RE: Ornamental Mills Around the World
Mapped my place Thanks Greg From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:07 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ornamental Mills Around the World There's still two current members that I know in Europe that have not placed a marker. After that, they will be news to me. I also know a couple in Texas that are being shy. -Tim - Original Message - From: Craig Turner mailto:craig1...@fsmail.net To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Cc: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:49 AM Subject: Re: Ornamental Mills Around the World Nice touch to see where we all live. More from UK/Ireland than I thought - nice. Craig On Friday, June 1, 2012 3:41:21 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote: Hello All, I value the privacy of the members in this group more than most people appreciate. On the other hand, I like to know where other owners are located. There's nothing in Google Groups that can be used to show our individual locations so I found a free service that will make it possible. For now, it's a hidden feature on ornamentalmills.com. It's a world map that allows you to place a marker. One of the goals in offering this feature is to help bring members closer together. It just might be a conversation starter. Any information that you enter is voluntary. The map is currently available to the public so please be careful about any private information that you are posting. The Link to the Map: http://ornamentalmills.com/map/usermap.html Direction for placing your marker: http://ornamentalmills.com/map/map_directions.html If I start getting spammed with this feature I'll either take steps to moderate the input or depending on the level of activity I might discontinue it at any time. My hopes is we can get more than 40 members to place a marker on the map. Come on Lurkers, prove to me that people are reading this group still! Let me know what you think of this new feature. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/legacy-ornamental-mills/-/Qs393Q3FrWcJ. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5040 - Release Date: 06/02/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: sample sketchup drawings
I do things with precision in sketchup, especially flat work. Thanks Greg From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Rhine Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:43 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings Just responded to the Tuesday thing. Give Sketchup a chance. i hated it for a while...still have my frustrations. But it's worth learning. You can be precise with it. rr Tim Krause wrote: It's a real pain in the ass to draw anything with precision in sketchup. I spent a bunch of time yesterday playing around with it and looking at tutorials. I would think if the customer really needs a 3d mock up to sell the job, it's a very questionable customer in the first place. What did you think about meeting up tuesday? -Tim - Original Message - From: Randy Rhine mailto:rrrh...@comcast.net To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings The free version of Sketchup cannot import/export DXF/DWG files. The Pro version ($$$) can. There may be third party plug-ins that do it as well. rr Tim Krause wrote: I like the design of the 12 start spiral column. I could see a small potpourri box or candle holder made with that design and some serious trickery. I just downloaded SU and will have to play with it. Can it import dxf or dwg drawings? -Tim - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC mailto:groovyw...@gmail.com groovyw...@gmail.com To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings The first one is done the same as how I described earlier The second drawing used the follow me tool, some issues Cannot determine the pitch or the bit shape exactly so duplicating it on the legacy is not possible. It is a circle done on a spiral path. Looks cool but without exact math for the line hard for me to make but I am sure someone else has thought of a way. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com 302.894.3616 -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Moshofsky Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:16 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings As I understand it Sketchup has a method where you can follow a line with a shape. I believe it is called the FOLLOW ME tool. The problem then would be to create the curved path the cutter would take around the pineapple, follow it with the cutter shape, then rotate the result around the center of rotation of the pineapple to create the whole thing. -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Groovy Wood LLC Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:36 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings So you're talking a left and right twist on the some project, I have not done that. I have only done straight cylinders with right or left twist. My process was draw a profile of the bit you are going to use. Draw a circle the diameter you want your project, move bit profile on edge and locate where you want it, hit the move in circle, click on center, hit ctrl key, move degrees you want ( should be multiple that goes into 360 even) like 30 then hit 12x enter, Extend object up .25 click on top surface only, again use circle move and rotate 15 degrees and that should give you the twist, save as component and step and repeat to length. Hope makes sense, pretty involved. Reads should be done same way except use the use push/pull for straight if you have on circle you have drawn, Note try to do 2d plane and push pull before going into 3d. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:20 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings Ok how did you do it? Im pretty sure i could do it for objects of consistent geometry such as cylinders. I was trying to model a pineapple twist on a sphere. The other one I was trying was a country style table leg with reeds (which you would cut from the side using the mill. I was trying to model the leg then sketch the profile of the Reed on one end. Then with the wireframe on, I tried to draw a line following the contour of the leg. Then use the follow me tool. I think I'm doing something wrong because I can't get it to subtract the Reed. As far as drawing the pineapple twist on a sphereI have
RE: sample sketchup drawings
