subject:"Re\: Wave attachment."

RE: Wave attachment.

2024-03-03 Thread bulkeley

3 years man has it been that long wow

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 4:31 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Hey Bill

I love that video. I cant believe it's been 3yrs now since you made it.

 

Here is a box top that I made just after the last time you posted you mod. 

Mine was not as pretty as yours, but it did work nicely for what I was making.

Thanks for the inspiration! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:27:48 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Wow that sounds pretty cool . Would that stay consistent?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 2:50 PM cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.

 

I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that 

connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack 

at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A 

started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction 

clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm 

when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The 

wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the + 

wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another 

variation.

DanK   

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like these 
I did lol, from canes to pens 

Even a wave rosette https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Here is part II

These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and His 
version working.

(They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000 times 
better.) ;-)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181> 
=43s_channel=aussiman77181  Bill's version.

  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
Tim's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.

 

and here are some photo's of mine.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello and Good morning everyone.

 

I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.

First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
Atkinson Reciprocator"   
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image001.png?part=0.0.1>
 

 

Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
  

(the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the link to 
see the photo of this article.)

 


The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment


  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image002.png?part=0.0.2>
 

A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned pieces
using the Legacy Ornamental Mill

by Tim Krause


History of the Invention:


I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used in 
ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different wave 
patterns can be created.

I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for the 
Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The Atkinson 
Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the spirit of amateur 
inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for the Legacy Ornamental 
mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, "The Wave Attachment", is now 
what it's being called on Google's Legacy Ornamental Mill group.

During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. You 
can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my version.

The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle

RE: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread bulkeley

Look out folks dan is on a roll lol 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 8:04 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Now, for the basket weave.

 

Building on the wave notion but using a Y axis template instead and 

cutting with a pointy side cut bit, following the wavy template would 

result in an interrupted cut (periodic) on the side of a cylinder.  If 12 

starts were done at one template position, then with the template 

moved 1/2 the wave pitch for the next 12 starts on the alternate holes 

of the 24 hole index, the result would be a sort of basket weave. 

 

Holtzapffel, here we come.

 

DanK

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:50:54 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.

 

I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that 

connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack 

at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A 

started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction 

clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm 

when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The 

wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the + 

wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another 

variation.

DanK   

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like these 
I did lol, from canes to pens 

Even a wave rosette https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Here is part II

These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and His 
version working.

(They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000 times 
better.) ;-)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181> 
=43s_channel=aussiman77181  Bill's version.

  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
Tim's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.

 

and here are some photo's of mine.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello and Good morning everyone.

 

I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.

First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
Atkinson Reciprocator"   
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image001.png?part=0.0.1>
 

 

Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
  

(the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the link to 
see the photo of this article.)

 


The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment


  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image002.png?part=0.0.2>
 

A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned pieces
using the Legacy Ornamental Mill

by Tim Krause


History of the Invention:


I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used in 
ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different wave 
patterns can be created.

I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for the 
Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The Atkinson 
Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the spirit of amateur 
inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for the Legacy Ornamental 
mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, "The Wave Attachment", is now 
what it's being called on Google's Legacy Ornamental Mill group.

During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. You 
can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my version.

The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion to a 
back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of the Legacy 
Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave pat

RE: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread bulkeley

I didn’t notice enough slack to be a problem but have at it if you want I’m 
happy the way it works for me 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 7:51 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.

 

I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that 

connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack 

at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A 

started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction 

clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm 

when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The 

wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the + 

wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another 

variation.

DanK   

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like these 
I did lol, from canes to pens 

Even a wave rosette https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181> 
_channel=aussiman77181

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Wave attachment.

 

Here is part II

These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and His 
version working.

(They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000 times 
better.) ;-)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181> 
=43s_channel=aussiman77181  Bill's version.

  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181> 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
Tim's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.

 

and here are some photo's of mine.

 

Have a good day everyone.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello and Good morning everyone.

 

I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.

