Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill
Further thought on this...the spring loaded pen would be easy to make for those that have a Revo or the updated z axis or the updated template follower for the 900/1200/1800 models. For those that don't know, those models use an aluminum block to hold a follower that had different sized dowel pins. I don't have a photo handy. Also those with the updated template holder that is level with the outer rails would have to design a pen holder differently than the stock brackets used on the rest of the models. This should be easy to figure out. Tim Sent from BlueMail On Feb 4, 2018, 10:32 PM, at 10:32 PM, Tim Krausewrote: >Hi Curt, > >I really like this idea as a practical solution for the case of >creating spindles by the seat of your pants on the legacy and then >needing to reed or cove from the side. I'm thinking a spring loaded >sharpie holder would work great. It can be mounted anywhere on the >template follower to make the pattern. > >Thanks for the food for thought. > >Tim > >Sent from BlueMail > >On Feb 3, 2018, 4:14 PM, at 4:14 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy >Ornamental Mills wrote: >>Hello Everyone.an Idea cam to me today, (while driving home form >>work.) I have not done this on my Legacy but have done it with my >>Lathe. >>The idea is to use the Template follower on the Legacy as a Template >>Maker to produce template that you can reproduce. >>If you put an already made spindle in between the centers on the >>Legacy, then set up a blank template ( just a sheet of piece of >>wood/hardboard/plastic) on the template holder.If you put a copying >>router bit, (or any bit with a ball bearing guide on it.) You can >>trace the turning.Now all that you need to do it , put a pencil or >>marker mounted on the Legacy's follower (where the guild normally is >>placed.) When you run your ball bearing bit along the spindle, the >>follower (with the marker on it.) will trace the spindle, leaving you >>with the marker's out-line of your new template. then all you need to >>do is cut it out, and then re-mount the template in your original >>location, to make copy/ re-production of the spindle. >>Now what can make this fun, is Make any spindle you want, and once >>done, you can use the same set-up as I described. to copy your >>original, so you can make more... >>The Legacy's template follower can be used for many things other then >>just re-producing from start to finish idioms. The Legacy is NOT a >copy >>lathe, but it can be used as one. >>I personalty use the template follower for detail work, like side >>reeding a thin spindle, where I know a side cutting bit router bearing >>will slip and under cut what I plan to make. (exp. the cups that I >have >>made over the last few weekends) >>Legacy made a few y ears ago, a video called Profile following. in >this >>video they used a template to make a number of different idioms by >>using the follower. >>The sky is the limit. >>By using some simple ideas. you can make much more then you ever >>dreamed of. >>What do you all think? any and all comments are (as always) Welcome. >>C.A.G. >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>To post to this group, send email to >>legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. >>Visit this group at >>https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to >legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at >https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill
Hi Curt, I really like this idea as a practical solution for the case of creating spindles by the seat of your pants on the legacy and then needing to reed or cove from the side. I'm thinking a spring loaded sharpie holder would work great. It can be mounted anywhere on the template follower to make the pattern. Thanks for the food for thought. Tim Sent from BlueMail On Feb 3, 2018, 4:14 PM, at 4:14 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Millswrote: >Hello Everyone.an Idea cam to me today, (while driving home form >work.) I have not done this on my Legacy but have done it with my >Lathe. >The idea is to use the Template follower on the Legacy as a Template >Maker to produce template that you can reproduce. >If you put an already made spindle in between the centers on the >Legacy, then set up a blank template ( just a sheet of piece of >wood/hardboard/plastic) on the template holder.If you put a copying >router bit, (or any bit with a ball bearing guide on it.) You can >trace the turning.Now all that you need to do it , put a pencil or >marker mounted on the Legacy's follower (where the guild normally is >placed.) When you run your ball bearing bit along the spindle, the >follower (with the marker on it.) will trace the spindle, leaving you >with the marker's out-line of your new template. then all you need to >do is cut it out, and then re-mount the template in your original >location, to make copy/ re-production of the spindle. >Now what can make this fun, is Make any spindle you want, and once >done, you can use the same set-up as I described. to copy your >original, so you can make more... >The Legacy's template follower can be used for many things other then >just re-producing from start to finish idioms. The Legacy is NOT a copy >lathe, but it can be used as one. >I personalty use the template follower for detail work, like side >reeding a thin spindle, where I know a side cutting bit router bearing >will slip and under cut what I plan to make. (exp. the cups that I have >made over the last few weekends) >Legacy made a few y ears ago, a video called Profile following. in this >video they used a template to make a number of different idioms by >using the follower. >The sky is the limit. >By using some simple ideas. you can make much more then you ever >dreamed of. >What do you all think? any and all comments are (as always) Welcome. >C.A.G. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to >legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. >Visit this group at >https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Working toward a Legacy Mill
