Re: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM  wrote:

> And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)
>
> But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.
>
> the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very
> true.
>
>
>
> I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait,
> perhaps next weekend?
>
> I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I can't take the suspense. lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Most likely next weekend???
>
> We will see.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your
> explaining
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>
>
>
> Woops.
>
> part of this message did not show up...
>
>
>
> Here is the hole message. (second try!)
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit
> my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>
> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when
> I'm working, But today
>
> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>
>
>
> This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was
> doing/ how this jig works.
>
> I think everyone will enjoy this info.
>
>
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this jig
> work.
>
>
>
>
>
> The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the tables supports, (It dose not move with
> the table.)
>
> The Planet gear is fixed to the table. so it moves around the sun gear
> when the table turns.
>
> the planet gear has a fixed pin on it. so as it moves the arm moves the
> table. thus making an
>
> oval as the table turns. I am using my Legacy/overhead router for the
> cutting. (at this time.)
>
>
>
> I Hope the photo's help explain what is happening here?
>
> photo 1 shows the "Sun" gear lifted up, a post, is running through the
> ball bearing center. (its pined under the table, to keep it form moving .)
>
> photo 2 shows the linkage. (as the table moves the planate gear rotates
> moving the pin, making the table move back and forth as the planate turns
> around the sun gear.)
>
> Photo3  shows the planate gear/pin and table with linear rails.
>
> Photo's 4&5 show the over all set-up on my Legacy (Ornamental Mill.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 03:02:54 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> It's -5 outside today. (thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit
> my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>
> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when
> I'm working, But today
>
> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>
>
>
> This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was
> doing/ how this jig works.
>
> I think everyone will enjoy this info.
>
>
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this jig
> work.
>
>
>
> The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the tables supports, (It dose not move with
> the table.)
>
> The Planet gear is fixed to the table. so it moves around the sun gear
> when the table turns.
>
> the planet gear has a fixed pin on it. so as it moves the arm moves the
> table. thus making an
>
> oval as the table turns. I am using my Legacy/overhead router for the
> cutting. (at this time.)
>
>
>
> I Hope the photo's help explain what is happening here?
>
> photo 1 shows the sun gear lifted up running through the ball bearing
> center. (its pinning under the table.)
>
> photo 2 shows the linkage.
>
> Photo3  shows the planate gear/pin and table with linear rails.
>
> Photo's 4&5 show the over all set-up on my Legacy (Ornamental Mill.)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, Jan

Re: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com 
What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on 
planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have
the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel 
the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one, 
methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,
the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is
a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???

Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own 
stupidity followed by recluse spiders. 
DanK

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM  wrote:
>
>> And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hey Guys.
>>
>>  
>>
>> No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)
>>
>> But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.
>>
>> the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very 
>> true.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, 
>> perhaps next weekend?
>>
>> I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I can't take the suspense. lol 
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Most likely next weekend???
>>
>> We will see.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST,  
>> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your 
>> explaining 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>>
>>  
>>
>> Woops.
>>
>> part of this message did not show up...
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is the hole message. (second try!)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it 
>> hit my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>>
>> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when 
>> I'm working, But today
>>
>> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was 
>> doing/ how this jig works. 
>>
>> I think everyone will enjoy this info.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this 
>> jig work.  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the tables supports, (It dose not move with 
>> the table.)
>>
>> The Planet gear is fixed to the table. so it moves around the sun gear 
>> when the table turns.
>>
>> the planet gear has a fixed pin on it. so as it moves the arm moves the 
>> table. thus making an 
>>
>> oval as the table turns. I am using my Legacy/overhead router for the 
>> cutting. (at this time.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> I Hope the photo's help explain what is happening here?
>>
>> photo 1 shows the "Sun" gear lifted up, a post, is running through the 
>> ball bearing center. (its pined under the table, to keep it form moving .)
>>
>> photo 2 shows the linkage. (as the table moves the planate gear rotates 
>> moving the pin, making the table move back and forth as the planate turns 
>> around the sun gear.)
>>
>> Photo3  shows the planate gear/pin and table with linear rails.
>>
>> Photo's 4&5 show the over all set-up on my Legacy (Ornamental Mill.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 03:02:54 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> It's -5 outside today. (thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it 
>> hit my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>>
>> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when 
>> I'm working, But today
>>
>> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> This is

