Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread ronald ferguson


Bruce,

I may be seriously misunderstanding your point but I maintain that there *is 
no* correlation between a marriage residence and an employment address.




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From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:14:23 -0700

Russ,
I am not using the house icons.
What I am attempting to do is to document EVERY address that my father
(&mother) lived at during their life and every job my father had and
to see how they correlate.  If I put the addresses as Residence Events
in the marriage and my father's employment as Employment Events with
his other individual events (which I have done up to now), there is no
correlation between the two during the marriage (and the marriage
Resident Events do not even appear in the individual report).

In order to get the correlation, it appears I must put ALL Residence
Events under my father with the rest of his Individual Events.
Thanks,
Bruce

On 4/16/07, R G Strong Genealogy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was
designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place 
not

the peoples address.

You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you 
put

their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an
address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate
address.

To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the
"Residence" event definition instead.

Russ

- Original Message -
From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events


Bruce
..
An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage 
event
screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen 
(nor

on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
sequence of Events in a person's life.
..

Gary


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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> Marriage Event.
>
> The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
Europe
> and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
London.
> I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
hotels
> miles away from their families.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
> >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> >
> >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> >
> >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> >
> >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> >
> >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bruce Jones


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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Elsie Saar

Jon, I agree but it works for me.
Elsie Scharpf Saar

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Elsie,
I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must admit this is a 
rather

labor intensive and tedious  job.

Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish that Legacy 
would
display ALL the relationships between the source person and the 
other  person.  For
example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times and to his 
father 5
times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one relationship and 
where there are
multiple relationships, I still don't understand what  relationship 
Legacy

chooses to select.

If the programmers do add a  function to display on reports the 
relationships
of each person to the source  person (and I hope they do), I hope 
Legacy will
print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the option to do 
so.


Jon Raymond
St Paul Park, MN




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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Jackie King

Mel -

I have found one thing I tend to put under marriage events in more 
recent marriages  - say 1880s and later - that many times really define 
some family relationships and that's hometown newspaper clippings of 
bridal showers. There is nothing like a clipping that says shower hosted 
by Miss so-and-so, sister of the groom-to-be. Lunch was served by Mrs. 
so-and-so, aunt of the bride-to-be and the giftbook maintained by Miss 
so-and-so, niece of the bride-to-be.


Similarly the wedding party is many times defined in a wedding story in 
the local newspaper and other relatives may be mentioned by relationship 
in the list of those who attended the reception. The wedding events 
listing is a perfect place to store the full clip.


Best wishes,
Jackie King,

Mel Morris wrote:

I don't tend to use marriage events at all really. I can't think of much to
put there except perhaps 'reception held at..." or honeymooned at "..." or
witnessed 
An employment is an individual event - as it relates to an individual not a

pair.

Regards
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Jones
Sent: April 16, 2007 3:25 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.

I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.

Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?

Thanks,
Bruce Jones


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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Cathy
Note that in the Relationship Calculator under Options > Limit to ... 
you can set how many common ancestors to look for. I have no idea how 
it works as I don't have my lines back to Charlemagne. I just have a 
few marriages between different branches of the family that give 
multiple relationships.


Cathy

At 10:11 AM 17/04/2007, you wrote:


Define all. My son has Charlemange as an ancestor
through over 1000 different paths. how many combos
should be displayed. How to decide which paths are the
more important to show. These are judgement calls.
Rich
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Elsie,
> I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must
> admit this is a rather
> labor intensive and tedious  job.
>
> Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish
> that Legacy  would
> display ALL the relationships between the source
> person and the other  person.  For
> example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times
> and to his  father 5
> times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one
> relationship and  where there are
> multiple relationships, I still don't understand
> what  relationship Legacy
> chooses to select.
>
> If the programmers do add a  function to display on
> reports the relationships
> of each person to the source  person (and I hope
> they do), I hope Legacy will
> print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the
> option to do so.
>
> Jon Raymond
> St Paul Park, MN




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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Cathy

Hi Jon,

You can see all the relationships between one person and another by 
using the Relationship Calculator Tool


Only one of the relationships is shown on Family View but the others 
can be shown in the Tool. From it all relationships can be charted.


Cathy

At 08:13 AM 17/04/2007, you wrote:


Elsie,
I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must admit this is a rather
labor intensive and tedious  job.

Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish that Legacy  would
display ALL the relationships between the source person and the 
other  person.  For

example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times and to his  father 5
times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one relationship 
and  where there are

multiple relationships, I still don't understand what  relationship Legacy
chooses to select.

If the programmers do add a  function to display on reports the relationships
of each person to the source  person (and I hope they do), I hope Legacy will
print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the option to do so.

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park, MN




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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart LDS Ordinance Abbreviations

2007-04-16 Thread Kate
Thanks for the correction and explanation.  I misunderstood what was
happening in my database.  Sorry for the confusion to everyone.

 

 

Kate Smith Redford

Salem, Oregon, USA

 

 

503-910-6055 (cell phone)

503-304-9226

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart LDS Ordinance Abbreviations

 

Kate,

 

What you explained isn't exactly true. If all the children been sealed to be
sealed to their parents (or if they have all been submitted and are waiting
to be sealed) a capital C appears on the Pedigree Chart with the parenst
information.  If some, but not all of the children are not sealed, a lower
case c appears. The lower case c indicates no sealing or submission exists
for at least one of the parent's children.

 

This same upper case/lower case convention applies to sealling to spouses.
For example, If a man was married three times but sealed to only one spouse,
then there would be a lower case s. When he is sealed to all spouses and/or
the work has been submitted and is waiting to be performed for the remaining
two spouses, then there is an upper case S.

 

Jim Terry
Technical Support
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com  
(425) 788-0932

 

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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:12 PM
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The capital letters indicate that the ordinance work has been done.  The
lower case letters indicate that the individual's name has been submitted
and cleared for the work but the work has not been done. 

 

 

 

Kate Smith Redford

Salem, Oregon, USA

 

 

503-910-6055 (cell phone)

503-304-9226

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<>

 

Childrens ordinances. If all are complete, the C is capital.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Define all. My son has Charlemange as an ancestor
through over 1000 different paths. how many combos
should be displayed. How to decide which paths are the
more important to show. These are judgement calls. 
Rich
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Elsie,
> I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must
> admit this is a rather 
> labor intensive and tedious  job.
> 
> Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish
> that Legacy  would 
> display ALL the relationships between the source
> person and the other  person.  For 
> example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times
> and to his  father 5 
> times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one
> relationship and  where there are 
> multiple relationships, I still don't understand
> what  relationship Legacy 
> chooses to select.
> 
> If the programmers do add a  function to display on
> reports the relationships 
> of each person to the source  person (and I hope
> they do), I hope Legacy will 
> print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the
> option to do so.
> 
> Jon Raymond
> St Paul Park, MN  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> free at http://www.aol.com.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Russ
We're not talking about current residence here.  We're talking about an
historical account of residences throughout one's life.
Gary
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R G Strong Genealogy
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:57 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was
> designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place
not
> the peoples address.
> 
> You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you
put
> their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an
> address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate
> address.
> 
> To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the
> "Residence" event definition instead.
> 
> Russ
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> 
> Bruce
> ..
> An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage
event
> screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen
(nor
> on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
> available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
> sequence of Events in a person's life.
> ..
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> > Marriage Event.
> >
> > The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> > always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
> Europe
> > and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
> London.
> > I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
> hotels
> > miles away from their families.
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> > >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> > >
> > >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> > >
> > >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> > >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> > >
> > >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> > >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> > >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> > >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> > >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> > >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> > >
> > >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> > >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Bruce Jones
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Bruce Jones

Russ,
I am not using the house icons.
What I am attempting to do is to document EVERY address that my father
(&mother) lived at during their life and every job my father had and
to see how they correlate.  If I put the addresses as Residence Events
in the marriage and my father's employment as Employment Events with
his other individual events (which I have done up to now), there is no
correlation between the two during the marriage (and the marriage
Resident Events do not even appear in the individual report).

In order to get the correlation, it appears I must put ALL Residence
Events under my father with the rest of his Individual Events.
Thanks,
Bruce

On 4/16/07, R G Strong Genealogy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was
designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place not
the peoples address.

You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you put
their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an
address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate
address.

To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the
"Residence" event definition instead.

