RE: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread MWF 
Bill,Thanks for the clarification.  After reading your post, I thought "Does he mean to say he Can or Cannot get it "Down Under"?Watching the advert., I thought "This ad seems to be geared towards "Amer-glish" vs "Aus-glish" or "NY-glish" for Joe). (Are those "words"?  They are now!)Thanks for sharing the info about that 3M product.  (By the way - do any of ya'll know what the 3M stands for/used to be?)Mac-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Aug 12, 2016 7:14 PM
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Subject: RE: candy dish








 

 
  
 






Correction i have not seen them here in
Australia

Bill

 





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Subject: RE: candy dish





 

How about these for sanding hollow spirals as
usual i have seen them here down under

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOYBlaIuBY

 

Bill

 





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3:43 AM
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Subject: Re: candy dish





 



I remember Tracy's sales pitch at the wood shows.  He would say
making a hollow twist in his high school class was the biggest challenge and
now he can make them in no time on the legacy.  The shoe shine method was
the only way I could see it being done.  





 





Regarding Stuart's methods, they seem to be the one I learned in shop
and in fine woodworking articles.  It's tedious work.  He came to our
woodturning club but  I had others that thought they where more
important.  It's something I do regret.





 





I don't know if I'm too inspired to try making some, but I guess my
life with Legacy won't be complete until I've made one or two :-)  





 





Thanks for all the input.  





 





-Tim





 







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Bland 





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Friday, August 12, 2016 8:48 AM





Subject:
Re: candy dish





 





Yes, Tim there is lots of sanding on doing spirals. Due to cutting
into a cylinder, you are exposing a lot of end grain that is not easy to get
smooth. A good sharp router bit is best to start with as smooth a cut as
possible. Most of the spiral turnings that I have done were before I added a
motor so I just sit in a chair and sanded all by hand. With the wood being
Walnut, that makes the sanding even more difficult because that is a pretty
"hard" wood. I have resisted getting a sanding mop since it is
something I would not use that often and the sandpaper you use on it could not
be used on any of the other sanders I already have. I already own about
6 other kind of sanders. OK Mike gives the most practical suggestion of
using strips of sandpaper to "shoeshine" the turning while it is
still slowing turning on the machine. Sanding is the most un-fun part of
woodworking, but a bad job will show like wart on your nose when
finish is applied. 

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote: 





Good comment Dexter, 





 





I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a
spiral!  Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm
guessing the quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips
and go up the grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 





 





Tim

























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Re: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread 'Stan Eichelberger' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Curtis it is made of walnut there are 6 spindles but made 8 used the best 
6. Aussiman don't remember pitch bit was a1" barley hollowed with 3/8 
straight. Turned  the part the bowl sits on on a J line lathe. when I went 
to glue up the base could not find my band clamp late at night and on a 
deadline , took a piece of a 2"ratchet strap screwed it on the jaws of  a 
handscrew clamp instant band clamp .Sanded them with strips of sandpaper 
finish is rattlecan poly semi gloss

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 11:02:31 PM UTC-4, Stan Eichelberger wrote:
>
> candy dish made for Mansfield  State Prison honor  guard to thank the 
> furnual home where they practice.  Spindles made on 900 mill
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RE: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley 
Correction i have not seen them here in Australia

Bill

 

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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: candy dish

 

How about these for sanding hollow spirals as usual i have seen them here down 
under

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOYBlaIuBY

 

Bill

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 3:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: candy dish

 

I remember Tracy's sales pitch at the wood shows.  He would say making a hollow 
twist in his high school class was the biggest challenge and now he can make 
them in no time on the legacy.  The shoe shine method was the only way I could 
see it being done.  

 

Regarding Stuart's methods, they seem to be the one I learned in shop and in 
fine woodworking articles.  It's tedious work.  He came to our woodturning club 
but  I had others that thought they where more important.  It's something I do 
regret.

 

I don't know if I'm too inspired to try making some, but I guess my life with 
Legacy won't be complete until I've made one or two :-)  

 

Thanks for all the input.  