First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
Atkinson Reciprocator"   
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image001.png?part=0.0.1>
 

 

Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
  

(the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the link to 
see the photo of this article.)

 


The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment


  
<https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/attach/26eb843a07656/image002.png?part=0.0.2>
 

A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned pieces
using the Legacy Ornamental Mill

by Tim Krause


History of the Invention:


I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used in 
ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different wave 
patterns can be created.

I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for the 
Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The Atkinson 
Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the spirit of amateur 
inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for the Legacy Ornamental 
mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, "The Wave Attachment", is now 
what it's being called on Google's Legacy Ornamental Mill group.

During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. You 
can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my version.

The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion to a 
back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of the Legacy 
Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns using modern 
tools.

My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment developed 
by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust the amplitude of 
the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an infinite variety of heights 
available in the wave.


Installation of the TK Reciprocator:


Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time if 
desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex gear 
provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are includ

Re: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread Tim Ziegler

This is all sounding great, but I need to see this idea in action and
motion.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 3:04 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Now, for the basket weave.
>
> Building on the wave notion but using a Y axis template instead and
> cutting with a pointy side cut bit, following the wavy template would
> result in an interrupted cut (periodic) on the side of a cylinder.  If 12
> starts were done at one template position, then with the template
> moved 1/2 the wave pitch for the next 12 starts on the alternate holes
> of the 24 hole index, the result would be a sort of basket weave.
>
> Holtzapffel, here we come.
>
> DanK
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:50:54 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.
>>
>> I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that
>> connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack
>> at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A
>> started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction
>> clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm
>> when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The
>> wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the +
>> wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another
>> variation.
>> DanK
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like
>>> these I did lol, from canes to pens
>>>
>>> Even a wave rosette
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
>>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is part II
>>>
>>> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and
>>> His version working.
>>>
>>> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000
>>> times better.) ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181
>>> Bill's version.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
>>> Tim's
>>> version.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and here are some photo's of mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a good day everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>>>
>>> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The
>>> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>>
>>>
>>> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the
>>> link to see the photo of this article.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image]
>>>
>>>
>>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
>>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>>
>>> *by Tim Krause*
>>> History of the Invention:
>>>
>>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
>>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
>>&

Re: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread Tim Ziegler

Wow that sounds pretty cool . Would that stay consistent?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 2:50 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.
>
> I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that
> connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack
> at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A
> started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction
> clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm
> when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The
> wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the +
> wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another
> variation.
> DanK
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
>> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like
>> these I did lol, from canes to pens
>>
>> Even a wave rosette
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is part II
>>
>> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and
>> His version working.
>>
>> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000
>> times better.) ;-)
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181
>> Bill's version.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
>> Tim's
>> version.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>>
>>
>>
>> and here are some photo's of mine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a good day everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>>
>> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The
>> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>>
>>
>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>
>>
>> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the
>> link to see the photo of this article.)
>>
>>
>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>
>> *by Tim Krause*
>> History of the Invention:
>>
>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
>> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different
>> wave patterns can be created.
>>
>> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for
>> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The
>> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the
>> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for
>> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of,
>> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy
>> Ornamental Mill group.
>>
>> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own.
>> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my
>> version.
>>
>> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion
>> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of
>> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns
&

Re: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

Now, for the basket weave.

Building on the wave notion but using a Y axis template instead and 
cutting with a pointy side cut bit, following the wavy template would 
result in an interrupted cut (periodic) on the side of a cylinder.  If 12 
starts were done at one template position, then with the template 
moved 1/2 the wave pitch for the next 12 starts on the alternate holes 
of the 24 hole index, the result would be a sort of basket weave. 

Holtzapffel, here we come.

