RE: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

[bulkeley]

Think I will stick to doing them with the legacy 

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

 

Good stuff.




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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https://youtu.be/pCDmwz91phM

 

 

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Re: Oval jig video

['Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

 Hello everyone.  (just got home form work.)
Thank you Dan for the kind words.The Funny/Ironic part about your video is that 
set-up was the first one that I made for my Legacy (year back.) To make a long 
story short, I worked, but not well, for me. I do believe that there is some 
commentary in our archives, but that's ancient history now.I think my new 
version should work out well for me? But time will tell.
As a Side note. I too have another Pet project, that will be working on your 
design elements like the spirograph you mentioned. (but one thing at a time. ) 
(ovals before patterns.) ;-)
Have a good night.talk to you all more latter.
C.A.G.
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:19:55 AM EST, cdkr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before at the risk 
of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love what Curt has done 
because without his realizing it yet, he has opened a door to a world of 
complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has accomplished his goal of making 
elliptical picture frames.  And 
combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfullynavigated 
through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.

If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical picture 
frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this can 
be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not need gears. The 
hard part is to envision how to translate that motion to a rotary table under a 
router.  I recognize that this video shows exactly that, and I have confirmed 
through animated drawings that this principle will work on the LOM rotary 
table. 
Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails for 
accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material above 
the metal rotary table.

The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive 
sliders.Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary 
while the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right 
anglesand  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the 
"arm" (router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and 
some props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on 
the table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this, 
too!

I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts. 
Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!
DanK
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell
On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso=9s Foster Geisman video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David 
Springetthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck 
project.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical 
turning mill. (NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his machine.) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning Elliptical 
turning.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical 
...
All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last two 
offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.
Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it and make 
a better working version for yourselves. ;-) 
C.A.G.


On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  HI Tim
Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)The 
Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .The Alum. plate $7.00
That's it.the concept came form a long time of studying.  I have been trying to 
make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs. I saw a video of Foster Geisman's 
Ornamental oval works, on You tube.I have tried at least 5 times to make an 
oval jig. (all worked but not well.) I just couldn't make this concept fit/work 
with the Legacy. I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while 
reading a paper on the Geometric chuck.(another Pet project of mine.) The hole 
thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a short time to 
gather all the parts.I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few 
days to re-work the gear linkage, tocome up with what I showed in the video.
I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing with out 
much problems.  The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of 
using the Legacy.
Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done. And 
if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk them 
through the process.Here are a 

Re: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

[Tim Ziegler]

yup good stuff for sure. Bill has been a thread cutting expert. Check out
his large nut and bolt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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Re: Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

[Tim Ziegler]

Good stuff.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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Re: Yankee Joe - Request for pics of "LOM-a-Zilla"

[Tim Ziegler]

For sure there Mac.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 1:55 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Hey Joe,
>
>
>
> Great to hear from you.
>
> Since we seem to have picked up several more members to The Group - I
> doubt they
>
> have had the pleasure of seeing your "LOM-a-Zilla".
>
> If you don't mind - would you please post some pics of it?
>
> (Ya'll are in for a T-R-E-A-T if he does!)
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
> --
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> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Jan 23, 2024 2:15 PM
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Split nut tap
>
>
> not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a
> company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines
> directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft
> piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy
> conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant
> if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own
> modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was
> about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were
> with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B.
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Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

Interesting Joe

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 1:15 PM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a
> company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines
> directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft
> piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy
> conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant
> if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own
> modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was
> about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were
> with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B.
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> I'm glad your's worked out.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they
>>> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
>>> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.
>>> DanK
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
 Hey Tim Porter,

 Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.
 What length are you looking for?
 You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this.