 

-Tim

 

- Original Message - 

From: Dexter   Bland 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills   

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Yes, Tim there is lots of sanding on doing spirals. Due to cutting into a 
cylinder, you are exposing a lot of end grain that is not easy to get smooth. A 
good sharp router bit is best to start with as smooth a cut as possible. Most 
of the spiral turnings that I have done were before I added a motor so I just 
sit in a chair and sanded all by hand. With the wood being Walnut, that makes 
the sanding even more difficult because that is a pretty "hard" wood. I have 
resisted getting a sanding mop since it is something I would not use that often 
and the sandpaper you use on it could not be used on any of the other sanders I 
already have. I already own about 6 other kind of sanders. OK Mike gives the 
most practical suggestion of using strips of sandpaper to "shoeshine" the 
turning while it is still slowing turning on the machine. Sanding is the most 
un-fun part of woodworking, but a bad job will show like wart on your nose when 
finish is applied. 

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote: 

Good comment Dexter, 

 

I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a spiral! 
 Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing the 
quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up the 
grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 

 

-Tim

 

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RE: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley 
How about these for sanding hollow spirals as usual i have seen them here down 
under

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOYBlaIuBY

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 3:43 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: candy dish

 

I remember Tracy's sales pitch at the wood shows.  He would say making a hollow 
twist in his high school class was the biggest challenge and now he can make 
them in no time on the legacy.  The shoe shine method was the only way I could 
see it being done.  

 

Regarding Stuart's methods, they seem to be the one I learned in shop and in 
fine woodworking articles.  It's tedious work.  He came to our woodturning club 
but  I had others that thought they where more important.  It's something I do 
regret.

 

I don't know if I'm too inspired to try making some, but I guess my life with 
Legacy won't be complete until I've made one or two :-)  

 

Thanks for all the input.  

 

-Tim

 

- Original Message - 

From: Dexter   Bland 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills   

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Yes, Tim there is lots of sanding on doing spirals. Due to cutting into a 
cylinder, you are exposing a lot of end grain that is not easy to get smooth. A 
good sharp router bit is best to start with as smooth a cut as possible. Most 
of the spiral turnings that I have done were before I added a motor so I just 
sit in a chair and sanded all by hand. With the wood being Walnut, that makes 
the sanding even more difficult because that is a pretty "hard" wood. I have 
resisted getting a sanding mop since it is something I would not use that often 
and the sandpaper you use on it could not be used on any of the other sanders I 
already have. I already own about 6 other kind of sanders. OK Mike gives the 
most practical suggestion of using strips of sandpaper to "shoeshine" the 
turning while it is still slowing turning on the machine. Sanding is the most 
un-fun part of woodworking, but a bad job will show like wart on your nose when 
finish is applied. 

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote: 

Good comment Dexter, 

 

I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a spiral! 
 Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing the 
quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up the 
grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 

 

-Tim

 

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Re: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Tim Krause 
I remember Tracy's sales pitch at the wood shows.  He would say making a hollow 
twist in his high school class was the biggest challenge and now he can make 
them in no time on the legacy.  The shoe shine method was the only way I could 
see it being done.  

Regarding Stuart's methods, they seem to be the one I learned in shop and in 
fine woodworking articles.  It's tedious work.  He came to our woodturning club 
but  I had others that thought they where more important.  It's something I do 
regret.

I don't know if I'm too inspired to try making some, but I guess my life with 
Legacy won't be complete until I've made one or two :-)  

Thanks for all the input.  

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dexter Bland 
  To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 8:48 AM
  Subject: Re: candy dish


  Yes, Tim there is lots of sanding on doing spirals. Due to cutting into a 
cylinder, you are exposing a lot of end grain that is not easy to get smooth. A 
good sharp router bit is best to start with as smooth a cut as possible. Most 
of the spiral turnings that I have done were before I added a motor so I just 
sit in a chair and sanded all by hand. With the wood being Walnut, that makes 
the sanding even more difficult because that is a pretty "hard" wood. I have 
resisted getting a sanding mop since it is something I would not use that often 
and the sandpaper you use on it could not be used on any of the other sanders I 
already have. I already own about 6 other kind of sanders. OK Mike gives the 
most practical suggestion of using strips of sandpaper to "shoeshine" the 
turning while it is still slowing turning on the machine. Sanding is the most 
un-fun part of woodworking, but a bad job will show like wart on your nose when 
finish is applied. 

