Re: Parts and pieces still being offered

[Arkady Paka]

Hello Mike and everybody.
What meens 1"- 8tpi hub ?
Maybe anybody have pics?

Arkady.
Ukraine.

2017-11-17 7:10 GMT+02:00 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>:

> Thank you Mike!
> *That is the best news that I have heard on a long time.*
>
> If I understand you correctly,Most parts form our machines still can be
> bought from Legacy, but they
> do not build machines any more and will *not* sell the Manual machine any
> more ?
> I am glad to hear that the confusion on this topic is NOW OVER. ;-)
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:49 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Been a rough but productive week on the group.  More things are getting
> moved from the unknown to the known.  Harbored ill feelings are being
> resolved as well as relationships being strengthened.  Now onward to bigger
> and better things.
> I left a message for Cindy at Legacy and she returned my call.  We had a
> great conversation about the future availability of some of the parts that
> are specifically for the manual machines as well as the parts that are used
> on both manual and CNC.   Dyna-glide as well as the index drive hubs and
> pilaster hubs and lock collars.  The hub receivers that were a #2 mores
> taper won't be available but instead there will be the 1"- 8tpi hub that
> will fit all the manual and CNC machines.   She also said she stocks the
> old style top-hat and rectangle glides as well as split nuts and crank
> handles.  Also drive gears and gear sets.  She will be able to send out
> instructions for modifications like the "Y" axis pattern follower so we can
> see what they did and could accomplish it on our own.
> Bottom line, Cindy says there will not be a full-line store front and she
> wants you to call her for manual machine questions and part availability.
> She will be the one to take and fill the order or she will be able to
> suggest alternate courses of action.  She is here to help, "Thank You
> Cindy!"
> Mike OK
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RE: Parts and pieces still being offered

[Bill Bulkeley]

1"- 8tpi hub means instead of this type of driver hub.JPG which has a morse 
taper to fit in the head stock like in the picture it will have a thread like a 
nut on it which will be 1 inch diameter and a thread of 8 threads  per inch and 
will screw on the headstock shaft were its thread is.

 

Please correct me if this is not right

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Friday, 17 November 2017 9:08 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Parts and pieces still being offered

 

Hello Mike and everybody.

What meens 1"- 8tpi hub ?

Maybe anybody have pics?

 

Arkady.

Ukraine.

 

2017-11-17 7:10 GMT+02:00 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
:

Thank you Mike! 

That is the best news that I have heard on a long time.

 

If I understand you correctly,Most parts form our machines still can be bought 
from Legacy, but they 

do not build machines any more and will not sell the Manual machine any more ?

I am glad to hear that the confusion on this topic is NOW OVER. ;-)

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:49 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
 wrote:

 

Hello everyone, 

Been a rough but productive week on the group.  More things are getting moved 
from the unknown to the known.  Harbored ill feelings are being resolved as 
well as relationships being strengthened.  Now onward to bigger and better 
things.

I left a message for Cindy at Legacy and she returned my call.  We had a great 
conversation about the future availability of some of the parts that are 
specifically for the manual machines as well as the parts that are used on both 
manual and CNC.   Dyna-glide as well as the index drive hubs and pilaster hubs 
and lock collars.  The hub receivers that were a #2 mores taper won't be 
available but instead there will be the 1"- 8tpi hub that will fit all the 
manual and CNC machines.   She also said she stocks the old style top-hat and 
rectangle glides as well as split nuts and crank handles.  Also drive gears and 
gear sets.  She will be able to send out instructions for modifications like 
the "Y" axis pattern follower so we can see what they did and could accomplish 
it on our own.  

Bottom line, Cindy says there will not be a full-line store front and she wants 
you to call her for manual machine questions and part availability.  She will 
be the one to take and fill the order or she will be able to suggest alternate 
courses of action.  She is here to help, "Thank You Cindy!"

Mike OK

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Re: Parts and pieces still being offered

[donaldboettler]

That's good to know about getting replace parts. 
 I bought the 1200 in 2005  and had used it to turn legs for chairs and 
rockers people had brought to me for repairs.  Just recently I used the 
1200 to turn spindles and legs for some kitchen stools.  Spindles that thin 
are difficult to turn on the wood lathe and I don't have a draw horse so I 
tried the 1200, worked very well and it speed-ed up the process. 
The biggest problem I have with using the LOM is applying the process to my 
builds, in the past I mostly built in the craftsman style which does 
require a lot of ornate woodworking.  But one of my future builds will be a 
roll top desk which I will be incorporating more usage of the 1200.

