Re: Slab Flattening discussions one of the makers facility tour

[Tim Ziegler]

Yes I must say WoodPecker rocks. I have no need for a slab flattening mill,
but I have lots of their
other tools.
Thanks for the link to the tour too.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 7:20 AM Owner  wrote:

> [image: maxresdefault.jpeg]
>
> Fine Tool Factory Tour - A visit at Woodpeckers
> <https://youtu.be/i1OPlxwK9Xs>
> youtu.be <https://youtu.be/i1OPlxwK9Xs>
> <https://youtu.be/i1OPlxwK9Xs>
>
> Their high end slab flattening mill  is not in this tour but everyone
> should find  this tour of  Woodpeckers narrated by the one and only Tom
> McLaughlin very enlightening.
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> Very Nice
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:57 PM Tim Woodard  wrote:
>
>> We made one withe scraps for a ash ring coffeetable
>> https://youtu.be/72fr4bkYtvw you can use LOM for flatning jig.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot
>>> on.
>>> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points
>>> you mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to
>>> do.  Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on
>>> one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab
>>> Flattening Mill?
>>>
>>>
>>> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to
>>> you.
>>> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac,
>>> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
>>> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft.
>>> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total
>>> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust
>>> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>>>
>>> Michael Kratky
>>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>>
>>> 518 863-2821
>>> text 518 207-7247
>>>
>>> Email;
>>> krat...@roadrunner.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can
>>> be found via search.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you both for the informative input.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from
>>> Craft Elements?
>>> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand
>>> that correctly?
>>> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one
>>> made by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat
>>> of a hybrid.
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft
>>> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the
>>> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input
>>> are what keep us going.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the
>>> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, t

Slab Flattening discussions one of the makers facility tour

[Owner]

https://youtu.be/i1OPlxwK9Xs
Fine Tool Factory Tour - A visit at Woodpeckers
youtu.be

Their high end slab flattening mill  is not in this tour but everyone should 
find  this tour of  Woodpeckers narrated by the one and only Tom McLaughlin 
very enlightening. 

Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134

518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247

Email;
krat...@roadrunner.com



> On Apr 20, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Very Nice
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:57 PM Tim Woodard  <mailto:twoodard...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> We made one withe scraps for a ash ring coffeetable 
>> https://youtu.be/72fr4bkYtvw you can use LOM for flatning jig.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue > <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>>  
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on. 
>>> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you 
>>> mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.  
>>> Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.
>>>  
>>> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening 
>>> Mill?
>>>  
>>> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
>>> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
>>> To: >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Mac,
>>> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
>>> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft. 
>>> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total 
>>> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust 
>>> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>>> 
>>> Michael Kratky
>>> 119 Riverview Rd., 
>>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>>  
>>> 518 863-2821
>>> text 518 207-7247
>>>  
>>> Email;
>>> krat...@roadrunner.com <mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com>
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue >> <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>>>  
>>> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be 
>>> found via search.
>>>  
>>> Thank you both for the informative input.
>>>  
>>> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from 
>>> Craft Elements? 
>>> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand 
>>> that correctly?
>>> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made 
>>> by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a 
>>> hybrid.
>>>  
>>> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft 
>>> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the 
>>> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>>>  
>>> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are 
>>> what keep us going.
>>>  
>>> Mac
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
>>> To: >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the 
>>> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  
>>> and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to 
>>> accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s 
>>> always out of them.  
>>>  
>>> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used a 
>>> flattening sled to take out the twists. 
>>>  
>>> Also

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Tim Ziegler]

thanks Mac,

I will have to check they have it all set up for anyone to use.
I tried to get them to buy woodpeckers but was about the funds.
Wood Haven makes one too that could be used for slabs would have to add to
it maybe.

