Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread leo macdonald
Brian and Ron, thanks for your replies, I hope that the fix solves this 
problem. Leo




From: Brian/Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:23:05 -0500

Ron and Leo,

For Ron:

The bug does affect the display. It is the Set Relationship process that 
has the bug and that is what calculates the relationships which appear on 
the screen. There are also problems with the relationship calculator which 
can be used to caclulate the relaionship(s) between any two people. The Set 
Relationships problem has been reported as fixed by the programmer but no 
testing of the fix has been completed.


For Leo:
The bug in the Set Relationships calculator affect those half-anything 
relationships, that is why your half- 5th cousins do not show any 
relationship on the screen.


Brian
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ronald ferguson wrote:

Leo,

Try using Tools>Set Relationships after ensuring that the correct start 
person is highlighted. There is a problem with the Relationship Calculator 
at present which I understand is sorted in the next update. I haven't 
found that it affects the display though.


Ron Ferguson


From: "leo macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:41 -0400

In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is a 
small window that usually displays the relationship of the person that 
you are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 
6.0.0.110, I was adding some children to a family who share the same 4th 
great grandfather as myself but the display window does not show the 
relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo



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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2 - What could it be

2006-11-06 Thread Dick Davis
I would like to hear form other uses that describes or provides what the 
program could be - what could really be done with the program. Also, 
would you like to see interface with Legacy.


Of course, these need to be sent off list rather than to the list here.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Death date Calendar..... [Memory Calendar]

2006-11-06 Thread Cathy

At 01:36 AM 5/11/2006, you wrote:
   So, I am hoping that somebody can tell me how to set up a search 
for all persons having a  "January death date" ,

Sandra Tyler Duncan


Hi Sandra,
Currently it can't be done in Legacy as you need a contains search 
and the Search on dates doesn't have that option.


The easiest way currently to pick them out is to export Name and 
Death Date - and Spouse(s) (or AKA if you put married names in the 
AKA) - to a csv file (use the Name List - Print)

Open the csv file in Word (not Excel - dates are more complex in Excel)
Then search for each month.

You can enter the names or cut and paste them to on your memorial 
calendar list as you find them.


Cathy 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Another source question

2006-11-06 Thread Gail Rich Nestor

Hi Myrna, just open up a master source, start editing it, and click
Save.  It will ask you if you want to "apply changes to ALL references
of this master source" or "apply the changes to a NEW copy of this
master source."

Choose option B and you will have your new source.  This does come in
handy with different census years in the same county.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On 11/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello listers,
   After following all the mail about sourcing and checking the
archives I have still not found the answer to my question. How do
you make a *copy* of a master source and then edit it? I know
there has to be something I am missing. I am trying to keep all
my census the same so it would be easier to copy and edit than to
try to remember.
Thanks,
Myrna in sunny Mexico



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RE: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yup, that's weird, and I think it's either a Yahoo
problem or the LUG mail list problem. There's nothing
different in Outlook that would cause this.

Laura

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

Hi, Laura
Yes, I am receiving your messagesin duplicate.
The headers are almost identical, but one has the
words "mailed-By
legacyfamilytree.com" after your email address, thus

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Date: Nov 6, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

Weird!
Regards,
Mary Young


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RE: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yup, that's weird, and I think it's either a Yahoo
problem or the LUG mail list problem. There's nothing
different in Outlook that would cause this.

Laura

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mary Young
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:54 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

Hi, Laura
Yes, I am receiving your messagesin duplicate.
The headers are almost identical, but one has the
words "mailed-By
legacyfamilytree.com" after your email address, thus

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mailed-By:
legacyfamilytree.com
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Nov 6, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

Weird!
Regards,
Mary Young


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[LegacyUG] Another source question

2006-11-06 Thread myrna20
Hello listers,
After following all the mail about sourcing and checking the 
archives I have still not found the answer to my question. How do 
you make a *copy* of a master source and then edit it? I know 
there has to be something I am missing. I am trying to keep all 
my census the same so it would be easier to copy and edit than to 
try to remember.
Thanks,
Myrna in sunny Mexico 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread David S Brookes
Oh well - it was worth a try!

Best of luck!

Good Wishes,

David

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McVearry
Sent: 06 November 2006 17:40
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


David,
Thank you for trying to figure this out for us.  The trouble with your
theory of how this all came about is that the word "Unsubscribe" was never
used in the subject line.  The subject of the original poster's email, to
which both Lloyd and I responded by hitting Reply, was "Please
Help.Important." -- Alice


> [Original Message]
> From: David S Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 11/6/2006 11:27:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
>
> I think after all of these e-mails, I think I now understand what all 
> this is about.  Someone please tell me if this is right.
>
> 1.  Occasionally people send messages to the User Group asking how 
> they
can
> 'avoid getting' all the e-mail from the user group.
>
> 2.  The answer is to send an e-mail back to the user group with the 
> word 'unsubscribe' in the subject box.
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> 3.  If people offer this advice (given in 2.) to people who want to 
> know
how
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in
> the subject box, in some shape or form, they will find themselves 
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> The way I understand it is that Lloyd, in offering good advice to 
> those
who
> wish to unsubscribe has found himself unsubscribed because of using 
> the
word
> 'unsubscribe' somewhere in the subject box.
>
> Do I have it, or not?
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Brian/Support
> Sent: 06 November 2006 15:00
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
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>
> Lloyd and others,
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> Our old mailing list software would only accept unsubscribe requests 
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deleting
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like 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread Mary Young

Hi, Laura
Yes, I am receiving your messagesin duplicate.
The headers are almost identical, but one has the words "mailed-By
legacyfamilytree.com" after your email address, thus

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mailed-By: 
legacyfamilytree.com
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Nov 6, 2006 5:55 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

Weird!
Regards,
Mary Young


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Re: [LegacyUG] scources and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread Bruce Jones

I will give you my opinion on your questions.
Yes, I believe you would be the Primary Source, unless you have
something on paper
Yes, Birth Certificates would be a Primary Source
Print out your pedigree charts as you need them.
Bruce

On 11/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If this comes through twice, my apologies.  I sent it originally at
about 11:30 am and it still has not come through so I thought I would
give it another shot.