Import yes, but I have not done it so I do not know how good it is, export can only be done with the pro version, not the free one. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 3:27 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings I like the design of the 12 start spiral column. I could see a small potpourri box or candle holder made with that design and some serious trickery. I just downloaded SU and will have to play with it. Can it import dxf or dwg drawings? -Tim - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:18 PM Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings The first one is done the same as how I described earlier The second drawing used the follow me tool, some issues Cannot determine the pitch or the bit shape exactly so duplicating it on the legacy is not possible. It is a circle done on a spiral path. Looks cool but without exact math for the line hard for me to make but I am sure someone else has thought of a way. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com 302.894.3616 -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Moshofsky Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:16 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings As I understand it Sketchup has a method where you can follow a line with a shape. I believe it is called the FOLLOW ME tool. The problem then would be to create the curved path the cutter would take around the pineapple, follow it with the cutter shape, then rotate the result around the center of rotation of the pineapple to create the whole thing. -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Groovy Wood LLC Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:36 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: sample sketchup drawings So you're talking a left and right twist on the some project, I have not done that. I have only done straight cylinders with right or left twist. My process was draw a profile of the bit you are going to use. Draw a circle the diameter you want your project, move bit profile on edge and locate where you want it, hit the move in circle, click on center, hit ctrl key, move degrees you want ( should be multiple that goes into 360 even) like 30 then hit 12x enter, Extend object up .25 click on top surface only, again use circle move and rotate 15 degrees and that should give you the twist, save as component and step and repeat to length. Hope makes sense, pretty involved. Reads should be done same way except use the use push/pull for straight if you have on circle you have drawn, Note try to do 2d plane and push pull before going into 3d. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:20 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings Ok how did you do it? Im pretty sure i could do it for objects of consistent geometry such as cylinders. I was trying to model a pineapple twist on a sphere. The other one I was trying was a country style table leg with reeds (which you would cut from the side using the mill. I was trying to model the leg then sketch the profile of the Reed on one end. Then with the wireframe on, I tried to draw a line following the contour of the leg. Then use the follow me tool. I think I'm doing something wrong because I can't get it to subtract the Reed. As far as drawing the pineapple twist on a sphereI have no idea where to start there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills
RE: spirals in sketchup
Yes I have done several in sketchup. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:42 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: spirals in sketchup This is somewhat legacy related; I'm mostly a hobbyist but on occasions, I find some people who are willing to pay me for something (its always gratifying to know people are still willingto pay for craftsmanship). However, its hard to get a visual representation of of the project to show the client before hand which makes it hard to sell anything if your client can't visualize what he/she is going to pay for. Sorry for the rambling, I'll get to the point. I downloaded Google sketchup (its free) to make 3D representations of the projects prior to cutting anything. Does anyone use sketchup and know how to model spirals, flutes, reeds, etc? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: sample sketchup drawings
So you're talking a left and right twist on the some project, I have not done that. I have only done straight cylinders with right or left twist. My process was draw a profile of the bit you are going to use. Draw a circle the diameter you want your project, move bit profile on edge and locate where you want it, hit the move in circle, click on center, hit ctrl key, move degrees you want ( should be multiple that goes into 360 even) like 30 then hit 12x enter, Extend object up .25 click on top surface only, again use circle move and rotate 15 degrees and that should give you the twist, save as component and step and repeat to length. Hope makes sense, pretty involved. Reads should be done same way except use the use push/pull for straight if you have on circle you have drawn, Note try to do 2d plane and push pull before going into 3d. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:20 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: sample sketchup drawings Ok how did you do it? Im pretty sure i could do it for objects of consistent geometry such as cylinders. I was trying to model a pineapple twist on a sphere. The other one I was trying was a country style table leg with reeds (which you would cut from the side using the mill. I was trying to model the leg then sketch the profile of the Reed on one end. Then with the wireframe on, I tried to draw a line following the contour of the leg. Then use the follow me tool. I think I'm doing something wrong because I can't get it to subtract the Reed. As far as drawing the pineapple twist on a sphereI have no idea where to start there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Monthly Challenge
Maybe quarterly would be better unless they are smaller projects/ Thanks Greg From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:30 PM To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Monthly Challenge Hello All, I'm really curious if we created a monthly challenge if anyone would participate. I could see a challenge where you are asked to create a project like a clock and post pictures by the end of each month. There's really no winner or loser, but more of a chance to get more than one person working on the same thing. That way sharing the frustrations or tricks needed to make the project could help others learn and inspire other to dust off the idle machines and try something new. Maybe it could go as far as making plans and demonstrating a project and then the members can show us their own versions of the project. Are we as a group too clever to get involved in games like this? I know he have a lot of beginners lurking and this might be a way to get them out in the open. -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: All New Members
The first one gave me your photos as an attachment in my email. I get each individual email sent to my box, I have not checked the actual site. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http:// http://groovywood.intuitwebsites.com/ Groovy Wood LLC.com From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Yoder Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:39 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: All New Members 4th try at placing photos. Sorry for cluttering the group if it doesn't work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: thin stock support
Did you buy them or did they come with you machine? I don't have any that look like that and defiantly no extras that look like it. Thanks Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Look Ye Here!