Russ

- Original Message -
From: "Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events


Bruce
..
An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage event
screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor
on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
sequence of Events in a person's life.
..

Gary


> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> Marriage Event.
>
> The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
Europe
> and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
London.
> I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
hotels
> miles away from their families.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
>
> >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> >
> >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> >
> >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> >
> >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> >
> >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bruce Jones



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread JRAYMOND651
CG,
You make a valid point.  My  preference would be that the reports show the 
relationships between the root  person of the report(s) and the other persons 
in 
the report.

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St Paul Park, MN  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread R G Strong Genealogy
Be advised that the address house icon on the marriage event screen was 
designed to be used to record the address where the marriage took place not 
the peoples address.


You should still use the address Icon on the individual's screen. If you put 
their current address in each individual's screen then when you do an 
address list report you should check the option to not print duplicate 
address.


To show address of couple in the marriage event screen one would use the 
"Residence" event definition instead.


Russ

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:00 AM
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Bruce
..
An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage event
screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor
on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
sequence of Events in a person's life.
..

Gary



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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events


Bruce,

I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
Marriage Event.

The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over

Europe

and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in

London.

I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in

hotels

miles away from their families.

Ron Ferguson


>From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
>Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
>
>I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
>
>I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
>married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
>
>Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
>marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
>I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
>would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
>after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
>Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
>
>How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
>Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
>
>Thanks,
>Bruce Jones




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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread C.G. Ouimet

I have a real problem with hard-coding relationship info into facts/events
in that it makes this portion of the data very much single person centric.
These facts/events become problematic when the database is shared with
others.

First, there are hard facts and what I call relative facts.

John married Mary. Hard fact.

John is Mary's spouse. Hard Fact.

Henry is John's grandson. Hard fact.

Peter is John's 2nd cousin twice removed. Relative fact - it depends on the
connection.

Second, enabling the displaying of relationships in reports raises another
question. Should this feature display relationships vs the root person of
the database or vs the root person of the report. They are not necessarily
the same. For this to be error-proof, it would have to be vs the root person
of the report.


 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

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Elsie,
I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must admit this is a rather
labor intensive and tedious  job.

Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish that Legacy  would
display ALL the relationships between the source person and the other
person.  For example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times and to his
father 5 times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one relationship and
where there are multiple relationships, I still don't understand what
relationship Legacy chooses to select.

If the programmers do add a  function to display on reports the
relationships of each person to the source  person (and I hope they do), I
hope Legacy will print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the option
to do so.

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park, MN  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart LDS Ordinance Abbreviations

2007-04-16 Thread Jim Terry
Kate,

What you explained isn't exactly true. If all the children been sealed to be 
sealed to their parents (or if they have all been submitted and are waiting to 
be sealed) a capital C appears on the Pedigree Chart with the parenst 
information.  If some, but not all of the children are not sealed, a lower case 
c appears. The lower case c indicates no sealing or submission exists for at 
least one of the parent's children.

This same upper case/lower case convention applies to sealling to spouses. For 
example, If a man was married three times but sealed to only one spouse, then 
there would be a lower case s. When he is sealed to all spouses and/or the work 
has been submitted and is waiting to be performed for the remaining two 
spouses, then there is an upper case S.

Jim Terry
Technical Support
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The capital letters indicate that the ordinance work has been done.  The 
lower case letters indicate that the individual’s name has been submitted and 
cleared for the work but the work has not been done. 

 

 

 

Kate Smith Redford

Salem, Oregon, USA

 

 

503-910-6055 (cell phone)

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Childrens ordinances. If all are complete, the C is capital.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread JRAYMOND651
Elsie,
I see what you are trying to  accomplish, but must admit this is a rather 
labor intensive and tedious  job.

Once the "set relationship" function is used, I wish that Legacy  would 
display ALL the relationships between the source person and the other  person.  
For 
example, my nephew is related to his mother 3 times and to his  father 5 
times!  Unfortunately, Legacy only displays one relationship and  where there 
are 
multiple relationships, I still don't understand what  relationship Legacy 
chooses to select.

If the programmers do add a  function to display on reports the relationships 
of each person to the source  person (and I hope they do), I hope Legacy will 
print ALL the relationships or  at least give us the option to do so.

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park, MN  




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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Jennifer Crockett
What a good idea, Mary. Thanks for sharing.