I am really trying to site scources for my research this time.

If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's
birthdates, etc. would I be
considered a Primary Source?

I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.
Are these Primary Sources?

Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too.  I do Family
Group sheets for
most if not all.  I do not do the Pedigree charts for all.  Should I?
Maybe print them
out on as needed/wanted?

Thank you in advance.

Naomi Black




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread ronald ferguson

Thanks for the update Brian.

I did not know whether it affected the display or not, simply that I had not 
observed a problem in that context but have met it in others.


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From: Brian/Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 15:23:05 -0500

Ron and Leo,

For Ron:

The bug does affect the display. It is the Set Relationship process that 
has the bug and that is what calculates the relationships which appear on 
the screen. There are also problems with the relationship calculator which 
can be used to caclulate the relaionship(s) between any two people. The Set 
Relationships problem has been reported as fixed by the programmer but no 
testing of the fix has been completed.


For Leo:
The bug in the Set Relationships calculator affect those half-anything 
relationships, that is why your half- 5th cousins do not show any 
relationship on the screen.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

ronald ferguson wrote:

Leo,

Try using Tools>Set Relationships after ensuring that the correct start 
person is highlighted. There is a problem with the Relationship Calculator 
at present which I understand is sorted in the next update. I haven't 
found that it affects the display though.


Ron Ferguson


From: "leo macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:41 -0400

In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is a 
small window that usually displays the relationship of the person that 
you are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 
6.0.0.110, I was adding some children to a family who share the same 4th 
great grandfather as myself but the display window does not show the 
relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread The Kepleys
Title: Message



I have been on mailing 
lists where if you type the word "unsub" in the body of the message, not just in 
the subject line, you are unsubbed.
 
I didn't type out the 
whole word, you noticed, since we know what comes next!  =)  I'm 
enjoying the list too much for that to happen!
 
So all these good folks 
that have been trying to help people who want off have been getting kicked off 
themselves!  So much for being a good Samaritan!
 
Teri


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. 
BrenzelSent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:41 PMTo: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: 
[LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

I responded to someone's request for help to 
stop getting emails from the list and found that I had been removed from the 
list too.  This is the message that I got:
 
- MailEnable: 
You have been removed from the list (LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).
 
 To re-subscribe to this list, please send a message back to the 
 list with 'subscribe' as the 
subject.-
 
What gives?
 
Mary

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alice 
  L McVearrySent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:08 AMTo: 
  LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: 
  [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
  
  Hello Lloyd,
   
  I replied to the same request for help and within minutes found myself 
  bumped off the list, just like yourself.  Very strange happenings.  
  -- Alice
  
   
  
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From: 

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 11/6/2006 6:20:22 AM 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got 
bumped off LegacyUserGroup


In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case I am already unsubscribed 
  from LUG, I am sending this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday I  replied to an 
  e-mail wanting to know how to stop getting mail from LUG. For  
  that, I received an e-mail from LUG that I had been unsubscribed from 
  the list.  This e-mail is to let the List Managers know that if I 
  am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my Legacy data from my 
  computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like Legacy but, 
  if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  booted 
  off for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this list 
  or  the software.Lloyd

 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread M. Brenzel
Title: Message



I responded to someone's request for help to 
stop getting emails from the list and found that I had been removed from the 
list too.  This is the message that I got:
 
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What gives?
 
Mary

  
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  [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
  
  Hello Lloyd,
   
  I replied to the same request for help and within minutes found myself 
  bumped off the list, just like yourself.  Very strange happenings.  
  -- Alice
  
   
  
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In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case I am already unsubscribed 
  from LUG, I am sending this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday I  replied to an 
  e-mail wanting to know how to stop getting mail from LUG. For  
  that, I received an e-mail from LUG that I had been unsubscribed from 
  the list.  This e-mail is to let the List Managers know that if I 
  am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my Legacy data from my 
  computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like Legacy but, 
  if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  booted 
  off for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this list 
  or  the software.Lloyd

 
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Re: [LegacyUG] primary scource and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread Gail Rich Nestor

Hi Naomi, any facts for which I have paper back-up (kids' birth
certificate, etc), I cite paper that as my primary source.  Although
you would be considered a primary source for a birth if you attended
the birth, keep in mind that you are recalling this fact at a time
probably much later than the event occurred (not that you're going to
get the date wrong!).

To me (although this seems to be a silly example), one is not a
primary source for one's own birth.  Although you were present at the
event, you would not be able to recall the date without being told.
Therefore, a birth certificate is more appropriate as a primary
source.

For the vital dates of cousins and such, I typically rely on an
e-mail, conversation notes, letter, or whatever, as documentation.  In
Legacy, I cite the name, the relationship, the means of (and date of)
communication.  None of these communications are primary sources for a
person's own birth, although they could be primary for their own
marriage.  Again, you sort of run into the question of "how long has
it been since that date?"  The best way is to go and get all those
marriage certificates, etc., but then again, we usually do not need to
prove these relationships and dates with original docs. unless they
are needed to clear up a conflict with our own direct line.

I keep all my original docs in sheet protectors and index them.  I
also scan them into the computer within a complex file structure.  I
almost never print our group sheets and other reports unless I
specifically need them for a research project.  Legacy allows you to
get a great visual image of family relationships.

Hope this gives you some food for thought...
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

On 11/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am really trying to site scources for my research this time.

If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's
birthdates, etc. would I be considered a Primary Source?

I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.
Are these Primary Sources?

Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too.  I do Family
Group sheets for most if not all.  I do not do the Pedigree charts for
all.  Should I?  Maybe print them out on as needed/wanted?

Thank you in advance.

