Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt
Thanks Bill yea the more I work on the Legacy the more I will understand it. Mike spent a lot of time explaining pitch but if you don;t use it you lose it. I also have the VCR tapes that are in excellent shape that I've been watching so that has helped too. I think it would be fun to make a big Nut and Bolt combo like that and just have it laying around. So at some point. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:14 PM wrote: > The thread is a single start spiral with a ½ inch pitch done with a 90 > degree V bit router bit > > So you set the gears on the legacy using the .25 reduction gear set to ½ “ > pitch and mill the spiral see pics. > > Then mount the router horizontal on the cross slide see pics. Then bore > out the nut see pics (the cross slide puts on the cuts) then use the 90 > degree thread router bit and cut the single start spiral with a ½ inch > pitch inside the nut, your cutting from the side using the cross slide to > deepen the cut each time see pic. This was done on the revo only because it > makes it easier to see for pictures. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:57 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Thanks Bill, > > > > I'm still trying to wrap my head around pitch etc so a video would be > helpful. Thanks again. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:45 AM wrote: > > Sorry I made that in the early days when I only had still shots I thought > better a slide show than nothing I will redo a proper video of it some time > ]. The answer is a 1/2inch pitch after all a thread is just another spiral. > I just cut a little deeper each time till the bolt screws in. and the dia > of the nuts bore to start with is the bottom of the thread on the bolt > measured with callipers plus 1/32 for clearance. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:42 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Am I the only one that see's that as pictures? Is it not playing as a > video on my end? > > So how did you advance into the part Bill when you run your threads? > > > > by the way where has Joe been again? > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM M.W.Foscue wrote: > > Thanks Bill & Mike, > > I watched the full length "video" of Bill's. I saw how he set up his > equipment to 'thread the outside of the "bolt" and then the "Rube Goldberg" > setup to use the side-cutting thread cutter by Magnate to thread the inside > of the nut. > > It is my thinking that very few Group members have a setup such that we > can make that Magnate side cutter put threads on a wooden piece to create > either a bolt or a nut. Several of you guys are GENIUSES when it comes to > "making it work"! (Mike P; Tim K; Bill B; Curtis; and, yes - EVEN NY Joe! > (LoL! Actually ESPECIALLY NY Joe!!!) - among several others). > > Thanks for your input. > > Mac > -- > > -Original Message- > From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" > Sent: Dec 28, 2020 5:34 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit > > Yes, Watch the video here is a clip from it > -- > > On 12/28/2020 12:38 PM, M.W.Foscue wrote: > > Mike, > > Tim (I think) & I are referring to if you use the "Thread-cutting" Magnate > bit that's on eBay. Not the bit Bill used in his video on the screw > shank. That bit was essentially a V-bit. The eBay bit is side-cutting. > > Mac > -- > > -Original Message- > From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" > Sent: Dec 28, 2020 1:06 PM > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit > > Attach the router to the carriage and it will be set on the gear pitch of > your choice. > -- > > On 12/28/2020 11:37 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > thanks Mike > > > > How is it fed then? to keep the bit on track? > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > -- > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legacym...@iglide.net> wrote: > > Here is a video from Bill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1RPgkrqiBk > > On 12/28/2020 10:35 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote:
RE: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt
Ps easy just remember pitch is how far the saddle travels with one full turn of the work Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2020 2:07 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt Thanks Bill yea the more I work on the Legacy the more I will understand it. Mike spent a lot of time explaining pitch but if you don;t use it you lose it. I also have the VCR tapes that are in excellent shape that I've been watching so that has helped too. I think it would be fun to make a big Nut and Bolt combo like that and just have it laying around. So at some point. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:14 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: The thread is a single start spiral with a ½ inch pitch done with a 90 degree V bit router bit So you set the gears on the legacy using the .25 reduction gear set to ½ “ pitch and mill the spiral see pics. Then mount the router horizontal on the cross slide see pics. Then bore out the nut see pics (the cross slide puts on the cuts) then use the 90 degree thread router bit and cut the single start spiral with a ½ inch pitch inside the nut, your cutting from the side using the cross slide to deepen the cut each time see pic. This was done on the revo only because it makes it easier to see for pictures. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:57 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit Thanks Bill, I'm still trying to wrap my head around pitch etc so a video would be helpful. Thanks again. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:45 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Sorry I made that in the early days when I only had still shots I thought better a slide show than nothing I will redo a proper video of it some time ]. The answer is a 1/2inch pitch after all a thread is just another spiral. I just cut a little deeper each time till the bolt screws in. and the dia of the nuts bore to start with is the bottom of the thread on the bolt measured with callipers plus 1/32 for clearance. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit Am I the only one that see's that as pictures? Is it not playing as a video on my end? So how did you advance into the part Bill when you run your threads? by the way where has Joe been again? Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: Thanks Bill & Mike, I watched the full length "video" of Bill's. I saw how he set up his equipment to 'thread the outside of the "bolt" and then the "Rube Goldberg" setup to use the side-cutting thread cutter by Magnate to thread the inside of the nut. It is my thinking that very few Group members have a setup such that we can make that Magnate side cutter put threads on a wooden piece to create either a bolt or a nut. Several of you guys are GENIUSES when it comes to "making it work"! (Mike P; Tim K; Bill B; Curtis; and, yes - EVEN NY Joe! (LoL! Actually ESPECIALLY NY Joe!!!) - among several others). Thanks for your input. Mac _ -Original Message- From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" Sent: Dec 28, 2020 5:34 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Thread cutting router bit Yes, Watch the video here is a clip from it _ On 12/28/2020 12:38 PM, M.W.Foscue wrote: Mike, Tim (I think) & I are referring to if you use the "Thread-cutting" Magnate bit that's on eBay. Not the bit Bill used in his video on the screw shank. That bit was essentially a V-bit. The eBay bit is side-cutting. Mac _ -Original Message- From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" Sent
Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt
Then I better just do it right? Better finish the kitchen cabinets first though. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:11 PM wrote: > It is lol > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 December 2020 2:07 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt > > > > Thanks Bill yea the more I work on the Legacy the more I will understand > it. > > Mike spent a lot of time explaining pitch but if you don;t use it you lose > it. > > I also have the VCR tapes that are in excellent shape that I've been > watching so > > that has helped too. > > I think it would be fun to make a big Nut and Bolt combo like that and > just > > have it laying around. So at some point. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:14 PM wrote: > > The thread is a single start spiral with a ½ inch pitch done with a 90 > degree V bit router bit > > So you set the gears on the legacy using the .25 reduction gear set to ½ “ > pitch and mill the spiral see pics. > > Then mount the router horizontal on the cross slide see pics. Then bore > out the nut see pics (the cross slide puts on the cuts) then use the 90 > degree thread router bit and cut the single start spiral with a ½ inch > pitch inside the nut, your cutting from the side using the cross slide to > deepen the cut each time see pic. This was done on the revo only because it > makes it easier to see for pictures. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:57 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Thanks Bill, > > > > I'm still trying to wrap my head around pitch etc so a video would be > helpful. Thanks again. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:45 AM wrote: > > Sorry I made that in the early days when I only had still shots I thought > better a slide show than nothing I will redo a proper video of it some time > ]. The answer is a 1/2inch pitch after all a thread is just another spiral. > I just cut a little deeper each time till the bolt screws in. and the dia > of the nuts bore to start with is the bottom of the thread on the bolt > measured with callipers plus 1/32 for clearance. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:42 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Am I the only one that see's that as pictures? Is it not playing as a > video on my end? > > So how did you advance into the part Bill when you run your threads? > > > > by the way where has Joe been again? > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM M.W.Foscue wrote: > > Thanks Bill & Mike, > > I watched the full length "video" of Bill's. I saw how he set up his > equipment to 'thread the outside of the "bolt" and then the "Rube Goldberg" > setup to use the side-cutting thread cutter by Magnate to thread the inside > of the nut. > > It is my thinking that very few Group members have a setup such that we > can make that Magnate side cutter put threads on a wooden piece to create > either a bolt or a nut. Several of you guys are GENIUSES when it comes to > "making it work"! (Mike P; Tim K; Bill B; Curtis; and, yes - EVEN NY Joe! > (LoL! Actually ESPECIALLY NY Joe!!!) - among several others). > > Thanks for your input. > > Mac > --
Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt
thanks Bill Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:13 PM wrote: > Ps easy just remember pitch is how far the saddle travels with one full > turn of the work > > > > Bill > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 December 2020 2:07 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit making a nut and bolt > > > > Thanks Bill yea the more I work on the Legacy the more I will understand > it. > > Mike spent a lot of time explaining pitch but if you don;t use it you lose > it. > > I also have the VCR tapes that are in excellent shape that I've been > watching so > > that has helped too. > > I think it would be fun to make a big Nut and Bolt combo like that and > just > > have it laying around. So at some point. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 8:14 PM wrote: > > The thread is a single start spiral with a ½ inch pitch done with a 90 > degree V bit router bit > > So you set the gears on the legacy using the .25 reduction gear set to ½ “ > pitch and mill the spiral see pics. > > Then mount the router horizontal on the cross slide see pics. Then bore > out the nut see pics (the cross slide puts on the cuts) then use the 90 > degree thread router bit and cut the single start spiral with a ½ inch > pitch inside the nut, your cutting from the side using the cross slide to > deepen the cut each time see pic. This was done on the revo only because it > makes it easier to see for pictures. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:57 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Thanks Bill, > > > > I'm still trying to wrap my head around pitch etc so a video would be > helpful. Thanks again. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 3:45 AM wrote: > > Sorry I made that in the early days when I only had still shots I thought > better a slide show than nothing I will redo a proper video of it some time > ]. The answer is a 1/2inch pitch after all a thread is just another spiral. > I just cut a little deeper each time till the bolt screws in. and the dia > of the nuts bore to start with is the bottom of the thread on the bolt > measured with callipers plus 1/32 for clearance. > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 December 2020 10:42 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Thread cutting router bit > > > > Am I the only one that see's that as pictures? Is it not playing as a > video on my end? > > So how did you advance into the part Bill when you run your threads? > > > > by the way where has Joe been again? > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 5:02 PM M.W.Foscue wrote: > > Thanks Bill & Mike, > > I watched the full length "video" of Bill's. I saw how he set up his > equipment to 'thread the outside of the "bolt" and then the "Rube Goldberg" > setup to use the side-cutting thread cutter by Magnate to thread the inside > of the nut. > > It is my thinking that very few Group members have a setup such that we > can make that Magnate side cutter put threads on a wooden piece to create > either a bolt or a nut. Several of you guys are GENIUSES when it comes to > "making it work"! (Mike P; Tim K; Bill B; Curtis; and, yes - EVEN NY Joe! > (LoL! Actually ESPECIALLY NY Joe!!!) - among several others). > > Thanks for your input. > >