https://woodhaven.com/collections/planing-sled/products/woodhaven-3000-27-planing-sled
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 12:06 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I don't know.
>
>
>
> I do remember that when we last had a BIG "Woodworking Show" here -
> Woodpeckers was demoing theirs and there was one being demonstrated by
> another company.  I don't now who that was.
>
>
>
> Have a Fabulous Friday.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> .  No idea who is sw-Original Message-----
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:51 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>
>
> Our wood working group Central Minnesota WoodWorkers have one. I'd have to
> look to see which brand but its big.
> Does Tru Track make one?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on.
>>
>> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you
>> mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.
>> Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening
>> Mill?
>>
>>
>>
>> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
>>
>> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>>
>>
>> Mac,
>> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
>> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft.
>> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total
>> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust
>> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>> 518 863-2821
>> text 518 207-7247
>>
>> Email;
>> krat...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>>
>>
>> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can
>> be found via search.
>>
>>
>> Thank you both for the informative input.
>>
>>
>> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from
>> Craft Elements?
>> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand
>> that correctly?
>> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made
>> by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a
>> hybrid.
>>
>>
>> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft
>> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the
>> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>>
>>
>> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input
>> are what keep us going.
>>
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>>
>>
>> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the
>> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex
>>  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to
>> accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s
>> always out of them.
>>
>> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used
>> a flattening sled to take out the twists.
>>
>> Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flatte

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[M.W.Foscue]

I don't know.

I do remember that when we last had a BIG "Woodworking Show" here - Woodpeckers 
was demoing theirs and there was one being demonstrated by another company.  I 
don't now who that was.

Have a Fabulous Friday.
Mac
.  No idea who is sw-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:51 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions

Our wood working group Central Minnesota WoodWorkers have one. I'd have to look 
to see which brand but its big. Does Tru Track make one?
Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler
 
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell






On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:18 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote:
Michael,

Thanks. 
Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on. 
When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you 
mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.  
Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.

Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening Mill?

You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
Mac

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions

Mac,The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft. 
The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total cost 
its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust 
collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.

Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134
 
518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247
 
Email;
krat...@roadrunner.com (mailto:krat...@roadrunner.com)
 


On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net)> wrote:

Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),

I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be 
found via search.

Thank you both for the informative input.

Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft 
Elements? 
Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that 
correctly?
The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by 
Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.

Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements or 
did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - like 
Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)

Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are 
what keep us going.

Mac
-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>
Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?


Have been following this  slab mill for some time.  Most all the 
components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and 
the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32 x 102, 
to accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and hes 
always out of them.   
For anything up to 24 wide I have helical head  planer for that and used 
a flattening sled to take out the twists. 
 
Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill 
and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that includes 
both sides.

Michael Kratky

On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> wrote:
Just saw this...Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
 
C.A.G.
 
https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
 
Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening MillSKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1$499 USD

48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00  
  48x40" / Festool - $499.0048x40" 
/ Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.0048x48" 
/ Universal 1 - $507.0048x48" / Festool - 
$507.0048x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
$507.0048x60" [Restock Late April] / 
Universal 1 - Sold out48x60" [Restock Late 
April] / Festool - Sold out48x60" [Restock 
Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold o

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Tim Ziegler]

Very Nice

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:57 PM Tim Woodard  wrote:

> We made one withe scraps for a ash ring coffeetable
> https://youtu.be/72fr4bkYtvw you can use LOM for flatning jig.
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on.
>>
>> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you
>> mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.
>> Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening
>> Mill?
>>
>>
>>
>> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
>>
>> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>>
>> Mac
>> ------
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>>
>>
>> Mac,
>> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
>> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft.
>> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total
>> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust
>> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>> 119 Riverview Rd.,
>> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>>
>> 518 863-2821
>> text 518 207-7247
>>
>> Email;
>> krat...@roadrunner.com
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>>
>>
>> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can
>> be found via search.
>>
>>
>> Thank you both for the informative input.
>>
>>
>> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from
>> Craft Elements?
>> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand
>> that correctly?
>> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made
>> by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a
>> hybrid.
>>
>>
>> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft
>> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the
>> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>>
>>
>> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input
>> are what keep us going.
>>
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>>
>>
>> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the
>> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex
>>  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to
>> accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s
>> always out of them.
>>
>> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used
>> a flattening sled to take out the twists.
>>
>> Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening
>> mill and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that
>> includes both sides.
>>
>> Michael Kratky
>> --
>> --
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Just saw this...
>> Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>> https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
>>
>> Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
>>
>> $499 USD
>>  48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00
>> 48x40" / Festool - $499.00
>>48x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.00
>> 48x48" / Univer

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Tim Ziegler]

Our wood working group Central Minnesota WoodWorkers have one. I'd have to
look to see which brand but its big.
Does Tru Track make one?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 8:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Michael,
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on.
>
> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you
> mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.
> Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.
>
>
>
> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening
> Mill?
>
>
>
> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
>
> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>
>
> Mac,
> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft.
> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total
> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust
> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>
>
> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can
> be found via search.
>
>
> Thank you both for the informative input.
>
>
> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from
> Craft Elements?
> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand
> that correctly?
> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made
> by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a
> hybrid.
>
>
> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft
> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the
> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>
>
> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input
> are what keep us going.
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>
>
> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the
> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex
>  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to
> accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s
> always out of them.
>
> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used
> a flattening sled to take out the twists.
>
> Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening
> mill and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that
> includes both sides.
>
> Michael Kratky
> --
> --
>
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Just saw this...
> Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
>
> Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
>
> $499 USD
>  48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00
> 48x40" / Festool - $499.00
>48x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.00
> 48x48" / Universal 1 - $507.00
>   48x48" / Festool - $507.00
> 48x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $507.00
>   48x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out
>   48x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool -
> Sold out  48x60" [Restock Late April]
> / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out
> 72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out
> 72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out
>   

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Tim Woodard]

We made one withe scraps for a ash ring coffeetable
https://youtu.be/72fr4bkYtvw you can use LOM for flatning jig.

On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Michael,
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on.
>
> When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you
> mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.
> Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.
>
>
>
> Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening
> Mill?
>
>
>
> You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
>
> Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions
>
>
> Mac,
> The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
> I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft.
> The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total
> cost its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust
> collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.
>
> Michael Kratky
> 119 Riverview Rd.,
> Northville, N.Y. 12134
>
> 518 863-2821
> text 518 207-7247
>
> Email;
> krat...@roadrunner.com
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>
> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>
>
> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can
> be found via search.
>
>
> Thank you both for the informative input.
>
>
> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from
> Craft Elements?
> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand
> that correctly?
> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made
> by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a
> hybrid.
>
>
> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft
> Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the
> internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>
>
> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input
> are what keep us going.
>
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
>
>
> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the
> components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex
>  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to
> accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s
> always out of them.
>
> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used
> a flattening sled to take out the twists.
>
> Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening
> mill and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that
> includes both sides.
>
> Michael Kratky
> --
> --
>
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Just saw this...
> Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
>
> Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
>
> $499 USD
>  48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00
> 48x40" / Festool - $499.00
>48x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.00
> 48x48" / Universal 1 - $507.00
>   48x48" / Festool - $507.00
> 48x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $507.00
>   48x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out
>   48x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool -
> Sold out  48x60" [Restock Late April]
> / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out
> 72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out
> 72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out
> 72x40" [Restock Late April] / Blank
> (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out
>  72x48" [Restock Late April]

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[M.W.Foscue]

Michael,

Thanks. 
Your analysis of the total cost of ownership for a slab mill are spot on. 
When it comes to when I think I want to flatten a slab - those points you 
mentioned are the ones I have come to be using in my weighing what to do.  
Thanks again for pointing them out.  Have yet to "pull the trigger" on one.

Does anyone else in our LOM Group own or have access to a Slab Flattening Mill?

You are VERY FORTUNATE to have those resources so close/convenient to you.
Count yourself VERY BLESSED!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 10:21 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Slab Flattening discussions

Mac,The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft. 
The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total cost 
its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust 
collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.

Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134
 
518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247
 
Email;
krat...@roadrunner.com
 


On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),

I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be 
found via search.

Thank you both for the informative input.

Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft 
Elements? 
Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that 
correctly?
The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by 
Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.

Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements or 
did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - like 
Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)

Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are 
what keep us going.

Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?


Have been following this  slab mill for some time.  Most all the 
components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and 
the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32 x 102, 
to accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and hes 
always out of them.   
For anything up to 24 wide I have helical head  planer for that and used 
a flattening sled to take out the twists. 
 
Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill 
and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that includes 
both sides.

Michael Kratky

On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:
Just saw this...Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
 
C.A.G.
 
https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
 
Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening MillSKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1$499 USD

48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00  
  48x40" / Festool - $499.0048x40" 
/ Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.0048x48" 
/ Universal 1 - $507.0048x48" / Festool - 
$507.0048x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
$507.0048x60" [Restock Late April] / 
Universal 1 - Sold out48x60" [Restock Late 
April] / Festool - Sold out48x60" [Restock 
Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
Sold out72x48" [Restock Late April] / 
Universal 1 - Sold out72x48" [Restock Late 
April] / Festool - Sold out72x48" [Restock 
Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
Sold out96x40" / Universal 1 - $676.00  
  96x40" / Festool - $676.00
96x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $676.00
96x48" / Universal 1 - $684.00  

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Jeff Richmond]

I was thinking it looked a bit light duty for the larger / wider slabs but the pricing is attractive compared to other options.If anyone jumps on one of these, please share your feedback.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
 
I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be found via search.
 
Thank you both for the informative input.
 
Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft Elements? 
Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that correctly?
The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.
 
Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
 
Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are what keep us going.
 
Mac

-Original Message-From: Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AMTo: Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?


 
Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and he’s always out of them.  
 
For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used a flattening sled to take out the twists. 
 
Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that includes both sides.



Michael Kratky



On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  wrote:
Just saw this...



Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
 
C.A.G.
 
https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
 



Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill
SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
$499 USD


               
         48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00       
                    
         48x40" / Festool - $499.00       
                    
         48x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.00       
                    
         48x48" / Universal 1 - $507.00       
                    
         48x48" / Festool - $507.00       
                    
         48x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $507.00       
                    
         48x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         48x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         48x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         72x40" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         72x48" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         72x48" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         72x48" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         72x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         72x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         72x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         96x40" / Universal 1 - $676.00       
                    
         96x40" / Festool - $676.00       
                    
         96x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $676.00       
                    
         96x48" / Universal 1 - $684.00       
                    
         96x48" / Festool - $684.00       
                    
         96x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $684.00       
                    
         96x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         96x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         96x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         120x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         120x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         120x40" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
                    
         120x48" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out       
                    
         120x48" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out       
                    
         120x48" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out       
             

Re: Slab Flattening discussions

[Owner]

Mac,
The response was to the Crafted Elements mill posted by Craig.
I farm my slabs out to be flattened and sanded as I noted for $1 sq ft. 
The Woodpeckers slab flattener I believe  is the best but at $1500 total cost 
its too expensive not including the cost of the router, bits and dust 
collection, electricity,  not to mention the dedicated space it requires.

Michael Kratky
119 Riverview Rd., 
Northville, N.Y. 12134

518 863-2821
text 518 207-7247

Email;
krat...@roadrunner.com



> On Apr 20, 2023, at 9:57 AM, M.W.Foscue  wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),
>  
> I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be 
> found via search.
>  
> Thank you both for the informative input.
>  
> Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft 
> Elements? 
> Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that 
> correctly?
> The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by 
> Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.
>  
> Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements 
> or did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - 
> like Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)
>  
> Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are 
> what keep us going.
>  
> Mac
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?
> 
>  
> Have been following this  “slab mill” for some time.  Most all the components 
> can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and the listed 
> size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32” x 102”, to accommodate that 
> size the price doubles from the base package and he’s always out of them.  
>  
> For anything up to 24” wide I have helical head  planer for that and used a 
> flattening sled to take out the twists. 
>  
> Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill 
> and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that 
> includes both sides.
> 
> Michael Kratky
> On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Just saw this...
> Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
>  
> Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening Mill
> SKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1
> $499 USD
> 
> Size:
> 48x40"
> Router Plate:
> Universal 1
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> ADD TO CART
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> 
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> 
> The Crafted Elements Router Sled (Wood Slab Flattening Mill) is perfect for 
> small wood shops and garage woodworking warriors that have limited space. If 
> you don't have the space or money to buy a large CNC machine ($10K+) or 
> industrial planer ($70K+) then a router based slab levelling jig is a great 
> solution.
> 
> Our router sled is built with industrial grade 20mm components commonly used 
> in CNC machines, large 3D printers and industrial automation. We precision 
> cut and machine 1/2" thick acrylic components for the cross rail brackets and 
> router mount to create a durable, cost effective solution that is going to 
> save you time, money and boost shop efficiency.
> 
> Save shop space with the easy to attach and detach linear rails. Once the 
> initial assembly is completed, the router carriage (sub-assembly) and rails 
> can be setup and ready to go on your existing flat and straight workbench 
> within 2 minutes.
> 
> The Crafted Elements Router Sled jig comes with everything you need except 
> the router, slab flattening bit, plywood rail risers and workbench. Use any 
> compatible full sized router with a range of commonly available spoil board 
> (slab flattening) bits. The router base plate features pre-drilled holes for 
> most commonly used routers, making assembly that much quicker. We also offer 
> a blank "drill it yourself" base plate if you have a router that isn't in our 
> compatibility list.
> 
> The router sled is available in lengths of 4', 6', 8' (2 sets of 4' rails) 
> and 10' (4'+6' rails) with cross bar widths of 40", 48" or 60". An optional 
> dust collection shroud and 2.5" boot 
> 
>  is available to help catch some of the dust created by slab milling.
> 
> The size of the Crafted Elements router sled represents the approximate 
> footprint of the sled components when assembled and reflects the workbench 
> area required to mount it. The slab flattening area for each size router sled 
> when using a 2.5" 