The pictures on craigslist all seem to be under a megabit in size and should post ok on the group but that could be craiglist doing that find your pictures on your computer do not open instead Right click on one and choose properties this will tell you how big it is if around 1 meg it should post or are you trying to post too many at a time all your pictures combined cant be much bigger than 2 or 3 meg or it won’t post. If this is all getting overwhelming email one of your pics to me bulke...@mmnet.com.au and i will see if i can post it and see whats wrong Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rg Max Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 4:46 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill I posted to craigslist.org - St. Louis, Mo. 6 pictures - hope that helps search = Legacy Mill - Steely 900/1200 Manual CNC On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Bill Bulkeleywrote: I just add them to the email if your not using email to post messages send one to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com and attach your pics to that and we all should get them unless the picturs are too big to email Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rg Max Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018 4:31 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill New bee here to post pictures of my Legacy - tried three times - write for pictures On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:55 AM, MWF wrote: Arkady and all others, Here is a link to their website: http://dicoproducts.com/products.php?gid=5 The ones I have used are the: 4 inch (diameter) Wheel Brush 4 inch (diameter) Flap Brush They come in 3 levels of "stiffness" and are colored accordingly - Coarse - Gray, Medium - Orange, and Fine - Blue (softest) I have used all 3 levels of coarseness and am VERY VERY HAPPY with them. They will outlast a wire bristled wheel 100 to one! You don't get those little wires coming off and hitting you in the face. Nor do they leave the little pieces of wire all over your work area when you are finished. Price-wise, they may be 2x the price - but I can assure you - WELL WORTH more than that! Example: I have a outdoor BBQ grill that needed major clean-up. In the past, I used wire wheels to clean it all down before repainting (high temp paint). It was quite a chore and I'd go through a couple wire wheels (good brand name products - not cheap China junk). This past Spring (a year ago), I tackled the job again. In preparation I bought 2 4" Nyalox wheels. I finished the job using only one wheel. I measured its diameter and compared it to the new/unused one. Imperceptible difference in their diameters! Group Members - if you are reading this - has anyone else ever heard of the Nyalox brushes? Have you used them? Your thoughts? If you have not ever used them - but use wire wheels, I recommend you switch to Nyalox immediately. (Full disclosure: I do not work for Nyalox or any business that sells them; nor do I own stock in them. I'm just a very impressed customer.) Mac _ _ -Original Message- From: Arkady Paka Sent: Jan 24, 2018 1:50 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill Hello Mac Nyalox have many items. Which one you use? Arkady. 2018-01-24 7:45 GMT+02:00 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills : Hello Ira those are nice table legs, (Beautiful wood!) A barley twist leg could be done in 45 min if you start form scratch. But there are ways to get the job done much faster is you plan,and remove the waist before putting the wood on the Legacy. Mike Pung has shared his radio lathe duplicator with us in the group. ( http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn3.htm) If I had to bet, He could make those legs in less then half of the time I could make those on the Legacy alone. Having said that, there is almost, always more then one way to do anything. If you use your lathe, a peeling cut with a skew, can remove wood very fast, if you can get the wood close to finish size before you put it on the Legacy, your production time will be much shorter... (How you do that is up to you.) ;-) Mac. what you are thinking of is called a reversing gear. so you can make both left and right pitches on the Legacy. A reminder to everyone, OUR favorite son.(Mr. Tim...) Made a number of quick change gear sets, not so long ago. I own one and Love it. I don't know if he is willing to make them again, but I do know that he has the files and might be persuaded to have someone else make them... When there is a will there is ALWAYS a way to get the job done. But asking if the first
Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill
Mike, Thanks. I was in the process of doing the exact same thing - posting the link right to the page.Mac-Original Message- From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)"Sent: Feb 4, 2018 1:24 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill Found it https://stlouis.craigslist.org/tls/d/legacy-mill-steelymanual-cnc/6484347339.html On 2/4/2018 11:45 AM, Rg Max wrote: I posted to craigslist.org - St. Louis, Mo. 6 pictures - hope that helps search = Legacy Mill - Steely 900/1200 Manual CNC On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Bill Bulkeley wrote: I just add them to the email if your not using email to post messages send one to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com and attach your pics to that and we all should get them unless the picturs are too big to email Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill
I posted to craigslist.org - St. Louis, Mo. 6 pictures - hope that helps search = Legacy Mill - Steely 900/1200 Manual CNC On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Bill Bulkeleywrote: > I just add them to the email if your not using email to post messages send > one to > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com and attach your pics to that and > we all should get them unless the picturs are too big to email > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto: > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rg Max > *Sent:* Sunday, 4 February 2018 4:31 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill > > > > New bee here to post pictures of my Legacy - tried three times - write for > pictures > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:55 AM, MWF wrote: > > Arkady and all others, > > Here is a link to their website: http://dicoproducts.com/ > products.php?gid=5 > > The ones I have used are the: > 4 inch (diameter) Wheel Brush > 4 inch (diameter) Flap Brush > > They come in 3 levels of "stiffness" and are colored accordingly - Coarse > - Gray, Medium - Orange, and Fine - Blue (softest) > > I have used all 3 levels of coarseness and am VERY VERY HAPPY with them. > They will outlast a wire bristled wheel 100 to one! You don't get those > little wires coming off and hitting you in the face. Nor do they leave the > little pieces of wire all over your work area when you are finished. > Price-wise, they may be 2x the price - but I can assure you - WELL WORTH > more than that! > > Example: I have a outdoor BBQ grill that needed major clean-up. In the > past, I used wire wheels to clean it all down before repainting (high temp > paint). It was quite a chore and I'd go through a couple wire wheels (good > brand name products - not cheap China junk). This past Spring (a year > ago), I tackled the job again. In preparation I bought 2 4" Nyalox > wheels. I finished the job using only one wheel. I measured its diameter > and compared it to the new/unused one. Imperceptible difference in their > diameters! > > Group Members - if you are reading this - has anyone else ever heard of > the Nyalox brushes? > Have you used them? Your thoughts? > > If you have not ever used them - but use wire wheels, I recommend you > switch to Nyalox immediately. > (Full disclosure: I do not work for Nyalox or any business that sells > them; nor do I own stock in them. I'm just a very impressed customer.) > > Mac > -- > -- > > > > -Original Message- > From: Arkady Paka > Sent: Jan 24, 2018 1:50 AM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill > > Hello Mac > > Nyalox have many items. Which one you use? > > > > Arkady. > > > > 2018-01-24 7:45 GMT+02:00 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>: > > Hello Ira > > those are nice table legs, (Beautiful wood!) A barley twist leg could be > done in 45 min if you start form scratch. But there are ways to get the > job done much faster is you plan,and remove the waist before putting the > wood on the Legacy. Mike Pung has shared his radio lathe duplicator with > us in the group. ( http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn3.htm) If > I had to bet, He could make those legs in less then half of the time I > could make those on the Legacy alone. > > > > Having said that, there is almost, always more then one way to do > anything. If you use your lathe, a peeling cut with a skew, can remove wood > very fast, if you can get the wood close to finish size before you put it > on the Legacy, your production time will be much shorter... (How you do > that is up to you.) ;-) > > > > Mac. what you are thinking of is called a reversing gear. so you can make > both left and right pitches on the Legacy. > > A reminder to everyone, OUR favorite son.(Mr. Tim...) Made a number of > quick change gear sets, not so long ago. I own one and Love it. > > I don't know if he is willing to make them again, but I do know that he > has the files and might be persuaded to have someone else make them... When > there is a will there is ALWAYS a way to get the job done. But asking if > the first step. ;-) > > > > Its time for me to hit the hay now. > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > > > On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:03 PM, Ira S. Vest > wrote: > > > > Mac so you are only the second person to catch that all 4 legs twisted the > same way. That was one of the first things I did with a twist leg. Here is > the legs I’m working on now for 2 end tables. They are Black Walnut. I > wiped one with mineral spirits to show the color. Just curious but how long > does it take you all with the LOM? Ira > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > *Error! Filename not
Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill
Hello Ronaldusing the original is not as easy as you would think on the Legacy, the brackets are made to hold flat templates. If you could mount the original idiom on the brackets, then you are also limited as for spacing/ clearance of the follower. ONE other benefit of using my suggested method is locating or positioning the work. If you mount the template/ board, in such a way it only can be mounted in that position after tracing out the pattern, it would much easier to re-align, in the future... I use my Shop Smith duplicator a lot, for rough turnings, and then The Legacy to do the finals depending on what I want to make. but ... When there is a will there is always a way. I believe that no one machine is its own in all-be-all , do everything machine. EVERYTHING has its purpose and its place. AND Its just up to us, to figure out what that place is??? ;-) I got to run. Have a good day.C.A.G. On Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:54 AM, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Millswrote: Hi CurtWhy not use the original as the pattern to follow. Mounting it to a set of brackets attached to the out side of the top rails. This is like the Shop Smith duplicator with the router attached to the duplicator arm. Ron (the math guy) In a message dated 2/3/2018 7:14:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com writes: Hello Everyone.an Idea cam to me today, (while driving home form work.) I have not done this on my Legacy but have done it with my Lathe. The idea is to use the Template follower on the Legacy as a Template Maker to produce template that you can reproduce. If you put an already made spindle in between the centers on the Legacy, then set up a blank template ( just a sheet of piece of wood/hardboard/plastic) on the template holder.If you put a copying router bit, (or any bit with a ball bearing guide on it.) You can trace the turning.Now all that you need to do it , put a pencil or marker mounted on the Legacy's follower (where the guild normally is placed.) When you run your ball bearing bit along the spindle, the follower (with the marker on it.) will trace the spindle, leaving you with the marker's out-line of your new template. then all you need to do is cut it out, and then re-mount the template in your original location, to make copy/ re-production of the spindle. Now what can make this fun, is Make any spindle you want, and once done, you can use the same set-up as I described. to copy your original, so you can make more... The Legacy's template follower can be used for many things other then just re-producing from start to finish idioms. The Legacy is NOT a copy lathe, but it can be used as one. I personalty use the template follower for detail work, like side reeding a thin spindle, where I know a side cutting bit router bearing will slip and under cut what I plan to make. (exp. the cups that I have made over the last few weekends) Legacy made a few y ears ago, a video called Profile following. in this video they used a template to make a number of different idioms by using the follower. The sky is the limit. By using some simple ideas. you can make much more then you ever dreamed of. What do you all think? any and all comments are (as always) Welcome. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill
Hi Curt Why not use the original as the pattern to follow. Mounting it to a set of brackets attached to the out side of the top rails. This is like the Shop Smith duplicator with the router attached to the duplicator arm. Ron (the math guy) In a message dated 2/3/2018 7:14:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com writes: Hello Everyone. an Idea cam to me today, (while driving home form work.) I have not done this on my Legacy but have done it with my Lathe. The idea is to use the Template follower on the Legacy as a Template Maker to produce template that you can reproduce. If you put an already made spindle in between the centers on the Legacy, then set up a blank template ( just a sheet of piece of wood/hardboard/plastic) on the template holder. If you put a copying router bit, (or any bit with a ball bearing guide on it.) You can trace the turning. Now all that you need to do it , put a pencil or marker mounted on the Legacy's follower (where the guild normally is placed.) When you run your ball bearing bit along the spindle, the follower (with the marker on it.) will trace the spindle, leaving you with the marker's out-line of your new template. then all you need to do is cut it out, and then re-mount the template in your original location, to make copy/ re-production of the spindle. Now what can make this fun, is Make any spindle you want, and once done, you can use the same set-up as I described. to copy your original, so you can make more... The Legacy's template follower can be used for many things other then just re-producing from start to finish idioms. The Legacy is NOT a copy lathe, but it can be used as one. I personalty use the template follower for detail work, like side reeding a thin spindle, where I know a side cutting bit router bearing will slip and under cut what I plan to make. (exp. the cups that I have made over the last few weekends) Legacy made a few y ears ago, a video called Profile following. in this video they used a template to make a number of different idioms by using the follower. The sky is the limit. By using some simple ideas. you can make much more then you ever dreamed of. What do you all think? any and all comments are (as always) Welcome. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Working toward a Legacy Mill
