RE: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-26 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Bill,
   Use a copy of the profile(any profile at all) and enlarge it until it is 
the size of actual profile, glue it to cardboard, cut it out and you’ll have a 
template to use... Joe 

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RE: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-26 Thread bulkeley 
Does legacy have the profiles of the combination bits to download  they are not 
on the designer kit templates

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of John Hennen
Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2020 7:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

 

>From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings for 
>split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a line.  
>As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut them then do 
>it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as a FREE download 
>to anyone that wants to download them.  

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

FYI:

 

A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the 
patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain 
the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted 
protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.

A U.S. trademark generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in commerce 
and defended against infringement.

Copyright protection is for a limited term. For works created after January 1, 
1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the author. For works 
"made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by a small business), 
the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year of its first 
publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever 
expires first. 

Michael

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 ] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Height gauge

 

Good suggestion.

You never know until you ask...

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens mailto:rtjurg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making 
them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Denson

That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 

I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 

I don't think its a good idea.

 

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey fellers, 

I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 

I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 

Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley mailto:apteryx...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!

 

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork mailto:rhp...@gmail.com> > wrote:



On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:

Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

 

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.

Cheers

Roger in UK 

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Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-26 Thread M.W.Foscue 
John,On behalf of The Group - THANK YOU!We appreciate all the "support and cooperation" that ya'll and the various members of our Group have fostered and maintained over the many years.I realize at times the "relationship" may have been strained - but, for the most part, things got worked out/resolved.For that - I am thankful.I hope that the relationship we have between Legacy and The Legacy Group continues to be as good as it is - and perhaps gets even better (if that's appropriate).Thanks again - and please give our "Best" to Cindy and Andy.Mac-Original Message-
From: John Hennen 
Sent: May 26, 2020 5:29 PM
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings for split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a line.  As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut them then do it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as a FREE download to anyone that wants to download them.  On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:FYI: A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.A U.S. trademark generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in commerce and defended against infringement.Copyright protection is for a limited term. For works created after January 1, 1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the author. For works "made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by a small business), the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever expires first. Michael From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Height gauge Good suggestion.You never know until you ask... C.A.G. On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens  wrote:   Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making them anymore than perhaps they won't mind. On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello DensonThat is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a copy infringement, I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. I don't think its a good idea. With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit. C.A.G. On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:   Hey fellers, I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, $90. Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?Sent from Denson's iPhoneOn May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!  On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork  wrote:On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out several times but most of the time I find them right away) Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be a small metric thread rather than American.CheersRoger in UK -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/b17d2a09-5a32-4e59-bdbc-e95375c3334f%40googlegroups.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit

RE: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Kratky 
That was easy….

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hennen
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

 

>From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings for 
>split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a line.  
>As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut them then do 
>it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as a FREE download 
>to anyone that wants to download them.  

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky  wrote:

FYI:

 

A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the 
patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain 
the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted 
protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.

A U.S. trademark generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in commerce 
and defended against infringement.

Copyright protection is for a limited term. For works created after January 1, 
1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the author. For works 
"made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by a small business), 
the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year of its first 
publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its creation, whichever 
expires first. 

Michael

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Height gauge

 

Good suggestion.

You never know until you ask...

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens  
wrote: 

 

 

Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making 
them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Denson

That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 

I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 

I don't think its a good idea.

 

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote: 

 

 

Hey fellers, 

I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 

I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 

Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?

Sent from Denson's iPhone

 

On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!

 

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork  wrote:



On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:

Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

 

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.