Jennifer


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

I'm not certain I'm following this thread correctly. My method of seeing
immediately how or if someone is related to me in my database is by
using a column in the Index to show the relationship to me, if any. Of
course, it will only display the relationship for the focus person set
to display relationships but it's an immediate way to see if I'm related
to a given person in my database.
 
Mary



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RE: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

2007-04-16 Thread Saba K
I noticed that shortcoming of Legacy and have made a suggestion to enable 
adding all available photographs.


I don't know if a feature bubbles up to the top of the list if multiple 
people request the same feature. I hope if someone from the Product team is 
watching this list.



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Subject: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:24:14 -0600

I am a recent convert to Legacy and just imported my database. Is there a
way to disable the “Preferred Picture” functionality? For example, I made
JPEG maps of places where my ancestors were born, lived, died, etc., and
upon import into Legacy, some of these maps are the default “Preferred
Picture” for some of my ancestors for whom I do not have a picture. In 
these

cases, I would prefer to have the “Preferred Picture” not be these maps.

Secondly, just to confirm the functionality of the program, when I created
the web pages for my web site, I noticed that Legacy only uses the
“Preferred Picture” and excludes all other images. Is this correct? If so, 
I
hope this is one of the major enhancements for the program. I have scores 
of

old photographs I would like to include on my site. If I am wrong, please
let me know.

Thanks for the help.

Greg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
I'm not certain I'm following this thread correctly. My method of seeing 
immediately how or if someone is related to me in my database is by using a 
column in the Index to show the relationship to me, if any. Of course, it will 
only display the relationship for the focus person set to display relationships 
but it's an immediate way to see if I'm related to a given person in my 
database.

Mary
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  From: M. Brenzel 
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  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement


  Thank you, Elsie.  Once again, someone using this flexible tool to suit their 
needs!

   

  Mary 

   

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  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  Sure, Mary: 

   

  Event/Fact: Relationship

  Desc/Place/Notes:  fourth cousin once removed to Elsie Scharpf 

  for hubby: fourth cousin to Fred Saar

  for a relative I meet online: fourth cousin to _  __ (enter name)

   

  I have also changed the Family view to show the Relationship under the buried 
field. That way, I can see at a glance if someone is related and to whom. Of 
course, this will all be in error if someone inherits my database but then 
he/she can do with it whatever he/she wants. Right now it's my tool to use how 
it best suits me.

   

  Elsie 

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From: M. Brenzel 

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

 

Elsie,

 

Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?

 

Mary

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
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That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter it 
for all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to my husband. 
If I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to our lines. I would 
love to be able to automatically tract relationships for my husband and myself 
at the same time. I put that request in.

Elsie

 

 

Genealogy research
American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer 

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  From: Mel Morris 

  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM

  Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider 
adding the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree charts. I 
send a lot of people to check out my web page and they find who our common link 
is via the index and then have the devil's own job connecting me to the them! 
If all people on my tree were identified as to my relationship to them, it 
would be so much more clear - and as the relationships are already showing up 
in the database anyway, I can't see that as being very hard to program in.

   

  Any chance?

   

  Regards

  Mel Morris

  Burlington, Ontario

   

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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Mel Morris
I don't tend to use marriage events at all really. I can't think of much to
put there except perhaps 'reception held at..." or honeymooned at "..." or
witnessed 
An employment is an individual event - as it relates to an individual not a
pair.

Regards
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.

I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.

Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?

Thanks,
Bruce Jones


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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Elsie Saar
On your grandfather's Individual's Information, I would enter Relationship: 
maternal grandfather to Robert Carneal.
On your second cousin's Indiv. Info, enter Relationship: maternal second cousin 
to Robert Carneal.
I don't enter anything for date.

I also have another event called Common Relative. If I connect with a new 
living cousin, I will enter the event Common Relative for the grandparent that 
we both share. Say John Smith and I both share William Smith as a 
great-grandfather. On William Smith's Indiv. Info, I enter Common Relative: 
with John Smith. Otherwise I forget how these new cousins relative to me.

Hope it's clearer now. It's just my method.
Elsie



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Carneal 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement


  Now you have me interested. Suppose I enter relationships to myself, that of 
my Ggrandfather, and also that of my second cousin? Could you tell me if the 
following is correct?