I believe you have a 1000EX or 1500 which is the same as the 1000 just longer (80) Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Moshofsky Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:19 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Look Ye Here! My older machine is clearly marked Legacy 1000 but the side rail extrusions are 80 long. Was the length of the machine custom by order? I bought mine used without much history to it. -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of begatbrown Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:34 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Look Ye Here! Hello All, As one who owns both a 900 and an Arty 58, this development is something worth watching. I'm relatively new to both, and I would not trade my 900 for an Arty alone, and would not own a cnc unless I wanted to make some money. Unless the middle rails are realigned and the brackets lowered, the max. turn size on the Shadow would be six inches. The way it's made, it is easier to fix a tailstock on the wall and maker a longer column on the Arty than the manual machines. (For you alter-the-machine fellas!) If they move the rails, the column diameter could improve dramatically. But then again, that would make it harder to upgrade to the cnc. So the decision that they make will be interesting. Presumably, the Shadow would come with rack-and-pinion, especially if it's going to be an easy upgrade. This would mean that the leadscrew is history as well as the router table as we know it. I like the 900, including the rotary table that I originally thought I'd sell. As for the cost of the CNC. Folks, the 179 tax break Legacy talks about is real. And the use of your shop for business purposes creates another write off for the home. And shops do not have to be finished to get the tax write off. (Of course, this is USA tax stuff thanks to current tax laws.) Sell a few posts, and a number of people here do seem to sell parts and finished stuff, and you will have a cnc for less than the price of the old 1800. Do fairly well, and the machine will pay for itself quickly enough. By the way, I use my 900 to make almost all my blanks round. It moves faster than the cnc, which has the edge for accuracy in turning. (Of course, you seasoned woodworkers--the John Henry's of sawdust--can probably out do the cnc in terms of quality and speed!) For me, the combo is working out well. I don't mean to quit my day job, but it's nice to make side money in an economy in which pay raises don't exist and to keep more of what I make on my day job through tax write offs. If I had to have one machine, it would be the 1200 with a motor and it's tailstock on the garage wall It would be more limited in designing than a CNC, but it could turn 11 inch columns something that you'd have to buy an Artisan to do. By the way, where did you guys see the ad for the Shadow? Begat On May 5, 3:31 am, curt george curtgeo...@wowway.com wrote: I dough it Jeff. Since you own a 1200 what length is it? 56 sounds a little short to me? My 1000 ex was 48 and I extended it to 56 but? isn't the 1200, 72 long? I still cant wait to see how that they handles the gearing. And they said the frame was wider. I wonder what dia. this unit will turn? As I said earlier, this is a Neat concept. there are a lot of bonus's here, but so far... This is to new, and I would like to see more about it before I completely jump on this band wagon. Neat but un-proven. :-) (Sorta sounds like Trust but Verify the former Gov. policy that the US used when dealing with other countries, when I was still in the military. ) Have a great day. Jeff call Legacy and find out for sure if they are willing to trade. :-) Trust but Verify! C.A.G. . - Original Message - From: Love to turn in Oregon jwim...@comcast.net To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 11:50 PM Subject: Re: Look Ye Here! I wonder of legacy would consider a trade straight across. My 1200 is in great shape. Jeff On May 4, 4:59 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: yes it will be very interesting to see possibly a way of poorer people to get cnc first the manual machine then maybe later upgrade to the computer part still beyond me im afraid the shipping would be staggering for overseas on a pre assembled machine but for all you guys in the states who knows like I said I will be very interested to see it Bill - Original Message - From: curt george To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Look Ye Here! Hello Bill! we must have seen the same thing at pretty much the same time. I didnt see you new mill until after I
RE: pen marking jig
I tried that initially and that means I need to understand the positioning better. If I do that I cannot get picture c to work it spreads it out more. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:27 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pen marking jig Umm, isn't this just driving the rotary table with the x axis lead screw connected? There was a discussion back in June and July on the resulting curves and I thought I posted some patterns and explained how the offset changes things. There's a ;ot of unexplored potential if someone has the time to play with this idea. My advice is take a lot of notes so you can repeat the patterns in the future. If your cranking back and forth you can save time by using a split collar to mark your starting point on the leadscrew and marking the top of the leadscrew so you can engage the nut and get the same results. Then you can open the split nut and index the table to next starting point, lock the split nut and go again. If you understand this your doing good. -Tim - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: RE: pen marking jig That's the plan your following exactly what I am trying do. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:44 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pen marking jig very interesting now try the same with the standard gears and the 2X gears Bill - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:59 AM Subject: RE: pen marking jig Diagrams promised using the pen jig to draw on rotary table. All are draw from 18.5 to 27 on X axis with y set at close to 0 1) Gear C with .25 gear reduction 2) Gear A with .25 gear reduction 3) Gear A with .25 gear reduction, starting at the headstock gear 0 deg, 120 degree and 240 degree each time router was moved with crank to back to start before disengaging gear and moving to new degree rotation. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of curt george Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:19 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pen marking jig OK, I know that Im a day late and a dollar short on this topic. What is this Pen marking jig for??? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:10 PM Subject: pen marking jig Not the best pictures or design but it worked, Have a better idea to try now. (a duh moment) The small clamp was to add pressure for writing or I can push on the pen to make it write better. I put a F o-ring on the Bic pen to keep it from scooting up. Cost was $0 used scrap and stuff. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
RE: pen marking jig
It use with the rotary table I guess you could use it on turning stock also but it allows me draw the path of the router bit before I cut so I can see if my set up is what I want. I will post a few scans next week to show. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of curt george Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:19 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: pen marking jig OK, I know that Im a day late and a dollar short on this topic. What is this Pen marking jig for??? C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:10 PM Subject: pen marking jig Not the best pictures or design but it worked, Have a better idea to try now. (a duh moment) The small clamp was to add pressure for writing or I can push on the pen to make it write better. I put a F o-ring on the Bic pen to keep it from scooting up. Cost was $0 used scrap and stuff. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: storage for parts on legacy
Thanks for the information I have not had to do 14 or larger project on it since I installed but at least now I know I will need to remove one or both if I need to do one that large. (which I will) Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of begatbrown Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:39 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: storage for parts on legacy Good idea, but it wouldn't work for me because I use the circle cutting center. I have been considering putting drawers or baskets beneath the stand I built. Begat On Apr 28, 8:17 am, Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com wrote: I was having trouble with where to put all the legacy things, I use peg board for other projects and had some left over so I put some Styrofoam caulk gap fill in the bottom groove of the rail and then placed the peg board in and it working so far, it also give me an added security if something flies off while cutting it will hopefully hit the peg board. Legacy 008.jpg 160KViewDownload Legacy 009.jpg 200KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Tim's quick change reverse gearing
Good point, I will make myself more aware of that issue but I do not have a motor and I have not seen it as an issue but it is something I should be aware of. I just had a lot of stuff piling up to post so I am trying to get it done. Still have one more to post of my pen marking jig for the rotary table. Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of curt george Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:05 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Tim's quick change reverse gearing Hello Guys! Wow there is a lot of message traffic today, Doesn't anyone out there work? :-) I feel like Im a late comer here. Lots of nice pictures, Thanks too both of you (groovywood Bill Bulkeley) for all the great topics today. I would like to key in on the driving the gears in the up ward position. I've tried it, and quite honestly, I find the gears get in my way. I like to work from the end of my machine, and the gears up, block not only my view but Its also pretty scary being eye to eye with a set of teeth that could bite you if you are not paying attention to what is going on at the moment. Now having said that, the up-ward position dose seem to help set the teeth of the gears while in motion. Perhaps I should make a guard for the gears and try using then that way for a while? but with out a guard on them, its something that Im just not willing to chance. That's just my two cents. O by the way I too own one of the QC gear changers made by Tim. (If I have to admit it, his unit looks 100% better than the one I made,having the steel laser cut realy makes the difference! And I wouldn't trade this one for the world,Its one of my best toys that I use often on the Legacy.) talk to you all latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: gk777 groovyw...@gmail.