DanK
On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:50:54 PM UTC-5 cdkr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.
>
> I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that 
> connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack 
> at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A 
> started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction 
> clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm 
> when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The 
> wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the + 
> wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another 
> variation.
> DanK   
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
>> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like 
>> these I did lol, from canes to pens 
>>
>> Even a wave rosette 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
>> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is part II
>>
>> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and 
>> His version working.
>>
>> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000 
>> times better.) ;-)
>>
>>  
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181  
>> Bill's version.
>>
>>  
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
>> Tim's 
>> version.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>>
>>  
>>
>> and here are some photo's of mine.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Have a good day everyone.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>>
>> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
>> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>>
>>
>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>   
>>
>> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the 
>> link to see the photo of this article.)
>>
>>  
>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned 
>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>
>> *by Tim Krause*
>> History of the Invention:
>>
>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used 
>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
>> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different 
>> wave patterns can be created.
>>
>> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for 
>> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The 
>> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the 
>> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for 
>> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, 
>> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill group.
>>
>> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. 
>>

Re: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

Bill, that is gorgeous!  And clever.

I've just awakened from a nap and ivandea.  What if the arm that 
connects the driver (A) to the driven index plate (B) has some slack 
at B, say maybe 1/4". B would be pushed to move the work until A 
started to recede.  The work would remain stationary (friction 
clutch?) until B reached the far end of the slack (slot) in the arm 
when it would start to move the work again, now pulling it.  The 
wave would be interrupted by a straight segment between the + 
wave and the - wave.  A simple mod to implement for yet another 
variation.
DanK   

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:59:00 PM UTC-5 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> Love the wave attachment so many options it can do even weird waves like 
> these I did lol, from canes to pens 
>
> Even a wave rosette 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n6RmUS5dkY_channel=aussiman77181
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 3, 2024 1:43 AM
> *To:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Wave attachment.
>
>  
>
> Here is part II
>
> These links are form Bill's web site. they show videos of both Tim's and 
> His version working.
>
> (They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. these video's are 1,000,000 
> times better.) ;-)
>
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181  
> Bill's version.
>
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 
> Tim's 
> version.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs My/Curt's version.
>
>  
>
> and here are some photo's of mine.
>
>  
>
> Have a good day everyone.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 09:01:10 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>
>  
>
> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
>
> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>
>  
>
> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>   
>
> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the link 
> to see the photo of this article.)
>
>  
> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned 
> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>
> *by Tim Krause*
> History of the Invention:
>
> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used 
> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different 
> wave patterns can be created.
>
> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for 
> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The 
> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the 
> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for 
> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, 
> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill group.
>
> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. 
> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my 
> version.
>
> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion 
> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of 
> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns 
> using modern tools.
>
> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment 
> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust 
> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an 
> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>
> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time 
> if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex 
> gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are 
> intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex 
> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file 
> them flush or

Re: Wave attachment.

2024-03-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com

This arrangement fascinates me and looks workable on the REVO.  It looks
like a solid design.  Have parts drawings ever been developed?   
DanK

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 9:01:08 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:

