[LU] Coventry

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing together 
 la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough semi-final. Rubbish 
song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the cheek to sing "Leeds is a 
shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and think of Ghost Town.
To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland, they 
came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that moved which 
they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't look in shape 
and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time again they 
hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think this is the way to 
play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and then get us on the counter, 
which is what happened. 
First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good positions but 
poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as usual and 
when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's either world class or 
a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very frustrating. Most of our 
best work was down the left with Spence and Summerville but  when we did manage 
to work our way  into the box the last pass or cross was lacking. At the other 
end Coventry did have numerous counters and their tricky right winger skinned 
Spence to create a good chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot 
outside the box. They were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's 
far too to pass and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the 
downside to playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is 
never a midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most 
of the time without the ball he's a passenger.
I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper midfielders) in 
some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to right 
back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's solid , can 
defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back in this league.
Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is great 
to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no way he's a 
number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting them up. He's 
a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times looks like he's on 
cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he does have great 
awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to play as a 10 or a winger 
but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's 2nd half goal was 
fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's 
coming on and looking like he's never played as he loses possession and the 
ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too hard but watch the runs he makes. 
He's totally not tuned into his team mates though so he looks a bit stupid but 
given a run I have no doubt he will score in most matches. He might not get the 
chance to prove me right though.
Second half, I thought we played well and on another day maybe this is a 3-1 , 
4-1 result but our finishing was poor and because of that we only got the 
point. Their goal was awful. Their centre half decided to go for a wander into 
the box. Their tricky  right winger floated over a decent cross and we just 
couldn't deal with it. Was it Archie of Rodon ? Whoever it was should have done 
better. Poor defending. If it was Rodon, it was probably his only mistake 
because he did really well against a really tricky, pacey and strong forward 
(Simms).
The game started to get tetchy and ref started booking everyone which was 
totally at odds to his first half approach. It threatened to boil over and 
Summervile looked like he lost his head at the final whistle. He was on a 
yellow so very stupid. Luckily he didn't get a red.
Scores:
Meslier - 7. I need to see the goal again but if he wasn't at fault then he 
really didn't have much to do. 
Spence - 7. I like the look of Spence. He's tall, pacey, skillfull and strong. 
Yes he got skinned by the tricky winger but I think that lad could do that to 
anyone. He needs to play in his proper position though. I think if he can keep 
injury free he will be a great right back.
Gray - 7. I love Archie Gray, such a majestic footballer but unfortunately 
another player playing out of position. Get him in midfield.
Rodon - 7. Solid, strong defending throughout. If it was him who went up for 
the header for the goal then I'll give him a 6 cos that was a big moment. 
Struijk - 7. I thought he did well and pushed forward when he can. He's 
impressed me this season. I was never a fan and he was obviously not good 
enough in the PL but he's found is level and is operating well. 
Kamara - 7. Worked hard and kept us ticking along. I think he struggles when 
he's on the back foot and him and Ampadu really struggle at times when teams 
counter us. 
Ampedu - 7. Some rea

[LU] Coventry

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

Well a disappointing end to a disappointing week.Ipswich v Norwich was on in 
the pub pre game, and although not paying much attention, Ipswich looked really 
good and should have won easily, but the result was a real chance for us.  Win 
today and beat them next week and suddenly the gap is 5 points or 2 games.  
This was our chance to put pressure on and we blew it.They came for a point 
with very little attacking intent - they did not have a single corner all game 
- reflective of how little possession they had in our half - but we failed to 
capitalise 
They had the nearest to a goal first half when an early snap shot had Meslier 
at full stretch to keep it out.We had most of the ball but very little end 
product.  I know and understand Farkes thinking as regards Piroe at 10 and 
Georginio at 9 but i still think it quite often does not work. Piroe is a goal 
scorer and Georginio isn't.  Simple as that - piroe had no shots or chances - 
georginio missed 5 overall -2 in the first half which went wide - you’ve got to 
hit the target , 2 easy saves for the keeper and one into the side netting 2nd 
half Summerville took his goal well - James missed an easy chance to win it at 
the end 
Not great 
( had to cut this short )
Dave 
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Re: [LU] Coventry

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

Mostly agree, especially that song.