Cheers

Roger in UK 

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Re: patents, copyrights, trademarks

2020-05-26 Thread John Hennen 
>From the legacy perspective... Make them! Tim has been given the drawings
for split nuts, bearings and if he needs anything else he can drop andy a
line.  As for the design kit, go for it! if you have a laser and can cut
them then do it! we give the DXF patterns of all the bits on our website as
a FREE download to anyone that wants to download them.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM Michael Kratky 
wrote:

> FYI:
>
>
>
> A U.S. *utility patent*, is generally granted for 20 years from the date
> the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to
> maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally
> granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is
> granted.
>
> A U.S. t*rademark *generally lasts as long as the trademark is used in
> commerce and defended against infringement.
>
> *Copyright protection* is for a limited term. For works created after
> January 1, 1978, copyrights last for 70 years after the death of the
> author. For works "made for hire" (covering the usual type of work owned by
> a small business), the copyright lasts for a term of 95 years from the year
> of its first publication or a term of 120 years from the year of its
> creation, whichever expires first.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 25, 2020 11:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Height gauge
>
>
>
> Good suggestion.
>
> You never know until you ask...
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020, 11:14:59 PM EDT, Ryan Jurgens <
> rtjurg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't
> making them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Denson
>
> That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to
> those profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything
> with a copy infringement,
>
> I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is
> involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the
> worst, and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure.
>
> I don't think its a good idea.
>
>
>
> With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the
> market is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the
> profit.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey fellers,
>
> I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200.
>
> I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know
> who has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For
> the 3, $90.
>
> Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:
>
> 
>
> If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of
> Wixey products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier
> upgrade?  I have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had
> them fall out several times but most of the time I find them right away)
>
>
>
> Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it
> may be a small metric thread rather than American.
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger in UK
>
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Re: Templates

2020-05-26 Thread Bawdsey64 
Hi Denson
If my memory serves me right here is the reason Legacy stopped making the 
templates.
Legacy outsourced the job of making the templates and overtime the quality 
dropped off.  There were burn marks and indentations around the various 
template cut outs which meant that the user got an imperfect template profile. 
So what you might say, others would possibly take the view that they had paid 
$X and expected near perfection.  The company that Legacy outsourced to tried 
to fix the problem with a new laser but apparently that had too much power and 
so the templates fell off the Legacy price list.  The reason I know I was their 
agent for the UK and Europe.
 
Now please bear in mind we are going back to around 2007 and laser technology, 
user knowledge and use has changed significantly.  I spoke to a friend today 
who has an Epilog Laser, top of the line model, and he said  that today's 
lasers are far superior and easier to control, they even tell you the settings 
for the different material. .
 
Why is $90.00 expensive when you get what you want and that you can get 
the job done?  Life is too short, you may be dead by the time you find a 
cheaper supplier.  Try lending him your set that is a zero cost solution but 
you may have to drive or mail them.
 
Cheers
Roger in UK






From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Received: 26/05/2020 04:25:30 +01:00
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
I hadn’t planned on selling them pre se. if someone one they can pay the cost 
of making direct from him. If that’s a problem we’ll sorry I mentioned it. Just 
a sorry azz thing that they quite making them when guys like us still want to 
use their s@&/t.


Sent from Denson's iPhone

On May 25, 2020, at 10:12 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:




Hello Denson
That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 
I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 
I don't think its a good idea.

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

C.A.G.

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills  wrote:


Hey fellers, 
I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 
I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 
Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?


Sent from Denson's iPhone

On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley  wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!


On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM ITwoodwork mailto:rhp...@gmail.com]> wrote:



On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:
Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.
Cheers
Roger in UK 
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Re: A Question of Technique

