didn't and to be honest I think that's one of the few times I've seen a Bielsa team struggle to get the ball from defence to attack. I've never seen so many aimless long balls played by a Bielsa team because there was no midfield. Poor Cresswell was left with the ball at the back with no options time and time again. Why it wasn't given to Philips, our Glen Hoddle, nobody knows ? I think the players who don't play often ran out of steam (Shack, Summerville) and our established team players didn't produce. I was particularly disapointed with Klich, Dallas and Firpo who yet again had another stinker. Glad that Bielsa called it out as a poor performance overall and to be honest we were lucky to get through BUT we did and Wemb-er-ley here we come. Scores: Miesler - 7. Won us the game with the penalty save but I thought he went way too early on most of the pens. Spilled a shot first half but overall did ok. Dallas - 3. Missed pen and really didn't figure in the match. Got a knock but he has started slowly in this campaign and I'm hoping he can return to the form of last season. Firpo - 4. I've give a full mark for his pen which was out of this world but overall his defending was non existant and when he did get forward his final ball was hopeless. He looks a bit fitter and he's certainly looks the part but he's yet to deliver Cresswell - 7. Tough game for the las but he came through it and out of all the youngsters I think he deserves the most credit. He did all the defending and was asked time and time again to distribute the ball. Yes there were one or two moments but he looks promising. I wouldn't start him against the Hammers though. Philips - 5. Don't like him at Centre back cos he's not. I thought he did ok first half but 2nd half he looked a tad lost and his long ball passing all night was poor. Shackleton - 5. Huffed and puffed, ran around but didn't influence the game from the centre of the park and probably answered the question of why he isn't in the team more often from the start. Klich - 3. Really poor. In a game like this you expect him to be one of our key men but the fact he wasn't along with Dallas probably explains why we struggled. James - 5. One or two good runs / moves but overall ineffective. Summerville - 5. Similar to James and there's no doubt that on the ball he looks dynamic but as a team player he is nothing at the moment. His link up play and awareness of his team mates is totally lacking. This lad has ability but he's got a long way to go. I could see him being a last 10 min sub for a while yet. Rodrigo - 6. The highlight of the whole match for me was seeing Rodrigo sprint up and down the pitch showing that he is getting fit and is actually quite quick when he gets moving. Yes not everything came off (actually most didn't) but he's got the ability and if matched to a decent level of fitness maybe he is about to deliver ? Roberts - 4. This was his chance but apart from a couple of blocked shots and a half chance he didn't and that's the story of Robert's Leeds career. A lot of given up on him, I haven't but he needs to grab his chances. Subs: Gelhardt - did he touch the ball ? we played a load of high balls to him and he's 4ft 10. Waste of a debut but he put his pen away so nobody can ask for anymore than that Mckinsay - I liked the look of this lad and he put his pen away Forshaw - I haven't played competitive football for 10 years since a knee op but I suspect if I came back against West Ham on Saturday I'd play in a similar fashion to what Forshaw did last night. Slow, steady, unispiring, ineffective and if they asked me to take a pen I'd probably blast it over the bar. He doesn't look anywhere near ready to me on that showing. On to the Hammers ... ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
Re: [LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights
I'm not sure I've ever seen highlights that didn't show a single, normal-time chance for one of the teams before? We did have chances, right? I mean, I watched the game - I didn't dream Rodrigo missing those efforts did I? Nigel (the Dublin one) -Original Message- From: Leedslist On Behalf Of john Sent: 22 September 2021 08:42 To: leedslist Subject: [LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights Hopefully everyone can see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJu9CbnwNxcSent from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40.. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
[LU] Fulham vs Leeds Highlights
Hopefully everyone can see this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJu9CbnwNxcSent from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40.. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