I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either. It’s a 
high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard box. I’d think 
the keeper should be claiming that.
I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2) goalkeeper


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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard Walker via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
Subject: [LU] Coventry

I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing together 
 la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough semi-final. Rubbish 
song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the cheek to sing "Leeds is a 
shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and think of Ghost Town.
To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland, they 
came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that moved which 
they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't look in shape 
and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time again they 
hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think this is the way to 
play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and then get us on the counter, 
which is what happened.
First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good positions but 
poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as usual and 
when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's either world class or 
a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very frustrating. Most of our 
best work was down the left with Spence and Summerville but  when we did manage 
to work our way  into the box the last pass or cross was lacking. At the other 
end Coventry did have numerous counters and their tricky right winger skinned 
Spence to create a good chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot 
outside the box. They were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's 
far too to pass and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the 
downside to playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is 
never a midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most 
of the time without the ball he's a passenger.
I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper midfielders) in 
some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to right 
back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's solid , can 
defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back in this league.
Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is great 
to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no way he's a 
number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting them up. He's 
a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times looks like he's on 
cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he does have great 
awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to play as a 10 or a winger 
but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's 2nd half goal was 
fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's 
coming on and looking like he's never played as he loses possession and the 
ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too hard but watch the runs he makes. 
He's totally not tuned into his team mates though so he looks a bit stupid but 
given a run I have no doubt he will score in most matches. He might not get the 
chance to prove me right though.
Second half, I thought we played well and on another day maybe this is a 3-1 , 
4-1 result but our finishing was poor and because of that we only got the 
point. Their goal was awful. Their centre half decided to go for a wander into 
the box. Their tricky  right winger floated over a decent cross and we just 
couldn't deal with it. Was it Archie of Rodon ? Whoever it was should have done 
better. Poor defending. If it was Rodon, it was probably his only mistake 
because he did really well against a really tricky, pacey and strong forward 
(Simms).
The game started to get tetchy and ref started booking everyone which was 
totally at odds to his first half approach. It threatened to boil over and 
Summervile looked like he lost his head at the final whistle. He was on a 
yellow so very stupid. Luckily he didn't get a red.
Scores:
Meslier - 7. I need to see the goal again but if he wasn't at fault then he 
really didn't have much to do.
Spence - 7. I like the look of Spence. He's tall, pacey, skillfull and strong. 
Yes he got skinned by the tricky winger but I think that lad could do that to 
anyone. He needs to play in his proper position though. I think if he can keep 
injury free he will be a great right back.
Gray - 7. I

Re: [LU] Coventry

[Robert Heath]

Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their pathetic
"warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> Mostly agree, especially that song.
>
> I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
> Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
> It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard box.
> I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
> I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
> Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2) goalkeeper
>
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
> Walker via Leedslist 
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> Subject: [LU] Coventry
>
> I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
> together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
> semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the cheek
> to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and think of
> Ghost Town.
> To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
> they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that moved
> which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't look
> in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
> again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
> this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and then
> get us on the counter, which is what happened.
> First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good positions
> but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
> usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's either
> world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
> frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
> Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the last
> pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
> counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
> chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box. They
> were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
> and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
> playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is never a
> midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most of
> the time without the ball he's a passenger.
> I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper midfielders)
> in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
> right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
> solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back in
> this league.
> Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
> great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no way
> he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting
> them up. He's a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times looks
> like he's on cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he
> does have great awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to play
> as a 10 or a winger but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's
> 2nd half goal was fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play
> Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's coming on and looking like he's never played as
> he loses possession and the ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too hard
> but watch the runs he makes. He's totally not tuned into his team mates
> though so he looks a bit stupid but given a run I have no doubt he will
> score in most matches. He might not get the chance to prove me right though.
> Second half, I thought we played well and on another day maybe this is a
> 3-1 , 4-1 result but our finishing was poor and because of that we only got
> the point. Their goal was awful. Their centre half decided to go for a
> wander into the box. Their tricky  right winger floated over a decent cross
> and we just couldn't deal with it. Was it Archie of Rodon ? Whoever it was
> should have done better. Poor defending. If it was Rodon, it was probably
> his only mistake because he did really well against a really tricky, pacey
> and strong forward (Simms).
> The game started to get tetchy and ref started booking everyone which was
> totally at odds to his first half approach. It threatened to boil over and
> Summervile looked like he lost his head at the final whistle. He was on a
> yellow so very stupid. Luckily he didn't get a red.
> Scores:
> Meslier 