Naomi Black


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Re: [LegacyUG] primary scource and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread Nicholas Cirillo
Naomi,  I have no suggestions on the second part of your question. However, regarding self as a primary source, I use this when I know from having been present or have on good information that an event occurred, for example, I just attended a nephew's wedding. I don't feel I need to ask the couple for a marriage certificate to enter it. I use something to the effect of "Contemporaneous history of" the dots being whomever since I will use such a source for a lot of recent things where the history giver is alive and reliable. I know this will stimulate disagreement on the forum but that is what I do. I do keep documentation that is available such as wedding announcements to back up my history.  Nick Cirillo  Fairfax VA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am really trying to site scources for my research this
 time.If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's birthdates, etc. would I be considered a Primary Source?I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.Are these Primary Sources?Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too. I do Family Group sheets for most if not all. I do not do the Pedigree charts for all. Should I? Maybe print them out on as needed/wanted?Thank you in advance.Naomi BlackThis message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit
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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread leo macdonald
Hi Ron, yes I did check the start person, myself, by running the set 
relationship and I had the same result, My 4th great grandfather shows up 
correctly. But when I check my half-5th cousin nothing shows up in the 
relationship window.
I then set the start person as my half-5th cousin, and set the relationship 
using Tools>set relationships and I get the same results, ur mutual 4th 
great grandfather appears where it should. But when I click on my name there 
is nothing appearing in the relationship window.




From: "ronald ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 18:14:45 +

Leo,

Try using Tools>Set Relationships after ensuring that the correct start 
person is highlighted. There is a problem with the Relationship Calculator 
at present which I understand is sorted in the next update. I haven't found 
that it affects the display though.


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From: "leo macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:41 -0400

In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is a 
small window that usually displays the relationship of the person that you 
are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 6.0.0.110, 
I was adding some children to a family who share the same 4th great 
grandfather as myself but the display window does not show the 
relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo


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Re: [LegacyUG] primary scource and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread Gail Rich Nestor

Hi Nick, I hope I didn't come across as being "snooty" with my earlier
comments about using oneself as a primary source!  :-)

I would definitely feel comfortable citing myself if I had just
attended a cousin's wedding or something like that.  It's mainly those
direct lines where we need to get more picky.  There is one other
motive that does occasionally cause otherwise reliable people to give
wrong information.  It's that itching need to cover something up.  It
happens.  I've had a cousin give a marriage date which I used in my
files.  Later, when I was at the courthouse, I happened to pull that
record since I was there anyway.  Oops - the date the cousin gave me
was off a bit.  I'm sure it was not due to senility.  Again, this is
not so important for collateral lines.  It's just something to be
aware of as we go about compiling our family tree.

It's all such a juggling act!
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


On 11/6/06, Nicholas Cirillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Naomi,
I have no suggestions on the second part of your question. However,
regarding self as a primary source, I use this when I know from having been
present or have on good information that an event occurred, for example, I
just attended a nephew's wedding. I don't feel I need to ask the couple for
a marriage certificate to enter it. I use something to the effect of
"Contemporaneous history of" the dots being whomever since I will use
such a source for a lot of recent things where the history giver is alive
and reliable. I know this will stimulate disagreement on the forum but that
is what I do. I do keep documentation that is available such as wedding
announcements to back up my history.
Nick Cirillo
Fairfax VA

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am really trying to site scources for my research this time.

If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's
birthdates, etc. would I be considered a Primary Source?

I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.
Are these Primary Sources?

Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too. I do Family
Group sheets for most if not all. I do not do the Pedigree charts for
all. Should I? Maybe print them out on as needed/wanted?

Thank you in advance.

Naomi Black



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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread Markie Flint Blackmon




Adding a person to Clooz will
result in that person being entered in Legacy, but the reverse doesn't
happen. If you enter your people in Legacy, you'll have to do double
entry to keep Clooz in sync.

If you choose to link Clooz and Legacy, deleting some items from Clooz
will result in those items being deleted from Legacy, which may not be
what you want.

Margaret

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The Help file documents a method of importing one's
Legacy data file directly into Clooz which supposedly
links Clooz directly to Legacy. Adding a person to
Clooz will add the person to Legacy (and vice versa,
I suppose). Depending on how much the two programs
are linked, it could mean no double entry.

Laura


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Carol
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

Laura,

I purchased the upgrade for Clooz and I like it much
better than the
original version.  However, I just don't see the need
to use it in my case -
it seems like too much duplication to enter the
census in both Clooz and in
Legacy as an event.  I use Geoff's MRIN filing
system, so I know where my
documents are - thus I'm having a hard time seeing
the need to use Clooz
(although I love the idea of the program).

Carol

  
  
Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely

  
  about
  
  
it, and since I have the original version, am
thinking about upgrading to this new one.

Because of the digitizing of old census records,
etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like

  
  a
  
  
great way to keep track of them.

Laura





  
  



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RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you, Geoff!

I entered a whole group of collateral lineage today,
and used the advanced tagging and advanced sourcing
to do the sources. It was wonderful and fast. Of
course, I know to look at my tagged group before
performing any action on them.

Laura


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of
tree

Laura,

Also see today's article at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/11/del
eting_entire.html or
link to it from within Legacy Home.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

Over the years of collecting genealogy data, I have
discovered that I have lines that stretch back into
antiquity ... as in before year 1000 AD. Most of this
has come from the FamilySearch genealogy data, and
really isn't verified.

I have come to the conclusion that 99% of the
genealogical information before AD 1500 is pure
speculation, so I need to purge my database of most
of mine.

I am finding whole branches of dubious info, and
having backed up the total database and created one
that is purged to work on, I need to know if there is
a way to delete a whole line, as in choosing a
patriarch born about 1500 and then deleting all of
the related ancestors to both parents.

Laura Velez



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[LegacyUG] Re: Advanced Source Citation

2006-11-06 Thread Ruth Nerud
Well, I think! I was able to delete this source citation. I didn't make a 
copy of my file before I did it, another mistake!


Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: Advanced Source Citation


I stupidly used the Advanced Source Citation feature without understanding 
what I was doing. I now have thousands of entries of a source citation that 
should not be there. Is there any way I can remove this Source Citation 
without having to go through each person and deleting them? Kind of the 
reverse of the Advanced Source Citation instructions?


Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread Brian/Support

Ron and Leo,

For Ron:

The bug does affect the display. It is the Set Relationship process that 
has the bug and that is what calculates the relationships which appear 
on the screen. There are also problems with the relationship calculator 
which can be used to caclulate the relaionship(s) between any two 
people. The Set Relationships problem has been reported as fixed by the 
programmer but no testing of the fix has been completed.


