Re: [LU] Thirkers

[Steve Gillen]

Having was somewhat unwilling relationship with hospitals this year) and more 
to come I can empathise with him. Please, if it's possible, pass on my very 
best wishes for a   swift recovery and getting back home again soon. Good luck 
Thirkers, were right behind you mate...

Steve G

> On 5 Nov 2024, at 17:20, Richard Naef  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Verner, It’s the nurses I feel sorry for
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Errand Fivefold 
> Sent: 05 November 2024 17:19
> To: Richard Naef ; leeds list 
> (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Thirkers
> 
> Hi Rich,
> 
> Oxygen levels returning towards normal, so good sign.
> Fingers crossed the old Badger will be back in Springfield Farm annoying the 
> wildlife again.
> 
> Verner
> 
> 
>-- Original Message --
>From: rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
>To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>Sent: Tuesday, November 5th 2024, 17:10
>Subject: [LU] Thirkers
> 
> 
>  Hi All,
> 
>  Thirkers is in hospital at the moment.  He's got pneumonia, a chest 
> infection and hurt his hip, was miserable at the weekend (even after the
> win) but he sounds a bit better now, so hope he is on the mend.
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] England match in Leeds

[Steve Gillen]

I'm surprised, I would have thought that almost  every pub in England with a TV 
would have been showing the game? 

> On 13 Jul 2024, at 22:15, Damian WALSH  wrote:
> 
> Panic over, the Roundhay is showing it and there shouldn't be a problem to
> get in.
> 
>> Le sam. 13 juil. 2024 à 13:27, John Boocock  a écrit :
>> 
>> Damian,
>> 
>> Where in Leeds are you?
>> 
>> Betty
>> 
>>> On 13/07/2024 11:50, Damian WALSH wrote:
>>> I'm in Leeds this weekend only to find that my daughter (who I'm staying
>>> with) doesn't have a television. None of the pubs near her flat seem to
>> be
>>> showing the match either.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? BTW, at my time of life, a pub half
>> full
>>> of bearded, pipe smoking retirees wearing arran jumpers would be ideal 🙂
>>> 
>>> Damian
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Re: [LU] Wembley a question

[Steve Gillen]

Try getting into the disabled accessible toilets if you happen to have left 
your radar key on the bus. Thankfully paramedics at hand were happy to open 
the door for me 

> On 30 May 2024, at 11:20, Jon Abbott  wrote:
> 
> Short answer is that they were built that way to allow them to reallocate 
> depending on the event. For most (men's footy etc) events it's 70/30 to 
> reflect the expected crowd but was reversed for the Women's FA Cup Final 
> (recall seeing a story complaining about lack of sanitary bins after 
> that...). For concerts etc (Taylor Swift coming up) expect to see 50/50 or 
> similar depending on what they expect.
> 
> jabba
> 
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of nattan--- via 
> Leedslist 
> Sent: 30 May 2024 11:13
> To: leeds list 
> Subject: [LU] Wembley a question
> 
> Bit if an odd one, but when i went to the toilets at half time , i walked 
> into the gents to be faced with a row of stalls with blokes waiting, i walked 
> past 2 more rows of stalls and suddenly was outside without seeing any 
> urinals.I walked to next toilet block wondering if blokes had just gate 
> crashed the womens.The next toilets were the same so i used the stalls
> So the question is has Wembley for whatever reason only put stalls and no 
> urinals in the mens , or did they ' convert ' the womens into gents on the 
> day given the proportion of males v females at football compared to a concert 
> etc
> 
> Just seemed odd
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Ticket?

[Steve Gillen]

I think we all know you tried Richard and it was a great idea, but as always 
has been with the national stadium teal fans come second to what the stadium 
owners can get. Wembley has more than 10,000 tickets of one type or another to 
disperse as they wish

I want to know if Rishi Sunak will pay for his seat (and his accompanying 
security staff) as he is not an indifferent neutral but a stated passionate fan 
of one of the clubs - and he's only a multimillionaire not a Billionaire (yet) 
so has to save money somehow 

> On 23 May 2024, at 09:31, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, boxes sold out to wembley before we got a chance.  Tickets on 
> StubHub.ie, but stupidly expensive
> 
> Richard
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of Robert Heath 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 4:44:30 PM
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] Ticket?
> 
> Did anything come of that box idea...and if so could you take one
> more person?OR, does anybody perchance have a ticket going
> spare?
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Re: [LU] Whatsapp Group

[Steve Gillen]

Traffic on the group is normally fine with obvious spikes on match days, but 
since the semi final win messages have understandably gone through the roof - 
mostly from me begging for transport to Wembley or a ticket now that the exec 
box may not happen Welcome back👍

> On 19 May 2024, at 12:26, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Eh……
> Nick
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024, 7:18 AM, Graham White via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I joined the WA group back when it was first set up, but had to come off 
> because of the volume of messages.  What´s the traffic like now?  Has it 
> settled down a bit?  Would like to go back on if it´s not going to swamp my 
> phone!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Graham White
> 
> Mobile (Spain): (0034) 628 13 82 47
> On Saturday, 18 May 2024 at 15:28:42 CEST, Richard Naef 
>  wrote: 
> 
> OK, I can add people, so just email your mobile nr and I'll do the necessary.
> 
> Sent from Outlook for Android
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 2:07:41 PM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: [LU] Whatsapp Group
> 
> Can someone who understands the dark arts of Whatsapp please post the
> joining details here on the list as a number of listers would like to
> join in your jolly banter (ie not me guv!)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Betty (Listowningly)
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Re: [LU] Whatsapp Group

[Steve Gillen]

I think our Oystein has the rights to invite -not entirely sure but if not 
he'll know how.

> On 18 May 2024, at 14:28, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I can add people, so just email your mobile nr and I'll do the necessary.
> 
> Sent from Outlook for Android
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 2:07:41 PM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: [LU] Whatsapp Group
> 
> Can someone who understands the dark arts of Whatsapp please post the
> joining details here on the list as a number of listers would like to
> join in your jolly banter (ie not me guv!)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Betty (Listowningly)
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Re: [LU] 32 years ago today...

[Steve Gillen]

I rember that game well... I was there. After the game we were all more 
concerned about getting back to see the Liverpool v red filth game to decide if 
we really were champions or not - of course we were But it was a shame we 
all scattered instead of being together and enjoying the results as a 
group/crowd.

Great day though...

> On 26 Apr 2024, at 10:06, James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> I well remember this day 32 years ago.
> Leeds United went to Sheffield United on the morning of Sunday, 26 April 1992 
> and ultimately won the league in an extraordinary game. The winning goal's 
> last three touches were the home team's, such was the chaotic nature of the 
> contest. No Leeds United player touched the ball in our attacking half in its 
> build-up. 
> 
> Extended highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjWzXdPO9uE) of the game 
> exist on YouTube for those who are sufficiently interested. Jon Newsome wrote 
> himself into the annals of the club's history with his stooped goal to put us 
> back on level terms in a see-saw game. Our first goal was also an OG. Upon 
> recent review of the game, I thought it quite an entertaining contest. Such 
> wonderful times but we also knew that we might never see these days again.
> The game was on BBC or ITV but I was down with my prospective in-laws that 
> morning and couldn't catch the game anywhere.  I was able to tune into 
> BBC5Live (formerly BBC2) radio and catch updates - reception was usually poor 
> in a standard car radio of the time.  I recall exactly where I was when the 
> winning goal went in, or when I heard about it, passing the old dump outside 
> the town of Kilrush in West Clare.
> A time before pervasive mobile phone, always-on internet and wall-to-wall Sky 
> coverage was just starting out - I think one Leeds game was shown on the 
> B(Sky)B platform that season.
> Manchester United went to Liverpool later that afternoon and lost 2-0. This 
> meant that Leeds United were now four points ahead of their deadliest rivals 
> with a single game to go. CHAMPIONS.
> I was offered a trip over for the last game of the season against Norwich 
> where the championship trophy would be presented to the team and crowd, 
> Saturday, 2 May 1992. The offer was made in the week leading up to the 
> Sheffield United game. I declined the opportunity, much to my subsequent 
> chagrin. The person who offered me the trip finished up in Howard Wilkinson's 
> office that evening and got a picture of himself with the trophy.
> HW remains the last English-born manager to lead a team to the top-tier 
> football championship in England.
> James.
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Re: [LU] Sunderland

[Steve Gillen]

"We don’t have to finish above both Ipswich and Leicester, just one of them 
will do."

Which is what I've been saying for weeks. We Need to be in first position 
otherwise we become the sole target. To get promoted tgey only have to achieve 
second place. First would  be great but second still gets promoted. Our current 
second position with both our rival above and below having games in hand (yes I 
know games are not points) makes us a prime target for (at this moment Ipswich).

I'm pleased we are where we are, but it is a dangerously precarious place to be.

Steve

> On 10 Apr 2024, at 08:43, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> I decided against commenting immediately Nick, because it was a pretty 
> under-whelming display. Like you, I think the players look knackered, and 
> have just lost their mojo. Summerville & Rutter have had some really 
> ineffective moments, and I can’t deny how frustrating their constant losing 
> the ball gets? I thought Ampadu and Rodon looked jiggered too last night. I 
> actually thought Bamford looked pretty sprightly last night, despite that 
> Pike-lookalikey clattering him repeatedly. Of course he never really looked 
> like scoring though - I was willing him to get a couple, but aside from a 
> rubbish shot he didn’t get much of a sniff. I don’t see him being a Leeds 
> player next season, so really hope he can go out on something of a high and 
> bag a couple soon.
> 
> I thought we played so conservatively in the 1st Half by design - avoiding 
> expending energy and not getting injuries so knock it around at the back and 
> hope for a lucky break, which didn’t come. Second half we tried, but to give 
> Scumderland credit, they defended well, and aided by a partially-sighted ref 
> , they got what they came for?
> 
> That point might be crucial at the end of the season though, so on we go.
> 
> I will make the point that hitting an average run of form if the play-offs 
> are where we’re heading doesn’t fill me with confidence. It’s been a great 
> season so far though - just hoping the players get some rest and put 
> Blackburn away on Satdi!
> 
> MOT
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 10 Apr 2024, at 07:54, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Notable lack of comments on here since Saturday.
>> 
>> Ampadu - Meslier - Rodon
>> 
>> My foremost impression from last night was how tired everyone in the 
>> starting outfield 10 looked. With the exception of Gruev, and possibly Gray, 
>> they were listless, not just physically less sharp - slower to the loose 
>> ball, less running into space, slower to close down, less movement for the 
>> guy with ball - but we seemed mentally off it as well. All the things people 
>> tried didn’t come off. It doesn’t make them bad players all of a sudden.
>> 
>> Ampadu - Rodon - Meslier - Rodon - Ampadu
>> 
>> A combined total of 4 shots on goal, is poor by anyone’s reckoning.
>> 
>> Meslier - Rodon - Meslier - Ampadu
>> 
>> Unbelievably though, for a team moving up to second with four games to go, 
>> there were scattered boos in the Kop at the final whistle.
>> 
>> We don’t have to finish above both Ipswich and Leicester, just one of them 
>> will do.
>> 
>> Meslier - Rodon - Ampadu - Rodon
>> 
>> Onto Saturday then. We can still do this.
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Fck

[Steve Gillen]

sadly, I heartily agree Damian. Not only the fact that names we saw as the same 
generation and similar infringing, but the fact that at one time, and not that 
long ago, we might have said that at 75, at least he had a decent "innings" - 
now, we look horrified and say "but he was "Only" 75"! - Stan Bowles RIP

> On 25 Feb 2024, at 00:10, Damian WALSH  wrote:
> 
> Stan Bowles is dead!
> 
> I'm very sorry for him, but me me me me my generation is almost all gone  :0
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Re: [LU] Mastermind

[Steve Gillen]

I'd be up for a list meet again.. Apart from a few whom I met years ago in 
the Adephi and (can't recall the name) that pub in Holbeck on the way to the 
ground (met Thirkers there as I recall); plus the Worldnet games at Otley road.

I'd really like to see and meet some of you guys again

Steve G

> On 10 Jan 2024, at 09:35, Damian WALSH  wrote:
> 
> Great to hear from you Gav - makes me think that it's time for a GrandChild
> Of All List Meets very soon.
> 
> As for the career - tell 'em that the Methodists are offering you Luncheon
> Vouchers :)
> 
> Damian
> 
>> Le mar. 9 janv. 2024 à 23:52, Gav Burnage  a
>> écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> Bishop?! Not much danger of the dreaded purple shirt anytime soon. I still
>> have a couple of vax.ox.ac.uk shirts, however, including one in its
>> original wrapper! Might go for an ebay auction.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Mastermind

[Steve Gillen]

Can't torgiveanyone who claims to be a fan and described our most famous past 
stand as "the potting shed"

> On 9 Jan 2024, at 12:52, Dave Tomlinson  wrote:
> 
> I would - see http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/matches/19740810.htm
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 at 12:50, nattan--- via Leedslist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just seen a lad had leeds united as his specialist subject on mastermind
>> last night.I downloaded it and tested myself just now , i got 9 out of the
>> 12 , ( he only got 8 - obviously -  otherwise i would not have posted)
>> 
>> Could have got 11 since i did know 2 of the 3 i missed out on
>> Doubt anyone would get the other one ..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Question was ...Who was the ref in 1974 charity shield who sent off
>> Bremner and keegan ? .
>> 
>> Answer is ->>>Bob Matthewson
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Fwd: VPN

[Steve Gillen]

I use express VPN on all mine and Paulas devices as well as on my Nvidia 
streaming box for er.. Other TV availabilities 😉

Works fine and easy

> On 4 Jan 2024, at 23:15, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> I use NordVPN and have been fine with it.
> Nick
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024, 3:20 PM, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> Ha ha, I always remember a guy from HIDB saying it means 'I still don't know' 
> when asked what ISDN was for
> 
> On 4 January 2024 18:18:47 GMT, Andy Clayton wrote:
> 
> Just to make everyone feel really old, ISDN is being phased out...
> 
> 
> Mind you, Openreach think they'll have an IP network by the end of 2025, so I 
> wouldn't be so sure.
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Re: [LU] Sgt WILKO OBE

[Steve Gillen]

OBE = Old Big 'Ead 😉

Seriously though, well deserved and am pleased to hear he got it.

Sinfield however, should have got a knighthood

> On 30 Dec 2023, at 15:37, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Great to see Howard Wilkinson getting an OBE in the New Year honours list 
> A real hero for LUFC 
> Dave 
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Dog botherers

[Steve Gillen]

That would be “Thanks for ALL the fish” now say that 42 times! (Another Douglas 
Adam’s hint) 😂😂

> On 29 Oct 2023, at 11:00, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  Yes i nearly posted about Ayling but did not want to spoil the euphoria 
> Ayling has been an absolute hero for us, arguably pound for pound our best 
> ever buy ( £200,000 or something equally crazy) an unbelievable bargain He 
> has always played with a smile in his face, was pivotal in the Bielsa team, 
> scoring a few memorable goals and stepping up after the Forest defeat to get 
> us back on track. So for those reasons i will always love ' Bill'- he seems a 
> good lad off the pitch and has overcome his speech impediment so there is 
> lots to admire 
> When i saw the team sheet i expressed surprise that Shack was chosen over 
> him, but having seen his display when he came on i totally understand the 
> decision.  Without exaggeration he was awful, 3 or 4 times the winger , 
> anonymous before then   suddenly looked lightening fast as Ayling looked like 
> he was running in treacle . The few times he got the ball , his passing was 
> off giving it away most times,  and his shot trying to recreate the famous 
> volley v Hudds was terrible. 
> A real shame but on that showing he is finished - time catches up with them 
> all.
> The other 2 Bielsa stalwarts fared litle better, Cooper turned a rock solid 
> defence into a shaky one , struik alongside him and on his wrong side 
> suddenly looked much less assured and impressive.  Plus they had a good shout 
> for a penalty against coops - not sure why he is ahead of Cresswell now 
> Bamford  , who got a few boos but was mainly serenaded, was also poor. He 
> made one great tackle but never looked like scoring and his one shot was met 
> with hoots of derision by the away fans still in the ground.
> It is a pity that 3 such important players ( albeit Paddy and Coops had their 
> critics and poor moments) end up looking like shadows of their former selves, 
> but the time has come to say " thanks very much, you will go down in leeds 
> united history , but goodbye and thanks for the fish"*
> * memories ( a little Douglas Adams for you there) 
> 
> Dave
>On Sunday, 29 October 2023 at 09:39:47 GMT, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk 
>  wrote:  
> 
> 
> Agreed Dave. That first half was as good as anything since Bielsa’s good 
> days… although, Huddersfield were hapless. A special mention for the number 
> 16 who is still rocking in a cupboard somewhere in the away changing room 
> after trying to contain Summerville for 45 minutes.
> 
> I’ve got no problem with taking the foot off the gas and essentially 
> ‘resting’ everyone, with Leicester coming up on Friday.
> 
> One thing to mention was how much off the pace the old guard looked when they 
> came on Bamford, Cooper and especially Ayling.
> 
> I would hate to try and mark Rutter.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: nattan--- via Leedslist 
>> Date: 28 October 2023 at 16:48:40 BST
>> To: leeds list 
>> Subject: [LU] Dog botherers
>> Reply-To: "nat...@sky.com" 
>> 
>> That was excellent  ( well first half anyway) we totally destroyed them for 
>> 45 exhilarating minutes and then played the second half at half pace as we 
>> criused to victory Everything that was poor in the turgid display on 
>> Wednesday was brilliant today.We were on fire with Georginio and Summerville 
>> unplayable as they attacked with pace and precision ably assisted by James 
>> and Piroe and backed up by Ampadu and Kamara.It was scintillating stuff and 
>> there was only ever going to be one winner after they did the stupid trick 
>> of making us kick towards the Revie Stand first half, wow how that backfired 
>> We were all over them and Piroe fired home only to be denied by an off side 
>> flag. But it only delayed the inevitable as we took them apart.
>> Georginio got the ball on the edge of our box, played a lovely weighted pass 
>> to Summerville who controlled it with the outside of his foot and sprinted 
>> forward before playinh it across to James who took a couple of touches and 
>> fired home,  what a great counter attacking goal 
>> Then Summerville was played into the box danced around a few players and put 
>> it through the crowd of Huuds players and past the keeper . He loved it and 
>> him and Gnonto ( who ran onto the pitch) did some weird dance in celebration 
>> as he crowd went mad."F  off home and shag your dogs " echoed round the 
>> stadium 
>> Things went from great to sublime as we then rattled in 2 more, Summerville 
>> carrying the ball from the half way line to the edge of the area and fed in 
>> james for his second.  Georginio then danced into the box gave it to 
>> Summerville who turned a couple of defenders inside out and out it in the 
>> bottom corner . We were in heaven , Georginio was totally running the show
>> Second half was a non event as we just kept the ball without doing much with 
>> it , subs

Re: [LU] Norwich

[Steve Gillen]

Yeah, I get the “Soaraway Sun” irony; but in actual fact despite our despair 
and then elation, for the neutral that was a great game, one of the best this 
season, as I said, for the neutral; not being one of them, I hardly have any 
voice or fingernails left.

> On 22 Oct 2023, at 17:28, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> Possibly the worst football match I have ever witnessed. Doncha hate Leeds 
> United they were completely clueless and Norwich were all over us.
> 
> Leeds United doncha love 'em. Norwich might look good but we were far better. 
> There is a really good team emerging here.
> 
> (C) Glenda Slag 2023
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Re: [LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[Steve Gillen]

Hi all..

I wrote to Mike on Saturday evening enquiring after his situation and that of 
his family and close friends. He replied the next day that he is ok and that he 
and his family are not in Gaza and for the moment quite safe. He had his 
standard, and in the circumstances quite understandable, short rant about the 
situation, and more personally how he finds it difficult and embarrassing 
interacting with his Arab secretary, whom he likes and respects a great deal. 
He was comforted by the fact that people outside of his locality are moved to 
show concern for him. He also mentioned that he saw Saturdays game and still 
thinks we are not good enough, but a win is still a win 🤷🏼‍♂️

With permission, I shall let Mike know people here have been asking after his 
safety.

Steve Gillen

> On 10 Oct 2023, at 03:43, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
> 
> It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would presume
> that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
> Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is deafening.
> 
> 
> 
> Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?
> 
> And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter C
> the old un'
> 
> 
> 
> Pete Castlehouse
> 
> 355 Darling Street
> 
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> 
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Re: [LU] Watford

[Steve Gillen]

I can't say that I disagree with what you say, but I think our hew owners would 
want to see a return on their investment and look to fund the planned ground 
improvements. That's not even considering that we are enjoying this league as 
we have the young talent to perform to our hopes and expectations; if we don't 
get promoted or at least very near as a springboard for the following year to 
get promoted, then as we have already learned, that talent will either be 
picked off by the bigger boys or will move on for the benefit of their own 
careers. We all may have been loyal fans since God was a lad, but our current 
full grounds could well become what we've all seen an experienced  before - a 
midweek drizzling night game against the likes of Crewe with a gate of 17000 
and thinking that's good.

We may not like it  but it's now become the nature of the beast. Money is the 
only way forward in football and the only measure of success.or we can just 
become a club that "was good at one time"

Steve

> On 24 Sep 2023, at 16:08, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> Sadly I tend to agreethere is nothing really to look forward to
> if we go back up except hoping flat track bullies like Salah & Harland
> don't score too many against us as we struggle to keep our heads above
> water again. Can't hope we don't do it though.
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 2:40 PM Michael Benjamin  wrote:
>> 
>> Saw today Brighton playing Bournmouth today.
>> Two third division teams with funny money.
>> I am loving this  season,  but hoping not to go up.
>> It's not football or a sport
>> 
>> Get Outlook for Android 
>> --
>> *From:* Leedslist  on behalf of nattan---
>> via Leedslist 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2023 4:20:24 PM
>> *To:* Robert Heath 
>> *Cc:* leeds list 
>> *Subject:* Re: [LU] Watford
>> 
>> As you no doubt realise the Anthony / Sinisterra quote was very much
>> tongue in cheek at the moment but my son knows a Bournemouth fan and he was
>> gutted to see Anthony basically being swapped for Sinisterra
>> Agree re Adams - Ampadu has more to his game than Adams, the only question
>> is can he do it in the Prem ?
>> Got to do it for a longer spell to take over from KP  , and again KP did
>> it at a higher level
>> I have  not watched  Ampadu playing for Wales but presumably he is doing
>> well enough to suggest he will be fine in Prem.
>>On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 12:10:59 BST, Robert Heath <
>> heathpalai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If Anthony allows us to ask who the f is Sinisterra, I'd say
>> Ampadu's magnificence begs the question who the f is Tyler
>> Adams.and maybe even, dare I say, who the f is Kalvin Phillips?
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 10:49 AM nattan--- via Leedslist <
>> leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Well the good times are back at ER , after the dross of last season and 3
>> draws this , we returned to winning ways, and how. It will never make up
>> for the play off final humiliation  but yesterday put Watford back in their
>> box. We hammered them   totally outclassed them from start to finish and
>> 3-0 flattered them.
>> We did it with some lovely football and very good goals,  and Georginio
>> was at the heart of it all, fast becoming a fan favourite with his step
>> overs , fancy footwork and a huge smile on his face.  Not worth £30m ( very
>> few , if any,  are) but looking an excellent and exciting player at this
>> level.
>> Watford were as poor a side as i have seen for many a season but we made
>> them look worse as Ampadu and Kamara  ( looking a good buy on this
>> evidence) totally dominated possession and the midfield battle, allowing
>> our flair players to shine, Georginio,  Summerville and James , with 2
>> assists - would have been 3 but Georginio missed a sitter and perhaps
>> should have had a penalty after being put through by an amazing ball by
>> Piroe , end product at  last- did indeed shine,  and Piroe showed he is
>> going to score loads
>> The defence was solid Byram and Shack marauding forward at times and busy
>> throughout , Cooper and Struik mopped everything up and Meslier,  such a
>> change after being bombarded with shots,  most of which he failed to save,
>> last season,  got out of his deckchair and put out his cigar ( so easy had
>> his afternoon been) to pull off a great save right at the end to keep a
>> 4th, count them, 1 2 3 4 clean sheet.
>> Jaiden Anthony came on to top the afternoon off with 2 bits of skill,
>> beating 2 players and having a shot saved, then running onto Georginio' s
>> brilliantly weighted through ball to finish with aplomb , who the f is
>> Sinisterra?
>> A great afternoon,  a bit nervy first half when a miss by Georginio , a
>> disallowed goal by the same player, and good saves from Ampadu  and
>> Summerville 3 times, had us wondering if this would be a repeat of the
>> Sheff Wed game.
>> A great first goal , another to " copy and put in the book " settled
>

Re: [LU] Return to Yesteryear

[Steve Gillen]

Such as throwing your shit at the opposition fans.

> On 2 Sep 2023, at 12:13, Billy-Bob Blob  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations 🍻. At such a grand age better not get up to any Monkey 
> Business.
> Cheers
> 
> 
>> On 2 Sep 2023, at 6:14 pm, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
>> 
>> You  absolute OLD bastard!  Enjoy every moment whilst still  sober!
>> The rest as they say will be a blur!
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> As part of my 70th Birthday year celebrations...
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> MOT
> 
>   Cheers Nigel
> 
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Re: [LU] Return to Yesteryear

[Steve Gillen]

Betty, May I wish you the sincerest Anniversarial Felicitations for tomorrow - 
make sure we win today please. 👍🎂🎁🍺

MOT

> On 2 Sep 2023, at 11:15, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
> 
> You  absolute OLD bastard!  Enjoy every moment whilst still  sober!
> The rest as they say will be a blur!
> 
> Pete
> 
> As part of my 70th Birthday year celebrations...
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Re: [LU] Gnonto

[Steve Gillen]

Silly boy is getting poor advice from his agent. It could be the end of his 
international career if he doesn't snap out of it and play his heart out until 
January.

> On 12 Aug 2023, at 13:57, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Indeed.
> What a bellend :)
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023, 11:17 am, Jim Moran  wrote:
> 
> Seems the famous chant we had for him had the last few words in the wrong
> order.
> 
>> On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 10:05, nattan--- via Leedslist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> it is going to be interesting to see if our new owners will stick to their
>> guns or are all mouth and no action. The statement could not be any clearer
>> or more emphatic but all the usual media are ignoring that and still say he
>> is off to  Everton , a couple of click bait ones even report that " leeds
>> have named their price"
>> I hope they refuse to pay his wages if he is in breach of contract and
>> stand firm , players have too much power. Not sure where it all leaves
>> gnonto , fans will find it hard to accept him back at ER , and if i were
>> relegation-fighting Everton i would worry that he could ' spit his dummy
>> out' if tnings go poorly so a big gamble
>> Here is the " he is going nowhere " club official statement
>> 
>> "Earlier this week, Willy Gnonto and his representatives were informed by
>> the club that he would not be sold this summer.
>> 
>> Following those conversations, Willy felt he was unable to play in
>> Wednesday night’s Carabao Cup tie with Shrewsbury Town.
>> 
>> Despite training for the last two days, Willy has informed Daniel Farke
>> that he still does not feel able to play this weekend and has not travelled
>> to Birmingham for the game tomorrow.
>> 
>> This is now an internal disciplinary matter and the club will make no
>> further comment, other than to reiterate that Willy Gnonto is not for sale."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Fwd: Cardiff

[Steve Gillen]

My main frustration from Sunday was watching our talented and skillful front 
players tip tapping it from one to the other. Towards the end I was literally 
shouting at the TV (I was unable to go to this game) "for f***s sake will 
someone shoot"? - people have been awful to poor Paddy but I have always rated 
him, I have known very few with the skill to hold things until support arrives 
as well as he does. And he does shoot, even if he misses, he at least has a go. 
If Paddy can't be brought back and soon, then Sunday taught me that a proven 
goal scorer has to be our priority.

Thank goodness Summerville took the advice and tried a shot.

