Re: [LU] Marsch

[Scott1cairns1]

Love that rich 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 9 Feb 2023, at 10:29, Simon McNally via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> It was very telling that Klich and Pablo both liked the club’s insta post 
> that Marsch has been sacked!
> 
> Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
> From: Nicholas Armit 
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:22:39 PM
> To: Greg Adams ; Richard Walker 
> ; Leeds List ; Simon McNally 
> 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch
> 
> Surely not, they were "all in all the time"
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:18:22 AM EST, Simon McNally via Leedslist 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Reading between the lines they definitely did!
> 
> Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
> From: Leedslist 
> mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> on behalf 
> of Greg Adams mailto:g...@jitterbug.co.za>>
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:15:32 PM
> To: Richard Walker mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; 
> Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch
> 
> haha! That did cross my mind, but didn't want to say it first 
> 
>> On 09 Feb 2023 17:13, Richard Walker wrote:
>> Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?
>> 
>> 
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>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams
>> mailto:g...@jitterbug.co.za>> wrote:
>> 
>>   I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that
>>   none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm
>>   not on
>>   twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has
>>   anyone
>>   seen or heard of anything?
>> 
>>   If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say
>>   thanks or
>>   something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.
>> 
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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

It was very telling that Klich and Pablo both liked the club’s insta post that 
Marsch has been sacked!

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From: Nicholas Armit 
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:22:39 PM
To: Greg Adams ; Richard Walker 
; Leeds List ; Simon McNally 

Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch

Surely not, they were "all in all the time"

Nick

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:18:22 AM EST, Simon McNally via Leedslist 
 wrote:


Reading between the lines they definitely did!

Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: Leedslist 
mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> on behalf 
of Greg Adams mailto:g...@jitterbug.co.za>>
Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:15:32 PM
To: Richard Walker mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; 
Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch

haha! That did cross my mind, but didn't want to say it first 

On 09 Feb 2023 17:13, Richard Walker wrote:
> Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?
>
>
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>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams
> mailto:g...@jitterbug.co.za>> wrote:
>
>I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that
>none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm
>not on
>twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has
>anyone
>seen or heard of anything?
>
>If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say
>thanks or
>something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.
>
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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Surely not, they were "all in all the time"
Nick
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:18:22 AM EST, Simon McNally via 
Leedslist  wrote:  
 
 Reading between the lines they definitely did!

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Greg Adams 

Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:15:32 PM
To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch

haha! That did cross my mind, but didn't want to say it first 

On 09 Feb 2023 17:13, Richard Walker wrote:
> Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams
>  wrote:
>
>    I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that
>    none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm
>    not on
>    twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has
>    anyone
>    seen or heard of anything?
>
>    If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say
>    thanks or
>    something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.
>
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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

Reading between the lines they definitely did!

Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: Leedslist  on behalf of Greg Adams 

Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 3:15:32 PM
To: Richard Walker ; Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Marsch

haha! That did cross my mind, but didn't want to say it first 

On 09 Feb 2023 17:13, Richard Walker wrote:
> Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams
>  wrote:
>
> I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that
> none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm
> not on
> twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has
> anyone
> seen or heard of anything?
>
> If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say
> thanks or
> something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.
>
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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Greg Adams]

haha! That did cross my mind, but didn't want to say it first 

On 09 Feb 2023 17:13, Richard Walker wrote:

Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 



On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams 
 wrote:


I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that
none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm
not on
twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has
anyone
seen or heard of anything?

If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say
thanks or
something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.

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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Nick]

Reply made me laugh.

Nick

> On 9 Feb 2023, at 15:13, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> 
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams  
> wrote:
> 
> I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that 
> none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm not on 
> twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has anyone 
> seen or heard of anything?
> 
> If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say thanks or 
> something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.
> 
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Re: [LU] Marsch

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Maybe they all thought he was a cunt ?


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:11 pm, Greg Adams  wrote:

I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that 
none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm not on 
twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has anyone 
seen or heard of anything?

If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say thanks or 
something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.

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[LU] Marsch

[Greg Adams]

I just heard a someone on the Guardian podcast (Lucy Ward?) say that 
none of the players have sent Marsch any farewell messages. I'm not on 
twitter or the other messaging apps, so I can't verify this.  Has anyone 
seen or heard of anything?


If it is true, it would be very strange, as most players say thanks or 
something similarly anodyne.  Not sure what to make of it.