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell

 On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:

> Hi Bill
>
> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws
> and they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the
> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If 
> I
> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the
> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>
> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
> Sun City Center. FL 33573
> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>
> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older
> than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff
> I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have
> changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square
> profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going
> to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am 
> also
> going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead
> screw on hand.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Tim and Cathy Porter
> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
> Sun City Center FL 33573
>
>
> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>
> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it
> right or there are places that sell it I believe
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>
>
>
> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half
> nuts were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard
> acme.  The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I 
> am
> going to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the
> difference between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made
> from fully engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the
> proper tap, I should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to
> go.   BTW there is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard
> maple.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>

Re: Thread cutting router bit

[gbme...@windstream.net]

Search.  Cutting threads on wood canister.  From Woodsmith. Here is the 
idea,some members have mounted their router under the carriage.  A member made 
large wooden bolts and nuts. Don't know the gears. 
GeraldSent from my Verizon ASUS tablet

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Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

[gbme...@windstream.net]

https://youtu.be/pCDmwz91phMSent from my Verizon 
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Watch "Make Wood Threads with this Amazing Router Jig!" on YouTube

[gbme...@windstream.net]

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Yankee Joe - Request for pics of "LOM-a-Zilla"

[M.W.Foscue]

Hey Joe,

Great to hear from you.
Since we seem to have picked up several more members to The Group - I doubt they
have had the pleasure of seeing your "LOM-a-Zilla".
If you don't mind - would you please post some pics of it?
(Ya'll are in for a T-R-E-A-T if he does!)

Thanks.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Jan 23, 2024 2:15 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Split nut tap

not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a company in 
Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines directly to the 
Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft piece I needed for my 
Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy conversation with the 
company's management... moot point now but relevant if anyone in the group 
needs a length of lead screw for their own modifications... strange thing about 
it was the fact that the company was about 1/8 mile from where I was living at 
the time... the mod gods were with me for that very much needed part!... 
LOL!... Joe B.

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Re: Split nut tap

['finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills]

not important to this thread per se, but I was told years ago that a 
company in Westbury NY supplied the lead screws for the Legacy machines 
directly to the Legacy company... I went directly to them for the 16ft 
piece I needed for my Legacy length modification and had a somewhat lengthy 
conversation with the company's management... moot point now but relevant 
if anyone in the group needs a length of lead screw for their own 
modifications... strange thing about it was the fact that the company was 
about 1/8 mile from where I was living at the time... the mod gods were 
with me for that very much needed part!... LOL!... Joe B.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 11:32:12 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> I'm glad your's worked out. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they 
>> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
>> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.  
>> DanK
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tim Porter, 
>>>
>>> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.  
>>> What length are you looking for? 
>>> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this. 
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Bill

 I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws 
 and they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the 
 trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If 
 I 
 had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the 
 profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap

 Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?


 Sent from my iPhone

 Tim and Cathy Porter
 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
 Sun City Center. FL 33573
 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>

 On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:

 Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older 
 than anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff 
 I am thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have 
 changed out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square 
 profile.  I will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going 
 to reach out to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am 
 also 
 going to put a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead 
 screw on hand.


 Sent from my iPad

 Tim and Cathy Porter
 1902 Dandridge St  D7
 Sun City Center FL 33573


 H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
 C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>

 On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

 

 As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t 
 notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?

 One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it 
 right or there are places that sell it I believe 

  

 Bill

  

  

 *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
 legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
 *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
 *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap

  

 I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half 
 nuts were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard 
 acme.  The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I 
 am 
 going to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the 
 difference between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made 
 from fully engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the 
 proper tap, I should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to 
 go.   BTW there is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard 
 maple.

  

  

 Sent from my iPad

  

 Tim and Cathy Porter

 1902 Dandridge St  D7

 Sun City Center FL 33573

  

  

 H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>

 C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>



 On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

 

 I bought a tap during the original discussion, but 

Re: Split nut tap

[Tim Ziegler]

I'm glad your's worked out.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:15 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they
> nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
> I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Hey Tim Porter,
>>
>> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.
>> What length are you looking for?
>> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill
>>>
>>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and
>>> they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the
>>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I
>>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the
>>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>>
>>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than
>>> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am
>>> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed
>>> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I
>>> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out
>>> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put
>>> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>
>>>
>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t
>>> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>>>
>>> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it
>>> right or there are places that sell it I believe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts
>>> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.
>>> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going
>>> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference
>>> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully
>>> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I
>>> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there
>>> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>>
>>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>>
>>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>>
>>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.
>>> Now I'm hafta check.
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I
>>> will try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a
>>> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>>>
>>> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one
>>> is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of 