For Leo:
The bug in the Set Relationships calculator affect those half-anything 
relationships, that is why your half- 5th cousins do not show any 
relationship on the screen.


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Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Thanks.

ronald ferguson wrote:

Leo,

Try using Tools>Set Relationships after ensuring that the correct start 
person is highlighted. There is a problem with the Relationship 
Calculator at present which I understand is sorted in the next update. I 
haven't found that it affects the display though.


Ron Ferguson


From: "leo macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:41 -0400

In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is 
a small window that usually displays the relationship of the person 
that you are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 
6.0.0.110, I was adding some children to a family who share the same 
4th great grandfather as myself but the display window does not show 
the relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo



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RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread Carol
Laura,

That is the extent of the linking.  If you enter a census record in Clooz 2
and link it to ten people - that's as far as it goes.  You still have to
enter the census as an event to have it show up in Legacy.  Since I track my
documents through Legacy's MRIN  numbers, I don't see the benefit of using
Clooz.

Carol

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:59 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2
> 
> The Help file documents a method of importing one's
> Legacy data file directly into Clooz which supposedly
> links Clooz directly to Legacy. Adding a person to
> Clooz will add the person to Legacy (and vice versa,
> I suppose). Depending on how much the two programs
> are linked, it could mean no double entry.
> 
> Laura
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Carol
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:55 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2
> 
> Laura,
> 
> I purchased the upgrade for Clooz and I like it much
> better than the
> original version.  However, I just don't see the need
> to use it in my case -
> it seems like too much duplication to enter the
> census in both Clooz and in
> Legacy as an event.  I use Geoff's MRIN filing
> system, so I know where my
> documents are - thus I'm having a hard time seeing
> the need to use Clooz
> (although I love the idea of the program).
> 
> Carol
> 
> >
> > Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely
> about
> > it, and since I have the original version, am
> > thinking about upgrading to this new one.
> >
> > Because of the digitizing of old census records,
> > etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like
> a
> > great way to keep track of them.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you, Geoff!

I entered a whole group of collateral lineage today,
and used the advanced tagging and advanced sourcing
to do the sources. It was wonderful and fast. Of
course, I know to look at my tagged group before
performing any action on them.

Laura


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Geoff Rasmussen
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of
tree

Laura,

Also see today's article at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/11/del
eting_entire.html or
link to it from within Legacy Home.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

Over the years of collecting genealogy data, I have
discovered that I have lines that stretch back into
antiquity ... as in before year 1000 AD. Most of this
has come from the FamilySearch genealogy data, and
really isn't verified.

I have come to the conclusion that 99% of the
genealogical information before AD 1500 is pure
speculation, so I need to purge my database of most
of mine.

I am finding whole branches of dubious info, and
having backed up the total database and created one
that is purged to work on, I need to know if there is
a way to delete a whole line, as in choosing a
patriarch born about 1500 and then deleting all of
the related ancestors to both parents.

Laura Velez



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[LegacyUG] Advanced Source Citation

2006-11-06 Thread Ruth Nerud
I stupidly used the Advanced Source Citation feature without understanding 
what I was doing. I now have thousands of entries of a source citation that 
should not be there. Is there any way I can remove this Source Citation 
without having to go through each person and deleting them? Kind of the 
reverse of the Advanced Source Citation instructions?


Thanks.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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[LegacyUG] scources and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread naomah
If this comes through twice, my apologies.  I sent it originally at  
about 11:30 am and it still has not come through so I thought I would  
give it another shot.




I am really trying to site scources for my research this time.

If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's  
birthdates, etc. would I be

considered a Primary Source?

I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.
Are these Primary Sources?

Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too.  I do Family  
Group sheets for
most if not all.  I do not do the Pedigree charts for all.  Should I?   
Maybe print them

out on as needed/wanted?

Thank you in advance.

Naomi Black




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[LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It has been called to my attention by a member that
my emails are coming through in duplicates ... I am
not receiving my messages that way. Is anyone getting
them?

Occasionally Yahoo does send me duplicate messages
through other groups, but I've never seen my messages
come through that way.

Laura



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[LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It has been called to my attention by a member that
my emails are coming through in duplicates ... I am
not receiving my messages that way. Is anyone getting
them?

Occasionally Yahoo does send me duplicate messages
through other groups, but I've never seen my messages
come through that way.

Laura



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RE: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

2006-11-06 Thread Christopher O'Malley
I am receiving your e-mails but not as duplicates.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, 06 November 2006 12:56
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Coming through twice?

It has been called to my attention by a member that
my emails are coming through in duplicates ... I am
not receiving my messages that way. Is anyone getting
them?

Occasionally Yahoo does send me duplicate messages
through other groups, but I've never seen my messages
come through that way.

Laura



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RE: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread ronald ferguson

Leo,

Try using Tools>Set Relationships after ensuring that the correct start 
person is highlighted. There is a problem with the Relationship Calculator 
at present which I understand is sorted in the next update. I haven't found 
that it affects the display though.


Ron Ferguson



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From: "leo macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship display window
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:15:41 -0400

In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is a 
small window that usually displays the relationship of the person that you 
are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 6.0.0.110, 
I was adding some children to a family who share the same 4th great 
grandfather as myself but the display window does not show the 
relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread Alice L McVearry
David,
Thank you for trying to figure this out for us.  The trouble with your
theory of how this all came about is that the word "Unsubscribe" was never
used in the subject line.  The subject of the original poster's email, to
which both Lloyd and I responded by hitting Reply, was "Please
Help.Important." -- Alice