God Bless

Don

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 8:49:01 PM UTC-6, LILtwisted wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> Been a rough but productive week on the group.  More things are getting 
> moved from the unknown to the known.  Harbored ill feelings are being 
> resolved as well as relationships being strengthened.  Now onward to bigger 
> and better things.
>
> I left a message for Cindy at Legacy and she returned my call.  We had a 
> great conversation about the future availability of some of the parts that 
> are specifically for the manual machines as well as the parts that are used 
> on both manual and CNC.   Dyna-glide as well as the index drive hubs and 
> pilaster hubs and lock collars.  The hub receivers that were a #2 mores 
> taper won't be available but instead there will be the 1"- 8tpi hub that 
> will fit all the manual and CNC machines.   She also said she stocks the 
> old style top-hat and rectangle glides as well as split nuts and crank 
> handles.  Also drive gears and gear sets.  She will be able to send out 
> instructions for modifications like the "Y" axis pattern follower so we can 
> see what they did and could accomplish it on our own.  
>
> Bottom line, Cindy says there will not be a full-line store front and she 
> wants you to call her for manual machine questions and part availability.  
> She will be the one to take and fill the order or she will be able to 
> suggest alternate courses of action.  She is here to help, "Thank You 
> Cindy!"
>
> Mike OK
>

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Re: A response from Andy Anderson Of Legacy Regarding Support.

[Charles Peel]

I am in the group and own two ornamental mills and one legacy maverick CNC. I 
have never had problems with service. Legacy staff in the past worked with me 
to provide what I needed and I bought other items used. I bought the Maverick 
because I like the company, I like the 5 axis capability. I have been driving 
GMC trucks for going on 50 years. I have enjoyed the advancements made and 
continue to buy their product. It would be a little stupid to request they 
manufacture the same product I started with in 1970. If you like 5 axis 
capability you need to check into there new product line. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Richard Ellis  wrote:
> 
> I suppose there are inventors and salesmen, They probably do not go together  
> . And secondly Manufactures often make more money out of spares, The LOM 's I 
> have don't require many, and if they do I can make them or get someone local 
> to make them.
> 
>> On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 4:47:53 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
>> 
>> I had a conversation with Andy Anderson of Legacy and he has asked me to 
>> forward this email to the group.  
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Tim,
>> 
>> 
>> I can see the confusion caused by our statement but if you understand that 
>> support, to us, means coaching and producing new training materials for a 
>> product and of course manufacturing means we still build new OM's then it 
>> becomes quite clear. I can see that a longer, wordier explanation could have 
>> been used to tell the story but I'm sure that those determined to complain 
>> would have found something in the longer explanation to complain about too.  
>> With a little effort say, a phone call to me, and the whole story could have 
>> been told on the thread but telling the truth, getting the whole story onto 
>> the forum, is not what some of those making comments on the thread intended. 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> Some of the claims and statements made in the thread are incorrect and some 
>> just not true and if any of these folks had an ounce of courage they would 
>> have spoken to me instead of wasting their time and yours in an online 
>> conversation with others that definitely don't have the answers either.  I 
>> have an 800 number, I'm at extension 11. The call is free. I'm not hiding.  
>> 800 279 4570
>> 
>> 
>> If they had have called me they would find out we still sell, build, and use 
>> index hubs in our CNC systems, pilaster dogs as well.  We still build and 
>> stock many of the  gears and gear sets, spit nuts and other items that go 
>> missing or wear out over time.  We sell them to people that buy second hand 
>> OMs at yard and estate sales quite often.  Of course if these new owners 
>> were to join the misinformed on this google group and believed the nonsense 
>> that they read they may not been able to buy these items because they 
>> believed the myth that we don't provide any customer service for our OM's 
>> and they would not have called and receive the parts they needed.  You can 
>> see why I don't encourage people to join the group. Of course, it is true, 
>> that we no longer stock many of the parts required to build an OM from 
>> scratch.  If you back your car over your OM in the garage I'm afraid I won't 
>> be able to help you. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Until I read through this latest thread I might have been willing to allow 
>> someone to use my designs and drawings to build replacement parts for OM 
>> owners but I can't see the point of working with people as misinformed, 
>> ignorant, arrogant, and unwilling to investigate to find the truth as those 
>> that were commenting on the thread today. If the google group forum isn't a 
>> place to find the facts then what exactly is it's purpose?  As I pointed out 
>> in our conversation this morning, many of the comments were made by people 
>> who don't really want solutions, they don't want the truth, they want to do 
>> damage. 
>> 
>> 
>> The irony is that after inflicting as much damage as they can with their 
>> ignorant comments they complain that I don't spend enough time and money 
>> supporting them and they complain that I'm not reasonable.  After they put 
>> in jeopardy the jobs and the future of the 20 families that work at Legacy I 
>> am supposed to give them whatever they want.   
>> 
>> 
>> A reasonable request to use my designs and drawings, made directly to me not 
>> to others in the group, would have been carefully considered but how many 
>> potential customers are going to read through this latest pile of 
>> misinformation and pure crap and buy another brand CNC machine because they 
>> were frightened off by these comments? I can't say, but it will happen.  
>> Those making the ignorant and uninformed comments in this thread don't seem 
>> to be able to connect the dots.  Damage Legacy and you damage all OM owners.
>> 
>> 
>> Why should I work with individuals that can't make s