  On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Good comment Dexter, 

I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a 
spiral!  Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing 
the quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up 
the grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 

-Tim



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Re: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Dexter Bland 
Yes, Tim there is lots of sanding on doing spirals. Due to cutting into a 
cylinder, you are exposing a lot of end grain that is not easy to get 
smooth. A good sharp router bit is best to start with as smooth a cut as 
possible. Most of the spiral turnings that I have done were before I added 
a motor so I just sit in a chair and sanded all by hand. With the wood 
being Walnut, that makes the sanding even more difficult because that is a 
pretty "hard" wood. I have resisted getting a sanding mop since it is 
something I would not use that often and the sandpaper you use on it could 
not be used on any of the other sanders I already have. I already own about 
6 other kind of sanders. OK Mike gives the most practical suggestion of 
using strips of sandpaper to "shoeshine" the turning while it is 
still slowing turning on the machine. Sanding is the most un-fun part of 
woodworking, but a bad job will show like wart on your nose when finish is 
applied. 

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 8:40:55 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Good comment Dexter, 
>  
> I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a 
> spiral!  Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm 
> guessing the quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper 
> strips and go up the grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 
>  
> -Tim
>
>

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RE: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Michael Kratky 
Regarding Stuart Mortimer:

Have had the fortune of seeing Stuart demonstrate in person many times over the 
years the last in Provo, Utah Craft Supplies show in 2012; his work inspired me 
to emulate several of his spiral turnings and then buy a 1200 Legacy myself 
some 14 years ago in an attempt to short cut the process which there is no 
substitute for that kind of skill.  He is a master at the very pinnacle of the 
craft and I would say that Legacy owes their beginnings to him. Interesting 
tidbit about Stewart, he is a former constable with very large and strong hands 
but a master of finesses.

 

Cheers, 

Michael Kratky

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bawdsey 64
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: Tim Krause; Legacy-Ornamental-Mills
Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Hi Tim

You don't need a Legacy for making a Hollow Spiral​ just take a look at Stuart 
Mortimer who believe me is a genius at this 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDD0ZQzPNt8 Also watch this video by Stuart 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kKJpR9xSI

 

He does have a Legacy 1200 and I know as I sold it to him a good few years ago. 
He basically marks up the piece of timber then gets to work using an ArborTech 
followed by rasps and very long twists of various grade sandpaper.

 

I am lucky enough to belong to the Stuart Mortimer Woodturning Club and so I 
have seen him in action and see his marvellous work every month when the club 
meets.

 

Enjoy

Roger

​

 

From: Tim Krause

Received: 12/08/2016 02:45:24 +01:00

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Good comment Dexter, 

 

I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a spiral! 
 Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing the 
quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up the 
grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 

 

-Tim

 

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From: Dexter Bland   

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills   

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:09 AM

Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Stan,

Very nice work. The wood appears to be walnut. I'm sure lots of time sanding 
the spindles. What kind of finish did you use? Some poly or tongue oil?

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Re: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Bawdsey 64 
Hi Tim
You don't need a Legacy for making a Hollow Spiral​ just take a look at Stuart 
Mortimer who believe me is a genius at this 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDD0ZQzPNt8 
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDD0ZQzPNt8] Also watch this video by Stuart 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kKJpR9xSI 
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kKJpR9xSI]

He does have a Legacy 1200 and I know as I sold it to him a good few years ago. 
He basically marks up the piece of timber then gets to work using an ArborTech 
followed by rasps and very long twists of various grade sandpaper.

I am lucky enough to belong to the Stuart Mortimer Woodturning Club and so I 
have seen him in action and see his marvellous work every month when the club 
meets.

Enjoy
Roger


​


From: Tim Krause
Received: 12/08/2016 02:45:24 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Good comment Dexter,
 
I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a spiral! 
 Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing the 
quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up the 
grits. Can anyone please share some experience here.
 
-Tim
 
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To: Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: candy dish

Stan,
Very nice work. The wood appears to be walnut. I'm sure lots of time sanding 
the spindles. What kind of finish did you use? Some poly or tongue oil?


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RE: candy dish

2016-08-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley 
I use strips of cloth back sand paper too to shape it then sanding mops and 
small flap sanders in a dermal and some times buffs to polish. 

Bill 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Friday, 12 August 2016 11:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Good comment Dexter, 

 

I'm going to admit something as your fearless leader, I've never done a spiral! 
 Is there a lot of sanding involved when doing a twist?  I'm guessing the 
quickest way would be to use some cloth backed sandpaper strips and go up the 
grits. Can anyone please share some experience here. 

 

-Tim

 

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From: Dexter   Bland 

To: Legacy Ornamental Mills   

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:09 AM

Subject: Re: candy dish

 

Stan,

Very nice work. The wood appears to be walnut. I'm sure lots of time sanding 
the spindles. What kind of finish did you use? Some poly or tongue oil?

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