> [Original Message]
> From: David S Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 11/6/2006 11:27:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
>
> I think after all of these e-mails, I think I now understand what all this
> is about.  Someone please tell me if this is right.
>
> 1.  Occasionally people send messages to the User Group asking how they
can
> 'avoid getting' all the e-mail from the user group.
>
> 2.  The answer is to send an e-mail back to the user group with the word
> 'unsubscribe' in the subject box.
>
> 3.  If people offer this advice (given in 2.) to people who want to know
how
> to unsubscribe (those in 1.), but in replying use the word 'unsubscribe'
in
> the subject box, in some shape or form, they will find themselves
> unsubscribed too.
>
> The way I understand it is that Lloyd, in offering good advice to those
who
> wish to unsubscribe has found himself unsubscribed because of using the
word
> 'unsubscribe' somewhere in the subject box.
>
> Do I have it, or not?
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Brian/Support
> Sent: 06 November 2006 15:00
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup
>
>
> Lloyd and others,
>
> Our old mailing list software would only accept unsubscribe requests via 
> our web page. Our new software will accept messages to the list with 
> unsubscribe in the subject line also. For those who replied to a message 
> with unsubscribe in the subject that might explain why you unexpectedly 
> got a confirmation email that you were now unsubscribed from the list.
>
> I just successfully subscribed to the list from my private email account 
> by sending a message to LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com and got 
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>
> I will contact the web master and the mailing list coordinator to amend 
> the web page and the unsubscribe instructions included in each user 
> group message.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  
> > In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > In case  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday  I  
> > replied to an e-mail 
> > wanting to know how to stop getting mail from  LUG. For  that, I
received
> an 
> > e-mail from LUG that I had been  unsubscribed from the list.  This
e-mail
> is 
> > to 
> > let the List Managers  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am
deleting
> my 
> > Legacy data  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I
like 
> > Legacy  
> > but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  
booted
>
> > off 
> > for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this  list or 
the 
> > software.
> > Lloyd
>
>
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[LegacyUG] primary scource and pedigree charts

2006-11-06 Thread naomah

I am really trying to site scources for my research this time.

If it is something that I know first hand i.e. my children's  
birthdates, etc. would I be considered a Primary Source?


I have paper proof for many of the events i.e. birth certificates, etc.
Are these Primary Sources?

Even though I use Legacy I have everything on paper too.  I do Family  
Group sheets for most if not all.  I do not do the Pedigree charts for  
all.  Should I?  Maybe print them out on as needed/wanted?


Thank you in advance.

Naomi Black


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[LegacyUG] Relationship display window

2006-11-06 Thread leo macdonald
In between the parents name window and the childs name window there is a 
small window that usually displays the relationship of the person that you 
are entering to a pre-determined individual, say yourself.
In my program, which is the latest up to date version of Legacy 6.0.0.110, I 
was adding some children to a family who share the same 4th great 
grandfather as myself but the display window does not show the relationship.
When I use the relationship calculator it shows that we are half - 5th 
cousins.

Why does this not show up in the window, is this normal or is it a bug?
Leo




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RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Help file documents a method of importing one's
Legacy data file directly into Clooz which supposedly
links Clooz directly to Legacy. Adding a person to
Clooz will add the person to Legacy (and vice versa,
I suppose). Depending on how much the two programs
are linked, it could mean no double entry.

Laura


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On Behalf Of Carol
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

Laura,

I purchased the upgrade for Clooz and I like it much
better than the
original version.  However, I just don't see the need
to use it in my case -
it seems like too much duplication to enter the
census in both Clooz and in
Legacy as an event.  I use Geoff's MRIN filing
system, so I know where my
documents are - thus I'm having a hard time seeing
the need to use Clooz
(although I love the idea of the program).

Carol

> 
> Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely
about
> it, and since I have the original version, am
> thinking about upgrading to this new one.
> 
> Because of the digitizing of old census records,
> etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like
a
> great way to keep track of them.
> 
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Help file documents a method of importing one's
Legacy data file directly into Clooz which supposedly
links Clooz directly to Legacy. Adding a person to
Clooz will add the person to Legacy (and vice versa,
I suppose). Depending on how much the two programs
are linked, it could mean no double entry.

Laura


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Carol
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

Laura,

I purchased the upgrade for Clooz and I like it much
better than the
original version.  However, I just don't see the need
to use it in my case -
it seems like too much duplication to enter the
census in both Clooz and in
Legacy as an event.  I use Geoff's MRIN filing
system, so I know where my
documents are - thus I'm having a hard time seeing
the need to use Clooz
(although I love the idea of the program).

Carol

> 
> Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely
about
> it, and since I have the original version, am
> thinking about upgrading to this new one.
> 
> Because of the digitizing of old census records,
> etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like
a
> great way to keep track of them.
> 
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Laura,

Also see today's article at
http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2006/11/deleting_entire.html or
link to it from within Legacy Home.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:23 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

Over the years of collecting genealogy data, I have
discovered that I have lines that stretch back into
antiquity ... as in before year 1000 AD. Most of this
has come from the FamilySearch genealogy data, and
really isn't verified.

I have come to the conclusion that 99% of the
genealogical information before AD 1500 is pure
speculation, so I need to purge my database of most
of mine.

I am finding whole branches of dubious info, and
having backed up the total database and created one
that is purged to work on, I need to know if there is
a way to delete a whole line, as in choosing a
patriarch born about 1500 and then deleting all of
the related ancestors to both parents.

Laura Velez



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread David S Brookes
I think after all of these e-mails, I think I now understand what all this
is about.  Someone please tell me if this is right.

1.  Occasionally people send messages to the User Group asking how they can
'avoid getting' all the e-mail from the user group.

2.  The answer is to send an e-mail back to the user group with the word
'unsubscribe' in the subject box.

3.  If people offer this advice (given in 2.) to people who want to know how
to unsubscribe (those in 1.), but in replying use the word 'unsubscribe' in
the subject box, in some shape or form, they will find themselves
unsubscribed too.

The way I understand it is that Lloyd, in offering good advice to those who
wish to unsubscribe has found himself unsubscribed because of using the word
'unsubscribe' somewhere in the subject box.

Do I have it, or not?

Best wishes


David






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brian/Support
Sent: 06 November 2006 15:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


Lloyd and others,

Our old mailing list software would only accept unsubscribe requests via 
our web page. Our new software will accept messages to the list with 
unsubscribe in the subject line also. For those who replied to a message 
with unsubscribe in the subject that might explain why you unexpectedly 
got a confirmation email that you were now unsubscribed from the list.