Re: A response from Andy Anderson Of Legacy Regarding Support.

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

Hello CharlesI am not a computer type of person. but I can see the value of 
what the CNC world can produce, it is amazing what can be done...
Please keep us up to date with your projects and incites on YOUR Legacy. I am 
looking forward to hear all about your ventures.Our goal of this group is to 
learn and to grow,to become better then what we are today,  I see the easiest 
way to do that, is to share information . (techniques, methods,and ideas) This 
is where my focus is at. it doesn't matter where the info came form, if I can 
use it to grow, then its good stuff to me. ;-)Thank you.And Again Welcome to 
the group.C.A.G. 

On Friday, November 17, 2017 11:32 AM, Charles Peel  
wrote:
 

 I am in the group and own two ornamental mills and one legacy maverick CNC. I 
have never had problems with service. Legacy staff in the past worked with me 
to provide what I needed and I bought other items used. I bought the Maverick 
because I like the company, I like the 5 axis capability. I have been driving 
GMC trucks for going on 50 years. I have enjoyed the advancements made and 
continue to buy their product. It would be a little stupid to request they 
manufacture the same product I started with in 1970. If you like 5 axis 
capability you need to check into there new product line. 

Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Richard Ellis  wrote:


I suppose there are inventors and salesmen, They probably do not go together  . 
And secondly Manufactures often make more money out of spares, The LOM 's I 
have don't require many, and if they do I can make them or get someone local to 
make them.

On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 4:47:53 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
  
  I had a conversation with Andy Anderson of Legacy and he has asked me to 
forward this email to the group.  
 
  Forwarded Message  
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  Dear Tim, 
  I can see the confusion caused by our statement but if you understand that 
support, to us, means coaching and producing new training materials for a 
product and of course manufacturing means we still build new OM's then it 
becomes quite clear. I can see that a longer, wordier explanation could have 
been used to tell the story but I'm sure that those determined to complain 
would have found something in the longer explanation to complain about too.  
With a little effort say, a phone call to me, and the whole story could have 
been told on the thread but telling the truth, getting the whole story onto the 
forum, is not what some of those making comments on the thread intended.    
  Some of the claims and statements made in the thread are incorrect and some 
just not true and if any of these folks had an ounce of courage they would have 
spoken to me instead of wasting their time and yours in an online conversation 
with others that definitely don't have the answers either.  I have an 800 
number, I'm at extension 11. The call is free. I'm not hiding.  800 279 4570 
  If they had have called me they would find out we still sell, build, and use 
index hubs in our CNC systems, pilaster dogs as well.  We still build and stock 
many of the  gears and gear sets, spit nuts and other items that go missing or 
wear out over time.  We sell them to people that buy second hand OMs at yard 
and estate sales quite often.  Of course if these new owners were to join the 
misinformed on this google group and believed the nonsense that they read they 
may not been able to buy these items because they believed the myth that we 
don't provide any customer service for our OM's and they would not have called 
and receive the  parts they needed.  You can see why I don't encourage people 
to join the group. Of course, it is true, that we no longer stock many of the 
parts required to build an OM from scratch.  If you back your car over your OM 
in the garage I'm afraid I won't be able to help you.  
  Until I read through this latest thread I might have been willing to allow 
someone to use my designs and drawings to build replacement parts for OM owners 
but I can't see the point of working with people as misinformed, ignorant, 
arrogant, and unwilling to investigate to find the truth as those that were 
commenting on the thread today. If the google group forum isn't a place to find 
the facts then what exactly is it's purpose?  As I pointed out in our 
conversation this morning, many of the comments were made by people who don't 
really want solutions, they don't want the truth, they want to do damage.   
  The irony is that after inflicting as much damage as they can with their 
ignorant comments they complain that I don't spend enough time and money 
supporting them and they complain that I'm not reasonable.  After they put in 
jeopardy the jobs and the future of the 20 families that work at Legacy I am 
supposed to give them whatever they want.    
  A reasonable request to use my designs and drawings, made directly to me not 
to others