Re: Oval jig video

[Tim Ziegler]

Great information Dan and thanks so much for all your input.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 9:19 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before
> at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love
> what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened
> a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has
> accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And
> combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully
> navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.
>
> If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical
> picture
> frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this
> can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not
> need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion
> to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video
>  shows exactly
> that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle
> will work on the LOM rotary table.
>
> Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails
> for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material
> above
> the metal rotary table.
>
> The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive
> sliders.
> Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while
> the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right
> angles
> and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the
> "arm"
> (router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some
> props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on
> the
> table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this,
> too!
>
> I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts.
> Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!
> DanK
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>> Mills  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso=9s Foster Geisman video.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical
>>> turning mill. (*NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his
>>> machine.)*
>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning
>>> Elliptical turning.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical
>>> ...
>>> All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last
>>> two offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.
>>>
>>> Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it
>>> and make a better working version for yourselves. ;-)
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> HI Tim
>>>
>>> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
>>> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
>>> The Alum. plate $7.00
>>>
>>> That's it.
>>> the concept came form a long time of studying.
>>> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs.
>>> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
>>> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not
>>> well.) I just couldn't make this concept
>>> fit/work with the Legacy.
>>> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper
>>> on the Geometric chuck.
>>> (another Pet project of mine.)
>>> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
>>> short time to gather all the parts.
>>> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to
>>> re-work the gear linkage, to
>>> come up with what I showed in the video.
>>>
>>> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
>>> with out much problems.
>>> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
>>> Legacy.
>>>
>>> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing
>>> done. And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to
>>> talk them through the process.
>>> Here are a few more photo's.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 

Re: Split nut tap

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

BTW, I checked my tap against the lead screw and they 
nested perfectly full length.  So the ACME tap which I think
I got from McMaster Carr seems correct.  
DanK

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:31:12 PM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Hey Tim Porter, 
>
> Not sure if you saw my email but I may have a length to sell.  What length 
> are you looking for? 
> You can private email me and we can possibly discuss this. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:55 PM Tim Porter  wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill
>>
>> I spoke with Legacy this morning and they made their own lead screws and 
>> they were indeed square profile threads. This would make sense as the 
>> trapezoid profile would push the screw out of engagement with a load.  If I 
>> had access to a lathe I would make a thread chaser tool to rework the 
>> profile of my half nuts made with the standard acme tap
>>
>> Anybody got a piece of lead screw floating around?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>> 1902 Dandridge St  Apt 7
>> Sun City Center. FL 33573
>> 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Tim Porter  wrote:
>>
>> Got me.   Not sure where the machine came from, as it is far older than 
>> anyone here knows about but since we have the owners manual and stuff I am 
>> thinking it was purchased new.  I don’t believe anyone would have changed 
>> out the lead screws and I am pretty sure they have a square profile.  I 
>> will double check it when I go back in Wednesday.  I am going to reach out 
>> to Legacy to see if they can shed any light on it.   I am also going to put 
>> a notice on this board to see if someone had a piece of lead screw on hand.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>
>>
>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:05 PM, bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> As far as I know legacy never made a square thread leadscrew I didn’t 
>> notice that in your pics where did that leadscrew come from ?
>>
>> One of the members might have one they could sell to you to make it right 
>> or there are places that sell it I believe 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Porter
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 3:45 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Split nut tap
>>
>>  
>>
>> I took a closer look this morning while at the Woodshop and my half nuts 
>> were made with a tap that has trapezoid thread form, like a standard acme.  
>> The lead screw has square thread form, like a buttress thread.  I am going 
>> to consult my Machinery Handbook to find what is needed. But the difference 
>> between the two profiles is preventing the half nuts I had made from fully 
>> engaging. Diameters and lead are correct.  When I obtain the proper tap, I 
>> should be able to rethread my current blocks and be good to go.   BTW there 
>> is no reason these half nuts couldn’t be made from hard maple.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  
>>
>> Tim and Cathy Porter
>>
>> 1902 Dandridge St  D7
>>
>> Sun City Center FL 33573
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> H. 813-419-4169 <(813)%20419-4169>
>>
>> C. 815-861-1505 <(815)%20861-1505>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 7:04 AM, cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I bought a tap during the original discussion, but haven't used it yet.  
>> Now I'm hafta check.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 6:59:13 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Looks good Bill and does look like the same company I bought from. I will 
>> try to look it up in my history too. But they sure worked great.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 10:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175270225800?hash=item28ceeb6788:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a=enc%
>>
>>  
>>
>> this is the tap I would buy it looks like the one I bought but it is a 
>> trapezoidal tap so it will be 30 degrees and not 29 but because your tapping
>>
>> Delrin not metal there is a bit of leeway finding the exact correct one 
>> is almost impossible I looked for 10 years and of course you don’t know 
>> till you try it that it will work with a possible bad batch out there, I 
>> had to do that I took a chance and it worked, one last thing the 
>> recommended tapping drill
>>
>> Is a little small for Delrin and one degree out so 7/16 is what I used 
>> and it allows for the strange cutting properties of the Delrin. But all 
>> this is just 