I just successfully subscribed to the list from my private email account 
by sending a message to LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com and got 
this message:


  MailEnable: You have been added to the list 
(LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).


  To unsubscribe to this list, please send a message back to the
  list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject.


As you can see a message with unsubscribe as the subject will now 
unsubscribe you.

I will contact the web master and the mailing list coordinator to amend 
the web page and the unsubscribe instructions included in each user 
group message.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> In case  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday  I  
> replied to an e-mail 
> wanting to know how to stop getting mail from  LUG. For  that, I received
an 
> e-mail from LUG that I had been  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail
is 
> to 
> let the List Managers  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting
my 
> Legacy data  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like 
> Legacy  
> but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get   booted

> off 
> for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this  list or  the 
> software.
> Lloyd


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread Sherry/Support
Lloyd,
 
Obviously you're subscribed to both lists as I've seen the emails on both.

We do not intentionally remove anyone from the list unless there are serious
infractions of the Legacy Users Group Etiquette guidelines.

If you didn't unsubscribe yourself, someone else could have unsubscribed
you.  We've also had instances in the past where the mailing list had a
hiccup and a few subscribers were lost, but we haven't had any problems
since we switched servers and software.

I've also cc'd your email address in case you unsubscribed since you posted
this message.

Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


In a message dated 11/6/2006 7:18:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I replied to the same request for help and within minutes found
myself bumped off the list, just like yourself.  Very strange happenings.
-- Alice
 
Thank you for responding, Alice. I am waiting for an apology from
the management before I decide whether to unsubscribe myself.
Lloyd 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread David S Brookes
I think after all of these e-mails, I think I now understand what all this
is about.  Someone please tell me if this is right.

1.  Occasionally people send messages to the User Group asking how they can
'avoid getting' all the e-mail from the user group.

2.  The answer is to send an e-mail back to the user group with the word
'unsubscribe' in the subject box.

3.  If people offer this advice (given in 2.) to people who want to know how
to unsubscribe (those in 1.), but in replying use the word 'unsubscribe' in
the subject box, in some shape or form, they will find themselves
unsubscribed too.

The way I understand it is that Lloyd, in offering good advice to those who
wish to unsubscribe has found himself unsubscribed because of using the word
'unsubscribe' somewhere in the subject box.

Do I have it, or not?

Best wishes


David



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brian/Support
Sent: 06 November 2006 15:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


Lloyd and others,

Our old mailing list software would only accept unsubscribe requests via 
our web page. Our new software will accept messages to the list with 
unsubscribe in the subject line also. For those who replied to a message 
with unsubscribe in the subject that might explain why you unexpectedly 
got a confirmation email that you were now unsubscribed from the list.

I just successfully subscribed to the list from my private email account 
by sending a message to LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com and got 
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As you can see a message with unsubscribe as the subject will now 
unsubscribe you.

I will contact the web master and the mailing list coordinator to amend 
the web page and the unsubscribe instructions included in each user 
group message.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> In case  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday  I  
> replied to an e-mail 
> wanting to know how to stop getting mail from  LUG. For  that, I received
an 
> e-mail from LUG that I had been  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail
is 
> to 
> let the List Managers  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting
my 
> Legacy data  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like 
> Legacy  
> but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get   booted

> off 
> for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this  list or  the 
> software.
> Lloyd


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Re: [LegacyUG] Digest Version

2006-11-06 Thread Brian/Support

Mary,

The MailEnable software we now use for the list does not support a 
digest mode.


Brian
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Thanks.

archives wrote:
Is there a Digest version of this list?  Nothing on the website tells me how to go to 
that mode if there is.  I would rather get one digest than 35 separate messages. I 
tried sending an e-mail to the place you unsubscribe, but nothing changed.  Thanks. 
Mary Morris



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RE: [LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread Carol
Laura,

I purchased the upgrade for Clooz and I like it much better than the
original version.  However, I just don't see the need to use it in my case -
it seems like too much duplication to enter the census in both Clooz and in
Legacy as an event.  I use Geoff's MRIN filing system, so I know where my
documents are - thus I'm having a hard time seeing the need to use Clooz
(although I love the idea of the program).

Carol

> 
> Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely about
> it, and since I have the original version, am
> thinking about upgrading to this new one.
> 
> Because of the digitizing of old census records,
> etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like a
> great way to keep track of them.
> 
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

2006-11-06 Thread Brian/Support

Arnold,

As the bug coordinator for Legacy I have great reservations about asking 
the programmers to change Legacy to allow what you have requested. If 
you click on the Help button on the GEDCOM export screen the very first 
paragraph is a step by step procedure for exporting a GEDCOM.


Step two in the procedure is selecting the destination, using the 
customize button to change those selections is step 4. As Sherry 
explained in her response each destination format has a pre-defined list 
of items that are included. Selecting the Destination at step 2 sets 
those pre-defined items. Using the customize button as step 4 then lets 
you customize the items from the pre-defined defaults for the selected 
Destination format.


If we change Legacy so the exclusions on the Customize screen are kept 
from one destination format to another I foresee, right after we issue 
the amended version, another message from a user who says something like:


I customized my Legacy destination export to exclude item Y but when I 
decided I wanted to use the GEDCOM 5.5 list I expected that all the 
GEDCOM 5.5 items would be included. Instead I STILL lost my item Y data. 
That is a serious Bug. When I select GEDCOM 5.5 I want Legacy to give me 
ALL the GEDCOM 5.5 items without me having to revisit the customize 
screen and undoing any exclusions I made for another format.


I believe the way Legacy works now is the correct methodology and is 
properly explained in the Help File for the GEDCOM Export. Now that you 
understand how and why Legacy works the way it does I trust you will see 
why I do not intend to submit a bug report to the programmers on this issue.


Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

Arnold Sprague wrote:

At 10:13 AM 11/5/2006, you wrote:

Each option for producing the gedcom has its own selection of items to
export.  Set the Produce File For option first then change the customize
option.  When you change the main option, you're basically resetting what
you've done before.

