RE: MA 12 legacy mill

[Bill Bulkeley]

There was no mention of a ma mill in the history or any were else that’s why I 
was interested in pics to see if it is the same

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016 8:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill

 

I really think we have some photo's of that machine taken from an Ebay ad in 
this group.  I didn't add it to the history page...or is the MA series really 
the woodchuck.  If it is, it's on the page. 
http://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html  Second machine down.  Being the 
woodchuck, would be like this machine...  
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/WoodChuck.htm.  The history link is 
for the group members eye's only.  Please do not distribute the link in any 
form.

 

-Tim

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bill   Bulkeley 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: MA 12 legacy mill

 

I have never seen a picture of a MA12 mill perhaps you can take a picture or 2 
and post it here for our archives weather you buy it or not

I for one would like to see it

Bill

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill

 

Hello  and good morning everyone, Richard is our newest member. Im sorry to say 
this in only half of his message, This is the first part.

 

"Hi I am at the present time using a Trend Router Lathe, and find it a bit 
constricting . I am also looking to buy a MA 12 Legacy. It is described as a 5 
axis built in the 1990's I am a little unsure and a 400 mile trip to have a 
look at it is a bit daunting Regards Richard."

(For everyone info. the MA 12 was an early woodchuck machine, and if I remember 
correctly it was made to be a kit machine, Here is the basic part and its up to 
you to make the rest. using there basic blueprints.) 

Richard the MA12 is also somewhat limited , it was an early model that grew 
into what we now call the Legacy Ornamental mill. but having said that, If you 
are happy with the price. the gears and drive screw and hub adapter... and some 
other parts form the MA12 could be used to make a very nice machine. all 
depending on your skills as an builder and your needs to make a better router 
mill.

I wish you luck and Please let us know how this turns out for you.

 

C.A.G.

 

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Re: double sided tape

[Tim Krause]

Thanks for helping the future search Bill. 

To answer the first question, on a late night Sunday, your choice of double 
side tapes that is appropriate to use can be bought at most places that have 
hardware.  Carpet tape is the simple answer.  The details is there is two 
kinds, one that is cloth reinforced and then simple vinyl type material.  It's 
carpet tape.  The cloth type is outdoor type.  Both of these types "sort of 
work".  I find the outdoor type can be too aggressive so you have to use less.  
It is my personal preference of tapes to use.  The indoor release better,  but 
tends to fail if you do not use enough.  When I apply both type, I will 
"burnish" or hammer the wood down to the waste board.   With the cloth type I 
will have a slot milled under the piece to be able to pry the wood up easier.  
I also clean the mdf with acetone when there seems to be too much adhesive 
residue in my favorite milling spot.  This help with adhesion as well.

 Now, if you have time or a woodturning supply place in town such as a Rockler 
or a Woodcrafters,  Woodcraft, etc,  you have what is known as Turners tape.  
They come in different strengths of adhesion.  Some of the more aggressive tape 
can be cloth reinforced, but that is not always true.  The different types do 
relate to the added cloth.  I do buy the highest tack they have which is the 
most expensive,  It's properties are like outdoor carpet tape so you can use 
less. 

Another less thought of tape is found at the Sewing supply places like 
Joanne's.  It's seamstress tape.  It's often found in a clear variety.  It 
works well generally, but it's so thin and high tack the releasing is very 
difficult.  You mileage will vary on this type. 

That's basically what I know, and welcome to the group Phil. 

Bill, I have to give the acetone a try as an accelerant.  It makes a lot of 
sense.

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 2:48 AM
  Subject: double sided tape


  I’m reposting this with a new heading so any one in the future searching our 
archives looking for info on double sided tape will hopefully be able to find 
it easier . i hope it comes up as a new topic

  Bill

   

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTsQ3dYRrk

   

   

   

  I have not used the method described on the link below but  plan to in the 
near future.  I need to buy the supper glue and accelerant.

  It is not double sided tape but hopefully a better method.