> Hello and Good morning everyone.
>
> I was asked to explain the wave attachment IN more detail.
> First off Tim Krause took a design/concept from the OT world called the "The 
> Atkinson Reciprocator" [image: Inline image]
>
> Here is the original posting of Tim's concept.
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>   
> (the photo's did not copy in my posting, you will need to open up the link 
> to see the photo of this article.)
>
> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
> [image: Inline image]
>
>
> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned 
> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>
> *by Tim Krause*
> History of the Invention:
>
> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used 
> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different 
> wave patterns can be created.
>
> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for 
> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The 
> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the 
> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for 
> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, 
> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill group.
>
> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. 
> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my 
> version.
>
> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion 
> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of 
> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns 
> using modern tools.
>
> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment 
> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust 
> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an 
> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>
> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time 
> if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex 
> gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are 
> intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex 
> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file 
> them flush or slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent 
> interference with the sliding arm.
>
> The spacer and slider look like this:
>
> [image: Spacer and Slide Plate]
>
> Next, using the following components, install the connecting rod and 
> bushing to the slider. The allen screw and small washer are not shown.
>
> [image: Connecting Rod Hardware]
>
> The connecting rod is attached to the slider with the threaded locking tab 
> inside the groove of the slider, and the connecting rod bushing on the 
> outside of the slider. The connecting rod should move freely on the 
> bushing. The opposite end of the connecting rod has a pvc block with a 
> split pin and a magnet installed in the face. The pin fits inside a hole in 
> the index plate, and the magnet holds the connecting rod in place.
>
> The slider assembly should look like this when completed. The duplex gear 
> is not shown:
>
> [image: Connecting Rod Details]
>
> The connecting rod should now be hanging down from the slider assembly.
>
> Installation is now complete.
> Basic Setting:In this section I will cover basic settings for using the 
> Wave Attachment.Setting the Pitch of the wave:
>
> Start by setting the pitch of the X-axis screw by choosing the appropriate 
> Legacy spiral gear. 4"-6" of pitch is a good starting point.
>
> See the notes at the end of the page for more information.
> Setting the offset:
>
> Loosen the allen screw and slide the bushing and connecting rod to the 
> desired offset. You can choose either side of the center of the duplex 
> gear. Lock down the allen screw. Do not over tighten the screw. A little 
> offset adjustment goes a long ways. Start with 1/8" to 1/4" to see what 
> happens. The 2" offset is really radical.
>
> *** Note, See the notes at the end of the page for more information on the 
> different effects of locating the bushing to the left or right of center 
> later.***
> Connecting the connecting rod:
>
> Next, place the split pin on the connecting rod in a hole on the index 
> plate. This will be used to lock the spindle to the duplex gear, and create 
> the back and forth rocking motion. It does not matter which hole you start 
>

Re: Wave attachment

2023-08-27 Thread Tim Ziegler

Yes very intriguing

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 12:34 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> These are more up to our speed.
> THE First photo is there Wave Attachment/Reciprocator.
> The second is a Wave used on a box.
>
> There is no reason why anyone in our group couldn't make these (or
> something like them.) on the LOM.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> Show original message
> Download all attachments as a zip file
> 
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>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:59:36 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> And here is an OT wave... Its the same concept, but different machine,
>> and different indexing controls. I've played with this concept. but sadly I
>> just do not have the fine control that is needed to make this type of wave
>> over and over  again to make the final design.  It CAN BE DONE, But not by
>> me. ;-(
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> [image: Inline image]
>> [image: No photo description available.]
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:45:55 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Tim
>>
>> Here are a few pix. of my wave attachment. Depending on how you want to
>> set it up. you can make small or very large waves.
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:32:34 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll
>> side to side to read it.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the
>> concept started back in the 1700's for the OT world.)  This is Tim's first
>> link onto this topic.  (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link
>> to see the entire posting.)
>>
>> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>>
>> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>>
>> [image: 24 Start Wave Pattern] [image: 6 Start Wave Pattern] [image:
>> Sine Wave example in Wood] [image: Sine Waves in Wood]
>>
>>
>> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
>> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>>
>> *by Tim Krause*
>> History of the Invention:
>>
>> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
>> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
>> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different
>> wave patterns can be created.
>>
>> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for
>> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The
>> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the
>> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for
>> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of,
>> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy
>> Ornamental Mill group.
>>
>> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own.
>> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my
>> version.
>>
>> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion
>> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of
>> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns
>> using modern tools.
>>
>> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment
>> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust
>> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an
>> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
>> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>>
>> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full
>> time if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard
>> duplex gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws
>> are intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex
>> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file
>> them flush or slightly under the surface of the

