Re: Centering chuck?

[M.W.Foscue]

Tim Ziegler,

At one point there was discussion here regarding that. 
You were "tagged" as being referred to as either Tim Z or Tim 2 (take your 
pick) - since we all kind of agree Tim Krause in Oregon is Tim 1 or Tim K (take 
your pick).

Have a Blessed weekend, all ya'll - and stay warm. (Bill "D-U" excepted of 
course - as it's summer Down-Under).
Mac
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Sent: Jan 5, 2024 10:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Centering chuck?

Please be more specific to the Tim you're talking too. I was confused till I 
scrolled down and saw it was Tim Woodard. 
I know we have at least 4 Tim's now so just for clarification reasons I guess.
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork  Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote:
 
Hello Tim
 
The Legacy (most modals) has a 1x8 thread on the headstock. 
The REVO, Modal 200 and some of the Wood Chuck machine did not have the same 
headstock. 
But the 900, 1000ex, 1500 and 1800. all had the 1x8 threaded headstock.
 
I hope this helps?
 
C.A.G.
 

On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 10:56:04 AM EST, Tim Woodard 
mailto:twoodard...@gmail.com)> wrote:
 
 
I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do I 
need, and what is everyone using.
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Re: Centering chuck?

[Tim Ziegler]

Please be more specific to the Tim you're talking too.
I was confused till I scrolled down and saw it was Tim Woodard.
I know we have at least 4 Tim's now so just for clarification reasons I
guess.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Tim
>
> The Legacy (most modals) has a 1x8 thread on the headstock.
> The REVO, Modal 200 and some of the Wood Chuck machine did not have the
> same headstock.
> But the 900, 1000ex, 1500 and 1800. all had the 1x8 threaded headstock.
>
> I hope this helps?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 10:56:04 AM EST, Tim Woodard <
> twoodard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do
> I need, and what is everyone using.
>
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RE: Centering chuck?

[bulkeley]

The revo has a 5/8 strait shaft so you need a adaptor with what ever chuck 
thread you have on the outside and a 5/8 hole down the middle to fit the revo 
shaft .most of all the other legacys take any 1inch by 8 threads per inch 
chuck. 

I use several different size chucks on my legacys from little 2 inch dia chuck 
right up to a big 5 inch if it fits my wood lathe it fits my legacy

Which is really handy for swapping from legacy to lathe and back again for 
things like sanding 

 

Bill  

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2024 3:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Centering chuck?

 

Hello Tim

 

The Legacy (most modals) has a 1x8 thread on the headstock. 

The REVO, Modal 200 and some of the Wood Chuck machine did not have the same 
headstock. 

But the 900, 1000ex, 1500 and 1800. all had the 1x8 threaded headstock.

 

I hope this helps?

 

C.A.G.

 

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mailto:twoodard...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do I 
need, and what is everyone using. 

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Re: Centering chuck?

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello Tim
The Legacy (most modals) has a 1x8 thread on the headstock. The REVO, Modal 200 
and some of the Wood Chuck machine did not have the same headstock. But the 
900, 1000ex, 1500 and 1800. all had the 1x8 threaded headstock.
I hope this helps?
C.A.G.
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 10:56:04 AM EST, Tim Woodard 
 wrote:  
 
 I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do I 
need, and what is everyone using.

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Centering chuck?

[Tim Woodard]

I want to add a centering chuck on my LOM. what size arbor. center hole do 
I need, and what is everyone using.

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Re: REVO storage

[Tim Ziegler]

I will always be a woodworking guy just will not be commercially doing it
anymore . (well ok not as much lol)
Takes the fun out of it.
I have a box I am just finishing now actually with splined mitered corners
and the cover is a Curly maple
wrap around a walnut center. I may share once its sanded up and finished.
See if the spirit moves me to share. lol
I do a ton of box jointed boxes and also have the "I Box" by Incra Jig.
like I said along with my Omni jig and
home made ones I have my bases covered but sure would like to see how fast
and efficient the LOM does it.
So keep us posted Dan.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 8:09 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Good morning everyone.
>
> Dan I am "NOT" a cabinet maker, (I know Tim is/was...) I really like what
> you've done. But your explanation leaves me somewhat confused? (No frame of
> reference for me.)( I don't DO BOXES!)  ;-)
> All that I can say is , Keep up the good work. And Thank you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 06:59:32 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Dan,
>
> Very impressive to hear. The revo is maybe where i will test too.
> Great information to know. I will just need to make some more play
> time which has been a bit sparse here as of late.
> Keep me posted and would love to see some pix of your finished product
> and of course you're set up.
> More later.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 3:09 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the template cutting offer.  Not needed yet.
>
> This will be the second attempt at finger joints, the first having turned
>  out equal to or better than indexed saw cut ones. Using walnut and a
> straight HSS bit, the tear out was far less than the saw and the accuracy
>  was quite good just using the crank verified by the ruler.  Because the
> spacing was so accurate, methinks that I can stack cut the sides and
> the ends separately.  Usually I stack cut ends and sides together with
> offset. The current saw setup has severely limited width capacity because
> of a power feeder installation that I would have to remove (very heavy).
> But the REVO easily reaches 36" with no incremental creep like on some
> jigs.
> Well, the creep would be the operator.
>
> The fun part of this has been using FreeCAD to design the case and drawers
> parametrically for the exercise of doing it.  This means that if I need to
> adjust
> a dimension that affects other dimensions (which ones don"t?) all I have
> to
> do is adjust a spreadsheet cell and the model recalculates everything.
> It's
> really slick.  Combine that with exploded part capability, a whole new
> world
> of planning has opened up. Shop drawings look professional complete with
> title blocks!
> DanK
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:07:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Hey Dan,
>
> Super excited to see how the finger jointing comes out. I have been going
> to try it for
> finger jointing at some point too. But I have the large 24 inch Omni
> Jig so I am reluctant to
> set up the LOM for it. Just know you're going to need a
> sacrificial backup board on the exit side.
> Even with Spiral bits I still get some tearout.
> Let me know if you need any templates cut on the laser for that or are you
> doing the indexing
> method?
> Either way let me know.
>
> thanks.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 11:20 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Curt for reposting the pics.  I didn't insert them as
> thumbnails, so will that make them adjustable?
>
> The tube under the router is a 4" dust collection (HVAC) tube hooked up to
> a 3 HP Jet cyclone.  I suspended the tube on chains (not really visible) so
> it can bump the ends of travel without stopping the carriage prematurely.
> Combined with the plastic shield you see in front of the router that should
> take care of a high percentage of dust collection issues.  The connection
> to the collector is the flex tube you see, but the flex is currently
> connected to a 4" floor wand laying on my material cart behind. Hasn't been
> tried yet, but it's about to get a workout.  All the drawers and the
> container frame for the REVO storage will be finger jointed on the REVO.
> DanK
>
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>
> Lets try this Tim.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 06:51:12 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am not able to open those 

Re: REVO storage

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Good morning everyone.
Dan I am "NOT" a cabinet maker, (I know Tim is/was...) I really like what 
you've done. But your explanation leaves me somewhat confused? (No frame of 
reference for me.)( I don't DO BOXES!)  ;-)All that I can say is , Keep up the 
good work. And Thank you.
C.A.G.
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 06:59:32 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Hey Dan, 
Very impressive to hear. The revo is maybe where i will test too. Great 
information to know. I will just need to make some more play time which has 
been a bit sparse here as of late. Keep me posted and would love to see some 
pix of your finished product and of course you're set up. More later. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 3:09 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Thanks for the template cutting offer.  Not needed yet.
This will be the second attempt at finger joints, the first having turned out 
equal to or better than indexed saw cut ones. Using walnut and a straight HSS 
bit, the tear out was far less than the saw and the accuracy was quite good 
just using the crank verified by the ruler.  Because the spacing was so 
accurate, methinks that I can stack cut the sides and the ends separately.  
Usually I stack cut ends and sides together with offset. The current saw setup 
has severely limited width capacity because of a power feeder installation that 
I would have to remove (very heavy).  But the REVO easily reaches 36" with no 
incremental creep like on some jigs. Well, the creep would be the operator.