Re: [LU] Coventry

[Scott1cairns1]

 It’s a vote of no confidence in meslier for me. 
Best regards,Scott. 

> On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:59, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their pathetic
> "warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
> linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Mostly agree, especially that song.
>> 
>> I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
>> Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
>> It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard box.
>> I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
>> I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
>> Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2) goalkeeper
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Outlook for iOS
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
>> Walker via Leedslist 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
>> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
>> Subject: [LU] Coventry
>> 
>> I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
>> together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
>> semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the cheek
>> to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and think of
>> Ghost Town.
>> To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
>> they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that moved
>> which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't look
>> in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
>> again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
>> this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and then
>> get us on the counter, which is what happened.
>> First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good positions
>> but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
>> usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's either
>> world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
>> frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
>> Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the last
>> pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
>> counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
>> chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box. They
>> were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
>> and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
>> playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is never a
>> midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most of
>> the time without the ball he's a passenger.
>> I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper midfielders)
>> in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
>> right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
>> solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back in
>> this league.
>> Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
>> great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no way
>> he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting
>> them up. He's a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times looks
>> like he's on cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he
>> does have great awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to play
>> as a 10 or a winger but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's
>> 2nd half goal was fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play
>> Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's coming on and looking like he's never played as
>> he loses possession and the ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too hard
>> but watch the runs he makes. He's totally not tuned into his team mates
>> though so he looks a bit stupid but given a run I have no doubt he will
>> score in most matches. He might not get the chance to prove me right though.
>> Second half, I thought we played well and on another day maybe this is a
>> 3-1 , 4-1 result but our finishing was poor and because of that we only got
>> the point. Their goal was awful. Their centre half decided to go for a
>> wander into the box. Their tricky  right winger floated over a decent cross
>> and we just couldn't deal with it. Was it Archie of Rodon ? Whoever it was
>> should have done better. Poor defending. If it was Rodon, it was probably
>> his only mistake because he did really well against a really tricky, pacey
>> and strong forward (Simms).
>> The game started to get tetchy and ref started booking everyone which was
>> totally

Re: [LU] Coventry

[Paul Cundell]

Let's not blame the goalkeeper because Rutter and Cree missed more chances
in one half than Bamford has missed all season and conveniently forget
Mesliers first half save that in the end preserved our unbeaten home
record.
There's two defenders on the attacker but the keeper should've come for it?
Why? So you could have blamed him for not leaving it to the defenders?
Let's not look for scapegoats when the fault clearly lies with us failing
to convert our chances.