Slab Flattening discussions

[M.W.Foscue]

Hello Michael and Curtis (and all the rest of The LOM Group),

I changed the SUBJ line - so further discussions re: Slab Flattening can be 
found via search.

Thank you both for the informative input.

Michael, are some of your comments regarding the flattening "kit" from Craft 
Elements? 
Sounds like from your experience the round rails flex.  Did I understand that 
correctly?
The only slab flattening mill I am somewhat familiar with is the one made by 
Woodpeckers Tools.  They do not use round rails - rather somewhat of a hybrid.

Would you mind sharing some photos of your setup? (Is it from Craft Elements or 
did you assemble yours from components you ordered from the internet - like 
Curtis, Bill, and Tim Z have done?)

Thanks again for participating in our discussions.  Your comments/input are 
what keep us going.

Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Apr 20, 2023 8:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Could be a Legacy MOD?

Have been following this  slab mill for some time.  Most all the 
components can be bought on Amazon for 1/3, the round router rails flex  and 
the listed size is too small for my slabs I mill myself 32 x 102, 
to accommodate that size the price doubles from the base package and hes 
always out of them.   
For anything up to 24 wide I have helical head  planer for that and used 
a flattening sled to take out the twists. 
 
Also have a saw mill 30 minutes away with a Wood-Mizer combo flattening mill 
and sander who charges me $1 sg ft to flatten and sand the slabs that includes 
both sides.

Michael Kratky

On Apr 20, 2023, at 1:07 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:
Just saw this...Bagging to make into a Supper Legacy unit. ;-)
 
C.A.G.
 
https://craftedelements.com/products/router-sled-wood-slab-flattening-mill?variant=43935550537950
 
Router Sled - Wood Slab Flattening MillSKU CE-RS-48X40-BUNDLE-U1$499 USD

48x40" / Universal 1 - $499.00  
  48x40" / Festool - $499.0048x40" 
/ Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $499.0048x48" 
/ Universal 1 - $507.0048x48" / Festool - 
$507.0048x48" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
$507.0048x60" [Restock Late April] / 
Universal 1 - Sold out48x60" [Restock Late 
April] / Festool - Sold out48x60" [Restock 
Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out  
  72x40" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
Sold out72x48" [Restock Late April] / 
Universal 1 - Sold out72x48" [Restock Late 
April] / Festool - Sold out72x48" [Restock 
Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out  
  72x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - 
Sold out96x40" / Universal 1 - $676.00  
  96x40" / Festool - $676.00
96x40" / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - $676.00
96x48" / Universal 1 - $684.00
96x48" / Festool - $684.0096x48" / Blank 
(Drill It Yourself) - $684.0096x60" 
[Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out   
 96x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out   
 96x60" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out 
   120x40" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold 
out120x40" [Restock Late April] / Festool - 
Sold out120x40" [Restock Late April] / 
Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out120x48" 
[Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold out   
 120x48" [Restock Late April] / Festool - Sold out  
  120x48" [Restock Late April] / Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out   
 120x60" [Restock Late April] / Universal 1 - Sold 
out120x60" [Restock Late April] / Festool - 
Sold out120x60" [Restock Late April] / 
Blank (Drill It Yourself) - Sold out144x40" 
[Restock Late