Re: Oval jig video

[cdkr...@gmail.com]

I'm gonna stick my neck out here to repeat what I've said before 
at the risk of disturbing Curt.  Now don't get me wrong hereI love 
what Curt has done because without his realizing it yet, he has opened 
a door to a world of complex designs.  Think spirograph. And he has 
accomplished his goal of making elliptical picture frames.  And 
combinations thereof.  His effort is NOT in vain!  He has successfully
navigated through a complex field and reduced it to a workable simplicity.

If you are looking just to do something simple like make elliptical picture 
frames or turn elliptical bowls or platters on a low profile trammel this 
can be done using principles from Archimedes trammel that does not 
need gears. The hard part is to envision how to translate that motion 
to a rotary table under a router.  I recognize that this video 
 shows exactly 
that, and I have confirmed through animated drawings that this principle 
will work on the LOM rotary table. 

Furthermore, the profile can be greatly reduced using T slots or dovetails 
for accurate sliding for a total height  under 2" using 3/4" material above 
the metal rotary table.

The principle behind this is that there are two slots guiding captive 
sliders.
Usually the two slots are permanently at right angles and stationary while 
the arm moves.  On the rotary table, the "slots" or sliders are at right 
angles
and  rotate with the table around a stationary off center pin while the 
"arm" 
(router) is also stationary. Granted, it takes awhile to envision and some 
props help.  I'm in the middle of a project now but this is definitely on 
the 
table for the REVO.  And there is the ball turner project ahead of this, 
too!

I'm really anxious to see the possibilities evolve through Curts efforts. 
Go Curt!  I'm cheering for ya!
DanK
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 6:43:59 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso=9s Foster Geisman video.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical 
>> turning mill. (*NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his 
>> machine.)*
>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning 
>> Elliptical turning.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical 
>> ...
>> All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last 
>> two offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.
>>
>> Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it 
>> and make a better working version for yourselves. ;-) 
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>
>>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
>> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
>> The Alum. plate $7.00
>>
>> That's it.
>> the concept came form a long time of studying.  
>> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs. 
>> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
>> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not 
>> well.) I just couldn't make this concept 
>> fit/work with the Legacy. 
>> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper 
>> on the Geometric chuck.
>> (another Pet project of mine.) 
>> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a 
>> short time to gather all the parts.
>> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to re-work 
>> the gear linkage, to
>> come up with what I showed in the video.
>>
>> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing 
>> with out much problems.  
>> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the 
>> Legacy.
>>
>> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done. 
>> And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk 
>> them through the process.
>> Here are a few more photo's.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better 
>> handle on it for sure. 
>> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up 
>> spending on this project?
>> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our 
>> LOM's for sure. 
>>
>> Kind 

Re: Oval jig video

[Tim Ziegler]