The fun part of this has been using FreeCAD to design the case and drawers 
parametrically for the exercise of doing it.  This means that if I need to 
adjust a dimension that affects other dimensions (which ones don"t?) all I have 
to do is adjust a spreadsheet cell and the model recalculates everything. It's 
really slick.  Combine that with exploded part capability, a whole new world of 
planning has opened up. Shop drawings look professional complete withtitle 
blocks! 
DanK
On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:07:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Hey Dan,
Super excited to see how the finger jointing comes out. I have been going to 
try it for finger jointing at some point too. But I have the large 24 inch Omni 
Jig so I am reluctant to set up the LOM for it. Just know you're going to need 
a sacrificial backup board on the exit side. Even with Spiral bits I still get 
some tearout. Let me know if you need any templates cut on the laser for that 
or are you doing the indexingmethod? Either way let me know. 
thanks.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 11:20 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

Thank you Curt for reposting the pics.  I didn't insert them as thumbnails, so 
will that make them adjustable?
The tube under the router is a 4" dust collection (HVAC) tube hooked up to a 3 
HP Jet cyclone.  I suspended the tube on chains (not really visible) so it can 
bump the ends of travel without stopping the carriage prematurely.  Combined 
with the plastic shield you see in front of the router that should take care of 
a high percentage of dust collection issues.  The connection to the collector 
is the flex tube you see, but the flex is currently connected to a 4" floor 
wand laying on my material cart behind. Hasn't been tried yet, but it's about 
to get a workout.  All the drawers and the container frame for the REVO storage 
will be finger jointed on the REVO.  
DanK


On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

 Lets try this Tim.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 06:51:12 AM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 I am not able to open those pictures any bigger then on the page to really see 
what you have Dan, can you send them in a different format?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 11:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 All Right Dan!  I like that storage area for the REVO!Good job. ;-)
Bye the way, What is that galvanized ductwork up/under your carriage? (some 
king of dust control?)
C.A.G.
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 01:33:12 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
   
Hi Everyone.  So far so good for 2024.  (From a joke abouta man who was proving 
that jumping off a tall building was notfatal.)




Here's the REVOstorage board in all it's glory.  Made from shop scraps andusing 
up left over paint. It's completely symmetric so the back sideis available too. 
 The drawer unit shown previously will be nextfor construction and will be 
nestled into the right side of thestand. It will be show wood, probably walnut. 
I have a stash onreserve for other woodworking 

Re: REVO storage

[Tim Ziegler]

Hey Dan,

Very impressive to hear. The revo is maybe where i will test too.
Great information to know. I will just need to make some more play
time which has been a bit sparse here as of late.
Keep me posted and would love to see some pix of your finished product
and of course you're set up.
More later.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 3:09 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Thanks for the template cutting offer.  Not needed yet.
>
> This will be the second attempt at finger joints, the first having turned
>  out equal to or better than indexed saw cut ones. Using walnut and a
> straight HSS bit, the tear out was far less than the saw and the accuracy
>  was quite good just using the crank verified by the ruler.  Because the
> spacing was so accurate, methinks that I can stack cut the sides and
> the ends separately.  Usually I stack cut ends and sides together with
> offset. The current saw setup has severely limited width capacity because
> of a power feeder installation that I would have to remove (very heavy).
> But the REVO easily reaches 36" with no incremental creep like on some
> jigs.
> Well, the creep would be the operator.
>
> The fun part of this has been using FreeCAD to design the case and drawers
> parametrically for the exercise of doing it.  This means that if I need to
> adjust
> a dimension that affects other dimensions (which ones don"t?) all I have
> to
> do is adjust a spreadsheet cell and the model recalculates everything.
> It's
> really slick.  Combine that with exploded part capability, a whole new
> world
> of planning has opened up. Shop drawings look professional complete with
> title blocks!
> DanK
> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:07:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Hey Dan,
>>
>> Super excited to see how the finger jointing comes out. I have been going
>> to try it for
>> finger jointing at some point too. But I have the large 24 inch Omni
>> Jig so I am reluctant to
>> set up the LOM for it. Just know you're going to need a
>> sacrificial backup board on the exit side.
>> Even with Spiral bits I still get some tearout.
>> Let me know if you need any templates cut on the laser for that or are
>> you doing the indexing
>> method?
>> Either way let me know.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 11:20 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Curt for reposting the pics.  I didn't insert them as
>>> thumbnails, so will that make them adjustable?
>>>
>>> The tube under the router is a 4" dust collection (HVAC) tube hooked up
>>> to a 3 HP Jet cyclone.  I suspended the tube on chains (not really visible)
>>> so it can bump the ends of travel without stopping the carriage
>>> prematurely.  Combined with the plastic shield you see in front of the
>>> router that should take care of a high percentage of dust collection
>>> issues.  The connection to the collector is the flex tube you see, but the
>>> flex is currently connected to a 4" floor wand laying on my material cart
>>> behind. Hasn't been tried yet, but it's about to get a workout.  All the
>>> drawers and the container frame for the REVO storage will be finger jointed
>>> on the REVO.
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>>>
 Lets try this Tim.