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Tim's quick change reverse gearing Yes i like them in the up position in case something is not tight i might be able to get through a cut before it slips and not ruin my piece. It also seems to help me make sure all is engaged before i start by feeling the gears and trying to move them. Key word is might if something not tight it will usually skip a tooth or 2 then it becomes a variable spiral spaced item which i have done a few of. On Apr 28, 12:11 pm, Bill Bulkeley bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: looks good I have one of those too much easier for direction change.I see you run your gears in the up position too like me. would you take a pic of your pitch gear storage you have near the end of the leadscrew that looks interesting too Bill - Original Message - From: Groovy Wood LLC groovyw...@gmail.com To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:08 PM Subject: Tim's quick change reverse gearing A couple of pictures of Tim's part attached to my machine. Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Legacy 002 Legacy 003 Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: New Spur Drive
Can you remind me with pictures of Tim's items? Thanks |Greg ://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: advice wanted
A couple of pieces of information needed Thickness of wood, if wood is thinner you will not be able to use any larger bits for rope molding, for large columns usually the large rope bit is better (this is the one legacy sells 2 bits to make one start) and with the largest pitch you can since they are 10' tall. (opinion expressed to me anyhow) If you have those 2 then a 3 start column may look good, look like big ship ropes going up. What rope bits do you have? Again for larger items larger bits usually look better. Greg From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Art Ransom Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:33 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: advice wanted I have an order for 3 12 by 10' rope columns. They will be from 12 by 12 western red cedar and used in an exterior gazebo and customer said rustic. looking for advice on number of starts, width and pitch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Ahmed's new creations
Been away for a few days looks like the blog is not working today. Thanks Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Rope column
Someone will need to verify my math but I think the equation is: (Number of starts * Bit Diameter)/ 3.14159 = diameter of column 8 starts you need a column 7.6394 in diameter for them to be real darn close. Again someone needs to verify. Hope I am not leading you wrong. You will get a number with lots of decimals and you have to determine if the overlap or under lap is acceptable for your look Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 11:36 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Rope column Does anybody know how to figure out the diamiater of a column and number of starts to make a 8-10inch column with a 3in rope bit it will have a 7 1/2 pitch. I need to make this 8ft column and they want a 3 rope .I can't figure out the dia. to make the column. Is there a formula to figure this? Thanks Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Legacy
FYI, Sent him email he said it was sold. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http:// http://groovywood.intuitwebsites.com/ Groovy Wood LLC.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Legacy 1200 for Sale in Mass.
Oops guess I should hit reply instead of send FYI, He said this was sold, sent him email yesterday to ask questions. Thanks Greg Knudtson Http://Groovy Wood LLC.com -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of begatbrown Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:24 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Legacy 1200 for Sale in Mass. For anyone who might be interested, earlier this month there was a listing on the American Woodworkers Association forum for a 1200 that has a motor, among other things. http://www.aawforum.org/vbforum/showthread.php?t=8291 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
RE: Y-Axis Digital Scale
I hope I don't have one of the earliest made, I bought it in nova of 2009 with my 1200, they forgot to ship it originally and my z axis was damaged in shipment and I had to send it back. Took about 2 months to straighten out. Does your DRO (the new one not my picture) have the ability to switch form mm to In and what is the readout .01 or .001 or more? Thanks Greg -Original Message- From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Lasson Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:39 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Y-Axis Digital Scale Greg, That's exactly the digital readout (DRO) I have for my Woodrat. It works but can't remember where it was when you turn it off. It also doesn't have an incremental mode. Do yourself a favor and go buy this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/0-6-Y-AXIS-VERTICAL-DIGITAL-SCALE-Digital-Readouts-DRO-/ 140490645449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item20b5e51fc9 You must have one of the very earliest z-axes made. Legacy shipped mine without a DRO (they were unhappy with the returns they were getting from the original DRO--the one you have). When I finally called and said it was taking too long (after a couple of months) they shipped me one exactly like the eBay auction I listed above. I've been happy with it. Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.