On Sun, 17 Dec 2023, 17:38 Scott1cairns1,  wrote:

>  It’s a vote of no confidence in meslier for me.
> Best regards,Scott.
>
> > On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:59, Robert Heath  wrote:
> >
> > Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their
> pathetic
> > "warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
> > linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!
> >
> >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
> >> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mostly agree, especially that song.
> >>
> >> I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
> >> Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
> >> It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard
> box.
> >> I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
> >> I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
> >> Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2)
> goalkeeper
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> >> 
> >> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
> >> Walker via Leedslist 
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
> >> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> >> Subject: [LU] Coventry
> >>
> >> I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
> >> together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
> >> semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the
> cheek
> >> to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and
> think of
> >> Ghost Town.
> >> To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
> >> they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that
> moved
> >> which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't
> look
> >> in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
> >> again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
> >> this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and
> then
> >> get us on the counter, which is what happened.
> >> First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good
> positions
> >> but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
> >> usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's
> either
> >> world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
> >> frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
> >> Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the
> last
> >> pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
> >> counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
> >> chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box.
> They
> >> were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
> >> and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
> >> playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is
> never a
> >> midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most
> of
> >> the time without the ball he's a passenger.
> >> I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper
> midfielders)
> >> in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
> >> right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
> >> solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back
> in
> >> this league.
> >> Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
> >> great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no
> way
> >> he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting
> >> them up. He's a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times
> looks
> >> like he's on cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he
> >> does have great awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to
> play
> >> as a 10 or a winger but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's
> >> 2nd half goal was fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play
> >> Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's coming on and looking like he's never played
> as
> >> he loses possession and the ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too
> hard
> >> but watch the runs he makes. He's totally not tuned into his team mates
> >> though so he looks a bit stupid but given a run I have no doubt he will
> >> score in most matches. He might not

Re: [LU] Coventry

[n...@6haroldplace.co.uk]

Exactly, Paul.

Oh, and Dan James’ sitter at the end…

Nick


Sent from my iPad

> On 17 Dec 2023, at 20:29, Paul Cundell  wrote:
> 
> Let's not blame the goalkeeper because Rutter and Cree missed more chances
> in one half than Bamford has missed all season and conveniently forget
> Mesliers first half save that in the end preserved our unbeaten home
> record.
> There's two defenders on the attacker but the keeper should've come for it?
> Why? So you could have blamed him for not leaving it to the defenders?
> Let's not look for scapegoats when the fault clearly lies with us failing
> to convert our chances.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2023, 17:38 Scott1cairns1,  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a vote of no confidence in meslier for me.
>> Best regards,Scott.
>> 
 On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:59, Robert Heath  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their
>> pathetic
>>> "warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
>>> linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!
>>> 
 On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
 leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
 
 Mostly agree, especially that song.
 
 I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
 Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
 It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard
>> box.
 I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
 I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
 Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2)
>> goalkeeper
 
 
 Sent from Outlook for iOS
 
 From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
 Walker via Leedslist 
 Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
 To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
 Subject: [LU] Coventry
 
 I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
 together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
 semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the
>> cheek
 to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and
>> think of
 Ghost Town.
 To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
 they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that
>> moved
 which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't
>> look
 in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
 again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
 this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and
>> then
 get us on the counter, which is what happened.
 First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good
>> positions
 but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
 usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's
>> either
 world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
 frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
 Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the
>> last
 pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
 counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
 chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box.
>> They
 were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
 and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
 playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is
>> never a
 midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most
>> of
 the time without the ball he's a passenger.
 I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper
>> midfielders)
 in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
 right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
 solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back
>> in
 this league.
 Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
 great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no
>> way
 he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after brilliantly setting
 them up. He's a great passer of the ball and for someone who at times
>> looks
 like he's on cloud 9 (he doesn't watch the offside line for instance) he
 does have great awareness. If he's gonna play I think he is the one to
>> play
 as a 10 or a winger but NOT as a no 9. Rutter's assist for Summerville's
 2nd half goal was fantastic.Maybe an unopular view, but I would play
 Bamford at no 9. Ok, he's coming on and looking like he's never played
>> as
 he loses possession and the ball bobbles of his shin. He's trying too
>> hard
>

Re: [LU] Coventry

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Spot on Paul - so many missed chances, game after game - whilst Meslier isn’t 
the finished article (his near-post right hand side reactions are iffy), we 
should be comfortable in games like this given the number of chances?

Hoping at some point Gray will be back in the middle, and that Bamford will get 
a proper run of games - I still think he’ll play a key part this season. 