   

  Event: Precise Relationship

  Description:  is a maternal Ggranduncle to Robert.

  Date:  is a brother to Will.

  Place:  is a cousin to John of Dayton.

   

  Is that what you are suggesting?

   

  Thanks.


  Robert

   

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  Sent: 2007-04-16 13:46
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  Sure, Mary: 

   

  Event/Fact: Relationship

  Desc/Place/Notes:  fourth cousin once removed to Elsie Scharpf 

  for hubby: fourth cousin to Fred Saar

  for a relative I meet online: fourth cousin to _  __ (enter name)

   

  I have also changed the Family view to show the Relationship under the buried 
field. That way, I can see at a glance if someone is related and to whom. Of 
course, this will all be in error if someone inherits my database but then 
he/she can do with it whatever he/she wants. Right now it's my tool to use how 
it best suits me.

   

  Elsie 

  - Original Message - 


  From: M. Brenzel 

  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM

  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  Elsie,

   

  Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?

   

  Mary

   

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter it for 
all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to my husband. If 
I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to our lines. I would 
love to be able to automatically tract relationships for my husband and myself 
at the same time. I put that request in.

  Elsie

   

   

  Genealogy research
  American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
  German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer 

  - Original Message - 


  From: Mel Morris 

  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM

  Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider adding 
the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree charts. I send a 
lot of people to check out my web page and they find who our common link is via 
the index and then have the devil's own job connecting me to the them! If all 
people on my tree were identified as to my relationship to them, it would be so 
much more clear - and as the relationships are already showing up in the 
database anyway, I can't see that as being very hard to program in.

   

  Any chance?

   

  Regards

  Mel Morris

  Burlington, Ontario 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Ruth Nerud
This is what the Events look like for my Dad:

Noted events in his life were:

.  St. Paul City Directory: 1928. John was a laborer and continued to own his 
home at 735 Burr Street. 


.  St. Paul City Directory: 1929. John was a laborer at Home Comfort Company, a 
company that made bread cabinets at 881 Newcomb. 



.  St. Paul City Directory: 1930. John was a cabinetmaker at Daniel Pfremmen.

.  Relationship to Ann Perri (maternal): 4th Cousin Twice Removed. 

.  Relationship to Ann Perri (paternal): 4th Cousin Twice Removed.

.  Relationship to Ruth (Sconza Testa) Nerud (paternal): Father. 



I have an Event/Fact St. Paul City Directory with a date of 1928, another with 
1929, etc. Then I have an Event/Fact Relationship to Ann Perri (maternal), 
another Relationship to Ann Perri (Paternal), and another Relationship to Ruth 
(Sconza Testa) Nerud (paternal). You can see that I am related to Ann Perri's 
father and mother with the same relationship because they themselves are 
related, and my relationship to my father is Father.



Does this help?



Ruth





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[LegacyUG] About Pictures

2007-04-16 Thread Marielle Stowe
I presume that some of the listers may have just acquired a Vista program - 
I am really wondering how you are handling the pictures with the Windows' 
Photo Gallery.


Presently I am trying to down a driver for our Epson 1250 scanner and I am 
so afraid to mess up the "default location" and the "Location of Temp Files" 
which it took me so long to set up, that I have not finished downloading the 
driver for my scanner.. I know the driver question is out of context.


This may sound like a very basic problem to most of you, but to me, right 
now, it is an important question LOL


Sherry has helped me with the new Vista program and for that I am very 
grateful.


I really appreciate all the support that we get from the LegacyUserGroup.

Marielle Stowe
Toronto 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread M. Brenzel
Thank you, Elsie.  Once again, someone using this flexible tool to suit
their needs!
 
Mary 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie
Saar
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
Sure, Mary: 
 
Event/Fact: Relationship
Desc/Place/Notes:  fourth cousin once removed to Elsie Scharpf 
for hubby: fourth cousin to Fred Saar
for a relative I meet online: fourth cousin to _  __ (enter
name)
 
I have also changed the Family view to show the Relationship under the
buried field. That way, I can see at a glance if someone is related and
to whom. Of course, this will all be in error if someone inherits my
database but then he/she can do with it whatever he/she wants. Right now
it's my tool to use how it best suits me.
 
