Re: cheapskate Z-axis

2024-02-04 Thread Tim Ziegler
Pretty cool Curt

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:01 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just saw this short video on making an drill powered bike. his simple
> hydric
>  drive, Could perhaps be used for your process?
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wz0Bh9Tx3l8
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 11:11:36 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> yup now if I can find that Lee Valley jig that use to be available then I
>> would not have to re-invent the wheel.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:54 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> I like the foot idea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:33 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> what about using your foot?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:31 AM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The WoodRat is where the original idea came from.  I almost pulled the
>>> trigger on one
>>>
>>> of those, but I held out for the LOM. My application involves 3 pieces,
>>> a pivot pin on the
>>>
>>> router shell, a bent rod hooked into the hole for edge guide, and a
>>> handle bar bored with
>>>
>>> holes spaced to let the handle go full range of plunge.  I have to
>>> release the plunge lock
>>>
>>> with one hand while plunging with the other for now.  It works much
>>> better than plunging
>>>
>>> with the knobs for me.
>>>
>>> I can see potential for following a template with the plunge bar, but,
>>> you know, baby steps.
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>> yup and Lee Valley has or had a good idea too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 11:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like it.
>>>
>>> This idea has popped up a few times over the years.(If you want to
>>> check the archives?)
>>>
>>> The Wood-Rat system started off this idea yrs back, with there cam
>>> router plunge bar design.[image: Inline image]
>>>
>>> Your design looks nice. Cant wait to hear how well it works.
>>>
>>> Do you have some way to over-ride the router locking bar? or is that not
>>> needed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 10:06:02 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah I was going to incorporate a foot pedal for it. Lee Valley had one
>>> at one time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 8:54 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I too will be watching with great interest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2024 1:50 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, let me know how that progresses. I was going to do the same thing
>>> one time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:30 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Had an idea out of the blue motivated by difficulty with last project on
>>> REVO and inspired by next project.  I'm going to decorate a turned and
>>> carved vase and wanted a way to easily push the router down to stop because
>>> the plan will involve a lot of up and down.  We'll see how it develops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
I try to read all posts. I am guilty of not posting. Life has been very busy lately. I’ll try to do better this year.I do very much appreciate all the good advise, tips and tricks from all the friendly folks on this site.ThanksDensonSent from Denson's iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 12:03 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Hey there Rick, Ken & Diana.thank you for the kind notes.talk to you all more latter.C.A.G.





On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 12:46:39 PM EST, Rick Hutley  wrote:



A warm welcome to all of our new members. While I am guilty of only sporadic postings myself, I have found this group - and its members - both knowledgeable and very friendly. I look forward to keeping this group active .. and fun!RickSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:34, Jeff Richmond  wrote:Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Great advice Curt. 
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.



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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I do like this idea.If you could show more info. I for one would like to see 
it. ;-)
The Ornamental Mill. (both the Wood Chuck and latter Legacy's) are both a world 
ahead of the wood lathe.but sadly they are not the quality of those Old 
Ornamental lathes. who where built by old world craftsmen/machinist.  A steel 
lathe might be a better platform to start from, if I wanted to make my own 
Ornamental lathe.I have chosen the Legacy, It can and dose offer a lot to most 
wood workers that they could not get  in years past, not until the CNC's hit 
the market.For me, I am trying to force my skills to grow, pushing myself to 
attempt to do things that are most old world. that people just don't see today.
This quote comes to mind.  I have the liking of Escargot and Champlain, But a 
budget that can only afford  peanut butter and jelly sandwich's.   ;-p
I try to do the best that I can do, with what I have. 
Have a good day. ;-)
C.A.G.On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 01:54:38 PM EST, Gerald & Bert 
 wrote:  
 
  
Have been a lurker for many years. Have Woodchuck, never used. Was still in 
boxes when I got it. Now semi retired, carpenter for 50 years mostly interior 
trim and staircases. Wife has health issues for many years. Not enough time. 
Was thinking about your wanting to build a more ornamental lathe. What about 
using an old woodsmith with 4 step pulley and drill press downfeed with 
templates when used in lathe position. Needs more thought.
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 On 2/4/2024 10:16 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
  
 
 Hello Everyone. 
  Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group. Even though 
you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by 
Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.   Please post a note/message to 
the group as soon as you can.  As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to 
four posting before you can be granted full access to the group.  So I ask 
everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can 
get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group.  
  To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function 
as it was meant to be. Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are 
still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us. It has 
been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one 
day that Our group could be disbanded. So Please drop us a line or two, Even 
though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, 
and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us. So again, As 
a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb 
question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our 
group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the 
group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can 
not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the 
group can . 
  So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we 
can all learn from the experience.  
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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Gerald & Bert

should have said shopsmith instead of woodsmith

On 2/4/2024 12:54 PM, Gerald & Bert wrote:


Have been a lurker for many years. Have Woodchuck, never used. Was 
still in boxes when I got it. Now semi retired, carpenter for 50 years 
mostly interior trim and staircases. Wife has health issues for many 
years. Not enough time. Was thinking about your wanting to build a 
more ornamental lathe. What about using an old woodsmith with 4 step 
pulley and drill press downfeed with templates when used in lathe 
position. Needs more thought.