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> On 17 Dec 2023, at 20:40, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
> 
> 
> Exactly, Paul.
> 
> Oh, and Dan James’ sitter at the end…
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 17 Dec 2023, at 20:29, Paul Cundell  wrote:
>> 
>> Let's not blame the goalkeeper because Rutter and Cree missed more chances
>> in one half than Bamford has missed all season and conveniently forget
>> Mesliers first half save that in the end preserved our unbeaten home
>> record.
>> There's two defenders on the attacker but the keeper should've come for it?
>> Why? So you could have blamed him for not leaving it to the defenders?
>> Let's not look for scapegoats when the fault clearly lies with us failing
>> to convert our chances.
>> 
>> 
 On Sun, 17 Dec 2023, 17:38 Scott1cairns1,  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s a vote of no confidence in meslier for me.
>>> Best regards,Scott.
>>> 
> On 17 Dec 2023, at 12:59, Robert Heath  wrote:
 
 Dead right about the ref. I noticed when the res were doing their
>>> pathetic
 "warmup" that he was out of breath and struggling to keep up with his
 linesmen after simply jogging a lap of half the pitch!
 
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:23 AM Simon McNally via Leedslist <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Mostly agree, especially that song.
> 
> I think it was Struijk that loses the header for the goal.
> Having watched it back, I’m not convinced by Meslier on the goal either.
> It’s a high, looping cross that is headed in from within the six yard
>>> box.
> I’d think the keeper should be claiming that.
> I thought he could’ve done better with the Sunderland goal too.
> Shopping list for January for me would be : 1) left back and 2)
>>> goalkeeper
> 
> 
> Sent from Outlook for iOS
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Richard
> Walker via Leedslist 
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 10:28:25 AM
> To: leeds list (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> Subject: [LU] Coventry
> 
> I'd forgotten that God awful song that they sing  'We all sing
> together  la la la' - took me right back to the Hillsborough
> semi-final. Rubbish song, rubbish city, rubbish fans and they had the
>>> cheek
> to sing "Leeds is a shithole I want to go home". Made me laugh and
>>> think of
> Ghost Town.
> To be fair to their team I thought they were ok. A bit like Sunderland,
> they came with damage limitation in mind and to kick everything that
>>> moved
> which they got away with due to a really, really poor ref. He didn't
>>> look
> in shape and his brain was obviously running slow because time and time
> again they hacked at our players and he didn't take any action. I think
> this is the way to play us, be solid, get everyone behind the ball and
>>> then
> get us on the counter, which is what happened.
> First half I thought we huffed and puffed and got into some good
>>> positions
> but poor finishing cost us. Rutter spent most of the half on his arse as
> usual and when he did get a chance he fluffed it. My mate said he's
>>> either
> world class or a spastic. He was a spastic in that first half. Very
> frustrating. Most of our best work was down the left with Spence and
> Summerville but  when we did manage to work our way  into the box the
>>> last
> pass or cross was lacking. At the other end Coventry did have numerous
> counters and their tricky right winger skinned Spence to create a good
> chance. Meslier also made a decent save from a shot outside the box.
>>> They
> were dangerous on the counter and I think as a team it's far too to pass
> and progress through our midfield. This is obviously the downside to
> playing 4 attackers with one of them (Piroe) in midfield. Piroe is
>>> never a
> midfielder, not even close. Yes he's tidy on the ball at times but most
>>> of
> the time without the ball he's a passenger.
> I think we need to look at playing with 3 midfielder (proper
>>> midfielders)
> in some games especially away from home. New left back in Jan, spence to
> right back , Archie into midfield. Bidwell for them must be 30+ but he's
> solid , can defend and get forward. That's all we need from a left back
>>> in
> this league.
> Then there's the argument about who to play up front ? For me, Rutter is
> great to watch (the world class version not the spastic) but there's no
>>> way
> he's a number 9. He misses chance after chance after b