I just add them to the email if your not using email to post messages send one to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com and attach your pics to that and we all should get them unless the picturs are too big to email Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rg Max Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2018 4:31 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill New bee here to post pictures of my Legacy - tried three times - write for pictures On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:55 AM, MWFwrote: Arkady and all others, Here is a link to their website: http://dicoproducts.com/products.php?gid=5 The ones I have used are the: 4 inch (diameter) Wheel Brush 4 inch (diameter) Flap Brush They come in 3 levels of "stiffness" and are colored accordingly - Coarse - Gray, Medium - Orange, and Fine - Blue (softest) I have used all 3 levels of coarseness and am VERY VERY HAPPY with them. They will outlast a wire bristled wheel 100 to one! You don't get those little wires coming off and hitting you in the face. Nor do they leave the little pieces of wire all over your work area when you are finished. Price-wise, they may be 2x the price - but I can assure you - WELL WORTH more than that! Example: I have a outdoor BBQ grill that needed major clean-up. In the past, I used wire wheels to clean it all down before repainting (high temp paint). It was quite a chore and I'd go through a couple wire wheels (good brand name products - not cheap China junk). This past Spring (a year ago), I tackled the job again. In preparation I bought 2 4" Nyalox wheels. I finished the job using only one wheel. I measured its diameter and compared it to the new/unused one. Imperceptible difference in their diameters! Group Members - if you are reading this - has anyone else ever heard of the Nyalox brushes? Have you used them? Your thoughts? If you have not ever used them - but use wire wheels, I recommend you switch to Nyalox immediately. (Full disclosure: I do not work for Nyalox or any business that sells them; nor do I own stock in them. I'm just a very impressed customer.) Mac _ _ -Original Message- From: Arkady Paka Sent: Jan 24, 2018 1:50 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Working toward a Legacy Mill Hello Mac Nyalox have many items. Which one you use? Arkady. 2018-01-24 7:45 GMT+02:00 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills : Hello Ira those are nice table legs, (Beautiful wood!) A barley twist leg could be done in 45 min if you start form scratch. But there are ways to get the job done much faster is you plan,and remove the waist before putting the wood on the Legacy. Mike Pung has shared his radio lathe duplicator with us in the group. ( http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Pugn3.htm) If I had to bet, He could make those legs in less then half of the time I could make those on the Legacy alone. Having said that, there is almost, always more then one way to do anything. If you use your lathe, a peeling cut with a skew, can remove wood very fast, if you can get the wood close to finish size before you put it on the Legacy, your production time will be much shorter... (How you do that is up to you.) ;-) Mac. what you are thinking of is called a reversing gear. so you can make both left and right pitches on the Legacy. A reminder to everyone, OUR favorite son.(Mr. Tim...) Made a number of quick change gear sets, not so long ago. I own one and Love it. I don't know if he is willing to make them again, but I do know that he has the files and might be persuaded to have someone else make them... When there is a will there is ALWAYS a way to get the job done. But asking if the first step. ;-) Its time for me to hit the hay now. Have a good night. C.A.G. On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:03 PM, Ira S. Vest wrote: Mac so you are only the second person to catch that all 4 legs twisted the same way. That was one of the first things I did with a twist leg. Here is the legs I’m working on now for 2 end tables. They are Black Walnut. I wiped one with mineral spirits to show the color. Just curious but how long does it take you all with the LOM? Ira Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:51 AM MWF wrote: Ira, Nice sofa table. I notice that all 4 legs have their "twist" going the same direction. On a Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM), if you have the adapter/gear piece (don't recall its proper name) that is placed into the gear train, you are able to produce twists in the opposite direction. That's a really nice feature. As regards sanding: