Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Had the same problem today and yesterday. Tax time and boy its hectic.
uffda.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:16 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you Bill
>
> I got some time in the shop this afternoon. (between grocery shopping and
> laundry. I hate when LIFE get in the way of my wants. ) ;-)
>
> More life stuff now.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> here are the pix.
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 05:10:38 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy
> quite often overlooked
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
>
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
>
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
>
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c&t=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
>
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this
> posting I can find the reply.
>
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
>
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
>
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
>
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
>
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
>
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
>
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
>
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
>
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
>
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
>
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
>
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
>
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
>
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
>
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
>
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
>
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
>
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
>
>
> I had

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread bulkeley 
Yes another good templet video such a shame legacy took them all down from 
their sight years ago

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 4:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Sorry guys, Hit the send button by mistake.  Here are the photos.

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:44:26 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks Tim.

 

I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen 
making.

I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)

 

more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Very good illustrations Curt and Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c 
 &t=2s  Bill made this video 
a few years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  

Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.

Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.

 

At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller

turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not 
only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 

1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the 
shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 

(I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally 
do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 

the best quality of workmanship as I can.

I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. 

 

I made another 4 templates over the last two days.

If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with 
some of these new templates.

Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.

 

NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.

 

What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>

RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread bulkeley 
Yes very nice video on template following that one an option of the legacy 
quite often overlooked

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

 

Hello Everyone.

I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile 
following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 spindles, 
 The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden template to make 
all 5 spindles.

The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the 
original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the 
last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic shape. 
By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or fluting) the 
look can and will change.

The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most 

dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large 
straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c 
 &t=2s  Bill made this video 
a few years back, showing the concept. 

 

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George 
mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff,

using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have to get 
use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.

Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  

Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball bearing 
set ,1/2" as the follower.

My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am 
using. 

As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for 
just basic shapes. details can be

added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits profile. 
so as long as my templates are true

to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.

Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.

 

At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller

turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not 
only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 

1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of the 
shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master. 

(I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I normally 
do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 

the best quality of workmanship as I can.

I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions. 

 

I made another 4 templates over the last two days.

If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with 
some of these new templates.

Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.

 

NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200

 

Have a good day.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.

 

What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:



Hello  Everyone.

 

I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.

 

I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.

 

Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.

 

Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)

Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.

Have a good night everyone.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread Ccm Ccm 
Very nice

On Sunday, February 18, 2024, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sorry guys, Hit the send button by mistake.  Here are the photos.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:44:26 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Tim.
>
> I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen
> making.
> I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)
>
> more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Very good illustrations Curt and Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c&t=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting
> I can find the reply.
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for m

Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 Thanks Tim.
I just made a few more pix. for another Legacy video. On template and pen 
making.I think I will let the photo's talk for them-selfs. ;-)
more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 12:29:41 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Very good illustrations Curt and Bill. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone.I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named 
Profile following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5 
spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden 
template to make all 5 spindles.The template is just a general guide you can 
use it to make a copy of the original or use for the general profile to make 
something different. in the last photo you can see that all, are different but  
share the same basic shape. By using different router bits, and cutting 
concepts (roping or fluting) the look can and will change.The ribbon twist 
(second for the right in the last photo.) is the most dramatic, this cut was 
made from cutting form the side, using both a large straight fluted cutter, and 
using a LONG Pitch .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c&t=2s  Bill made 
this video a few years back, showing the concept. 

Have a good day.C.A.G.On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, 
Curt George  wrote:  
 
  Hey Jeff,using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will 
have to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.Here 
are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for taking 
the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for template 
work but I hope to. 
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:



Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting I 
can find the reply.  Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my 
Legacy's use a ball bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.My lathe uses different 
shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am using. As I see it the Lathe 
is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy is for just basic shapes. 
details can beadded with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router 
bits profile. so as long as my templates are trueto the spindle, they do not 
need to be beyond just basic shapes.Note: having said that, I use both machine 
together on most of my projects.
At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two 
reasons. First the 200 is made for smallerturnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 
200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note: not only size, but the 200 has a finer 
acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger 
turnings 1000 is the king of the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is 
the master. (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I 
normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to get 
the best quality of workmanship as I can.I hope this helps explain what I am 
doing, and answers your questions. 
I made another 4 templates over the last two days.If I can get my shop wormed 
up today, I hope to be able to be able to play with some of these new 
templates.Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I made 
for my 200
Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
Jeff from Connecticut 
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:





Hello  Everyone.
I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one 
has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my 
uses.
I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my 
Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a 
general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive 
cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs...  the 
process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.)Tomorrow I 
hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning.Have a good 
night everyone.
C.A.G.



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Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates

2024-02-18 Thread Tim Ziegler 
Very good illustrations Curt and Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 10:45 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> I took these photo's out of a Wood Chuck training video, named Profile
> following. They show the template follower being used to make these 5
> spindles,  The neat thing here is they only used one very simple wooden
> template to make all 5 spindles.
> The template is just a general guide you can use it to make a copy of the
> original or use for the general profile to make something different. in the
> last photo you can see that all, are different but  share the same basic
> shape. By using different router bits, and cutting concepts (roping or
> fluting) the look can and will change.
> The ribbon twist (second for the right in the last photo.) is the most
> dramatic, this cut was made from cutting form the side, using both a large
> straight fluted cutter, and using a LONG Pitch .
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGSMtixW1c&t=2s  Bill made this video a
> few years back, showing the concept.
>
> Have a good day.
> C.A.G.
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 06:16:50 PM EST, Curt George <
> curt.geo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
> using the template follower on the Legacy is not hard, but you will have
> to get use to cutting from the side of the work, to make the profiles.
> Here are a few Legacy Photo's on this concept.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 03:03:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you gave a quick reply within another message but thanks Curt for
> taking the time to provide additional detail. I have not used my Legacy for
> template work but I hope to.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, I thought I replied to you, but after looking an this posting
> I can find the reply.
> Depending on which machine I am using.  both of my Legacy's use a ball
> bearing set ,1/2" as the follower.
> My lathe uses different shaped followers depending on the cutter that I am
> using.
> As I see it the Lathe is for exact coping/fine details, where the Legacy
> is for just basic shapes. details can be
> added with the Legacy, but those details are done with the router bits
> profile. so as long as my templates are true
> to the spindle, they do not need to be beyond just basic shapes.
> Note: having said that, I use both machine together on most of my projects.
>
> At this time, I am using my 200 more then my 1000,  This is because of two
> reasons. First the 200 is made for smaller
> turnings, I can cut/rope finer on my 200 then I can do on my 1000 ( note:
> not only size, but the 200 has a finer acme screw drive. 5/8-8 and the
> 1000 has a 5/8-4 acmes screw.) But for larger turnings 1000 is the king of
> the shop. and for very large turnings the lathe is the master.
> (I can turn up to 8' on my lathe)  BUT having said that, for what I
> normally do/make in the shop I can use and do use all my tool together to
> get
> the best quality of workmanship as I can.
> I hope this helps explain what I am doing, and answers your questions.
>
> I made another 4 templates over the last two days.
> If I can get my shop wormed up today, I hope to be able to be able to play
> with some of these new templates.
> Wish me luck. ;-)   and talk to you more later.
>
> NOTE: I am adding two pix. of my fine adjustment/template follower that I
> made for my 200
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 8:10:35 AM UTC-5 jtric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Nice, thanks for sharing Curt.
>
> What do you use for a stylus to contact the template?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello  Everyone.
>
> I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only
> one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well
> for my uses.
>
> I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my
> Legacy's as well the lathes I own.
>
> Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a
> general guide for basic shaping of my spindles.
>
> Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an
> abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any
> burs...  the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please
> ask.)
> Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone
> turning.
> Have a good night everyone.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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