> On 8 Aug 2023, at 15:43, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> My problem with trying to ‘analyse’ where the club is at is at is that until 
> the transfer window closes we have no idea who is staying. I doubt Gnonto 
> will be at Leeds, rumours are rife about Summerville wanting a move, but key 
> for me will be if an unfit Adams can be held onto? If we were to lose all 3 
> then hopefully replacements have been targetted, but we will undoubtedly be 
> weaker. Adams aside, I can’t think of a single Leeds player who hasn’t been 
> criticised by our fickle fans and I can’t blame any of them from wanting 
> away. Meslier and Bamford in particular must be sick of the numb-nut armchair 
> managers. That said, I’d be surprised if Leeds haven’t looked at Paddy’s 
> medical insurance with a view to laying him off? On his day he is a class 
> player, but his body just doesn’t seem up to it? 
> 
> On the basis of just one game though, I know Farke will be happier than the 
> Cardiff manager as to what the future looks like. Roll on the end of the 
> transfer window though!
> 
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2023, at 13:46, seanscribe--- via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cody Drameh can't get fit fast enough for me. Ayling has been a marvelous 
>> servant to the club, but he's no longer a good enough defender to start for 
>> a club aiming for promotion. We know for a fact (given his Luton experience 
>> last season) that Drameh is. I also couldn't understand Farke's decision to 
>> not start Poveda, who's been an absolute revelation during pre-season. I'd 
>> have gone with Sinisterra on the left, Summerville or Gelhardt behind Gnonto 
>> in the middle, and Poveda on the right. That attacking set up would get 
>> goals. Once the team's ahead and Cardiff have to chase the game, THEN you 
>> bring on James to exploit the space behind their defence. 
>> Cheers!
>> Sean
>>   On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 06:08:56 AM EDT, Nick 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Bit late to this, but yes, Dave, pretty much agree with that. 
>> 
>> Ayling and Cooper are creaking - despite Cooper’s cracking goal - for Cooper 
>> the judgement now is whether his undoubted leadership qualities makes up for 
>> the declining / limited qualities as a defender. Hjelde looked at sea as a 
>> left back. Dan James is fast and unguided - he doesn’t do enough with the 
>> ball once he has it, hopefully we will get a fit and engaged Harrison back 
>> soon
>> 
>> On the plusses though Cresswell and Byram came on and did well - Byram added 
>> some zip and confidence down the left. Looking forward to seeing what Drameh 
>> can bring as well - we might have a decent and young back five in a couple 
>> of weeks. I suspect it is not worth getting too hung up on Meslier, who I 
>> think is a fine young keeper but who is shell-shocked after the last 18 
>> months behind our defence - the same could be said of Struijk - because who 
>> knows how long Meslier will remain at the club.
>> 
>> Gray and Ampadu were quality in the middle - Ampadu gets his foot in, and 
>> makes good use of the ball, while Gray looks very accomplished - hope his 
>> progress continues.
>> 
>> The kind of total football forward line of Sinisterra, Somerville and Gnonto 
>> (and James) where everyone doesn’t really have a position, but just roam and 
>> cause havoc where they can, really looks like a promising way forward…if we 
>> can keep everyone - or most of them given we have Jack H and Poveda - who 
>> came on and had a very effective 20 minutes or so - to factor in.
>> 
>> Promising indeed.
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 
 From: nattan--- via Leedslist >>> >
 Subject: [LU] Cardiff
 Date: 6 August 2023 at 19:52:54 BST
 To: leeds list mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
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 " f off home and shag your sheep" chanted leeds fans at the end ( i make 
 no comment re Yorkshire sheep shaggers ) and it made us laugh but at one 
 point this song could easily have been booing the team off .
 After 2 boring and pretty awful years in the Prem, this was a return to 
 the championship and the madness that goes with it.
 Pre game we all agreed that no predictions about the season coukd 
 realistically be made till the wi

Re: [LU] C’mon Wolves.

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👏👏👏

> On 20 May 2023, at 14:36, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,Scott. 
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Re: [LU] Firpo has one match ban

[Steve Gillen]

Wish he had missed the Newcastle match. We might have had at least one penalty 
less..

> On 15 May 2023, at 12:48, Wiggy  wrote:
> 
> Matt wrote:
> 
>> I wasnt sure if it was a 2nd yellow or straight red - but both are one 
> game bans i think, so he could be back for Spurs.
> 
> Adam Pope just confirmed it was a second yellow (persistent misconduct), so 
> he'll just miss the Newcastle match.
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Re: [LU] Arse tomorrow...

[Steve Gillen]

Personally I see no reason we can't or won't win. Arsenal are good this season 
and I would not at all be surprised if they do beat us; however, there have not 
and will not win every game home or away, some will be lost, likely more drawn 
(which I'd gladly accept for this game), so there is always a chance we could 
do something good Another Wolves away result would be tremendous.

> On 31 Mar 2023, at 12:09, James A. Lundon @ Yahoo! via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> We have gone there before with no hope and done magical things.
> Is it any different this time around?
> James.
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Re: [LU] Brighton

[Steve Gillen]

I pretty much agree with all this except to add that yesterday's performance 
was about as poor as I've ever seen of Leeds. I mean insofar as we have players 
of talent who are excellent and may be enough to save us but those players are 
just that. They are not playing much as a team, I'm pointing to Utter and to 
some degree Harrison, they try to do it alone it felt. The exception being 
Gnonto, he did play for others and was the spark we were looking for often. I 
very much got the feeling that our coach has laid the law down that we don't 
all fly forward and leave ourselves open at the back (Ayling take note) which 
meant that we were not as exciting to watch as we have been, but not the 
walkover we used to be - well not as much as we used to be, we still had our 
moments of squeaky bum - sadly though that meant that we struggled to force 
ourselves upon Brighton. I honestly could see no way we might score until up 
popped Bamford, but even then he didn't receive service so much as he had to 
make it himself.

I struggle to see how we can make it this year as everyone around us is doing 
something and we aren' - sigh. I am so disappointed.

Steve G

> On 12 Mar 2023, at 10:09, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Well,  similar to last season we salvaged a point at home v Brighton, and 
> similar to last season we left wondering if it is enough. Wins for 
> Bournemouth and Everton suggest not,  but to be honest Brighton are a much 
> better team this season, as shown both by their league position and the fact 
> that their fans were going " ole" after 15mins of dominance even though it 
> was still 0 0 
> Pre game the mood in the pub was down beat, no one could see where our goals 
> were going to come from and you can't win if you can't score.
> It was good therefore to see Bamford  back up top and Rodrigo on the bench , 
> getting back to full fitness
> Despite that we were very much second best for long periods of this game as a 
> super confident Brighton side all knowing their roles gave us a chasing.  It 
> was no surprise when they took the lead , the winger tied Roca in knots then 
> crossed over Luke aylings head to the other wide player who nodded it back to 
> the striker, unmarked, to head home. 
> We feared the worse,  but there were a few things to build on  yesterday , if 
> we can, and one was our tenacity and refusal to be beaten.  Harrison chased a 
> ball and managed to keep it in play, passed to Bamford who took a touch to 
> beat the defender and lashed it home with his right foot off the underside of 
> the bar, a great hit ( even with the possible deflection)  We then got lucky 
> as Brighton missed an easy chance and so 1 1 at half time.
> Second half was more of the same with Ayling and aaranson both missing 
> chances.  We then shot ourselves in the foot,  a cross was intercepted by 
> wober (?) almost giving an own goal but Mes saved him only for the save 
> to rebound to Harrison who sliced it in - a betting scam with big money on an 
> o.g. ? - Harrison did make amends with our second equaliser and became the 
> first Leeds player to score at both ends and get an assist in the same game ( 
> assists have not been recorded for long)
> We then got lucky again as welbeck danced through our defence but fired wide 
> and high over the advancing Meslier,  that would have finished us. Instead we 
> hung on and made a few subs, Rodrigo,  Gnonto and Mckennie all coming on.
> To audible groans from the crowd Wlillie played another short corner to 
> Harrison but this time it worked as Jackie sent the defender the wrong way, 
> cut inside and unleashed a great curling shot , a top goal, but followed by a 
> brief panic as we waited for confirmation and Brighton moaned about two balls 
> on the pitch
> We saw out the last 10 minutes or so and got a point.
> Bad bits,  Roca invisible again,  Mckennie was so poor we discussed who he 
> was on a par with, after dismissing Spring and Westlake, we decided he is the 
> new Jermaine Wright - not an accolade Rutter also looked like his one  trick 
> will not fool defenders at this level ( he was only on for a few minutes so 
> dont want to judge him harshly)
> Good stuff, Rodrigo and Sinisterra  both returning to fitness,  the goal by 
> Harrison,  maybe he can now find some form, the goal and general play by 
> Bamford,  maybe we can score the goals we need. Finally the fact that in a 
> game where the opposition were better we twice came from  behind. 
> Having said that we need to get some wins,  and at least two of my mates are 
> 99% resigned to going down. We spent plenty of time in the pub saying how 
> much more fun it is in the championship. We do still have time and the two 
> games in a week at home to forest and palace could be pivotal but we need to 
> start winning beginning with wolves next week 
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Re: [LU] Who next ?

[Steve Gillen]

I must admit to some sympathy for Jesse. I liked the guy. He had passion and 
determination to his plan for Leeds. Sadly what this passion lacked was the 
guile needed to be a successful Premier League manager. I have no doubt he 
could be a great Championship manager, but sadly the Premier League seems to be 
just a single step too far. I would have loved it to work out for him, I would 
love it to work out for anyone associated to Leeds but that was not to be 
OK next? I truly haven't a clue xcept just about anyone that Fat Fwank

> On 6 Feb 2023, at 19:22, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> Social media chatter seems to be around Corboran - I think that’d be an 
> interesting choice. 
> 
> Not impressed by any of the usual names - Big Sam (god forbid), Gerrard, I’m 
> not sure I could see Pochetino at Leeds, but he’d be a statement signing. Of 
> course the club seem pretty organised when replacing managers, so I 
> anticipate a quick decision. 
> 
> I am pleased Marsch has gone though - to me there were no signs he could turn 
> it around - he seemed like a desperate gambler, not understanding why he kept 
> coming home skint!
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2023, at 18:18, nattan--- via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There seems to be no sympathy or support for Marcsh either on here or on 
>> social media so the sacking seems to be the correct decision, but of course 
>> that is only half the issue, even more important is who do we bring in next?
>> Seen reports that Pochettino and Benitez are both out of work, and seen 
>> calls for Corberan, and more surprisingly Kompany,  even seen suggestions 
>> that we should get Bielsa back 
>> I dont watch / follow football apart from LUFC so I have no preference or 
>> ideas ( dont think Bielsa should return even though I still have his statue 
>> in pride of place, a figure of him was on top of my Christmas tree,  and he 
>> is still my phone wallpaper,  I agree with the mantra " never go back " - 
>> doubt he could turn us round again)
>> 
>> So for those who do know about these things A, who would you want. B   who 
>> do you think we will get
>> Dave 
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Re: [LU] Rutter

[Steve Gillen]

Have you ever tried searching for a player on YouTube and NOT seen them looking 
amazing? They always do. 

> On 15 Jan 2023, at 12:12, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> I see Rutter has signed As usual he looks amazing on YouTube clips etc a 
> really exciting player who loves tricks, turns and running at people ( he 
> also likes falling over)
> His addition means we should be brilliant going forward- Sinisterra,  Gnonto 
> , Summerville and now Rutter are all the types to get fans on their feet ( if 
> you sit down that is ) add Harrison and Aaronson ( if he gets back to form) 
> and we should be creating lots for Rodrigo and Bamford etc.
> If only we could sort out our defensive frailties we would be good.  Whether 
> Jesse is the man to sort it out is certainly open to debate ( he needs 2 wins 
> this week for starters) but hopefully Max can help in   that regard 
> On another note my wife started laughing during villa match because we had 
> brought on " Max and Paddy" ( wober and Bamford)
> 
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Re: [LU] Dave Dowden.

[Steve Gillen]

That's exactly what I was (less well done as yourself) trying to say with my 
post Ian. Essentially we may not know each other but we do know each other, 
albeit virtually. It is therefore still just as sad and upsetting if one of 
that group passes away., as it is in real life. RIP Dave from all your friends

> On 11 Jan 2023, at 07:05, Ian Murray  wrote:
> 
> Really sorry to hear this news.
> 
> I haven't met many of you lot in person but we have all been on this list for 
> a fairly long time now and in some weird digital way we all sort of know bits 
> about each other.
> 
> Rest in Peace Dave.
> 
> 
> From: Leedslist  on behalf of John Boocock 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2023 3:09 AM
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org 
> Subject: [LU] Dave Dowden.
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Quite a few of you will know that lister and member of the Leeds Lards 
> worldnet team, Dave 'Lido' Dowden has been ill with cancer this past two 
> years. His illness finally got the better of him late on Sunday night. He was 
> at home with his family having turned what was a six month assessment into 
> two very full years.
> 
> Those of you who knew Dave would know that he was a devoted Leeds fan but 
> there was so much more to him. He was a munroist, he enjoyed cycling, and 
> took an active part in politics in Pudsey. In recent years he was a leading 
> light in the Pudsey Greenside Greenway project. He also liked a good fire!
> 
> A committed traveller, there were few places he had not visited and anyone 
> who shared those trips will confirm that they were always er, eventful. He 
> made many of the matches abroad during our most recent European campaigns and 
> quite a few of us shared those trips. (Anyone going to the Barca game will 
> remember him and Chris Fitz staying above a sex shop which they were 
> convinced was run by nuns).
> 
> I can not begin to list all the adventures, stories and mishaps he was 
> involved in (he was short of a big toe after an accident with a lawn mower). 
> One thing I can say is they were many. Maybe one day someone will collect 
> them.
> 
> Anyway, he now joins the other listers in the great list retirement home in 
> the sky. Dave was a one off and will never be forgotten.
> 
> Betty
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Re: [LU] Dave Dowden.

[Steve Gillen]

I am shocked and deeply saddened to hear of the loss to the list, Leeds United 
and, most importantly, his family, Dave Dowden. I did not know Dave personally 
and to my mind we never met, knowingly. I suspect we may well have met on one 
or other Lards outings at the Worldnet tournament latterly held in Adel. 

My deepest sympathies I extend to his family and hope they might find a little 
comfort in the fact that his real and virtual friends will likewise miss him 
and honour his memory.

RIP Dave. The list remembers you.