On 2/4/2024 10:16 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.
Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still 
need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.

Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can.
As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you 
can be granted full access to the group.
So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in 
this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming 
a full member to the group.


To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not 
function as it was meant to be.
Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. 
many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.
*/It has been a fear, for a while/.* If we don't keep our group 
active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.
So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the 
Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may 
have run into, are all still important to us.
So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a 
thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very 
good chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some 
reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to 
contact me (E-mail, curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I 
will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group 
can .


So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, 
so we can all learn from the experience.


C.A.G.
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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Gerald & Bert
Have been a lurker for many years. Have Woodchuck, never used. Was still 
in boxes when I got it. Now semi retired, carpenter for 50 years mostly 
interior trim and staircases. Wife has health issues for many years. Not 
enough time. Was thinking about your wanting to build a more ornamental 
lathe. What about using an old woodsmith with 4 step pulley and drill 
press downfeed with templates when used in lathe position. Needs more 
thought.





On 2/4/2024 10:16 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:

Hello Everyone.

Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.
Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still 
need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.

Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can.
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can be granted full access to the group.
So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in 
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full member to the group.


To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not 
function as it was meant to be.
Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. 
many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.
*/It has been a fear, for a while/.* If we don't keep our group 
active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.
So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the 
Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have 
run into, are all still important to us.
So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a 
thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good 
chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason 
you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me 
(E-mail, curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post 
your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .


So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, 
so we can all learn from the experience.


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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hey there Rick, Ken & Diana.
thank you for the kind notes.
talk to you all more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 12:46:39 PM EST, Rick Hutley 
 wrote:  
 
 A warm welcome to all of our new members. While I am guilty of only sporadic 
postings myself, I have found this group - and its members - both knowledgeable 
and very friendly. I look forward to keeping this group active .. and fun!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2024, at 11:34, Jeff Richmond  wrote:




Ditto on that.
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:




Great advice Curt. 

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello Everyone.
Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you 
are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me 
or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the 
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posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone 
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To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function 
as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are 
still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has 
been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one 
day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even 
though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, 
and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As 
a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb 
question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our 
group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the 
group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can 
not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the 
group can .
So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can 
all learn from the experience. 
C.A.G.

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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Rick Hutley
A warm welcome to all of our new members. While I am guilty of only sporadic postings myself, I have found this group - and its members - both knowledgeable and very friendly. I look forward to keeping this group active .. and fun!RickSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:34, Jeff Richmond  wrote:Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Great advice Curt. 
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.



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Re: cheapskate Z-axis

2024-02-04 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Holy cow, Curt!  I don't plan to RIDE the thing!  LOL.  
That's a pretty clever solution to his application, though.  And, yes, 
ideas do 
come from just about any source, the unexpected ones are serendipitous.
Thanks for posting.  It's in the think tank. Would save having to get my 
foot
up that high, wouldn't it?
DanK

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 12:01:34 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just saw this short video on making an drill powered bike. his simple 
> hydric
>  drive, Could perhaps be used for your process?  
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wz0Bh9Tx3l8 
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 11:11:36 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> yup now if I can find that Lee Valley jig that use to be available then I 
>> would not have to re-invent the wheel. 
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:54 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> I like the foot idea
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:33 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> what about using your foot?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:31 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The WoodRat is where the original idea came from.  I almost pulled the 
>>> trigger on one
>>>
>>> of those, but I held out for the LOM. My application involves 3 pieces, 
>>> a pivot pin on the
>>>
>>> router shell, a bent rod hooked into the hole for edge guide, and a 
>>> handle bar bored with
>>>
>>> holes spaced to let the handle go full range of plunge.  I have to 
>>> release the plunge lock
>>>
>>> with one hand while plunging with the other for now.  It works much 
>>> better than plunging
>>>
>>> with the knobs for me. 
>>>
>>> I can see potential for following a template with the plunge bar, but, 
>>> you know, baby steps.
>>>
>>> DanK
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>>
>>> yup and Lee Valley has or had a good idea too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 11:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dan.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I like it.  
>>>
>>> This idea has popped up a few times over the years.(If you want to 
>>> check the archives?)
>>>
>>> The Wood-Rat system started off this idea yrs back, with there cam 
>>> router plunge bar design.[image: Inline image]
>>>
>>> Your design looks nice. Cant wait to hear how well it works.
>>>
>>> Do you have some way to over-ride the router locking bar? or is that not 
>>> needed?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 10:06:02 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Yeah I was going to incorporate a foot pedal for it. Lee Valley had one 
>>> at one time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 8:54 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I too will be watching with great interest
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2024 1:50 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Yeah, let me know how that progresses. I was going to do the same thing 
>>> one time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:30 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Had an idea out of the blue motivated by difficulty with last project on 
>>> REVO and inspired by next project.  I'm going to decorate a turned and 
>>> carved vase and wanted a way to easily push the router down to stop 

Re: cheapskate Z-axis

2024-02-04 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hello Everyone.