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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Torrey Gilday]

From Marsch's days at Salzburg, he mentions Bielsa/Leeds at about 8:20ish:
Link . From this presentation I can see the
tactical appeal, and some of the crossover between him and Bielsa.

Obviously, if Marsch can't get the players to follow his tactical ideas,
and doesn't get his team selection/subs right, that's on him.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 5:32 AM nattan--- via Leedslist <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

> We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to
> Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with
> an improved defence
> However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to
> play with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug
> the touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played
> through the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball)
> formation,  to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
> Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about
> transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then
> force them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
> The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or
> two passes to score.
> Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in
> open play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
> Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the
> polar opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the
> next decision "
> The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they
> do. Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more
> running  , generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does
> not seem enough to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of
> play.
> Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more
> years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will
> disappear overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct
> and if sack , make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always
> going to be  hard / impossible to replace but they appear to have got it
> very wrong
> Dave
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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Simon McNally via Leedslist]

Been saying the same things. I genuinely couldn’t tell you what Marsch’s style 
is. We try to play out from the back, with a few extremely high risk passes 
between defenders but because it’s not as slick as under Bielsa and there’s not 
as much off the ball movement (most of the time all our forwards are in a line 
at the half way line) the ball gets punted forward anyway.
Bamford/Rodrigo doesn’t win the header and the opposition are on the attack 
again.
We’re hopelessly narrow, really poor when we lose the ball high up field and 
unless something dramatic happens, sleepwalking towards relegation.

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of nattan--- via 
Leedslist 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 12:32:22 PM
To: leeds list 
Subject: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to 
Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with an 
improved defence
However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to play 
with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug the 
touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played through 
the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball) formation,  
to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about 
transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then force 
them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or two 
passes to score.
Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in open 
play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the polar 
opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the next 
decision "
The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they do. 
Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more running  , 
generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does not seem enough 
to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of play.
Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more 
years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will disappear 
overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct and if sack , 
make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always going to be  hard / 
impossible to replace but they appear to have got it very wrong
Dave
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Re: [LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[Ed Morrish]

I'd also add: watch Man City. One of the things that makes them so hard to
play against - aside from billions of petrodollars of blood money - is the
way they spread themselves across the pitch. Yes, three players will close
down the ball, but the rest hold positions ready to press the next person
the ball might go to. So Marsch has looked at the most effective side in
British football and thought, "let's do the opposite".

On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 12:32, nattan--- via Leedslist 
wrote:

> We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to
> Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with
> an improved defence
> However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to
> play with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug
> the touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played
> through the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball)
> formation,  to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
> Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about
> transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then
> force them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas.
> The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or
> two passes to score.
> Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in
> open play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
> Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the
> polar opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the
> next decision "
> The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they
> do. Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more
> running  , generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does
> not seem enough to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of
> play.
> Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more
> years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will
> disappear overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct
> and if sack , make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always
> going to be  hard / impossible to replace but they appear to have got it
> very wrong
> Dave
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[LU] Marsch v Bielsa

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

We were discussing pre match how come Marsch was seen as the successor to 
Bielsa. The claim from  the club was it would be a natural progression with an 
improved defence 
However when we started analysing things it is different.  Bielsa loved to play 
with wingers, at least one of them ( often Harrison) would always hug the 
touchline and was an easy 'out ball' , Marsch wants everything played through 
the middle and in a narrow (  " penis" - copyright the square ball) formation,  
to quote jesss " the goals are in the middle of the pitch"
Bielsa was all about possession and keeping the ball  Marsch is all about 
transition and turn over, letting the opposition have the ball and then force 
them into errors / giving the ball up in dangerous areas. 
The perfect Bielsa goal is after 10 or more passes, Marsch wants one or two 
passes to score.
Bielsa all about man marking , Marsch all zonal, both at set pieces and in open 
play, all move to the side of the pitch where the ball is.
Bielsa was all about integrity and never moaning at refs - Marsch the polar 
opposite,  get in the refs face and 'bully them into giving you the next 
decision "
The only thing their teams had in common was the amount of running they do. 
Under Bielsa and Marsch our players cover more ground and do more running  , 
generally speaking,  than the opposition.  This one factor does not seem enough 
to make Jesse the natural successor in terms of style of play.
Whatever, they need to make the correct decision now or we are facing more 
years in the doldrums ( our 20,000 season ticket waiting list will disappear 
overnight if relegated) They need to get " sack or back" correct and if sack , 
make the right choice in replacing him. Bielsa was always going to be  hard / 
impossible to replace but they appear to have got it very wrong 
Dave 
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