That is super cool! Eric G. Sent from my iPadOn Aug 27, 2023, at 3:36 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:This is my wave attachment I made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181 And this is tim Ks one and how to fit it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181 Each has it use Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 3:34 PMTo: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Wave attachment These are more up to our speed. THE First photo is there Wave Attachment/Reciprocator. The second is a Wave used on a box. There is no reason why anyone in our group couldn't make these (or something like them.) on the LOM. C.A.G. Show original messageDownload all attachments as a zip fileOT rec. box2.jpg246.5kB On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:59:36 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:And here is an OT wave... Its the same concept, but different machine, and different indexing controls. I've played with this concept. but sadly I just do not have the fine control that is needed to make this type of wave over and over again to make the final design. It CAN BE DONE, But not by me. ;-( C.A.G. On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:45:55 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hello Tim Here are a few pix. of my wave attachment. Depending on how you want to set it up. you can make small or very large waves.C.A.G. On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:32:34 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll side to side to read it. Kind Regards, Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the concept started back in the 1700's for the OT world.) This is Tim's first link onto this topic. (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link to see the entire posting.) http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Millby Tim KrauseHistory of the Invention:I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different wave patterns can be created.I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy Ornamental Mill group.During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my version.The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns using modern tools.My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an infinite variety of heights available in the wave.Installation of the TK Reciprocator:Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file them flush or slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent interference with the sliding arm.The spacer and slider look like this:Next, using the following components, install the connecting rod and bushing to the slider. The allen screw and small washer are not shown.The connecting rod is attached to the slider with the threaded locking tab inside the groove of the slider, and the connecting rod bushing on the outside of the slider. The connecting rod should move freely on the bushing. The opposite end of the connecting rod has a pvc block with a split pin and a magnet installed in the face. The pin fits inside a hole in the index plate, and the magnet holds the connecting rod in place.The slider assembly should look like t

RE: Wave attachment

2023-08-27 Thread bulkeley

This is my wave attachment I made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUtQKJQroo=43s_channel=aussiman77181> 
=43s_channel=aussiman77181

 

And this is tim Ks one and how to fit it 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDwnY4VfgQ=501s_channel=aussiman77181> 
=501s_channel=aussiman77181

 

Each has it use

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 3:34 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Wave attachment

 

These are more up to our speed. 

THE First photo is there Wave Attachment/Reciprocator. 

The second is a Wave used on a box.

 

There is no reason why anyone in our group couldn't make these (or something 
like them.) on the LOM.

 

C.A.G.

 

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On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:59:36 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

And here is an OT wave... Its the same concept, but different machine, and 
different indexing controls. I've played with this concept. but sadly I just do 
not have the fine control that is needed to make this type of wave over and 
over  again to make the final design.  It CAN BE DONE, But not by me. ;-(

 

C.A.G.

  
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On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:45:55 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
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Hello Tim

 

Here are a few pix. of my wave attachment. Depending on how you want to set it 
up. you can make small or very large waves.

C.A.G.

 

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:32:34 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll side to 
side to read it. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

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On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > 
wrote:

Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the concept 
started back in the 1700's for the OT world.)  This is Tim's first link onto 
this topic.  (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link to see the 
entire posting.) 

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
 


The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment


  
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RE: Wave attachment

2023-08-27 Thread bulkeley

Click on it and open it to full screen and it works ok

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:32 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wave attachment

 

Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll side to 
side to read it. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the concept 
started back in the 1700's for the OT world.)  This is Tim's first link onto 
this topic.  (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link to see the 
entire posting.) 

http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
 


The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment


  
<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/wave_example1.jpg>

<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/wave_example2.jpg>

<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/wave_example3.jpg>

<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/wave_example4.jpg>
 

A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned pieces
using the Legacy Ornamental Mill

by Tim Krause


History of the Invention:


I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used in 
ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different wave 
patterns can be created.

I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for the 
Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The Atkinson 
Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the spirit of amateur 
inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for the Legacy Ornamental 
mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, "The Wave Attachment", is now 
what it's being called on Google's Legacy Ornamental Mill group.

During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. You 
can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my version.

The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion to a 
back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of the Legacy 
Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns using modern 
tools.

My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment developed 
by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust the amplitude of 
the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an infinite variety of heights 
available in the wave.


Installation of the TK Reciprocator:


Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time if 
desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex gear 
provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are 
intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex gear. Do 
not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file them flush or 
slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent interference with 
the sliding arm.