I understand that.
I am only suggesting that the Legacy programmers *not* force a reset 
when changing the default "Produce File For" option. I belive this can 
be done easily. I see no reason that Legacy users should be blind sided 
by an unannounced forced reset only to see, in my case, all the excluded 
notes appear on the Internet.

There is no similar forced reset when the Character Set is changed.



In some cases, things that you've selected to exclude
are already excluded by the main option.


Thanks for using Legacy.

Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!

When replying to this message, please include all previous 
correspondence.

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold
Sprague
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] GEDCOM Export - A serious bug???

When I do a GEDCOM Export and (1) enter a change in the Customize 
option to
Exclude Regular Notes From Export and *then* (2) change the Produce 
File For

option from "Legacy" to "GEDCOM 5.5 Only," it turns out that my choice to
EXCLUDE REGULAR NOTES is blown away. This is repeatable. Regular Notes,
which were not supposed to appear, on the website do.

I would like for the Legacy programmers to let us choose the options 
in the

GEDCOM Export in any order we want.



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[LegacyUG] Digest Version

2006-11-06 Thread archives
Is there a Digest version of this list?  Nothing on the website tells me how to 
go to 
that mode if there is.  I would rather get one digest than 35 separate 
messages. I 
tried sending an e-mail to the place you unsubscribe, but nothing changed.  
Thanks. 
Mary Morris

--
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[LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely about
it, and since I have the original version, am
thinking about upgrading to this new one.

Because of the digitizing of old census records,
etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like a
great way to keep track of them.

Also, I am about to set up a filing system using
Geoffrey Rasmussen's MRIN system. However, I must
remember to not ever realign my RINs and MRINs in my
Legacy database again after I set up this system.

Laura




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread Brian/Support

Lloyd and others,

Our old mailing list software would only accept unsubscribe requests via 
our web page. Our new software will accept messages to the list with 
unsubscribe in the subject line also. For those who replied to a message 
with unsubscribe in the subject that might explain why you unexpectedly 
got a confirmation email that you were now unsubscribed from the list.


I just successfully subscribed to the list from my private email account 
by sending a message to LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com and got 
this message:



 MailEnable: You have been added to the list 
(LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com).



 To unsubscribe to this list, please send a message back to the
 list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject.


As you can see a message with unsubscribe as the subject will now 
unsubscribe you.


I will contact the web master and the mailing list coordinator to amend 
the web page and the unsubscribe instructions included in each user 
group message.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


In case  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday  I  
replied to an e-mail 
wanting to know how to stop getting mail from  LUG. For  that, I received an 
e-mail from LUG that I had been  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail is 
to 
let the List Managers  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my 
Legacy data  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like 
Legacy  
but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get   booted 
off 
for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this  list or  the 
software.

Lloyd



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RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Ron ... I sort of did a round about way of
doing my deletions. I particularly liked the way it
asked for confirmation before deleting family groups.
I feel quite good about my results.

I have an elderly uncle (b. 1918) on my father's side
who is still alive and kicking, and sharp as a tack.
He did quite a bit of genealogy on that side of the
family years ago, but stopped about 20 years ago. I
just sent him a cascade pedigree chart of that side
of the family, which included all of the Kings and
Queens dubiously related to our family. I cannot wait
to hear his reaction.

BTW, I saved a copy of the full database, with all of
the pre 1500 people.

Laura


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of
tree

Laura,

Use "Advanced Deleting".  You will see it under Tools
and also in the Name 
List under Options.  The Name List is also used to
display results of a 
search.

Once in the Advanced Deleting tool, you can remove
groups on a specified tag 
or those included in the last search results.  You
will also have the option 
to "Confirm Each Deletion".

If you have many to "prune" from your database, it
would be well to prepare 
a Focus Group of those that need to be removed.  Then
you can use the 
"Miscellaneous Searches" tab and click the "Focus
Group" radio button to 
have everyone in that group located.  Be sure to also
click the button 
labeled "Clear List before this search" so that other
search results will 
not be part of this selection.  With the Focus Group
selected, use Advanced 
Deleting to "Delete all individuals in the current
Search List".

=

By the way...I completely agree with your assessment
of data prior to 1500. 
Removing it will make your database smaller and more
meaningful.

Ron Taylor




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[LegacyUG] Clooz 2

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is anybody using Clooz 2? I am reading closely about
it, and since I have the original version, am
thinking about upgrading to this new one.

Because of the digitizing of old census records,
etc., I am acquiring quite a few, and it looks like a
great way to keep track of them.

Also, I am about to set up a filing system using
Geoffrey Rasmussen's MRIN system. However, I must
remember to not ever realign my RINs and MRINs in my
Legacy database again after I set up this system.

Laura




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RE: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Ron ... I sort of did a round about way of
doing my deletions. I particularly liked the way it
asked for confirmation before deleting family groups.
I feel quite good about my results.

I have an elderly uncle (b. 1918) on my father's side
who is still alive and kicking, and sharp as a tack.
He did quite a bit of genealogy on that side of the
family years ago, but stopped about 20 years ago. I
just sent him a cascade pedigree chart of that side
of the family, which included all of the Kings and
Queens dubiously related to our family. I cannot wait
to hear his reaction.

BTW, I saved a copy of the full database, with all of
the pre 1500 people.

Laura


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:56 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of
tree

Laura,

Use "Advanced Deleting".  You will see it under Tools
and also in the Name 
List under Options.  The Name List is also used to
display results of a 
search.

Once in the Advanced Deleting tool, you can remove
groups on a specified tag 
or those included in the last search results.  You
will also have the option 
to "Confirm Each Deletion".

If you have many to "prune" from your database, it
would be well to prepare 
a Focus Group of those that need to be removed.  Then
you can use the 
"Miscellaneous Searches" tab and click the "Focus
Group" radio button to 
have everyone in that group located.  Be sure to also
click the button 
labeled "Clear List before this search" so that other
search results will 
not be part of this selection.  With the Focus Group
selected, use Advanced 
Deleting to "Delete all individuals in the current
Search List".

=

By the way...I completely agree with your assessment
of data prior to 1500. 
Removing it will make your database smaller and more
meaningful.

