Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Good I like this loan, maybe it will become permanent, young keeper, prefer taking him over Gomes Jeremy > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:58:57 + > From: nat...@sky.com > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: [LU] Jack Butland > > I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season > Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for > Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end of > the season > > I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great > saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc is > a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season > > Dave > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. Kenny injured. We've also signed a young Irish striker. > On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: > > I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season > Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for > Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end of > the season > > I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great > saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc is > a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season > > Dave > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want to sell anyway. Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. MOT (without Kenny) Phill > From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + > To: nat...@sky.com > CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland > > Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him > back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. > Kenny injured. > > We've also signed a young Irish striker. > > > On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: > > > > I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season > > Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for > > Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end of > > the season > > > > I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great > > saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc > > is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season > > > > Dave > > ___ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > > Rest In Peace old lad > > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for the most part shit. Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" wrote: > > I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost Stoke > £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want to sell > anyway. > > Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big lad, > good presence in the area and great reflexes. > > Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury was > known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, home > to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock (eg > Yeovil) and starts laughing? > > He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. > > MOT (without Kenny) > > Phill > >> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >> To: nat...@sky.com >> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >> >> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him >> back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. >> Kenny injured. >> >> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >> >>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>> >>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end of >>> the season >>> >>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great >>> saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc >>> is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>> >>> Dave >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: > We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and he's > not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for the > most part shit. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" wrote: >> >> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost Stoke >> £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want to sell >> anyway. >> >> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big lad, >> good presence in the area and great reflexes. >> >> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury was >> known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, home >> to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock (eg >> Yeovil) and starts laughing? >> >> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >> >> MOT (without Kenny) >> >> Phill >> >>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>> To: nat...@sky.com >>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>> >>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him >>> back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. >>> Kenny injured. >>> >>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>> >>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>> >>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>> of the season >>>> >>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great >>>> saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc >>>> is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Cheers Jim. These days I don't go so I didn't feel that qualified to say that that was bollocks. But that's what I thought. Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:27, "Jim Moran" wrote: > > He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. > >> On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and he's >> not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for the >> most part shit. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" wrote: >>> >>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost Stoke >>> £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want to >>> sell anyway. >>> >>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big lad, >>> good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>> >>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock >>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>> >>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>> >>> MOT (without Kenny) >>> >>> Phill >>> >>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>> >>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him >>>> back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. >>>> Kenny injured. >>>> >>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>> >>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>>> of the season >>>>> >>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great >>>>> saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners >>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> ___ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) - what other games are you talking about? I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of defence and he is not doing his job. On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: > We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and he's > not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for the > most part shit. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" wrote: >> >> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost Stoke >> £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want to sell >> anyway. >> >> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big lad, >> good presence in the area and great reflexes. >> >> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury was >> known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, home >> to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock (eg >> Yeovil) and starts laughing? >> >> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >> >> MOT (without Kenny) >> >> Phill >> >>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>> To: nat...@sky.com >>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>> >>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants him >>> back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad cauldron. >>> Kenny injured. >>> >>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>> >>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>> >>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>> of the season >>>> >>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some great >>>> saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for corners etc >>>> is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Brighton at home Wednesday at home Brum at home God knows, 'keepers don't get praise for doing well. Mistakes get highlighted, but fuck me, the defence in front of him have been piss poor. On 21 February 2014 14:08, Phill Shields wrote: > Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) > - what other games are you talking about? > > I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of > defence and he is not doing his job. > > On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: > He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. > > On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and >> he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for >> the most part shit. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost >>> Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want >>> to sell anyway. >>> >>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big >>> lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>> >>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock >>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>> >>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>> >>> MOT (without Kenny) >>> >>> Phill >>> >>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>> >>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants >>>> him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad >>>> cauldron. Kenny injured. >>>> >>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>> >>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>>> of >>>>> the season >>>>> >>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some >>>>> great saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for >>>>> corners >>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> ___ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: >>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Kenny was one of only two players to emerge from the Rochdale debacle with any credit, the other being Byram. He made a couple of good saves in that game which prevented the scoreline from being even more of an embarrassment. But I agree he's been a bit dodgy since then. Tim W. From: Jim Moran To: Phill Shields Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" Sent: Friday, 21 February 2014, 15:59 Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland Brighton at home Wednesday at home Brum at home God knows, 'keepers don't get praise for doing well. Mistakes get highlighted, but fuck me, the defence in front of him have been piss poor. On 21 February 2014 14:08, Phill Shields wrote: > Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) > - what other games are you talking about? > > I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of > defence and he is not doing his job. > > On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: > He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. > > On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and >> he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for >> the most part shit. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" >>> wrote: >>> >>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost >>> Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want >>> to sell anyway. >>> >>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big >>> lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>> >>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock >>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>> >>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>> >>> MOT (without Kenny) >>> >>> Phill >>> >>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>> >>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants >>>> him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad >>>> cauldron. Kenny injured. >>>> >>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>> >>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>>> of >>>>> the season >>>>> >>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some >>>>> great saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for >>>>> corners >>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> ___ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: >>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> ___ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: >> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> John 'Grampa' Sykes >> Rest In Peace old lad >> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Didn't Kenny have one ridiculous game with like four world class saves? Charlton? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Jim Moran wrote: > > Brighton at home > Wednesday at home > Brum at home > > God knows, 'keepers don't get praise for doing well. Mistakes get > highlighted, but fuck me, the defence in front of him have been piss > poor. > > >> On 21 February 2014 14:08, Phill Shields wrote: >> Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) >> - what other games are you talking about? >> >> I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of >> defence and he is not doing his job. >> >> On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: >> He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. >> >>> On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >>> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and >>> he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are for >>> the most part shit. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost >>>> Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want >>>> to sell anyway. >>>> >>>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big >>>> lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>>> >>>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a bollock >>>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>>> >>>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>>> >>>> MOT (without Kenny) >>>> >>>> Phill >>>> >>>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>>> >>>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants >>>>> him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad >>>>> cauldron. Kenny injured. >>>>> >>>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the end >>>>>> of >>>>>> the season >>>>>> >>>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some >>>>>> great saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for >>>>>> corners >>>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>> >>>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>>> ___ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>> >>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: >>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>> >>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>> ___ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>> Rest In Peace old lad >>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > ___ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > John 'Grampa' Sykes > Rest In Peace old lad > 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 > MARCHING ON TOGETHER ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org John 'Grampa' Sykes Rest In Peace old lad 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 MARCHING ON TOGETHER
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
Doesn't matter, seems Phill is decided. I know Kenny has the weaknesses Phill's outlined, but I still think he's better than the average Championship 'keeper. On 21 February 2014 19:52, Nicholas Armit wrote: > Didn't Kenny have one ridiculous game with like four world class saves? > Charlton? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Jim Moran wrote: >> >> Brighton at home >> Wednesday at home >> Brum at home >> >> God knows, 'keepers don't get praise for doing well. Mistakes get >> highlighted, but fuck me, the defence in front of him have been piss >> poor. >> >> >>> On 21 February 2014 14:08, Phill Shields wrote: >>> Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) >>> - what other games are you talking about? >>> >>> I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of >>> defence and he is not doing his job. >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: >>> He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. >>> >>>> On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >>>> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and >>>> he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are >>>> for >>>> the most part shit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost >>>>> Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want >>>>> to sell anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big >>>>> lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>>>> >>>>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>>>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>>>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a >>>>> bollock >>>>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>>>> >>>>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>>>> >>>>> MOT (without Kenny) >>>>> >>>>> Phill >>>>> >>>>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>>>> >>>>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants >>>>>> him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad >>>>>> cauldron. Kenny injured. >>>>>> >>>>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the >>>>>>> end of >>>>>>> the season >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some >>>>>>> great saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for >>>>>>> corners >>>>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John 'Grampa' Sykes >>>>>>> Rest In Peace old lad >>>>>>> 28th Oct 1938 - 12 Nov 2013 >>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >>>>>>
Re: [LU] Jack Butland
I'd agree Dave, I don't think Kenny is the main problem and certainly at the start of the season he was one of our best players, however you're only as good as your last game (or last few games) and I think Kenny has been poor. Maybe he has been carrying an injury which might explain it but it also got me thinking that maybe his inability to come out and catch a ball and control his area might be a major factor as to why our defence seems to be under so much pressure. Apparently this is Buckland's strength but on the flip side his kicking is poor apparently. Hoping for a win today for Steve Gillen. On Friday, 21 February 2014, 19:57, Jim Moran wrote: Doesn't matter, seems Phill is decided. I know Kenny has the weaknesses Phill's outlined, but I still think he's better than the average Championship 'keeper. On 21 February 2014 19:52, Nicholas Armit wrote: > Didn't Kenny have one ridiculous game with like four world class saves? > Charlton? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Jim Moran wrote: >> >> Brighton at home >> Wednesday at home >> Brum at home >> >> God knows, 'keepers don't get praise for doing well. Mistakes get >> highlighted, but fuck me, the defence in front of him have been piss >> poor. >> >> >>> On 21 February 2014 14:08, Phill Shields wrote: >>> Not this season he hasn't. He did well against Rochdale (no points involved) >>> - what other games are you talking about? >>> >>> I accept there are players in front of him but he is the last line of >>> defence and he is not doing his job. >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2014 12:27 PM, Jim Moran wrote: >>> He's saved a hell of a lot more points than he's cost us. >>> >>>> On 21 February 2014 12:25, Ian Murray wrote: >>>> We won't attract better keepers than Kenny permanently. Good keeper and >>>> he's not the only one to have cost us points. The 10 in front of him are >>>> for >>>> the most part shit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 20:09, "Phill Shields" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree wit Richard, no chance of this being permanent. Think he cost >>>>> Stoke £3.5m which is an obstacle enough for us and I doubt they would want >>>>> to sell anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Still a good signing. Seen him a few times this year and he his a big >>>>> lad, good presence in the area and great reflexes. >>>>> >>>>> Of course this should have been done when the extent of Ashdown's injury >>>>> was known. Kenny is taking the p*ss. Cost us points recently at Wednesday, >>>>> home to Leicester & Ipswich. What makes it worse is when he drops a >>>>> bollock >>>>> (eg Yeovil) and starts laughing? >>>>> >>>>> He is a bad egg and we need to get rid. >>>>> >>>>> MOT (without Kenny) >>>>> >>>>> Phill >>>>> >>>>>> From: richleed...@yahoo.co.uk >>>>>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 18:39:47 + >>>>>> To: nat...@sky.com >>>>>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [LU] Jack Butland >>>>>> >>>>>> Just been on Radio Leeds Dave - no chance of signing him, Hughes wants >>>>>> him back and just wants him to experience playing in the Elland Riad >>>>>> cauldron. Kenny injured. >>>>>> >>>>>> We've also signed a young Irish striker. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Feb 2014, at 16:58, "nat...@sky.com" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see we have signed keeper Jack Butland on loan till end of the season >>>>>>> Not sure if this is just because Kenny is injured and a major doubt for >>>>>>> Saturdays game or if it is with a view to a permanent signing at the >>>>>>> end of >>>>>>> the season >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I must admit I find it hard to judge Kenny - he does pull off some >>>>>>> great saves but his kicking and his failure to come off his line for >>>>>>> corners >>>>>>> etc is a major weakness, he has also dropped some clangers this season >>