Steve Gillen

> On 9 Jan 2023, at 19:18, n...@6haroldplace.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Thanks John,
> 
> A huge loss…any man that can negotiate years of parking at ER at the cost of 
> a pork pie a time, is a genius…twisted perhaps, but a genius nonetheless.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 9 Jan 2023, at 19:10, John Boocock  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Quite a few of you will know that lister and member of the Leeds Lards 
>> worldnet team, Dave 'Lido' Dowden has been ill with cancer this past two 
>> years. His illness finally got the better of him late on Sunday night. He 
>> was at home with his family having turned what was a six month assessment 
>> into two very full years.
>> 
>> Those of you who knew Dave would know that he was a devoted Leeds fan but 
>> there was so much more to him. He was a munroist, he enjoyed cycling, and 
>> took an active part in politics in Pudsey. In recent years he was a leading 
>> light in the Pudsey Greenside Greenway project. He also liked a good fire!
>> 
>> A committed traveller, there were few places he had not visited and anyone 
>> who shared those trips will confirm that they were always er, eventful. He 
>> made many of the matches abroad during our most recent European campaigns 
>> and quite a few of us shared those trips. (Anyone going to the Barca game 
>> will remember him and Chris Fitz staying above a sex shop which they were 
>> convinced was run by nuns).
>> 
>> I can not begin to list all the adventures, stories and mishaps he was 
>> involved in (he was short of a big toe after an accident with a lawn mower). 
>> One thing I can say is they were many. Maybe one day someone will collect 
>> them.
>> 
>> Anyway, he now joins the other listers in the great list retirement home in 
>> the sky. Dave was a one off and will never be forgotten. 
>> 
>> Betty
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Re: [LU] Arsenal

[Steve Gillen]

OK your point is taken that it was not a penalty  as Bamford had fouled first, 
I accept that.. HOWEVER, the red card should have remained as whether the 
ball was in play or not that was a studs up kick out attack and would be 
classed as violent conduct and should still be a sending off. Am I right or 
what? Or are the players now allowed to chin each other to no consequence 
because the ball is in touch and not in play?

> On 17 Oct 2022, at 09:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  I missed the game despite spending hours on the phone and entering into the 
> ballot so watched on TV. 
> I feel a lot better this morning than I did after the Palace game. We were 
> excellent second half and Arsenal looked out on their feet at times. Was this 
> a consequence of playing last Thursday ? Maybe, but who cares ? 
> First of all the controversial ending - unfortunately it was a blatant push 
> by Bamford so no chance of a penalty. Yes their guy lashed out a bit with his 
> feet and you could argue that was a red but Bamford had already committed the 
> first foul. 
> I thought first half we competed well but were 2nd best and Arsenal had the 
> best chances whilst we only made their keeper work once from a scrappy 
> corner. Our tactics weren't really working with Harrison playing as a striker 
> and Rodrigo as a no 10 where he was pretty ineffective. 
> Marsch said that it was an agree swap at half time of Rod for Bamford (you 
> don't often hear about planned subs like that). It did work though and for 
> all the abuse Bamford got on Sunday night Twitter I thought he was excellent 
> and really made the difference. Arsenal couldn't cope with him and as a 
> result Aaronson and Siri started to get more space and time. It was one way 
> traffic for most of the half and the only surprise was that we didn't win it 
> 3 or 4-1, we were that much better. Finishing however it becoming a problem 
> and you can see that Bamford is getting twitchy. On another day though, his 
> disallowed effort which looked like a dodgy decision in slow motion is given 
> and he sticks the pen away, we win and he's a hero - of course that didn't 
> happen his haters will say. 
> I think that performance made me realise what Marsch is trying to do and it 
> could work although I've still got that nagging feeling that the only reason 
> we overran them was because they were knackered. 
> My scores: 
> Meslier - 7 Didn't do a lot wrong. Some blamed him for the goal, I think 
> that's a bit harsh 
> Rasmus - 8 Definitely looked a lot better last two games. He is never going 
> to offer as much as Ayling going forward though 
> Struijk - 7. Struggled first half but then realised he need to get to Saka 
> earlier and after that Saka never had a kick. He also got forward well which 
> he has done in the last 2 games. 
> Cooper - 7. Solid. No complaints. 
> Koch - 8. Extra solid 
> Adams - 7. I sometimes feel he's fighting a one man battle in there as I 
> don't think Roca helps him too much. Gets through a lot of work. 
> Roca - 5. Poor first half in which he was a passenger but to his credit he 
> like everyone improved 2nd half and put in some good work and good balls. For 
> me though he's disappointed. 
> Harrison - 5. Out of position. 
> Rodrigo - 4. Ridiculous pass for the goal 
> Sinistera - 8. Lively throughout even in the first half. Probably needs to 
> get a bit fitter 
> Aaronson - 8. I thought that was his best game for a while especially 2nd 
> half where he ran them ragged down the left wing. 
> Subs:
> Bamford - 8. Missed pen but was the difference for me 
> Koch - busy 
> Jimmy - missed a great chance 
> 
> Thankfully I've got a ticket for Fulham so looking forward to Sunday. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>On Monday, 17 October 2022 at 08:42:01 BST, Nick  
> wrote:  
> 
> So ref doesn’t see a clear handball, game goes on for nearly a minute until 
> someone gets his attention - VAR & a penalty, which we miss.
> Then in injury time there’s a tussle as Bamford goes through, there’s some 
> afters and their 6 kicks his studs up and into Bamford - doesn’t look like a 
> penalty but he gives it and sends their guy off, for the violent conduct I 
> assume, because the tussle wasn’t a sending off. There’s 5 minutes while they 
> go nuts. VAR again - penalty and red card overturned.
> What is the point?
> 
> Add to this the 35 minute break in the first minute, when we lost power and 
> the referees can’t communicate via their little walkie-talkies…but you know 
> it was a clear sunny afternoon, we had a ball, the ref had his whistle and 
> the linesman had their flags… don’t know how managed for the 130 years before 
> all this technology.
> 
> All that said, we were better than Arsenal and deserved at least 1 point, if 
> not 3. We keep Jesus and Martinelli quiet. Struijk had a battle with Saka, 
> which he won over the 90 minutes, but of course Saka ‘won’ ‘cos he got the 
> goal, from one of those utterly unpredictable mad

Re: [LU] side before self

[Steve Gillen]

I counted the yellows as a couple for us and one for them…… not that it matters 
that much, unless it impacts on her league too? Does it?

> On 25 Aug 2022, at 10:27, Nick  wrote:
> 
> clip doing the rounds on Twitter etc, of that punch up half way through the 
> 2nd half…
> 
> Drameh & one of their guys get in tangle in front of the South Stand - their 
> guy looks like he throws Drameh to the ground 
> 
> Meslier and Hjelde come flying in - looks like Hjelde lands one on their man
> 
> About 15 guys all in by the end - Ref gives out a couple yellows - 
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Re: [LU] 1 0 defeat

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Interesting though that the best shot that required a serious save from their 
keeper was from James

> On 17 Jul 2022, at 10:35, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  That's one of the points we were making .We struggled for goals last season 
> despite being a team who always 'went for it' 
>  We have lost Raphs goals and assists.  From admittedly very brief glimpses ( 
> plus looking at thier records) neither Adams nor Roca  are goal scoring 
> midfielders,  James  is famous for his inability to finish chances ( shown 
> again today) So when we are not even creating chances how are we going to 
> score- Bamford and aaronson barely got an opportunity between them 
> However it is pre season and this is the time to sort things out and address 
> these problems,  plus we are still in the market for a new centre forward.
> Hopefully it will all come good, as it did under Bielsa,  when the season 
> starts 
> DavePS anyone know when Caligari tickets are going on sale ? 
>On Sunday, 17 July 2022, 08:00:30 BST, Alec McQueen  
> wrote:  
> 
> Alas, we looked toothless… very little attacking threat. I am struggling to 
> see what JM is trying to do in the attacking third. Anybody know? 
> Cheers
> A
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 17 Jul 2022, at 16:32, nattan--- via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dirty Villa bast@Ed’s and totally incompetent referring will mean this game 
>> will be remembered more for the appalling foul on Archie Gray by McGinn that 
>> looked to end up in a serious injury. Ref had lost control and two teams who 
>> hate each other started leaving a foot in and plenty of afters.
>> Second half instantly forgettable but we lost due to ref wanting to give 
>> penalties- first when it did not hit the hand,saved, then the goal when the 
>> ball was fired at Davies from a yard and caught his hand- very harsh indeed 
>> Game just fizzled out . Lots of changes from both sides 
>> But 60 mins for Bamford and a run out for the others 
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Survived

[Steve Gillen]

Happy retirement Kevin Prepare to find yourself busier than you were at 
work. 3 years for me now and I've found truth in what everyone says "I don't 
know how I found time to work"

Enjoy more than I did - after the first few months we had 2 years of lock 
downs... Not the best thing but way better than turning up at an office each 
day. 👍

> On 23 May 2022, at 19:53, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> Good luck as a OAP
> 
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> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Kevin Lewis - UK 
> SBS via Leedslist
> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2022 20:10
> To: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) 
> Subject: [LU] Survived
> 
> UK OFFICIAL
> 
> Well I've not posted too much lately as I struggled to find anything positive 
> to say.
> Relegation looked like the most likely scenario when the club failed to 
> strengthen the team in January, and the never ending stream of injuries was 
> going to be too much to overcome.
> 
> The replacing of Bielsa with Marsch was always going to be a binary decision.
> Relegation = failure, Survival = Success.
> 
> Whilst I thought some of his selections were a bit bizarre, he did not have a 
> lot of choice.  He inherited a small injury-hit squad, with obvious 
> short-comings even at full strength.
> 
> Yesterday, I wondered what on earth Greenwood was doing in midfield.  But 
> having him man-mark Erikson was a master-stoke.  Erikson was subdued by a 
> younger man, apart from his set-pieces, and Greenwood even had time to get 
> involved with the ball himself
> 
> Going into the last game I put survival chances at 1 in 5.  But despite 
> looking nervous, and even managing to vulnerable against 9 men, they got 
> through.
> 
> IMO 6 signings will be needed to be more comfortable next season, and that is 
> without having to replace Raphinha which must be odds-on.  Hopefully Phillips 
> will stay around for another season.
> 
> Bielsa managed to get average players to perform super-humanly for 3 years.  
> I thnik Marsch will have to rely on just getting better players to perform to 
> expectations. But I think he deserves the chance with a squad that he will 
> have at least some say in developing.
> 
> All the best KOT.
> 
> PS.  I am retiring from work on Thursday, so after nearly 30 ys will be 
> unsubbing from the list with this address.
> Hopefully will be back from a new address as soon as I can work out how to do 
> it, and John lets me go nomail so I catch up from the web digest.
> 
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Re: [LU] Watford /Jesse

[Steve Gillen]

Yeah, Lineker mentioned his accent, which I don't see as a problem as long as 
he learns the various definitions and correct usage of EYUP he'll be fine here.

> On 10 Apr 2022, at 17:55, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
> I agree; he talks very well, praises the players and the club, acknowledges 
> there’s work to do. Reminds me of how MB came in and said he “didn’t deserve” 
> to be at a club like Leeds. Also worth noting that Jack was at pains to 
> praise “the last manager” as well as the current one - clearly no-one feels 
> it’s a situation where the city needs to be torn down and the land sown with 
> salt.
> 
> I still think we’d have been fine without changing; Cooper’s made a real 
> difference to the organisation - Struijk and Llorente are both quiet and 
> having someone to shout at the other players clearly helps, cf. Creswell 
> against Wolves - but I suspect the club would have brought Marsch in the 
> summer, as (as we’ve discussed here) signing year-to-year makes long-term 
> planning very difficult.
> 
> Ed.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 10 Apr 2022, at 17:46, Scott1cairns1  wrote:
>> 
>> JM’s growing on me I like his interview on motd.
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Re: [LU] WhatsApp group

[Steve Gillen]

Mike,

Oystein has asked me to share this link with you

https://chat.whatsapp.com/EsgUY4iIJz5Ens822bottC 

Cheers
Steve

> On 13 Mar 2022, at 10:17, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> What was ?
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: j...@boocock.net
> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:30
> To: Michael Benjamin; Peter 
> Castlehouse
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] WhatsApp group
> 
> I just walked, it was like being in a kindergarten where the kids were all 85 
> years old (either that or I should have stayed off the brown acid!)
> 
> Sent from the top of the world
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [LU] WhatsApp group
> From: Michael Benjamin
> To: Peter Castlehouse
> CC: leedslist
> 
> 
> About what, Betty or I pissed them off or I was wrong
> 
> I hope that you are correct in your assessment as I am convinced we are goin 
> to get wellied this afternoon.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Peter Castlehouse
> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:13
> To: Michael Benjamin
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] WhatsApp group
> 
> Mike, hahaha
> 
> It’s not often you are right, but you are wrong again 😊
> 
> Pete C
> 
>>> On 13/03/2022 8:10:41 PM, Michael Benjamin (m...@myray.com) wrote:
>>> Nope
>> I pissed off in a huff when I was in the wrong (again)
>> Ask Betty
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] WhatsApp group

[Steve Gillen]

Truly you are missed in the group Mike

Steve

> On 13 Mar 2022, at 09:28, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> About what, Betty or I pissed them off or I was wrong
> 
> I hope that you are correct in your assessment as I am convinced we are goin 
> to get wellied this afternoon.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Peter Castlehouse
> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:13
> To: Michael Benjamin
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] WhatsApp group
> 
> Mike, hahaha
> 
> It’s not often you are right, but you are wrong again 😊
> 
> Pete C
> 
>>> On 13/03/2022 8:10:41 PM, Michael Benjamin (m...@myray.com) wrote:
>>> Nope
>> I pissed off in a huff when I was in the wrong (again)
>> Ask Betty
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] WhatsApp group

[Steve Gillen]

I think you need an invite from an admin so I believe Oystein is the chap you 
need to ask - forgive me if I'm mistaken

Steve

> On 13 Mar 2022, at 09:10, Michael Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nope
> I pissed off in a huff when I was in the wrong (again) 
> Ask Betty
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: ejwalsh
> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:09
> To: Steve Gillen
> Cc: leeds list
> Subject: [LU] WhatsApp group
>  
> Hi,
> Does anyone know the log on for the WhatsApp group?
> 
> I took a breather for a while and might rejoin it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] Norwich Ticket

[Steve Gillen]

Hi Nick,

If it’s still available, I’m your man to fill that seat. No problem if it’s 
already spoken for 👍

Steve Gillen

> On 12 Mar 2022, at 19:00, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Available for free to any lister who wishes. West Stand.
> Nick
> 
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Re: [LU] Where we stand

[Steve Gillen]

The acid test is can he say Worcester sauce correctly? And soon learn the 
variations of "Eyup"

> On 2 Mar 2022, at 12:32, Robert Heath  

> This Leicester match (or "Liechester" as Jessieboy probably calls 'em) is
> going to be very Interesting.