Re: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread Tim Ziegler 
The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about
them.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on
> planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have
> the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel
> the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one,
> methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,
> the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is
> a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???
>
> Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own
> stupidity followed by recluse spiders.
> DanK
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Guys.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)
>>>
>>> But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.
>>>
>>> the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very
>>> true.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait,
>>> perhaps next weekend?
>>>
>>> I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't take the suspense. lol
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>> Most likely next weekend???
>>>
>>> We will see.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what
>>> your explaining
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
>>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Woops.
>>>
>>> part of this message did not show up...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the hole message. (second try!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone.
>>>
>>> It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it
>>> hit my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>>>
>>> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop
>>> when I'm working, But today
>>>
>>> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was
>>> doing/ how this jig works.
>>>
>>> I think everyone will enjoy this info.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this
>>> jig work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the tables supports, (It dose not move with
>>> the table.)
>>>
>>> The Planet gear is fixed to the table. so it moves around the sun gear
>>> when the table turns.
>>>
>>> the planet gear has a fixed pin on it. so as it moves the arm moves the
>>> table. thus making an
>>>
>>> oval as the table turns. I am using my Legacy/overhead router for the
>>> cutting. (at this time.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I Hope the photo's help explain what is happening here?
>>>
>>> photo 1 shows the "Sun" gear lifted up, a post, is running through the
>>> ball bearing center. (its pined under the table, to keep it form moving .)
>>>
>>> photo 2 shows the linkage. (as the table moves the planate gear rotates
>>> moving the pin, making the table move back and forth as the planate turns
>>> around the sun gear.)
>>>
>>> Photo3  shows the planate gear/pin and table with linear rails.
>>>
>>> Photo's 4&5 show the over all set-up on my Legacy (Ornamental Mill.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15,

RE: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread bulkeley 
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about 
them. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com   
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on 

planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have

the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel 

the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one, 

methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,

the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is

a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???

 

Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own 

stupidity followed by recluse spiders. 

DanK

 

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

Hey Guys.

 

No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)

But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.

the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very true.

 

I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, 
perhaps next weekend?

I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I can't take the suspense. lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Most likely next weekend???

We will see.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your 
explaining 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

Woops.

part of this message did not show up...

 

Here is the hole message. (second try!)

 

Hello Everyone.

It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit my 
area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p

Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when I'm 
working, But today

its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)

 

This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was doing/ 
how this jig works. 

I think everyone will enjoy this info.

 

 

The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this jig work. 
 

 

 

The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the tables supports, (It dose not move with the 
table.)

The Planet gear is fixed to the table. so it moves around the sun gear when the 
table turns.

the planet gear has a fixed pin on it. so as it moves the arm moves the table. 
thus making an 

oval as the table turns. I am using my Legacy/overhead ro

Re: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread Tim Ziegler 
ugg I'll stay in MINNESOTA
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:22 PM  wrote:

>
> https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
>
>
>
> these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>
>
>
> The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about
> them.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on
>
> planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have
>
> the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel
>
> the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one,
>
> methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,
>
> the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is
>
> a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???
>
>
>
> Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own
>
> stupidity followed by recluse spiders.
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM  wrote:
>
> And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>
>
>
> Hey Guys.
>
>
>
> No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)
>
> But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.
>
> the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very
> true.
>
>
>
> I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait,
> perhaps next weekend?
>
> I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I can't take the suspense. lol
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Most likely next weekend???
>
> We will see.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your
> explaining
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Oval jig testing
>
>
>
> Woops.
>
> part of this message did not show up...
>
>
>
> Here is the hole message. (second try!)
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit
> my area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p
>
> Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when
> I'm working, But today
>
> its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)
>
>
>
> This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was
> doing/ how this jig works.
>
> I think everyone will en

RE: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread bulkeley 
Lol when your born into it its not that bad 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

ugg I'll stay in MINNESOTA


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about 
them. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com   
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on 

planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have

the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel 

the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one, 

methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,

the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is

a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???

 

Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own 

stupidity followed by recluse spiders. 

DanK

 

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

Hey Guys.

 

No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)

But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.

the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very true.

 

I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, 
perhaps next weekend?

I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:05:55 PM EST, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

I can't take the suspense. lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Most likely next weekend???

We will see.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your 
explaining 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

Woops.

part of this message did not show up...

 

Here is the hole message. (second try!)

 

Hello Everyone.

It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit my 
area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p

Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane h

RE: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread M.W.Foscue 
But Tim,
Bill (in Australia) has that "Red Back Spider".  In Minnie-Soda ya'll have the 
"Red-neck Spider". 
Haven't heard much about it biting - so much as I have heard about it drinking 
a lot of beer!
LoL!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Jan 17, 2024 12:46 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: Oval jig testing

Lol when your born into it its not that bad 
 
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

ugg I'll stay in MINNESOTA
Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler

 On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:




https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
 
these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop 
 
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about 
them. 
Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) 
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com)> wrote:




What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on 

planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have

the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel

the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one,

methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,

the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is

a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???



Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own

stupidity followed by recluse spiders.

DanK

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. 


Kind Regards,


Timothy J. Ziegler

 
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:






And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol
 
Bill
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com (mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

Hey Guys.

 

No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)

But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.

the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very true.

 

I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, 
perhaps next weekend?

I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, January 1I can't take the suspense. lol 


Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler




 On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> 
wrote:

Most likely next weekend???

We will see.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au)> wrot 


 

Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your 
explaining 

 
Bill
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:16 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing
 
Woops.

part of this message did not show up...

 

Here is the hole message. (second try!)

 

Hello Everyone.

It's -5 outside today. (Thanks Tim, for sending Bill some cold air, it hit my 
area in its way to Auz. ) ;-p

Since my shop is un-heated, (I use a propane heater to heat the shop when I'm 
working, But today

its just to cold to go out there and try to heat the shop.)

 

This is a reply that I gave to a private e-mail Explaining what I was doing/ 
how this jig works. 

I think everyone will enjoy this info.

 


 

The Planetary gear system is the concept that I am using to make this jig work. 
 






 

 

The "Sun" Gear is pinned to the ta

RE: Oval jig testing

2024-01-16 Thread bulkeley 
Yea there is only 2 or 3 deaths a year by redback spiders and 1 or 2 by the 
brown snakes and its usually mostly tourists most Aussies know to be carful 

and don’t stir up the nasties in Australia lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 5:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Oval jig testing

 

But Tim,

Bill (in Australia) has that "Red Back Spider".  In Minnie-Soda ya'll have the 
"Red-neck Spider". 

Haven't heard much about it biting - so much as I have heard about it drinking 
a lot of beer!

LoL!

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Jan 17, 2024 12:46 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: Oval jig testing

 

Lol when your born into it its not that bad 

 

Bill

  _  

  _  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

ugg I'll stay in MINNESOTA

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

 On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=redback+spider&sca_esv=598892895&sxsrf=ACQVn09VnXEGV_HyeTN6lXAw7Kohu0BF3g%3A1705436199921&ei=J-SmZcPkN7Po1e8PuqGj4Ak&gs_ssp=eJzj4tTP1TcwNi1LMzVg9OIrSk1JSkzOViguyExJLQIAa6IIhA&oq=redbac+spider&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

these are the spiders we mostly get in the shop 

 

Bill

  _  

  _  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 2:23 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

The Recluse is nothing to sneeze at either. I've heard horror storys about 
them. 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com   
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

What I'm curious about by mentioning different number of teeth on 

planetary and sun gears is the modularity of the rotations.  If they have

the same number, after one rotation the second rotation will travel

the same path.  If the number of teeth are different by as little as one,

methinks the path of the second rotation will be different than the first,

the third different than the second etc. until the number of rotations is

a multiple of the two gear tooth numbers.  Think Spirograph.  ???

 

Yes, it's nice to work in a shop where the greatest threat is my own

stupidity followed by recluse spiders.

DanK

  _  

  _  

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Yeah pretty scary having to worry about that. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

 

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:26 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

And we thought the danger in our shops were the machines lol

 

Bill

  _  

  _  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 2:37 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Oval jig testing

 

Hey Guys.

 

No poisonous snakes or bugs any where around here Bill. ;-)

But on the flip side, the Cold can kill you as fast as any snake can.

the quote stating that , Discretion is the better part of valor is very true.

 

I too want this jig done and ready to show everyone. But I have to wait, 
perhaps next weekend?

I can only Hope and Pray. ;-)

 

C.A.G.

  _  

  _  

On Monday, January 1I can't take the suspense. lol 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

 On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 6:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Most likely next weekend???

We will see.

 

C.A.G.

  _  

  _  

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 07:14:45 PM EST, mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrot 

 

Very nice curt a video showing it working will show all exactly what your 
explaining 

 

Bill

  _  

  _