Thanks Curt. not sure that would be me though lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:40 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4c_yFmaHso=9s Foster Geisman video.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX12OFJHQlg David Springett
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoM-CRZBNY Elliptical Chuck project.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4YseqnjWjs Tim2Dl...' Oval Elliptical
> turning mill. (*NOTE: he used a bike chain and a gear to turn his
> machine.)*
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjaBYsAlwGc  Device for turning
> Elliptical turning.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSiD7lL8P_k  Planetary gear- elliptical
> ...
> All of these video pointed in the right direction. But seeing the last two
> offered me a way to make it work on the Legacy.
>
> Now that the problem has been solved, It's up to your guys to tweak it and
> make a better working version for yourselves. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:17:26 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> HI Tim
>
> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
> The Alum. plate $7.00
>
> That's it.
> the concept came form a long time of studying.
> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs.
> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not
> well.) I just couldn't make this concept
> fit/work with the Legacy.
> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper
> on the Geometric chuck.
> (another Pet project of mine.)
> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
> short time to gather all the parts.
> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to re-work
> the gear linkage, to
> come up with what I showed in the video.
>
> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
> with out much problems.
> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
> Legacy.
>
> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done.
> And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk
> them through the process.
> Here are a few more photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better
> handle on it for sure.
> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
> spending on this project?
> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our
> LOM's for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
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>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
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Re: Lecture and Demo at Yale University!

[Tim Ziegler]

no most of us can't lol.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:21 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Wow that is Awesome.
> but I cant do it. ;-(
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:47:03 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Just sharing for those interested.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
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> Date: Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:17 PM
> Subject: Lecture and Demo at Yale University!
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> We are giving a lecture for the Yale University Art Gallery.
>
> From Kings to Craftsmen:
>
> Ornamental Turning and the Rose Engine Lathe
>
> Greetings!
>
> We are excited and proud to announce that we've been asked to give a
> lecture and demo at the Yale University furniture archive on the history of
> complex turning along with a demo of the rose engine lathe.
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>
> The Lecture is March 22, 2024, at 12:30-2:00pm.
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>
> We hope to see a number of you there.
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> If you come to the lecture, you may also want to visit the Yale Art Museum
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Re: Oval jig video

[Tim Ziegler]

Very good Curt and thanks for all the details and pix.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:17 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> HI Tim
>
> Spending on this project??? (most of it was re-work from the trash bin.)
> The Linear bearing (Amazon) were $38.00 .
> The Alum. plate $7.00
>
> That's it.
> the concept came form a long time of studying.
> I have been trying to make this type of jig for appx. 6 yrs.
> I saw a video of Foster Geisman's Ornamental oval works, on You tube.
> I have tried at least 5 times to make an oval jig. (all worked but not
> well.) I just couldn't make this concept
> fit/work with the Legacy.
> I just saw a different view to get this jig made , while reading a paper
> on the Geometric chuck.
> (another Pet project of mine.)
> The hole thing just fell together for me, in my head, then it was just a
> short time to gather all the parts.
> I made the wooden version a week ago, and then just a few days to re-work
> the gear linkage, to
> come up with what I showed in the video.
>
> I know that Bill or anyone in the group could make the very same thing
> with out much problems.
> The hard part was understand, and working with in my limits of using the
> Legacy.
>
> Today I feel that there, could be better ways to get the same thing done.
> And if someone from the group would like to try, I will do my best to talk
> them through the process.
> Here are a few more photo's.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:40:53 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Curt, very cool I will have to watch that a few times to get a better
> handle on it for sure.
> I am very impressed with the concept. About how much did you end up
> spending on this project?
> I can see this becoming like Bill said, one of the best additions  to our
> LOM's for sure.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>
> This is the best legacy mod since the wave attachment I love it, the
> possibilities are endless fantastic curt I’m going to build one
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:36 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Oval jig video
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Thanks Bill for posting this.
>
> I hope everyone enjoys the video?
>
> the oval jig is both complex and simple at the same time.
>
>
>
> The Planetary gear concept is what makes this jig work.
>
> The "Sun" gear is stationary (it dose NOT move when the table moves.) The
> planate gear moves around the Sun. This planate gear has a adjustable pivot
> point which makes the table move as the gears rotate.
>
>
>
> I Hope you all enjoy this video, Hopefully you all will try to make
> something like this for your self's.
>
> Please let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR8ZwCHfv6Q
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
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