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Re: [LU] any links to tonight’s game out there? thanks

[Steve Gillen]

You REALLY don’t want to see this Nick…

> On 14 Dec 2021, at 20:17, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  I wouldn't bother
>On Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 03:07:56 PM EST, Mick Robinson (Gmail) 
>  wrote:  
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mick Robinson
> 
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2021, at 19:53, JONATHAN WYNNE via Leedslist 
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>> hesgoals working fine
>> 
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Re: [LU] Papa johns

[Steve Gillen]

Oh of course it is…… I’ll go back to sleep now (actually I really really need 
to)

> On 20 Oct 2021, at 14:31, nat...@sky.com wrote:
> 
> 
> It is an u21s (?23s) game for us. That's how this cup works
> Dave 
> 
> On Wednesday, 20 October 2021, 10:03:56 BST, Steve Gillen 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info, but I’m not entirely convinced I’m interested in the 
> expensive pizza cup, and I’m deeply hoping Marcelo isn’t either as the league 
> is way more important than risking injury with a paper thin squad.
> 
> > On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:43, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Just seen tickets are on sale for our game v Salford City Reds ( only 
> > £10)Via venuetoobox.com/salfordcity/Asp
> > A new ground if you could not get FA cup tickets
> > Look like we have standing behind one goal and one small seated section 
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Re: [LU] Papa johns

[Steve Gillen]

Thanks for the info, but I’m not entirely convinced I’m interested in the 
expensive pizza cup, and I’m deeply hoping Marcelo isn’t either as the league 
is way more important than risking injury with a paper thin squad.

> On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:43, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Just seen tickets are on sale for our game v Salford City Reds ( only 
> £10)Via venuetoobox.com/salfordcity/Asp
> A new ground if you could not get FA cup tickets
> Look like we have standing behind one goal and one small seated section 
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Steve Gillen]

I though it was called a mimeograph?

> On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:38, Graham Palmer  wrote:
> 
> Banda - a quick google reveals it is spirit duplication
> Graham P
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was 
>> such a time - we duplicated handouts, newsletters etc. on a machine with a 
>> rotating drum (I think).
>> What was the machine and the process called. Can't remember at all.
>> Cheers
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Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3

[Steve Gillen]

Hands off or not Alex the pulling of saka back by his shirt neck WAS dangerous 
play and could potentially caused damage to his windpipe. No question for me 
that should have been a red card. I think even Cellini (spelling?) expected it 
too.

> On 13 Jul 2021, at 07:04, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve
> Agreed that the ref was a lot more hands off than most in this tournament, 
> but it did result in a better game because of it. There were a few times I 
> was screaming at the ref for getting it wrong, then seeing the replay and he 
> was spot on. 
> 
> And rather shamefully, I have to admit I was also screaming at Sterling as he 
> was being pressured in their box: "Dive, you bastard, dive... you choose 
> TODAY to stop diving???" :-)
> Cheers
> A
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 15:27, Steve Gillen  wrote:
>> Whilst I accept that Italy won, the outcome might have been different if the 
>> got tge one maybe two red cards they truly deserved...
>> 
>> > On 13 Jul 2021, at 02:33, Alec McQueen  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Richard
>> > Agree with all of that. Did KP play every minute of every game? I enjoyed
>> > the commentator I had referring to KP as being Bielsa-fit a lot! :-). If
>> > you'd have said this time last year that we would have had a Leeds player
>> > in the team, for him to be fundamental to the England style, and for him to
>> > be one of England's best players, I would have said you were off your
>> > rocker!!
>> > 
>> > I think England did really well. It would have been great to win it, but
>> > Italy were class, and frankly I think they deserved it. They were better
>> > than us. However, as you said, we have a young team and a great squad
>> > they will get better. Decent chance at next year's world cup? Can we stand
>> > the heat?
>> > Cheers
>> > Alec
>> > 
>> >> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 01:38, Richard Naef 
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I do feel for you guys who put the hard hours and days in when we were
>> >> shit and yet can't get tickets now.   Until KP got picked I was ambivalent
>> >> about England to say the least, but even tho we lost, I'm proud of the
>> >> team, they are young and will improve!
>> >> 
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of alan.edgar---
>> >> via Leedslist
>> >> Sent: 10 July 2021 15:44
>> >> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3
>> >> 
>> >> Dave wrote:
>> >>> KALVIN PHILLIPS of LEEDS UNITED is in the team
>> >> 
>> >> A guy who less than a year ago was still playing Championship football,
>> >> but played for England before he played a single Premiership game, and is
>> >> now seeing Rice getting hooked for Henderson while he plays the entire
>> >> match.
>> >>> PS Why were England not this good when I was a regular and had vouchers
>> >> for various finals
>> >> As someone who has been to every Euro and WC since 1988 except 94 and 02,
>> >> I can only share your feelings.Managed to get a ticket for the Germany
>> >> game, and was at the 1st semi, but the prices outside the ground for the
>> >> 2nd semi were far too rich for my blood, and will have sky-rocketed by
>> >> Sunday.
>> >>> shit having to watch in the pub
>> >> 
>> >> Not ideal, definitely - however I managed to blag my way into the Novotel
>> >> on Wembley Way to watch it on the big screen.A great atmosphere, 
>> >> especially
>> >> post-match when the bar stayed open til 3 and the hotel foyer til 5, so
>> >> will try again on Sunday in the hope that when I fail to get in again, the
>> >> evening will take a similar course.
>> >> Al
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Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3

[Steve Gillen]

Whilst I accept that Italy won, the outcome might have been different if the 
got tge one maybe two red cards they truly deserved...

> On 13 Jul 2021, at 02:33, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> 
> Richard
> Agree with all of that. Did KP play every minute of every game? I enjoyed
> the commentator I had referring to KP as being Bielsa-fit a lot! :-). If
> you'd have said this time last year that we would have had a Leeds player
> in the team, for him to be fundamental to the England style, and for him to
> be one of England's best players, I would have said you were off your
> rocker!!
> 
> I think England did really well. It would have been great to win it, but
> Italy were class, and frankly I think they deserved it. They were better
> than us. However, as you said, we have a young team and a great squad
> they will get better. Decent chance at next year's world cup? Can we stand
> the heat?
> Cheers
> Alec
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 01:38, Richard Naef 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do feel for you guys who put the hard hours and days in when we were
>> shit and yet can't get tickets now.   Until KP got picked I was ambivalent
>> about England to say the least, but even tho we lost, I'm proud of the
>> team, they are young and will improve!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of alan.edgar---
>> via Leedslist
>> Sent: 10 July 2021 15:44
>> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Leedslist Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3
>> 
>> Dave wrote:
>>> KALVIN PHILLIPS of LEEDS UNITED is in the team
>> 
>> A guy who less than a year ago was still playing Championship football,
>> but played for England before he played a single Premiership game, and is
>> now seeing Rice getting hooked for Henderson while he plays the entire
>> match.
>>> PS Why were England not this good when I was a regular and had vouchers
>> for various finals
>> As someone who has been to every Euro and WC since 1988 except 94 and 02,
>> I can only share your feelings.Managed to get a ticket for the Germany
>> game, and was at the 1st semi, but the prices outside the ground for the
>> 2nd semi were far too rich for my blood, and will have sky-rocketed by
>> Sunday.
>>> shit having to watch in the pub
>> 
>> Not ideal, definitely - however I managed to blag my way into the Novotel
>> on Wembley Way to watch it on the big screen.A great atmosphere, especially
>> post-match when the bar stayed open til 3 and the hotel foyer til 5, so
>> will try again on Sunday in the hope that when I fail to get in again, the
>> evening will take a similar course.
>> Al
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Re: [LU] Damn

[Steve Gillen]

Might take issue with Watford being classed as London. It’s about as London as 
Wakefield is Leeds. An easily understandable misconception as they are far in 
the uncivilised south aren’t they? 😉

> On 30 May 2021, at 13:26, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> Fulham one but B/ford & W/ford in.that's one extra trip to the
> cursed London next season.
> 
> Let's hope our sequence of 0 wins in 17 games there is well and truly over,
> and our current London sequence of 1 win in 1 is the start of a new era!
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Re: [LU] Big debate with myself about tempting fate

[Steve Gillen]

Press speculation? Would that be the one that links Marcelo to Spurs and 
Bamford to Liverpool? It's all a load of column filling bollocks in my opinion.

> On 12 May 2021, at 16:10, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> Not heard that, and I hope you are very wrong ;-) 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 12 May 2021, at 08:51, Damian Walsh  wrote:
>> 
>> ... But in the end I decided to post anyway :)
>> 
>> Am I the only person who saw the press (specuation?) linking the soon-to-be
>> ex-Roma manager with Leeds?
>> 
>> Or are we all all keeping quiet in the hope that it will go away?
>> 
>> Damian
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Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there

[Steve Gillen]

Not this season... Due to Covid the FA have halved the prize money  to £1.8 
million for the winners.

> On 11 May 2021, at 12:25, Andy Brown  wrote:
> 
> I doubt that will happen. This seasons winners will take £3.4M in prize 
> money. I can’t remember the number mentioned for a league place but it’s not 
> so different.
> 
> The only way the FA Cup is going to have 1980’s levels of importance is by 
> giving the winner a champions league slot.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 May 2021, at 12:13, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm looking forward to a proper go at one or both of the cups next season, 
>> it's been so long since we had any interest in either cup after the early 
>> rounds.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of t...@3lv.uk
>> Sent: 11 May 2021 09:56
>> To: e...@morrish.org
>> Cc: Leeds List 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Oh they've all gone quiet over there
>> 
>> To me, the ONLY downside to this season (Apart from no fans of course) is 
>> simple; we've lost 4 times to the two most boring teams, scoring no goals in 
>> those 360 minutes.
>> 
>> The way Wolves and Brighton set up and play, isn't unattractive and is very 
>> much based on possession - But they both, ultimately, want to try and walk 
>> it into the net ala Barcelona under Pep. Against teams like this, we clearly 
>> struggle (Both will finish below us in the League). MB will, I'm sure, be 
>> aware of this and, hopefully address next season.
>> 
>> Genuinely not bothered about the drubbing at Old Trafford or MOST of the 
>> defeats this season, other than those 4. Those 12 points would have put us 
>> 5th, 1 point behind Leicester!
>> 
>> Mind you, I (personally) don't want European football yet. If we did I think 
>> we'd suffer in the same way Wolves have done by overachieving a bit too 
>> soon, without having the ability to bolster the squad in preparation for the 
>> 'rigours of success'
>> 
>> Anyway, enough of my bollocks, off back to lurkdom! TTFN
>> 
>> StigOfTheMusingDump
>> 
>>> 
 Yes I would agree with that. But to point out poor performances from 
 players is OK I think as long as it it is reasonable (in tone I 
 mean.) Though TBH Michael Brown was effin shit
 
>>> 
>>> I think it's actually quite rare - this season at least - to be able 
>>> to spot an individually poor performance that cost us the match. 
>>> Meslier's fuckups at Arsenal (which he's not repeated), and Alioski 
>>> giving away the penalty against Brighton stand out*. But it's usually 
>>> been a collective issue - we've sat too deep and isolated Bamford, for 
>>> example; or Alioski and Harrison haven't combined well in attack.
>>> 
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Re: [LU] This is getting spooky

[Steve Gillen]

Any empty bags of Walkers crisps around?

> On 30 Jan 2021, at 15:10, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> Augury update:
> 
> First of all, I would like to inform you that when I said I had seen 4
> peacocks the other day, I only really saw two at first...I had to
> do a bit of sniffing around to see the other two.
> 
> And then on today's walkwe saw a magpie (making a right old
> racket)..I joked to my wife oooh, that must mean that Newcastle
> have scored ("as if!"), so we had a look and sure enough they were 1-0
> up...then we saw another oneOK, that'll be 2-0 for
> Newcastle then, unless we can find any discarded toffees about.
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Re: [LU] about Guy.

[Steve Gillen]

Agreed.

> On 29 Jan 2021, at 13:39, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Defo.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of john
> Sent: 28 January 2021 21:09
> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: [LU] about Guy.
> 
> I have had a lovely email from Kaye (Guy's pal) I want to send on all our 
> posts from the list to his family. Everyone OK about this?Will forward Kaye's 
> email tomorrow as am in Ulaam Bator at moment :-)BettySent from the passenger 
> seat of an imaginary Austin A40..
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Re: [LU] Mildly amusing

[Steve Gillen]

Hahahaha  very good...over 80's however would likely be singing about John 
Charles or Bobby Collins

> On 28 Jan 2021, at 11:11, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> I had an amusing thought today: If they start letting people who have been
> vaccinated back into the stadium, we might play in front of a crowd of
> 5,000 over-80s. That would be funny hearing them trying to build up some
> atmosphere...with songs like "Oh Allan Allan", and
> "U-N-I-T-E-D, United are the Team for me".and if they let
> visiting fans in, shouting to the crusties from Chelsea "You're gonna get
> your fucking heads kicked in!"
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Re: [LU] I hesitate to share this, but..............

[Steve Gillen]

"Which would you prefer with your roasties, leg or breast?"

> On 25 Jan 2021, at 17:36, Richard Naef  
> wrote:
> 
> Now I'm just worried about what happened to the 5th Peacock FFS.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Robert Heath
> Sent: 25 January 2021 16:34
> To: Leeds List 
> Subject: [LU] I hesitate to share this, but..
> 
> .this honestly was not planned, but the weather turned a bit cooler 
> on our walk today so we shortened the route, which took us through the very 
> same farmyard where I saw 5 peacocks the day before we smashed 5 past 
> Newcastleand I know that I am probably going to ruin my glorious 
> reputation as an augurer, but anywaythis time I saw FOUR peacocks.
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Re: [LU] I hesitate to share this, but..............

[Steve Gillen]

"I bow before the glorious prophet of Heath. His word has been spoken and his 
men in white will do his will."

I'm in Rob 👍

> On 25 Jan 2021, at 16:34, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> .this honestly was not planned, but the weather turned a bit cooler
> on our walk today so we shortened the route, which took us through the very
> same farmyard where I saw 5 peacocks the day before we smashed 5 past
> Newcastleand I know that I am probably going to ruin my
> glorious reputation as an augurer, but anywaythis time I saw
> FOUR peacocks.
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Re: [LU] Burnley

[Steve Gillen]

.”.maybe Burnley, knowing this, were doing a great job at covering every player 
in
that area who was trying to get open.but the fact was that just
about every one of his medium to long passes went to them”

Actually it seemed to me to be not just Meslier, too many cleared balls and 
often passes from outfield player were simply picked off by Burnley players, 
just bringing the pressure back on us again.