Just saw this short video on making an drill powered bike. his simple hydric
 drive, Could perhaps be used for your process?  
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wz0Bh9Tx3l8 
 

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 3, 2024 at 11:11:36 PM UTC-5 timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> yup now if I can find that Lee Valley jig that use to be available then I 
> would not have to re-invent the wheel. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 4:54 PM  wrote:
>
>> I like the foot idea
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2024 2:33 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>
>>  
>>
>> what about using your foot?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:31 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> The WoodRat is where the original idea came from.  I almost pulled the 
>> trigger on one
>>
>> of those, but I held out for the LOM. My application involves 3 pieces, a 
>> pivot pin on the
>>
>> router shell, a bent rod hooked into the hole for edge guide, and a 
>> handle bar bored with
>>
>> holes spaced to let the handle go full range of plunge.  I have to 
>> release the plunge lock
>>
>> with one hand while plunging with the other for now.  It works much 
>> better than plunging
>>
>> with the knobs for me. 
>>
>> I can see potential for following a template with the plunge bar, but, 
>> you know, baby steps.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> yup and Lee Valley has or had a good idea too.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 11:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dan.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I like it.  
>>
>> This idea has popped up a few times over the years.(If you want to check 
>> the archives?)
>>
>> The Wood-Rat system started off this idea yrs back, with there cam router 
>> plunge bar design.[image: Inline image]
>>
>> Your design looks nice. Cant wait to hear how well it works.
>>
>> Do you have some way to over-ride the router locking bar? or is that not 
>> needed?
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 10:06:02 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yeah I was going to incorporate a foot pedal for it. Lee Valley had one 
>> at one time.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 8:54 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Yes I too will be watching with great interest
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 2, 2024 1:50 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: cheapskate Z-axis
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yeah, let me know how that progresses. I was going to do the same thing 
>> one time.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:30 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Had an idea out of the blue motivated by difficulty with last project on 
>> REVO and inspired by next project.  I'm going to decorate a turned and 
>> carved vase and wanted a way to easily push the router down to stop because 
>> the plan will involve a lot of up and down.  We'll see how it develops.
>>
>>  
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Ken and Diana
   I haven't been active on this site but I do comment once in a while.
I follow the projects and hope I will be able to use them.
Keep up the good work, lurking
Ken


On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.
> Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to
> be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.
> Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can.
> As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can
> be granted full access to the group.
> So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this
> way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full
> member to the group.
>
> To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not
> function as it was meant to be.
> Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many
> of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.
> *It has been a fear, for a while.* If we don't keep our group active, we
> may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.
> So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the
> Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run
> into, are all still important to us.
> So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing
> as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance
> others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't
> want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,
> curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question
> under my name, to see if others in the group can .
>
> So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we
> can all learn from the experience.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Jeff Richmond
Ditto on that.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:Great advice Curt. 
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:Hello Everyone.Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the group can .So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can all learn from the experience. C.A.G.



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Re: Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread Tim Ziegler
Great advice Curt.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, 10:17 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
>
> Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.
> Even though you are approved to become members, your posting still need to
> be approved (by Me or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.
> Please post a note/message to the group as soon as you can.
> As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four posting before you can
> be granted full access to the group.
> So I ask everyone to post an introductory message to the group, in this
> way everyone can get to know you. and start you way to becoming a full
> member to the group.
>
> To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not
> function as it was meant to be.
> Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are still here. many
> of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.
> *It has been a fear, for a while.* If we don't keep our group active, we
> may find one day that Our group could be disbanded.
> So Please drop us a line or two, Even though you may not be using the
> Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, and problems you may have run
> into, are all still important to us.
> So again, As a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing
> as a dumb question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance
> others in our group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't
> want to post to the group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,
> curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can not help you , I will post your question
> under my name, to see if others in the group can .
>
> So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we
> can all learn from the experience.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Note to all Members (New and old...)

2024-02-04 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hello Everyone.
Just a note to all, We have some NEW People here on the group.Even though you 
are approved to become members, your posting still need to be approved (by Me 
or Tim K.) to have full access to the group.  Please post a note/message to the 
group as soon as you can. As a General rule of thumb, it takes three to four 
posting before you can be granted full access to the group. So I ask everyone 
to post an introductory message to the group, in this way everyone can get to 
know you. and start you way to becoming a full member to the group. 
To those "Lurkers" out there.  With out commentary our group can not function 
as it was meant to be.Google no longer sponsors Groups. so even though we are 
still here. many of the resources we once had are no longer open to us.It has 
been a fear, for a while. If we don't keep our group active, we may find one 
day that Our group could be disbanded.So Please drop us a line or two, Even 
though you may not be using the Legacy as much as you like. Ideas, Projects, 
and problems you may have run into, are all still important to us.So again, As 
a General rule of thumb, I feel that there is no such a thing as a dumb 
question. If you don't know, then there is a very good chance others in our 
group will not know, either.  If for some reason you don't want to post to the 
group. Please feel free to contact me (E-mail,   curt.geo...@yhoo.com) If I can 
not help you , I will post your question under my name, to see if others in the 
group can .
So in short. POST when you can, and keep an open line of commentary, so we can 
all learn from the experience. 
C.A.G.

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