The spacer and slider look like this:

  
<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/spacer_and_slide%20plate.jpg>
 

Next, using the following components, install the connecting rod and bushing to 
the slider. The allen screw and small washer are not shown.

  
<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/connecting%20rod%20hardware.jpg>
 

The connecting rod is attached to the slider with the threaded locking tab 
inside the groove of the slider, and the connecting rod bushing on the outside 
of the slider. The connecting rod should move freely on the bushing. The 
opposite end of the connecting rod has a pvc block with a split pin and a 
magnet installed in the face. The pin fits inside a hole in the index plate, 
and the magnet holds the connecting rod in place.

The slider assembly should look like this when completed. The duplex gear is 
not shown:

  
<http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/connecting_rod_assemby.jpg>
 

The connecting rod should now be hanging down from the slider assembly.

Installation is now complete.


Basic Setting:


In this section I will cover basic settings for using the Wave Attachment.


Setting the Pitch of the wave:


Start by setting the pitch of the X-axis screw by choosing the appropriate 
Legacy spiral gear. 4"-6" of pitch is a good starting point.

See the notes at the en

Re: Wave attachment

2023-08-26 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

These are more up to our speed. 
THE First photo is there Wave Attachment/Reciprocator. 
The second is a Wave used on a box.

There is no reason why anyone in our group couldn't make these (or 
something like them.) on the LOM.

C.A.G.

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On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:59:36 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> And here is an OT wave... Its the same concept, but different machine, and 
> different indexing controls. I've played with this concept. but sadly I 
> just do not have the fine control that is needed to make this type of wave 
> over and over  again to make the final design.  It CAN BE DONE, But not by 
> me. ;-(
>
> C.A.G.
> [image: Inline image]
> [image: No photo description available.]
>
>
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:45:55 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote: 
>
>
> Hello Tim
>
> Here are a few pix. of my wave attachment. Depending on how you want to 
> set it up. you can make small or very large waves.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:32:34 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll 
> side to side to read it. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the concept 
> started back in the 1700's for the OT world.)  This is Tim's first link 
> onto this topic.  (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link to 
> see the entire posting.) 
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>  
> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>
> [image: 24 Start Wave Pattern] [image: 6 Start Wave Pattern] [image: Sine 
> Wave example in Wood] [image: Sine Waves in Wood]
>
>
> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned 
> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>
> *by Tim Krause*
> History of the Invention:
>
> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used 
> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into 
> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different 
> wave patterns can be created.
>
> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for 
> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The 
> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the 
> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for 
> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of, 
> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill group.
>
> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own. 
> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my 
> version.
>
> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion 
> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of 
> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns 
> using modern tools.
>
> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment 
> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust 
> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an 
> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>
> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time 
> if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex 
> gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are 
> intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex 
> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file 
> them flush or slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent 
> interference with the sliding arm.
>
> The spacer and slider look like this:
>
> [image: Spacer and Slide Plate]
>
> Next, using the following components, install