Frankly I thought it was a pretty awful desperate game, the sort that it is 
good to come out of with all three points, but let’s be honest, how many of us 
would have accepted a daw as a fair result? Maybe not even a draw, our penalty 
was not a penalty, well in my opinion, and their goal should have stood. 
Frankly we got the points by some piss poor refereeing and then hanging on by 
our fingernails.

The good to take from the game. We had the league specialists and playing and 
scoring from a dead ball against the worst performing team at corners and dead 
balls. Yet still we held them off.

So on to the Baggies. Let’s hope their new found form (a point from 
Liverpool)is not yet set in stone and we come back all guns blazing.

> On 28 Dec 2020, at 10:19, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> ..maybe
> Burnley, knowing this, were doing a great job at covering every player in
> that area who was trying to get open.but the fact was that just
> about every one of his medium to long passes went to them
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Re: [LU] 5-2!

[Steve Gillen]

Yes I was there... spent most of my time trying to get away from marauding toon 
fans

> On 17 Dec 2020, at 17:40, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> Was anybody else on the list at that match up at St. james's when we lost
> 5-2? It was the first game of Wilko's promotion season. Obviously, we
> bounced back from it, but it was a very disappointing day at the time.
> 
> So a 5-2 win now feels GOOD!
> 
> Rodrigo was magnificent! There were 2 touches of his that were
> out-of-this-world:
> 1. The header which hit the bar for the first goal. At first sight I
> thought he was just lucky the way it looped over the keeper, but the more I
> watch it the more I think he somehow, in the midst of that crowded box and
> while watching the ball come in from the right, saw or sensed that Darlow
> was just a couple of steps off his line and he deliberately looped it over
> him.
> 2. Before he set up and then scored his goal brilliantly, he was stood
> under a high dropping ball with 2 defenders right on him. I think the best
> almost any other player could hope for in that situation would be to jump
> and try to win a header and direct it to a teammate. But Rodrigo somehow
> arched his back enough to control the ball on his chest AND knock it away
> from both the defenders into just enough space that he could then fire the
> ball out to Jackie H. After that chest control, 5 touches later the ball
> was in the back of the net.
> 
> Another thingwhat a classic Bielsa moment it was when there
> were THREE players waiting in a socially distanced queue to get on the end
> of Pablo's pass for the 4th goal, with nary a Newcastle shirt in sight!
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Re: [LU] 5 wins

[Steve Gillen]

No it’s my fault. I didn’t wear my Leeds shirt. If I do they seem to fade 
badly. Against Villa and tonight I was in plain clothes. I claim the win.

> On 16 Dec 2020, at 20:03, Alec McQueen  wrote:
> 
> It is games like this against teams in the lower half of the table that 
> suggest we will be OK. 5 wins now, with only 5 more to get. We will get 
> there. 
> 
> Great result after a disappointingly lean run. I know it’s only Newcastle, 
> but these are the teams we must beat, and we did it handsomely. 
> 
> I claim the victory was caused by me. I joined the BBC text coverage at 2-2, 
> and within 15 minutes we were 5-2 up. All mine. 
> Cheers
> Alec
> 
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Re: [LU] the return to ER

[Steve Gillen]

Tomorrows game is being shown on Amazon Prime..

> On 15 Dec 2020, at 15:05, nattan--- via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
>  It will be interesting to see what they do - Salford is in tier 3 so I may 
> not be eligible depending on if we are down graded too but in my “ friends 
> group” for the ballot are people from Leeds, Wakefield and Bradford so not 
> sure if they will separate usOn another note does anyone know which 
> broadcaster is showing the Newcastle game tomorrow?
> DavePs a scum ST holder mate of mine said they were invited to apply via 
> ballot for a ticket for our game onSunday in case the tier is changed ( not 
> sure why but he declined )
>On Tuesday, 15 December 2020, 14:04:37 GMT, Steve Gillen 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I’m with you all the way guys. It IS more important. Sadly, Boris being a 
> troglodyte of the first order, does not understand these things and so 
> Bradford based Leeds fans (or any other area which means travelling into or 
> through a tier 3 area) would be out of luck.
> 
>> On 15 Dec 2020, at 10:54, paul.tweney  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Nah, it's more important than that... ;-)
>> 
>> Maverick 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Peter Castlehouse 
>> Date: 15/12/2020 10:49 (GMT+00:00)
>> To: 'Steve Gillen' , 'Steve Mosley' 
>> 
>> Cc: 'leeds list' 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] the return to ER
>> 
>> Well, that's a stupid answer Steve - of course it's a matter of life and 
>> death innit?
>> 
>> Coat on...
>> Pete C
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Steve Gillen
>> Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 9:41 PM
>> To: Steve Mosley 
>> Cc: leeds list 
>> Subject: Re: [LU] the return to ER
>> 
>> If they are in Tier 3 they are NOT allowed to travel to a Tier 2 area unless 
>> a matter of life and death (which of course does not include beer or 
>> football however much you might consider it USA natter of life or death.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] the return to ER

[Steve Gillen]

I’m with you all the way guys. It IS more important. Sadly, Boris being a 
troglodyte of the first order, does not understand these things and so Bradford 
based Leeds fans (or any other area which means travelling into or through a 
tier 3 area) would be out of luck.

> On 15 Dec 2020, at 10:54, paul.tweney  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nah, it's more important than that... ;-)
> 
> Maverick 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Peter Castlehouse 
> Date: 15/12/2020 10:49 (GMT+00:00)
> To: 'Steve Gillen' , 'Steve Mosley' 
> 
> Cc: 'leeds list' 
> Subject: Re: [LU] the return to ER
> 
> Well, that's a stupid answer Steve - of course it's a matter of life and 
> death innit?
> 
> Coat on...
> Pete C
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Steve Gillen
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2020 9:41 PM
> To: Steve Mosley 
> Cc: leeds list 
> Subject: Re: [LU] the return to ER
> 
> If they are in Tier 3 they are NOT allowed to travel to a Tier 2 area unless 
> a matter of life and death (which of course does not include beer or football 
> however much you might consider it USA natter of life or death.
> 
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Re: [LU] the return to ER

[Steve Gillen]

If they are in Tier 3 they are NOT allowed to travel to a Tier 2 area unless a 
matter of life and death (which of course does not include beer or football 
however much you might consider it USA natter of life or death.

> On 15 Dec 2020, at 10:20, Steve Mosley  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nick,
> 
> It's in the gift of the club arranging the ticket distribution, however as 
> the guidance for those in T3 areas is both that (a) travel should be avoided 
> apart from essential reasons and that (b) travel out of a T3 area into 
> another area should be done only if unavoidable, I can't imagine the club 
> selecting anyone from a T3 area.
> 
> Having heard fans and club staff interviewed over the past few matches in 
> other areas, they are only inviting into the raffle those within a very close 
> proximity of the stadium.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Steve.
> 
> On 15/12/2020, 10:13, "Leedslist on behalf of Nick" 
>  wrote:
> 
>Seeking advice from the worldly-wise (or you lot).
> 
>As a return to ER is beginning to be mooted in the press (“Leeds may soon 
> be in Tier 2…”) I have a question: is it where the club is or where the fan 
> lives that determines whether you can get in the draw for a ticket?
> 
>Because even if ER is in T2, at least two of our regular ST crew live in 
> pretty solid T3 areas…would they be allowed in even if they did win the draw? 
> 
>Nick 
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Re: [LU] Trophy

[Steve Gillen]

I believe  the trophy is indeed the old first division trophy 

> On 18 Jul 2020, at 15:25, Damian Walsh  wrote:
> 
> Cue the pub quiz question "Who is the only club to be concurrently twice,
> the last Football League Champions"?
> 
> damian
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:00 PM Robert Heath 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Am I right in thinking that the trophy we are going to get will be the very
>> same one I saw us parading around Elland Road in 1969 after we beat Forest
>> with a Johnny Giles goal to win the league with a (then) record number of
>> points.and the same one Wilko's boys were pictured with in
>> 1992?
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Re: [LU] Champions!

[Steve Gillen]

But we did play All season long, that's why we have 87 points,  we just 
didn't play today that's all.

> On 18 Jul 2020, at 14:29, Chris Nickson  wrote:
> 
> Well, Huddersfield got us up, and Stoke made us champions. Can get used to
> this not playing and winning stuff!
> 
> -- 
> Writer-in-residence, Abbey House Museum, Leeds
> "Nickson stands in the front rank of historical mystery writers."
> Publishers Weekly
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Re: [LU] David Brennan

[Steve Gillen]

I too am very sad to hear this bad news. Dave was a stalwart of the list when I 
first joined and he was more than just one of the names, he took the trouble to 
post and not only that, made it interesting. RIP Dave mate

> On 25 Jun 2020, at 19:44, Gav Burnage via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't find the words to say what this horrible news is doing to me right
> now, but maybe the tears say enough about this man whose generous
> friendship came my way simply because of Leeds United and this
> extraordinary email list.
> 
> He was funny and irreverent, much more clever than he liked to admit, and
> kind and big hearted with it. Saying he was sociable is a bit of an
> understatement; he got on with just about everyone at just about any time.
> 
> Saying "husband and father" doesn't come close either: he absolutely adored
> Kate, and being married to her, and he absolutely loved Bradley and Sidney,
> and being a full-on dad to them too (he usually preferred being called
> David, but the email sign off proudly changed to Dadiv and Double
> Dadiv after the boys arrived.) I am praying so hard for the three of you.
> 
> Dull match days (and good match days) on Row O in the top left of the kop
> were all the better for having David around, singing shouting swearing and
> chatting. He thoughtfully bought me a hip flask so we could all take turns
> in matchday refuelling duties, and the best matchdays also involved the
> Pudsey Special bus, a takeaway form the Bismillah, and some family time in
> front of the telly (and the cats).
> 
> You didn't care much for religion, David; but then (and how I wish you'd
> understood) I don't either.
> 
> May you rest in peace – and rise in glory
> 
> Love,
> Gav
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Re: [LU] Leeds hawaiian shirt

[Steve Gillen]

Very nice, only if you are a small size. All over are out of stock - shame...

> On 7 May 2020, at 13:13, Mark Tuffey  wrote:
> 
> I'm desperately looking for this shirt 
> (https://shop.leedsunited.com/SHIR19003) in large or medium. The online club 
> shop is out of stock. Can anyone check the onsite club shop for me:-)
> 
> Cheers
> Mark
> HAWAIIAN PRINT SHIRT - Leeds United FC 
> Online
> Orders are despatched 3-5 working days from placing your order. Once your 
> order is on it's way please allow 10 working days for UK delivery and 28 days 
> for International delivery.
> shop.leedsunited.com
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Re: [LU] How many.........

[Steve Gillen]

I have two, only one in the fridge though

I fully expect to open both before too long

> On 2 May 2020, at 17:11, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> ...other bottles of champagne are sitting forlornly in fridges
> still when they were put in to be pulled out today?
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Re: [LU] Happy Birthday anyone?

[Steve Gillen]

Well it's also my wife Paula's 70th today So I am celebrating two at 
once 👍🎂

> On 17 Oct 2019, at 22:44, Tim Leslie  wrote:
> 
> leeds United AFC. 100 Years old today! no-one interested?!?
> 
> Here’s to 100 more years of ...
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Re: [LU] Things that make you feel old

[Steve Gillen]

I still cannot stand to see Keane on TV as a pundit. He cannot be forgiven for 
what he did to Alfie 

> On 18 Sep 2019, at 08:34, Joe Skinner  wrote:
> 
> Alf inge Haland’s son scored a hat trick in the CL last night...
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Re: [LU] Now we know

[Steve Gillen]

Agreed... the defender (I can’t remember now who) should have kicked it into 
row Z of th sand if necessary with the goalkeepers head too.  Goalkeeper? He 
seems to be almost anywhere except between the sticks.

Deeply disappointed about tonight

> On 15 May 2019, at 21:59, John Lee via Leedslist  wrote:
> 
> Why Casilla left Madrid! Should never play for us again!
> 
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Re: [LU] was there a game today?

[Steve Gillen]

Easy way?? No you’re right there. At the end when all results were in, I was 
like a fish out of water gasping for air and desperately in need of Rum (or 
vodka).

Feeling ok now, I should be fine after a few drinks and a couple of packets of 
fags.

... until next week when we do it all again!

> On 30 Mar 2019, at 17:15, Simon McNally  wrote:
> 
> I’m on my way from ER to A and E to plug myself into an ECG!
> For the bulk of the game I thought we’d blown it.
> Really really need a drink 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2019, at 17:02, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Never ever do it the easy way do we?
>> 
>> Very jealous of those at ER today.
>> 
>> ttfn
>> 
>> Richard
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Re: [LU] Spygate might end up costly

[Steve Gillen]

Thanks for that Pete... Yes I'm still around, and reading all contributions...

> On 16 Jan 2019, at 10:31, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
> 
> Out of lurkdom...
> 
> No UK laws have been broken, no 'terms and conditions of being in the EFL' 
> have been contravened...
> 
> The FA have no jurisdiction in the matter.FFS let's all buy a set of 
> binoculars...
> 
> Btw, nice to see ya still alive and kicking Steve Gillen lol
> 
> OzPete 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist  On Behalf Of Rayson Seow
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2019 7:15 PM
> To: Steve Gillen ; David Smail 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Spygate might end up costly
> 
> A precedence has been set. So let's hope it's being followed and nothing more.
> RaysonSingapore Whites
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Re: [LU] Spygate might end up costly

[Steve Gillen]

But surely this is not a precident as no information was leaked, and what was 
viewed was from a public place and no laws were broken.