Ron Taylor




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[LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] unsubscribe

2006-11-06 Thread Brian Kelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread LloydLHite31




In a message dated 11/6/2006 9:07:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hello Lloyd,What is you are asking for?  I read your 
  e-mail yesterday that was written in very large bold letters saying you were 
  receiving too much mail and wanted off the list. You cannot be on the list and 
  off the list at the same time.
   
  Below is a copy of the e-mail that I replied to. Anybody reading the 
  e-mail would see that I was replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
  In a message dated 11/5/2006 4:13:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Dear Sir/Madam,
 
I don't want any more message from your 
group.
 
I joined your group by mistake.
 
What can I do to block those 
  emails.
  
  
  To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
  I pasted the above unsubscribe notice to the person's e-mail to show them 
  where to go to unsubscribe.

 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread tcrussell
Hello Lloyd,

What is you are asking for?  I read your e-mail yesterday that was written in 
very large bold letters saying you were receiving too much mail and wanted off 
the list. You cannot be on the list and off the list at the same time.

Perhaps you need to be more specific about your request.  Do you want to be on 
the list, but know how to unsubscribe, yet stay subscribed?

I have been on the LUG list for a long time.  Sometimes I subscribe for a bit, 
receive too many posts, then I unsubscribe.  And, of course, I then miss all 
the wonderful suggestions and I resubscribe.  Now I have been subscribed for 
perhaps 6 months or longer.  I do not have time to read each post, so, I read 
only the messages that have a subject line of interest to me.  I delete the 
rest.

On a few ocassions I have posted a query, a how do I do this  - and, I do not 
receive a reply when I think I should have one.  I just wait a week or so an 
repost, noting that I have not yet received a reply.  It just depends on who is 
reading the messages.  I suspect that a lot of the subscribers will have just 
deleted your subject line since we all saw your post yesterday.  I read it that 
you did NOT wish to be on the mailing list. What is it you want? On? Off? There 
is no middle road.

There is no reason at all to threaten to remove the very BEST user friendly 
genealogy program with a user friendly mailing list.  

But, please be exact in what you are asking.  It appeared to me that you 
certainly did want OFF the list.  This morning I was so surprised to see your 
complaining post.  Yes, it is difficult sometimes to communicate via the 
written word on the Internet, but give us another try.

Just another LUG subscriber,

C.N. Russell
in Traverse City, Michigan, USA

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> In case  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday  I  
> replied to an e-mail 
> wanting to know how to stop getting mail from  LUG. For  that, I received an 
> e-mail from LUG that I had been  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail is 
> to 
> let the List Managers  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my 
> Legacy data  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like 
> Legacy  
> but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get   booted 
> off 
> for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this  list or  the 
> software.
> Lloyd
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
> 
> To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
> 
> For online technical support, please visit 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Deleting whole brances of tree

2006-11-06 Thread Ron Taylor

Laura,

Use "Advanced Deleting".  You will see it under Tools and also in the Name 
List under Options.  The Name List is also used to display results of a 
search.


Once in the Advanced Deleting tool, you can remove groups on a specified tag 
or those included in the last search results.  You will also have the option 
to "Confirm Each Deletion".


If you have many to "prune" from your database, it would be well to prepare 
a Focus Group of those that need to be removed.  Then you can use the 
"Miscellaneous Searches" tab and click the "Focus Group" radio button to 
have everyone in that group located.  Be sure to also click the button 
labeled "Clear List before this search" so that other search results will 
not be part of this selection.  With the Focus Group selected, use Advanced 
Deleting to "Delete all individuals in the current Search List".


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By the way...I completely agree with your assessment of data prior to 1500. 
Removing it will make your database smaller and more meaningful.


Ron Taylor




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread LloydLHite31




In a message dated 11/6/2006 7:18:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I replied to the same request for help and within minutes found myself 
  bumped off the list, just like yourself.  Very strange happenings.  
  -- Alice
   
  Thank you for responding, Alice. I am waiting for an apology from the 
  management before I decide whether to unsubscribe myself.
  Lloyd 

 



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread Alice L McVearry



Hello Lloyd,
 
I replied to the same request for help and within minutes found myself bumped off the list, just like yourself.  Very strange happenings.  -- Alice

 

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 11/6/2006 6:20:22 AM 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday I  replied to an e-mail wanting to know how to stop getting mail from LUG. For  that, I received an e-mail from LUG that I had been unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail is to let the List Managers know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my Legacy data from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like Legacy but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  booted off for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this list or  the software.Lloyd

 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread Rodney Hall



Lloyd,
 
It sounds as though you wanted to 
unsubscribe ("...to stop getting mail from 
LUG" )  and someone has done this for you. I don't think there would 
have been any ulterior motive!
If you don't want to receive mail 
from LUG, you can only 
unsubscribe.
Regards
 


Rodney HALL Heywood, 
LancashireSuaviter sed fortiterAgreeably but 
powerfully [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://rmhh.co.uk/http://rmhh.org.uk/~


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 06 November 2006 11:20To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSubject: [LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] 
Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup


In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case 
  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday 
  I  replied to an e-mail wanting to know how to stop getting mail from 
  LUG. For  that, I received an e-mail from LUG that I had been 
  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail is to let the List Managers 
  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my Legacy data 
  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like Legacy 
  but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  
  booted off for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this 
  list or  the software.Lloyd

 
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[LegacyUG] Re: [LEGACY] Got bumped off LegacyUserGroup

2006-11-06 Thread LloydLHite31




In a message dated 11/6/2006 6:01:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In case 
  I am already unsubscribed from LUG, I am sending this to 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  also. Yesterday 
  I  replied to an e-mail wanting to know how to stop getting mail from 
  LUG. For  that, I received an e-mail from LUG that I had been 
  unsubscribed from the list.  This e-mail is to let the List Managers 
  know that if I am unsubscribed, then I  am deleting my Legacy data 
  from my computer and start back to using RootsMagic.  I like Legacy 
  but, if I cannot get help from the list when I ask for it and get  
  booted off for replying to a request for help, then I do not need this 
  list or  the software.Lloyd

 



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