Re: Wave attachment

2023-08-26 Thread Tim Ziegler

Curt can you try attaching that article differently, we have to scroll side
to side to read it.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone. This is where it started.(for us/LOM group but the concept
> started back in the 1700's for the OT world.)  This is Tim's first link
> onto this topic.  (NOTE: the photo's did not copy so click on the link to
> see the entire posting.)
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveattachment.html
>
> The TK Reciprocator - The Wave Attachment
>
> [image: 24 Start Wave Pattern] [image: 6 Start Wave Pattern] [image: Sine
> Wave example in Wood] [image: Sine Waves in Wood]
>
>
> *A modern day solution for creating reciprocated ornamental turned
> piecesusing the Legacy Ornamental Mill*
>
> *by Tim Krause*
> History of the Invention:
>
> I developed the TK Reciprocator for duplicating a technique that is used
> in ornamental turning. The final effect is sine wave patterns carved into
> cylinders. By making three different adjustments, thousands of different
> wave patterns can be created.
>
> I was inspired by the original device invention created by an amateur for
> the Holtzapffel Ornamental Lathe. Mr. G.C. Atkinson named his version "The
> Atkinson Reciprocator". The name fully describes its function. In the
> spirit of amateur inventors such as myself, I named my creation built for
> the Legacy Ornamental mill the, "TK Reciprocator". The simpler name of,
> "The Wave Attachment", is now what it's being called on Google's Legacy
> Ornamental Mill group.
>
> During the same time, Curt George also made a wave attachment of his own.
> You can search the archives for his design. It is much more robust than my
> version.
>
> The goal of the reciprocator is simple. Convert a rotating spindle motion
> to a back and forth motion. When combined with the spiral capabilities of
> the Legacy Ornamental Mill, we achieve the same antique sine wave patterns
> using modern tools.
>
> My invention is different from the original reciprocator attachment
> developed by Atkinson. His design had multiple holes on an arm to adjust
> the amplitude of the wave. In my version, I use a slide to create an
> infinite variety of heights available in the wave.
> Installation of the TK Reciprocator:
>
> Installation is simple, and the parts can be left on the machine full time
> if desired. First the slider and spacer are attached to the standard duplex
> gear provided by Legacy. Four longer screws are included. The screws are
> intentionally left long to account for varying thickness of the duplex
> gear. Do not over tighten the screws. Once the screws are installed, file
> them flush or slightly under the surface of the bronze bushing to prevent
> interference with the sliding arm.
>
> The spacer and slider look like this:
>
> [image: Spacer and Slide Plate]
>
> Next, using the following components, install the connecting rod and
> bushing to the slider. The allen screw and small washer are not shown.
>
> [image: Connecting Rod Hardware]
>
> The connecting rod is attached to the slider with the threaded locking tab
> inside the groove of the slider, and the connecting rod bushing on the
> outside of the slider. The connecting rod should move freely on the
> bushing. The opposite end of the connecting rod has a pvc block with a
> split pin and a magnet installed in the face. The pin fits inside a hole in
> the index plate, and the magnet holds the connecting rod in place.
>
> The slider assembly should look like this when completed. The duplex gear
> is not shown:
>
> [image: Connecting Rod Details]
>
> The connecting rod should now be hanging down from the slider assembly.
>
> Installation is now complete.
> Basic Setting:In this section I will cover basic settings for using the
> Wave Attachment.Setting the Pitch of the wave:
>
> Start by setting the pitch of the X-axis screw by choosing the appropriate
> Legacy spiral gear. 4"-6" of pitch is a good starting point.
>
> See the notes at the end of the page for more information.
> Setting the offset:
>
> Loosen the allen screw and slide the bushing and connecting rod to the
> desired offset. You can choose either side of the center of the duplex
> gear. Lock down the allen screw. Do not over tighten the screw. A little
> offset adjustment goes a long ways. Start with 1/8" to 1/4" to see what
> happens. The 2" offset is really radical.
>
> *** Note, See the notes at the end of the page for more information on the
> different effects of locating the bushing to the left or right of center
> later.***
> Connecting the connecting rod:
>
> Next, place the split pin on the connecting rod in a hole on the index
> plate. This will be used to lock the spindle to the duplex

RE: wave attachment

2021-01-28 Thread bulkeley

I remember that video if you think it shows your wave attachment enough then no 
problem

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2021 1:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wave attachment

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWq7eCpLMuc 

 

Bill I think this video dose pretty good. 

 

C.A.G.

 

On Thursday, January 28, 2021, 02:00:52 AM EST, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I think your version curt would be the easiest to make perhaps you could do 
another video of it up close this time curt and show how yours works and the 
different wave sizes.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 4:45 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

 

Hi Guys!

 

Thanks for all the work you've done Bill.

 

I agree the wave attachment is an Awesome tool. I think your video should help 
anyone who wants to make one understand how it works.

Tim If you want some close up's of my works, I will be all to glad to show you. 
 The premise is the same, but I used different tools/part to make it work.