> On 16 Jan 2019, at 08:15, Rayson Seow  wrote:
> 
> A precedence has been set. So let's hope it's being followed and nothing more.
> 
> Rayson
> Singapore Whites
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> 
> ---- Original message 
> From: Steve Gillen 
> Date: 16/01/2019 16:03 (GMT+08:00)
> To: David Smail 
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] Spygate might end up costly
> 
> I would be very disappointed if LUFC didn't start legal action against any 
> disproportionate penalty, in particular points deduction. Nothing illegal was 
> done, no damage was caused to property or trespassing. So any penalty could 
> be argued to be illegal and grossly unfair. If it is so important that this 
> is secret training then it should be behind closed doors or high fences, if 
> not the are not Derby partially culpable for not guarding their so called 
> secrets?
> 
> > On 16 Jan 2019, at 07:18, David Smail  wrote:
> > 
> > It seems as though we have few friends in official League and FA corridors.
> > Although lots of talk and humour around this, it could end up as a points
> > deduction or another serious sanction.
> > 
> > I find it hard to believe that somebody with MB's experience would think
> > that this was okay to do and turn away from "When in Rome" or even seek
> > advice first. is there anything else going on here behind the scenes?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We shall see, but I'm leaning towards a disproportionate  sentence.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
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Re: [LU] Spygate might end up costly

[Steve Gillen]

I would be very disappointed if LUFC didn't start legal action against any 
disproportionate penalty, in particular points deduction. Nothing illegal was 
done, no damage was caused to property or trespassing. So any penalty could be 
argued to be illegal and grossly unfair. If it is so important that this is 
secret training then it should be behind closed doors or high fences, if not 
the are not Derby partially culpable for not guarding their so called secrets?

> On 16 Jan 2019, at 07:18, David Smail  wrote:
> 
> It seems as though we have few friends in official League and FA corridors.
> Although lots of talk and humour around this, it could end up as a points
> deduction or another serious sanction.
> 
> I find it hard to believe that somebody with MB's experience would think
> that this was okay to do and turn away from "When in Rome" or even seek
> advice first. is there anything else going on here behind the scenes?
> 
> 
> 
> We shall see, but I'm leaning towards a disproportionate  sentence.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Millwall

[Steve Gillen]

I'm pretty sure Middlesborough would have snapped up a similar result 
themselves. The Don always used to say the mark of a great team is not that 
they always ride over every other team but how they hang on and prepared to 
slog it out when they are clearly not playing near at their best. Of course I 
would have preferred a win but I'll surely take the draw today.

> On 15 Sep 2018, at 19:22, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep and I'm happy with that but did you see the game today ? Dreadful.
> 
>> On 15 Sep 2018, at 18:44, Richard Naef  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Reality? We are top of the fucking league.  We have a manager who in 2 
>> months has done more than the other god knows how many over the last 15 
>> years.
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile
>> 
>> 
>> From: Leedslist  on behalf of {broken-address} 
>> Richard Walker 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:11:20 PM
>> To: Leeds List; nat...@sky.com
>> Subject: Re: [LU] Millwall
>> 
>> Dave, we have to be real here, this was no masterstoke. Those last 5 minutes 
>> were embarassing. we didn't know how to cope and we didn't know what we were 
>> doing. Also, there's talk we are the fittest team in the league. No way, we 
>> were fucked.
>>   On Saturday, 15 September 2018, 17:02:13 BST, nat...@sky.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Frustrating or a master stroke from MB ? Rich ?
>> 
>> Also watched on a dodgy stream - on 85 mins I whatsapp'd my mates and said 
>> even though it would be the same end result as last year it was a much 
>> better performance and no reason for it to collapse our season - we have not 
>> been 'found out'
>> Then clutching at straws I said there would be lots of time added on but 
>> that we would not score ! 10 seconds later - Harrison thrown up front gets 
>> the goal
>> Having said that how the f8ck we survived the last couple of minutes I do 
>> not know - we would not have got a point in this game in the past (and 
>> indeed we didn't)
>> So with Boro losing we are top on our own -even if only by one point- and 
>> have two winnable home games, if we play to our potential, even with the 
>> injuries we should beat Preston and Birmingham
>> Happy enough in the end
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> roberts off , harrison up front ???
>> this is so fucking frustrating
>> 
>>   On Saturday, 15 September 2018, 16:22:14 BST, {broken-address} JONATHAN 
>> WYNNE  wrote:
>> 
>> Please let us just grab a point and get the hell out of there.
>> 
>>   On Saturday, 15 September 2018, 16:15, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> long fucking throwing ... say no more.
>>   On Saturday, 15 September 2018, 15:54:23 BST, {broken-address} Richard 
>> Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Watching on dodgy internet link.
>> what a pile of shite. I think the best thing I could say is that they're 
>> certainly not bullying us out of it mainly cos they are shit. Long throws as 
>> per Boro are their main tactic.
>> we've tried to play but the obsession with passing it around at the back has 
>> caused our main problems. the players aren't good enough to play that game 
>> under pressure in a game like this.
>> We've created little , the best chance falling to Roberts just before 
>> half-time when he ran for a ball, he was second best to win it but it fell 
>> for him and he placed it towards the goal but it hit hte keeper and didn't 
>> have the pace. Not surprisingly Roberts has looked a tad lightweight but 
>> he's had no service. Harrison has hardly touched the ball in their half.
>> Allioski has made some good runs but guess what ? everytime off-side. Wish 
>> he would grow some brain cells.
>> Difficult to call this one, but I suspect one of their long throws wll 
>> eventually fall on Morrisons head. Just hope we can score at the other end. 
>> We have defended well at times with Jansson and Cooper.
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Re: [LU] Paul Madeley

[Steve Gillen]

Oh dear oh dear no

Very sad for such an icon to be lost... RIP

> On 23 Jul 2018, at 21:39, John Boocock  wrote:
> 
> Sadly no longer with us :-(
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[LU] LU: support for depressed fans

[Steve Gillen]

I've just heard on the news that Lincoln City are starting a mental health 
programmer to help fans who may be suffering from depression and/or anxiety. 
Good for them, but surely LIFC should be doing this too,  as I can't think of a 
group of fans anywhere who don't find themselves as depressed as we (regularly) 
do! During the matches the anxiety levels could fill the stadium many times 
over.

Joking apart, good for you Lincoln, any approach to help people who suffer from 
this mostly invisible problem is a step forward.

Steve G
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Re: [LU] "expensive stunt"?

[Steve Gillen]

Tennis Balls?

When did you become Henry V?  :-)

On 15 February 2016 at 11:48, Andy Clayton
 wrote:

 That's an awful lot of tennis balls.

 Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 15 Feb 2016, at 11:34, Ted  wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 February 2016 Nick wrote:
> >>
> >>   anyone any idea what this is all about?
> >>
> >>   [1]
>
http://www.thescratchingshed.com/2016/02/expensive-stunt-planned-
for
> >>   -middlesbrough-game/
> >
> >
> >
> > A few on Waccoe have organised it.  They asked "us" to
chip-in and 
> > trust them to deliver without disclosing any details so as
not to 
> > forewarn the club etc.
> >
> > No details are known except that it will be visible, will not
affect 
> > the players, it is not illegal, it will not cause any danger.

> > Apparently
> they
> > have been in touch with Sky.
> >
> > The "appeal" started in Fri evening and by saturday morning
they'd 
> > raised 3.5-4K.  Not bad!
> >
> >
> > I was going to give the game a miss after our last few home
games 
> > but now because of this (& contributing) I'm going to go!
> >
> > We've got to try something to let him know how we feel.
> >
> > MOT
> >
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Re: [LU] Happy Xmas and an Evans New Year!

[Steve Gillen]

I didn’t know that so I am corrected and add that to my wishes also,

 

From: beden...@gmail.com [mailto:beden...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dr Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 24 December 2015 17:35
To: Steve Gillen 
Cc: Nigel ; LEEDSLIST 
Subject: RE: [LU] Happy Xmas and an Evans New Year!

 

Next year.
Yesterday was Mohammed's birthday. You missed that too. 
Keep well.
Michael

On 24 Dec 2015 6:05 p.m., "Steve Gillen" mailto:steve.gil...@ntlworld.com> > wrote:

And a happy Chanukah to you and yours Michael..

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Subject: Re: [LU] Happy Xmas and an Evans New Year!

Happy Xmas


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On 24 December 2015 at 14:37, Nigel Goodman mailto:freofra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> Add my felicitations ….
>   MOT
> > On 24 Dec 2015, at 7:12 pm, Roy Blackwell  > <mailto:rd25...@googlemail.com> >
> wrote:
> >
> > And from me
> > On 24 Dec 2015 11:09, "Simon McNally"  > <mailto:simon_mcna...@sky.com> > wrote:
> >
> >> And from me too!
> >>
> >> MOT
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> On 24 Dec 2015, at 09:58, Richard Naef <
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> >> wrote:
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> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [LU] Happy Xmas and an Evans New Year!

[Steve Gillen]

And a happy Chanukah to you and yours Michael..

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Happy Xmas


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> Add my felicitations ….
>   MOT
> > On 24 Dec 2015, at 7:12 pm, Roy Blackwell 
> wrote:
> >
> > And from me
> > On 24 Dec 2015 11:09, "Simon McNally"  wrote:
> >
> >> And from me too!
> >>
> >> MOT
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 24 Dec 2015, at 09:58, Richard Naef <
> rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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Re: [LU] Biggest away support? Not any more, thanks to Massimo...

[Steve Gillen]

Personally I don't agree That would be taking away the good
name of wanking!

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{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 16 October 2015 23:05
To: Ian Murray 
Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Biggest away support? Not any more, thanks to
Massimo...

Yep totally agree on this one.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Ian Murray
 wrote:
> 
> What a wanker.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Oct 2015, at 07:23, Richard walker
 wrote:
>> 
>> Unbelievable !
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 15:58, Nigel Sykes 
wrote:
>>> 
>>> So - Cellino has spat the dummy out over the loss of revenue
due to 
>>> televised home games.  And decided to protest by imposing a
limit of 
>>> 2,000 tickets for OUR fans on away days!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What a complete arsehole!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Full story here:
>>>
http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/hjw98zuz9meq1ahw9h4xa0jei
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nigel
>>> 
>>> (the Dublin one)
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

[Steve Gillen]

Done

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Behalf Of Chris Briggs
Sent: 12 June 2015 13:49
To: Richard Naef
Cc: leeds list
Subject: Re: [LU] [NON-LU] Blatant publicising

Thanks. I also have some other stuff on that Facebook thingy -
https://www.facebook.com/chrisbriggspoet

This one was one I didn't swear in, then again I couldn't given that I
filmed it in a hurry on Worcester High St in between people walking past.

I wrote one about Sepp Blatter 3 days before he resigned, I like to take
credit for his resignation. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Jun 2015, at 1:33 pm, Richard Naef 
wrote:
> 
> Done,
> 
> 
> 
> Delectation - Mastication-  excellent!
> 
> 
> 
> good luck!  
> 
> 
> 
> ttfn
> 
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Re: [LU] Start again FIFA

[Steve Gillen]

Oh, and take Bayern Munich from the record book and replace them with Leeds
(should have been done years ago)

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Sent: 28 May 2015 06:48
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Start again FIFA

If major footballing completion location awards have been made under an
umbrella of corruption and lies then the results of such should be deemed
void.
If all this has substance and can be proved, then FIFA has to be sanitised
then a restart process should be established to see which venues are
selected on a level playing pitch. Ahem. What a mess. Alternatively, disband
the shamed FIFA and expose how long this has been going on for.
 
Qatar, you can tools down for now, although what a tragic waste of human
life in the meantime - thanks FIFA (The Official World Governing Authority) 
 
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Re: [LU] LU: "Does Redfearn love Leeds more than me?", asks Cellino

[Steve Gillen]

It's the mirror, of course it's bollox, everything they've ever writing is
crap

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Alec McQueen
Sent: 17 May 2015 04:29
To: Ed Morrish
Cc: list leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] LU: "Does Redfearn love Leeds more than me?", asks Cellino

Blimey! I hope it's Mirror bollox.

Cheers
Alec

> On 17 May 2015, at 8:42 am, Ed Morrish  wrote:
> 
> Leeds to sack Neil Redfearn because owner Massimo Cellino says 'weak'
manager turned the fans against HIM - Mirror Online 
> 
> Yes, Massimo. Yes, he does.
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Re: [LU] Is this real?

[Steve Gillen]

I wouldn't buy one, but equally I wouldn't be offended by one, as long as that 
despicable rag didn't print anything about it

-Original Message-
From: Peter Doherty [mailto:forzale...@aol.com] 
Sent: 18 February 2015 16:29
To: 'David Brennan'; Leedslist; Steve Gillen
Subject: Re: [LU] Is this real?

The vendor in question is an old mate of mine who would happily get a Leeds Man 
U "brothers on the M62" scarf made up, if people would by it! 
Sent from my Sony Xperia  smartphone

 Steve Gillen wrote 

>Oh it's real enough Dave, but I won't be even considering it, let alone 
>looking at it - look what shower of shit are writing about it?
>
>If "they" are involved , and by they I certainly don't mean those nice 
>east London boys (compared to the other lot that's what they are) then 
>it is of no possible good for Leeds, they have proved this far to often 
>in the past and I for one, will never forgive them
>
>-Original Message-
>From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
>[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of David Brennan
>Sent: 16 February 2015 11:25
>To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>Subject: [LU] Is this real?
>
>
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/leeds-v-mill
>wall-new-low-5162927
>
>Are these scarves real, or is it a PhotoShop gag?
>
>DRB
>
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[LU] LU: is it me or is there a game or something?

[Steve Gillen]

Quiet ere innit?
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Re: [LU] Is this real?

[Steve Gillen]

Oh it's real enough Dave, but I won't be even
considering it, let alone looking at it - look
what shower of shit are writing about it?

If "they" are involved , and by they I certainly
don't mean those nice east London boys (compared
to the other lot that's what they are) then it is
of no possible good for Leeds, they have proved
this far to often in the past and I for one, will
never forgive them

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
David Brennan
Sent: 16 February 2015 11:25
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Is this real?


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/leeds-v-mill
wall-new-low-5162927

Are these scarves real, or is it a PhotoShop gag?

DRB


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Re: [LU] Non-LU: Facebook and Twitter

[Steve Gillen]

Facebook I use a lot - Twitter I have, but haven't
got the point of it

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Peter Castlehouse
Sent: 07 February 2015 08:27
To: leedslist
Subject: [LU] Non-LU: Facebook and Twitter

Who on the list does NOT have access, or refuses
to use either of these?

Just a question

 

Pete C

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Re: [LU] FA Cup

[Steve Gillen]

The only thing I am pleased with Bradford winning
is a guy I know at work hade a 40p treble running
on 3 outside chances (one of which was Bradford of
course) - they all won and he raked in £720 for
his 40p stake - now for him I am pleased - as for
Bradford themselves - I couldn't care less..