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis 
Jon
I just put  blank the between centers It does not even have to be square 
i:e 2.5 inches by 3inches,Just have to go steady. Of course it does help if 
it close to the dia. that you require, However if you do want to make it 
octagonal just lock the spindle a few times and run the router along it.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 4:24:29 PM UTC+1, The Viking wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> I’ve got a question of technique; hopefully not too basic.
>
>
> My daughter asked me to make her a couple small patio tables, and I 
> started with the legs. I used my jointer to get two edges of white oak 
> stock flat and square; then moved on to the table saw to mill the other two 
> edges to get blanks 1 ¾ x 1 ¾ x 20. I mounted the Russ V inspired milling 
> table on my LOM 900 to cut out the mortises with a 3/8 straight router bit. 
> Then I removed the milling table, installed index hubs on the blanks and 
> mounted them on the Legacy for spindle work to make them round with a 
> slight taper. Add three coves near the top and a couple near the bottom and 
> I’ve got nice looking table legs.
>
>
> As I was doing all this, the question crossed my mind: could I have done 
> all this on the LOM? From squaring to mortises to tapering and rounding all 
> while on the Legacy in the spindle turning set-up?
>
>
> I asked Curt this question. He told me that he does his mortises on the 
> Legacy in the spindle mode, but he’s found that it’s necessary to lock the 
> tail stock end as well as the head stock. He suggested that I post the 
> question to the group to see what others do.
>
>
> So, may I ask for the forum’s wisdom. What are the steps you take to make 
> your round table legs?
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>  
>
> Jon
>

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A Question of Technique

2020-05-26 Thread The Viking 



Hello all,


I’ve got a question of technique; hopefully not too basic.


My daughter asked me to make her a couple small patio tables, and I started 
with the legs. I used my jointer to get two edges of white oak stock flat 
and square; then moved on to the table saw to mill the other two edges to 
get blanks 1 ¾ x 1 ¾ x 20. I mounted the Russ V inspired milling table on 
my LOM 900 to cut out the mortises with a 3/8 straight router bit. Then I 
removed the milling table, installed index hubs on the blanks and mounted 
them on the Legacy for spindle work to make them round with a slight taper. 
Add three coves near the top and a couple near the bottom and I’ve got nice 
looking table legs.


As I was doing all this, the question crossed my mind: could I have done 
all this on the LOM? From squaring to mortises to tapering and rounding all 
while on the Legacy in the spindle turning set-up?


I asked Curt this question. He told me that he does his mortises on the 
Legacy in the spindle mode, but he’s found that it’s necessary to lock the 
tail stock end as well as the head stock. He suggested that I post the 
question to the group to see what others do.


So, may I ask for the forum’s wisdom. What are the steps you take to make 
your round table legs?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Jon

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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Richard could you post a few pictures of your REVO  I would very much like to 
see it.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 04:28:56 AM EDT, Richard Ellis 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi CurtHave now been able to reply. The Revo that I managed to persuade the 
owner to part with. It was first bought by an old member of this group ( 
Maccwag ) or some name like that ---All bells and whistles __ I have put a Vari 
power drive to the headstock ---so much better and a live tailstock. That I 
made when I had my metal work lathe. And off course the longer rails from the 
900. Some important bits missing from that. It ,the 900 does come in handy when 
planing small bits of tough wood.All the best Richard

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 3:20:11 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
 Hello and Good morning.
Making a high-bread Revo is something that I would like to know more about. 
Please let us know what you do and how you did what you did, on this project.
One small note.   16mm full supported linear slides fit the Legacy alum, rail 
like a glove, If you are going to modifie your machine, I rec e mend it over 
the old glides/slides.https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND- Linear-0-78-47-Bearing- 
Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_ 1_12?dchild=1=16mm+ 
linear+rails=1590329891& sr=8-12 

C.A.G.
On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:23:54 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  
wrote:  
 
 
​Hi Richard

You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, they 
I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they need it 
whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in the case of 
Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the barricade. I 
sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now since retirement I 
have helped a couple move on. 

You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the Legacy", 
the UK version of the game.

Never mind eh!

Roger



​




​From: Richard EllisReceived: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00To: Legacy Ornamental 
MillsI have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )The 900 came with the Z 
and various other bits and bobs, although some are half missing bits, i:e to 
make any use of themThe bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust 
shields and leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came 
with the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about it's 
behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a bit of a 
hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the Revo even 
better.In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on this 
site from you lately.Keep safe in this lock downRichard

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RE: Posting replies to members

2020-05-26 Thread bulkeley 
Yes got this message too

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 6:12 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Posting replies to members

 

Hi Bill

 This is strange I have tried to post by the REPLY method as I am doing now. 
Will see if it works!!!