   

  Harvey

   

   

   

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTsQ3dYRrk

   

   

   

   

  On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Phil Burns  wrote:

  I just got a manual Legacy 1000xl mill and just started using it, my first 
project being a flag display box.  I am learning by my mistakes.  My question 
is what is a good source for the double sided tape used to hold the project in 
place while milling it?  Does it have to be the foam kind? I got a partial roll 
of the foam stuff with the machine, but there is no brand stamp on it so don't 
know what kind it is or from where to order it.  I've been looking online and 
there seems to be  different kinds, going from about $7 a roll up to $20.  A 
suggestion for an online source would be appreciated.

   

  Phil


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RE: MA 12 legacy mill

[Bill Bulkeley]

I have never seen a picture of a MA12 mill perhaps you can take a picture or 2 
and post it here for our archives weather you buy it or not

I for one would like to see it

Bill

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016 10:49 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MA 12 legacy mill

 

Hello  and good morning everyone, Richard is our newest member. Im sorry to say 
this in only half of his message, This is the first part.

 

"Hi I am at the present time using a Trend Router Lathe, and find it a bit 
constricting . I am also looking to buy a MA 12 Legacy. It is described as a 5 
axis built in the 1990's I am a little unsure and a 400 mile trip to have a 
look at it is a bit daunting Regards Richard."

(For everyone info. the MA 12 was an early woodchuck machine, and if I remember 
correctly it was made to be a kit machine, Here is the basic part and its up to 
you to make the rest. using there basic blueprints.) 

Richard the MA12 is also somewhat limited , it was an early model that grew 
into what we now call the Legacy Ornamental mill. but having said that, If you 
are happy with the price. the gears and drive screw and hub adapter... and some 
other parts form the MA12 could be used to make a very nice machine. all 
depending on your skills as an builder and your needs to make a better router 
mill.

I wish you luck and Please let us know how this turns out for you.





C.A.G.









 

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From: "rchrd ellis1" 
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:01:32 AM
Subject: MA 12 legacy mill

 

Hi All

 I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was bought new 
in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any ,to look for.

I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It is 
priced at £500  and 200 miles away.

Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this group 
that I have just joined,

Regards

Richard

 

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Re: MA 12 legacy mill

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello and good morning everyone, Richard is our newest member. Im sorry to say 
this in only half of his message, This is the first part. 

"Hi I am at the present time using a Trend Router Lathe, and find it a bit 
constricting . I am also looking to buy a MA 12 Legacy. It is described as a 5 
axis built in the 1990's I am a little unsure and a 400 mile trip to have a 
look at it is a bit daunting Regards Richard." 
(For everyone info. the MA 12 was an early woodchuck machine, and if I remember 
correctly it was made to be a kit machine, Here is the basic part and its up to 
you to make the rest. using there basic blueprints.) 
Richard the MA12 is also somewhat limited , it was an early model that grew 
into what we now call the Legacy Ornamental mill. but having said that, If you 
are happy with the price. the gears and drive screw and hub adapter... and some 
other parts form the MA12 could be used to make a very nice machine. all 
depending on your skills as an builder and your needs to make a better router 
mill. 
I wish you luck and Please let us know how this turns out for you. 

C.A.G. 



- Original Message -

From: "rchrd ellis1"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:01:32 AM 
Subject: MA 12 legacy mill 

Hi All 
I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was bought new 
in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any ,to look for. 
I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It is 
priced at £500 and 200 miles away. 
Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this group 
that I have just joined, 
Regards 
Richard 



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MA 12 legacy mill

[rchrd . ellis1]

Hi All
 I am tomorrow going to have a look at an MA12 legacy mill that was bought 
new in 1994. Has anyone any advice to tell me what problems ,if any ,to 
look for.
I am in the U.K. and I do not think there many about in this country It is 
priced at £500  and 200 miles away.
Looking forward to seeing it, and if I buy it, chatting about it on this 
group that I have just joined,
Regards
Richard

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Re: New Members and Moderation

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Hello and good morning everyone. 

Bill I did not know that acetone is an alternative accelerator. I have to try 
that! Thanks for the tip! 

C.A.G. 