Here is a photo so you can understand what I did.

Different Duplex gear hub, and I used an arm to attach the rod to the indexing 
plate. My arm centers through the center screw of the indexing plate, and I 
used a thumb screw to lock the indexing plate and arm together.

All three of our attachments work the same way, Bill's has more indexing 
movement then Tim's or mine, so he can get more off-set/bigger waves. (I'm not 
sure how much bigger, But I know it is...)

 

By the way, Bill I just thought of a way to get a larger wave, Attach a second 
wheel to the arm, and have that wheel drive another arm that hooks up to the 
indexing plate/headstock. I you make the off-set on the second wheel you should 
be able to make a larger wave?...  Its just an idea, that may or may not work.

 

On my arm I have two different pivot points/ holes (in my drive arm,) and two 
different lengths of drive arm's,  the farther the arm is form the center the 
bigger the movement will be.

 

I will be using the Wave attachment very soon on a new project.

 

More then.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 11:58:05 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

You bet watch away that’s what they are there for and remember the pause button

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:59 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

 

Sounds good Bill thanks. I'm sure we could use some measurements. I should 
rewatch your video on it again too. 

Nothing like a little refresher right. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 9:37 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If you need any dimensions off mine give me a hoy and I will give them to you 
if it helps

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

 

Yes Sir my brother and I will have to do some innovative thinking. I will do a 
mock up

and have him cut the parts. 

Thanks again Bill


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 6:20 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

yes

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

 

Thanks Bill,

 

I'd assume health is keeping him from making more currently?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I received an email back from Tim K he does not al

RE: wave attachment

2021-01-28 Thread bulkeley

Sure

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 10:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wave attachment

Thanks I printed the picture too and if Bill you want to add a still shot of 
yours I think we have a good start.

Awesome. 

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi Guys!

Thanks for all the work you've done Bill.

I agree the wave attachment is an Awesome tool. I think your video should help 
anyone who wants to make one understand how it works.

Tim If you want some close up's of my works, I will be all to glad to show you. 
 The premise is the same, but I used different tools/part to make it work.

Here is a photo so you can understand what I did.

Different Duplex gear hub, and I used an arm to attach the rod to the indexing 
plate. My arm centers through the center screw of the indexing plate, and I 
used a thumb screw to lock the indexing plate and arm together.

All three of our attachments work the same way, Bill's has more indexing 
movement then Tim's or mine, so he can get more off-set/bigger waves. (I'm not 
sure how much bigger, But I know it is...)

By the way, Bill I just thought of a way to get a larger wave, Attach a second 
wheel to the arm, and have that wheel drive another arm that hooks up to the 
indexing plate/headstock. I you make the off-set on the second wheel you should 
be able to make a larger wave?...  Its just an idea, that may or may not work.

On my arm I have two different pivot points/ holes (in my drive arm,) and two 
different lengths of drive arm's,  the farther the arm is form the center the 
bigger the movement will be.

I will be using the Wave attachment very soon on a new project.

More then.

Have a good night.

C.A.G.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 11:58:05 PM EST, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

You bet watch away that’s what they are there for and remember the pause button

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:59 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

Sounds good Bill thanks. I'm sure we could use some measurements. I should 
rewatch your video on it again too. 

Nothing like a little refresher right. 

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 9:37 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

If you need any dimensions off mine give me a hoy and I will give them to you 
if it helps

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

Yes Sir my brother and I will have to do some innovative thinking. I will do a 
mock up

and have him cut the parts. 

Thanks again Bill

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 6:20 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

yes

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 10:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: wave attachment

Thanks Bill,

I'd assume health is keeping him from making more currently?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:22 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

I received an email back from Tim K he does not allow copies or plans of his 
mods he is very protective of his inventions I respect that. Sometime in the 
future I believe he might be reselling a similar model wave attachment again 
but I don’t know when. But the concept is there nothing stopping you make your 
own like curt and I did, all 3 of us took different paths

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