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Phill Shields
Sent: 26 January 2015 18:15
To: Roy Blackwell; David Brennan
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] FA Cup

I'm sure Bradford fans would wish us well in
similar circumstances, yeah right.

> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:59:39 +
> From: rd25...@googlemail.com
> To: d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk
> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] FA Cup
> 
> As long as we do better,  I agree
> 
> Well done Bradford
> On 26 Jan 2015 12:42, "David Brennan"
 wrote:
> 
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:32:26 +
> > > From: Nick 
> > > To: leeds list 
> > > Subject: [LU] FA Cup
> > >
> > > ...and no one wants to congratulate
Bradford?? Well then I will. 
> > > Their
> > win
> > > betters ours vs Man U a few years ago.
> >
> > I know it's popular to dislike the teams local
to your own (usually 
> > the small teams disliking the big teams) but
I would like to see 
> > all Yorkshire teams prosper over non-Yorkshire
teams.
> >
> > A premier league with Leeds winning, followed
by Doncaster, 
> > Wednesday and Huddersfield qualifying for
Champions League places I would be happy to see.
> >
> > So I agree Nick, well done Bradford.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] Happy Christmas and All The Best for The New Year

[Steve Gillen]

And the very greatest Yuletide Felicitations to
all my friends and cyber friends on this list - I
may not have said it in so many words before - but
you guys mean a great deal more to me than any of
you could possibly know.

I am proud to list you all amongst my friends

Hope you had/are having a great day

Steve & Paula Gillen


.-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Ian Murray
Sent: 25 December 2014 10:39
To: John Boocock
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Happy Christmas and All The Best
for The New Year

Merry Christmas!

All the best to all Listers and their families.

I've made the pilgrimage to Yorkshire and will be
at the match tomorrow. 

Is anyone looking for a ticket for Derby as I
don't think I'm gonna be able to make it.

MOT

Ian

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Dec 2014, at 10:04, John Boocock
 wrote:
> 
> All the best from a very sunny Banbury, let's
hope 2015 sees an end to the bizarrre happenings
of the past decade or so (in my dreams).
> 
> Betty
> (About to leave LOTSA for good)
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Re: [LU] Steve Gillen

[Steve Gillen]

Mea Culpa

John is quite correct I am around but simply have
had no time (or much inclination) to trek upstairs
to the mail computer to indulge in the list
(Paula's computer is downstairs so when I was in
hospital. she could pretty much write updates
fairly comfortably). I have been on facebook using
my phone to be honest.

Well as you know I was rushed into hospital
unconscious and suffering from what I am now told
was/is Toxic shock syndrome and I was in an
induced coma for nearly 4 weeks, during which time
I am told I was a breath away for totally cashing
my chips in (dying) - my liver and kidneys closed
down and my heart was wavering. I had multiple
infections, but the main one would not react to
most antibiotics. All credit to the medical staff,
they put me on temporary dialysis and somehow
figured out what I had - apparently its ladies who
mostly get this, though men and children can also
get it -0 they also got me started on the long
road back. Eventually they brought me out of the
coma then after a while I went from the ICU to the
high dependency Unit and then to a ward where I
was in Isolation and on then to a normal ward. The
last 2/3 weeks were spent in a nearby care home in
what is termed as a "Kick Bed" (Strange as I
couldn't have kicked a balloon at the time)
working with Physios - I learned that everything
they showed on last week's Panorama is not just
confined to those 2 homes featured. to learn to
walk again and use my hands (another reason I have
not been on much, it hurts my fingertips to type)
as my muscles had atrophied when in a coma and not
being used. Progress is definitely happening, but
frustratingly slow. I can now walk short distances
around the home, my writing is crap as there is no
strength in my hands and my fingers are constantly
sore. I have ulcerous wounds on my lower left leg
which require dressing by the district nurses at
least every 2 days - soon to be every day for a
week which they try compression dressings. I have
passed a test for me to drive as we have an
automatic, but I am really sparing with this as I
don't feel entirely safe for other road users.

Just to complicate matters Paula hurt her foot
treading on some glass and the wound got infected
and worsened and she has now been in hospital for
the past week and has had her right big toe
amputated! We expect her to still be in for up to
the next 7 days (Visiting her at the LGI is the
sparing use of the car I mentioned - thankfully we
have a mobility scooter and hoist in the car so I
can get around the hospital) - even the cat has a
kidney problem and has to have medication daily!

>From all of this you can probably see why I have
not been around, but from this believe me I am
keeping up as best I can and am always checking
the results however I can. I apologise for not
telling you all this earlier (Sorry Guy)

I will be properly back, but it may take until
next month yet .

Best wishes and grateful thanks for your care and
concern all

Steve Gillen (a lifelong, and hopefully much
longer, Leeds United fan)

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Guy Thornton
Sent: 05 May 2014 18:47
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Steve Gillen

Haven't posted for some time, don't suppose
anyone's noticed but then things have been so
depressing I suspect others didn't feel like
posting as well. However the principle for reason
for the lack of posting has been (another) period
of incarceration in hospital and it's been enough
of a problem trying to keep up with things and
access mail and the internet, never mind actively
mailing.

All of which leeds me to the purpose of this mail.
Before I went into hospital I had seen the news
about Steve and Paula's mails updating us on his
condition. In fact one of my last mails to the
list was a reply to one of Paula's posts. However
I haven't seen anything for some time. As I've
missed a lot of list mail as well this is probably
not surprising but can anyone update on Steve and
how he and Paula are?

Guy


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[LU] Steve Gillen

[Steve Gillen]

Hello Leeds List,

I am not sure how to contact you all so hopefully
this will get about.  My name is Paula Gillen, My
husband Steve is a part of your group. I wanted to
tell you that Steve is in ICU in very, very
critical condition.  He has infections that the
doctors cannot identify that are attacking his
body and are trying to find an antibiotic(s) that
will be able to kill it. So far they are only
managing barely to keep him from dying.  He is on
dialysis and has been put into an induced coma and
is on a ventilator. They are doing everything they
can.  My email address is pgil...@ntlworld.com. I
have sent this email to my computer in case things
go horribly wrong and I can let you know. Please
keep him in your thought and prayers. Thank you,

Paula Gillen


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[LU] Non LU: British Humour at its best

[Steve Gillen]

 


For those who do not listen to the 'Today'
programme on Radio 4, this is English humour at
its best.

Right at the end of a programme recently, there
was a discussion about the obscene cost of entry
into Premiership football games, the cheapest
price of £60 and £100 per game is not uncommon.

An older chap being interviewed said he could
recall many years ago arriving at the turnstiles
(it was probably West Ham United): "That will be
ten quid, mate".
"What?!" the old chap said "I could get a woman
for that!"
 
The guy on the turnstile retorted, "Not for 45
minutes each way with a Marching brass band and a
meat pie in the interval, you wouldn't!"

 
   



 

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Re: [LU] NONLU: bloody hell.....

[Steve Gillen]

No.. I never said that - I simply said that as
those companies chose to sponsor a certain team
then I choose not to support their products - this
I was agreeing is a risk companies take if they
sponsor something which generates passionate
feelings in people - some you will over and others
will hate you for it.

Steve

From: ntbar...@gmail.com
[mailto:ntbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nigel
Barber
Sent: 21 January 2014 12:43
To: Steve Gillen
Cc: David Komadina; Leeds leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: bloody hell.

Do you really think Zoopla are withdrawing
sponsorship because of a single player's ambiguous
gesture? Sounds like a convenient excuse to save
cash to me.

On 21 January 2014 12:36, Steve Gillen
 wrote:
Very true... to this day I will have no truck with
any Sharp product or Vodaphone no matter how cheap
their products or services may be - I suspect a
number of other fans out there feel exactly the
same about those products too.


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Re: [LU] NONLU: bloody hell.....

[Steve Gillen]

Very true... to this day I will have no truck with
any Sharp product or Vodaphone no matter how cheap
their products or services may be - I suspect a
number of other fans out there feel exactly the
same about those products too.




-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
David Komadina
Sent: 21 January 2014 06:35
To: Leeds leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] NONLU: bloody hell.

With the big pay cheques professional sportsmen
collect also comes a big responsibility in that
they are the face of the club and continually they
forget that.

Zoopla pay a huge amount amount of money expecting
the advertising of their name to gain a beneficial
return. But if some idiot wearing their name
upsets their customers (even just a small
percentage) then its not money well spent from
their perspective.

And its not just the player's behavior in the
first place, if the press keeps the story alive
then Zoopla's name will continually be associated
with this act as the photo is continually
reprinted.


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Re: [LU] 2014

[Steve Gillen]

M   Mother
OOf
AAll
L List
M   Meets

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[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Dr Michael Benjamin
Sent: 12 January 2014 05:54
To: Leeds List
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] 2014

On 12 January 2014 01:19, Leeds List
 wrote:

> MOALM


 MOALM
Is what?



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Re: [LU] SF49

[Steve Gillen]

That was me remember? But I'm no kid sadly.

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Nicholas Armit
Sent: 10 January 2014 20:17
To: Mark; nat...@sky.com; leeds list
Subject: Re: [LU] SF49

I did see a kid here about 4 years ago with a
Leeds shirt on. I was well impressed. 



 From: Mark 
To: "nat...@sky.com" ; leeds list
 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] SF49
 

We're a basically a nobody when it comes to the
American market.  As uninformed as many American
sports/soccer fans are they all know Chelsea,
Manu, Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Shitty after
that...it drops off. When I mention Leeds I have
to explain who we are. We are almost on the same
level on transatlantic fame as Rochdale,
Gillingham, etc.
The gulf in fame and finances between us and the
top boys is massive.
Cheers
Mark 
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites 
Leeds United 
Chicago Fire



                          
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[LU] NON LU: Recommended Conveyancing Solicitor

[Steve Gillen]

HI Guys,

Just an off the wall shot, but does any of you
know (or possibly me be one yourself) a decent
local solicitor for conveyancing?

My wife Paula and I are about to purchase a
property and have no experience in these matters
at all and rather than stick a pin in the phone
book so to speak (Google really) I thought it may
be best to start with the fountain of all
knowledge, my friends on the list.

Any and all suggestions (printable ones that is)
would be gratefully received

Cheers

Steve & Paula Gillen

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Re: [LU] United Announce 49'ers Link Up

[Steve Gillen]

Wow!  I've been a 49'ers fan for years and years -
well since it started to be shown on UK TV in the
days when Joe Montana was the quarterback - so now
my favourite US team is allied with Leeds United
my only real sports interest - Am I a happy bunny
or what?

Go 9'ers

http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/8vmgq7nudn
8a14cgw95cezxe7/title/united-announce-49ers-link-u
p

Steve


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Re: [LU] merry xmas

[Steve Gillen]

Yup, a good deal of Michigan is down at the moment - both my sister in laws are 
relying on home generators as we speak - hope it gets better for you soon Nick

Seasonal Felicitations to all

Steve & Paula Gillen

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of Nicholas Armit
Sent: 25 December 2013 17:14
To: N H; leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] merry xmas

Stuck in a hotel for the last four days after a massive ice storm knocked all 
the power out across the town I live. Hope for three points tomorrow to improve 
my mood!

Merry Christmas,

Nick



 From: N H 
To: leedslist  
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] merry xmas
 

Merry Christmas and absent friends..MOT
Cheers



From: Verner Hanna (Jnr) 
To: Richard Naef ; leedslist 
 
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] merry xmas
� 

Doing the same.
Merry Christmas Buddy!

Verner

-Original Message-
From: "Richard Naef" 
Sent: ?25/?12/?2013 12:07
To: "Leeds leedslist" 
Subject: [LU] merry xmas

Merry Xmas, have a great day & raise a glass for absent friends



ttfn



Richard



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[LU] LU - John Grampa Sykes

[Steve Gillen]

I am so saddened by this news even I can hardly
believe it. I will miss John, despite the fact
that I never met him, but he always spoke with a
passion for Leeds United and a love of all things
Yorkshire and Leeds in particular. The world is a
lesser place for the loss of him. My sincerest
condolences to his family and real life friends.

RIP Mate until we are all reunited again and
Marching on Together...



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Re: [LU] NON-LU Spurious and Curious old abbreviations

[Steve Gillen]

NORWICH I know of but CHINA???

C'mon what's it mean?

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Briggs
Sent: 25 November 2013 12:34
To: Richard Naef
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] NON-LU Spurious and Curious old
abbreviations

My wife is a college lecturer and occasionally
sends the students out to do research or FOFO
(fuck off and find out) before the next lecture.
She used to be a nurse and there are hundreds, if
not thousands that relate to bodily functions.

NORWICH is a bit like CHINA.

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Nov 2013, at 11:23, "Richard Naef"
 wrote:

>> Threw some old abbreviations used on this list
at my family and 
>> friends -
> IIRC, IMHO and AFAIK - and they busted them
within ten minutes!
>> So, oldies on the list... recant on some
abbreviations (not 
>> necessarily
> list-related such as BOTL) that don't ordinarily
pop up on your smart 
> phones, and let's see if I >can bust the ten
minute marker for 
> stumping them?
>> Reports to follow on busting times J
> 
> fuck me Pete, when you are in charge of
entertainments those balmy 
> summer nights must just fly by..
> 
> still better than talking about the Cricket.
> 
> how about
> 
> ROTFL
> AFAICS
> GTBI
> WACCOE
> NORWICH
> WTFDTAM
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Re: [LU] is the list dead ??

[Steve Gillen]

Personally I have been on redecorating duty for
the past 5 days - or was it a decade? It certainly
feels like it - so I have hardly approached the
computer except in the dark of the night and by
then am too knackered to do much more than read
what everyone else has to say...

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it

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[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
Richard Naef
Sent: 25 November 2013 11:17
To: nat...@sky.com; 'leeds list'
Subject: Re: [LU] is the list dead ??




>We win 2 1 to make it into a play off place, over
30k turn up, Ross 
>scores
his 7th in 3 games, Marius makes his full home
debut, they get a red card, there is a big
>tribute to Gary Speed , BUT the list remains
silent ?

everybody's been trying to get Monty Python
tickets ;)

Only saw the snippet of the game on TV and read a
few reports, but I share you unease tbh, we're
getting results against weaker teams but we are
not a convincing promotion team, we've all got
remember that it's still work in progress and
accept the rough with the smooth.  All in all the
best thing so far has been the rise of Mowatt, so
that he's now an automatic pick for the first
team, lets hope BMcD brings on some more
youngsters.



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