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Bill

 

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 > On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 5:42 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
Subject: Posting replies to members

 

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course send an email to them both but wanted it to show on this group  Any 
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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis 
Hi Curt
Have now been able to reply. The Revo that I managed to persuade the owner 
to part with. It was first bought by an old member of this group ( Maccwag 
) or some name like that ---All bells and whistles __ I have put a Vari 
power drive to the headstock ---so much better and a live tailstock. 
That I made when I had my metal work lathe. And off course the longer rails 
from the 900. Some important bits missing from that. It ,the 900 does come 
in handy when planing small bits of tough wood.
All the best
 Richard

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 3:20:11 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good morning.
>
> Making a high-bread Revo is something that I would like to know more 
> about. 
> Please let us know what you do and how you did what you did, on this 
> project.
>
> One small note.   16mm full supported linear slides fit the Legacy alum, 
> rail like a glove, If you are going to modifie your machine, I rec e mend 
> it over the old glides/slides.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND-Linear-0-78-47-Bearing-Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1=16mm+linear+rails=1590329891=8-12
>  
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:23:54 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  > wrote: 
>
>
> ​Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> ​
>
>
> ​
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis 
Roger
You are quite right about me being no god at hunt the legacy. I am not much 
good at most things, but muddle through!!!?

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:23:51 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> ​Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> ​
>
>
> ​
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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Re: Posting replies to members

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis 
Hi Bill
 This is strange I have tried to post by the REPLY method as I am doing 
now. Will see if it works!!!

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RE: Posting replies to members

2020-05-26 Thread bulkeley 
I can see this message Richard

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 5:42 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Posting replies to members

 

For some reason I can't post a Reply to Bill or Roger on the Group I can of 
course send an email to them both but wanted it to show on this group  Any 
ideas as to why ??

Richard U.K.

 

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Posting replies to members

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For some reason I can't post a Reply to Bill or Roger on the Group I can of 
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Any ideas as to why ??
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RE: Height gauge

2020-05-26 Thread bulkeley 
Give the templates away for free as a gift between friends but charge $90 
postage and handling that way no money has been exchanged for a item that’s how 
the Chinese do it selling knock off stuff

 

Bill 

 

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 On Behalf Of Ryan Jurgens
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2020 1:15 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Height gauge

 

Why doesn't someone just call Legacy and see if it is ok? If tbey aren't making 
them anymore than perhaps they won't mind.

 

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:12 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Denson

That is a good offer, but Legacy and or Magnate, owns the copy writes to those 
profiles/templates...  I think we may have a problem selling anything with a 
copy infringement, 

I would suggest if you want a copy for your self. do so, but when money is 
involved Legal areas are a bit cloudy,   Which means lawyers... at the worst, 
and Making Legacy (the comp.) Mad, to be sure. 

I don't think its a good idea.

 

With products like this, there really is not any money to be made. the market 
is just not there. Why take the chances, the penalty far out way the profit.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, May 25, 2020, 05:30:56 PM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey fellers, 

I got a set of the design router templates when I bought my used LOM 1200. 

I have a friend who wants a set of templates so I contacted a guy I know who 
has a laser engraver/cnc who says he can duplicate them for $30 ea. For the 3, 
$90. 

Is that a good price or is there a cheaper way?

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On May 25, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Donald Donley mailto:apteryx...@gmail.com> > wrote:



If you can't find what you are looking for - Woodcraft sells a number of Wixey 
products that may serve a a great substitute - good luck!

 

 

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On Monday, 25 May 2020 00:19:40 UTC+1, legacy woodworking wrote:

Does anyone know where Legacy got the height gauge for the carrier upgrade?  I 
have somehow lost one of the little buttons on mine (I have had them fall out 
several times but most of the time I find them right away)

 

Do you have a photo of the actual height gauge less the missing part, it may be 
a small metric thread rather than American.

Cheers

Roger in UK 

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