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From: "Bill Bulkeley"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:47:40 PM 
Subject: RE: New Members and Moderation 



With the paper and white glue which works well but after you have to sand back 
to the wood to remove the paper and glue am I correct? I would prefer not to 
have to do that. 

And I don’t know about over there but here super glue is like 99 cents a tube 
in a craft shop under 2 dollars for masking tape and a dollar for Acetone Or 
nail polish remover (Acetone is an alternative for accelerator if you didn’t 
know) so for under 4 bucks I have a cheap holding method and it peels off no 
sanding I like that. 

Bill 




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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF 
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016 12:14 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation 





Curtis and all, 

I see it comes down to either: 

I need it quick - Use the masking tape & Super Glue OR Use the Hot Melt Glue 
(cheaper of the two?) 

OR 

I DON'T need it quick - I planned ahead -- Use the paper bag & white glue and 
wait 'til it dries (Least cost of all options?) 

Mac 






-Original Message- 
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
Sent: Jun 5, 2016 10:08 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation 




Hello Mac 


I use paper joints on split turnings quite a bit. but for some reason for 
mounting wood on the Legacy, 


I like the hot melt glue approach. although having said that, Mike P. has also 
recemended to me to try this masking tape/supper glue (CA Glue) idea to me a 
while back. 


I will be trying this idea out for my self. sometime in the not so off future. 





Thanks for all the suggestions, Please keep the ideas coming. 


C.A.G. 



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From: "MWF"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:48:50 PM 
Subject: RE: New Members and Moderation 





Does anyone else use plain old white glue and a piece of brown paper grocery 
bag (here in the USA) cut to at least the size of the smaller of the two pieces 
being temporarily joined? Yes, you have to wait for it to "dry" - but the 
wallet is willing to wait in many cases. (Plan ahead.) 
Then when it comes time to separate the pieces, place a blade (chisel, knife, 
etc.) at the joint and strike with a mallet. The paper is "the weak link". 
Mac 






-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Jun 5, 2016 6:50 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: New Members and Moderation 





I really like this idea, here in Australia where I live I can’t always get good 
double sided tape but I can get good masking tape and super glue I’m defiantly 
trying this one. 

Bill 




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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey Matyas 
Sent: Monday, 6 June 2016 6:16 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation 





I have not used the method described on the link below but plan to in the near 
future. I need to buy the supper glue and accelerant. 


It is not double sided tape but hopefully a better method. 





Harvey 





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTsQ3dYRrk 





On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Phil Burns < fillbu...@gmail.com > wrote: 


I just got a manual Legacy 1000xl mill and just started using it, my first 
project being a flag display box. I am learning by my mistakes. My question is 
what is a good source for the double sided tape used to hold the project in 
place while milling it? Does it have to be the foam kind? I got a partial roll 
of the foam stuff with the machine, but there is no brand stamp on it so don't 
know what kind it is or from where to order it. I've been looking online and 
there seems to be different kinds, going from about $7 a roll up to $20. A 
suggestion for an online source would be appreciated. 





Phil 

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double sided tape

[Bill Bulkeley]

I’m reposting this with a new heading so any one in the future searching our 
archives looking for info on double sided tape will hopefully be able to find 
it easier . i hope it comes up as a new topic

Bill

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTsQ3dYRrk

 

 

 

I have not used the method described on the link below but  plan to in the near 
future.  I need to buy the supper glue and accelerant.

It is not double sided tape but hopefully a better method.

 

Harvey

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTsQ3dYRrk

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Phil Burns  wrote:

I just got a manual Legacy 1000xl mill and just started using it, my first 
project being a flag display box.  I am learning by my mistakes.  My question 
is what is a good source for the double sided tape used to hold the project in 
place while milling it?  Does it have to be the foam kind? I got a partial roll 
of the foam stuff with the machine, but there is no brand stamp on it so don't 
know what kind it is or from where to order it.  I've been looking online and 
there seems to be  different kinds, going from about $7 a roll up to $20.  A 
suggestion for an online source would be appreciated.

 

Phil




 

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