 C.A.G.

 On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 06:51:12 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
 timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:


 I am not able to open those pictures any bigger then on the page to
 really see what you have
 Dan, can you send them in a different format?

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell


 On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 11:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
 Mills  wrote:

 All Right Dan!  I like that storage area for the REVO!
 Good job. ;-)

 Bye the way, What is that galvanized ductwork up/under your carriage?
 (some king of dust control?)

 C.A.G.

 On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 01:33:12 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com <
 cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Hi Everyone.  So far so good for 2024.  (From a joke about a man who
 was proving that jumping off a tall building was not fatal.)


 Here's the REVO storage board in all it's glory.  Made from shop scraps
 and using up left over paint. It's completely symmetric so the back side is
 available too.  The drawer unit shown previously will be next for
 

Re: REVO storage

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

Thanks for the template cutting offer.  Not needed yet.

This will be the second attempt at finger joints, the first having turned
 out equal to or better than indexed saw cut ones. Using walnut and a 
straight HSS bit, the tear out was far less than the saw and the accuracy
 was quite good just using the crank verified by the ruler.  Because the 
spacing was so accurate, methinks that I can stack cut the sides and 
the ends separately.  Usually I stack cut ends and sides together with 
offset. The current saw setup has severely limited width capacity because 
of a power feeder installation that I would have to remove (very heavy).  
But the REVO easily reaches 36" with no incremental creep like on some 
jigs. 
Well, the creep would be the operator.

The fun part of this has been using FreeCAD to design the case and drawers 
parametrically for the exercise of doing it.  This means that if I need to 
adjust 
a dimension that affects other dimensions (which ones don"t?) all I have to 
do is adjust a spreadsheet cell and the model recalculates everything. It's 
really slick.  Combine that with exploded part capability, a whole new 
world 
of planning has opened up. Shop drawings look professional complete with
title blocks! 
DanK
On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 11:07:24 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Hey Dan,
>
> Super excited to see how the finger jointing comes out. I have been going 
> to try it for 
> finger jointing at some point too. But I have the large 24 inch Omni 
> Jig so I am reluctant to 
> set up the LOM for it. Just know you're going to need a 
> sacrificial backup board on the exit side. 
> Even with Spiral bits I still get some tearout. 
> Let me know if you need any templates cut on the laser for that or are you 
> doing the indexing
> method? 
> Either way let me know. 
>
> thanks.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 11:20 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Curt for reposting the pics.  I didn't insert them as 
>> thumbnails, so will that make them adjustable?
>>
>> The tube under the router is a 4" dust collection (HVAC) tube hooked up 
>> to a 3 HP Jet cyclone.  I suspended the tube on chains (not really visible) 
>> so it can bump the ends of travel without stopping the carriage 
>> prematurely.  Combined with the plastic shield you see in front of the 
>> router that should take care of a high percentage of dust collection 
>> issues.  The connection to the collector is the flex tube you see, but the 
>> flex is currently connected to a 4" floor wand laying on my material cart 
>> behind. Hasn't been tried yet, but it's about to get a workout.  All the 
>> drawers and the container frame for the REVO storage will be finger jointed 
>> on the REVO.  
>> DanK
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Lets try this Tim.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 06:51:12 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not able to open those pictures any bigger then on the page to 
>>> really see what you have 
>>> Dan, can you send them in a different format?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 11:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>> All Right Dan!  I like that storage area for the REVO!
>>> Good job. ;-)
>>>
>>> Bye the way, What is that galvanized ductwork up/under your carriage? 
>>> (some king of dust control?)
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 01:33:12 PM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com <
>>> cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone.  So far so good for 2024.  (From a joke about a man who was 
>>> proving that jumping off a tall building was not fatal.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's the REVO storage board in all it's glory.  Made from shop scraps 
>>> and using up left over paint. It's completely symmetric so the back side is 
>>> available too.  The drawer unit shown previously will be next for 
>>> construction and will be nestled into the right side of the stand. It will 
>>> be show wood, probably walnut. I have a stash on reserve for other 
>>> woodworking tills, so I'll look for other if there's not enough to go 
>>> around.  It was a good exercise in hand tools.
>>>
>>> [image: Stanley46InUse.PNG]  [image: REVOwBackboard.PNG]
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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