Elsie 
- Original Message - 
From: M. Brenzel   
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
Elsie,
 
Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?
 
Mary
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie
Saar
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter
it for all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to
my husband. If I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to
our lines. I would love to be able to automatically tract relationships
for my husband and myself at the same time. I put that request in.
Elsie
 
 
Genealogy research
American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer 
- Original Message - 
From: Mel Morris   
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider
adding the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree
charts. I send a lot of people to check out my web page and they find
who our common link is via the index and then have the devil's own job
connecting me to the them! If all people on my tree were identified as
to my relationship to them, it would be so much more clear - and as the
relationships are already showing up in the database anyway, I can't see
that as being very hard to program in.
 
Any chance?
 
Regards
Mel Morris
Burlington, Ontario
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Carneal
So instead of using fields, you just plain outright insert the sentence you
want to use? There has to be a zillion ways people are related to each
other. I can just see someone related to me as:

The 17th married to family cousin of Jack’s wife, whose brother is my wife’s
3rd cousin twice removed.  (whew)

If I do this, I’’ have to think about it first so I can keep everyone’s
relationship simple. Definitely something to think about… Thanks!

Robert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ruth Nerud
Sent: 2007-04-16 15:37
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

Not quite - if I highlight the relationship and press Control C to copy it
and then go to the Events Tab and in the event called Relationship to Ruth
(for instance) and press Control V to paste, it will come up something like
1st Cousin Twice Removed.

Ruth
- Original Message -
From: Robert Carneal 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

Now you have me interested. Suppose I enter relationships to myself, that of
my Ggrandfather, and also that of my second cousin? Could you tell me if the
following is correct?

Event: Precise Relationship
Description:  is a maternal Ggranduncle to Robert.
Date:  is a brother to Will.
Place:  is a cousin to John of Dayton.

Is that what you are suggesting?

Thanks.

Robert
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Ruth Nerud
Not quite - if I highlight the relationship and press Control C to copy it and 
then go to the Events Tab and in the event called Relationship to Ruth (for 
instance) and press Control V to paste, it will come up something like 1st 
Cousin Twice Removed.

Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Carneal 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:06 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement


  Now you have me interested. Suppose I enter relationships to myself, that of 
my Ggrandfather, and also that of my second cousin? Could you tell me if the 
following is correct?

   

  Event: Precise Relationship

  Description:  is a maternal Ggranduncle to Robert.

  Date:  is a brother to Will.

  Place:  is a cousin to John of Dayton.

   

  Is that what you are suggesting?

   

  Thanks.


  Robert



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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Carneal
Now you have me interested. Suppose I enter relationships to myself, that of
my Ggrandfather, and also that of my second cousin? Could you tell me if the
following is correct?

Event: Precise Relationship
Description:  is a maternal Ggranduncle to Robert.
Date:  is a brother to Will.
Place:  is a cousin to John of Dayton.

Is that what you are suggesting?

Thanks.

Robert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Elsie Saar
Sent: 2007-04-16 13:46
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

Sure, Mary:

Event/Fact: Relationship
Desc/Place/Notes:  fourth cousin once removed to Elsie Scharpf
for hubby: fourth cousin to Fred Saar
for a relative I meet online: fourth cousin to _  __ (enter name)

I have also changed the Family view to show the Relationship under the
buried field. That way, I can see at a glance if someone is related and to
whom. Of course, this will all be in error if someone inherits my database
but then he/she can do with it whatever he/she wants. Right now it's my tool
to use how it best suits me.

Elsie
- Original Message -
From: M. Brenzel 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

Elsie,

Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?

Mary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter it
for all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to my
husband. If I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to our
lines. I would love to be able to automatically tract relationships for my
husband and myself at the same time. I put that request in.
Elsie


Genealogy research
American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer
- Original Message -
From: Mel Morris 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider adding
the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree charts. I
send a lot of people to check out my web page and they find who our common
link is via the index and then have the devil’s own job connecting me to the
them! If all people on my tree were identified as to my relationship to
them, it would be so much more clear – and as the relationships are already
showing up in the database anyway, I can’t see that as being very hard to
program in.

Any chance?

Regards
Mel Morris
Burlington, Ontario
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Ruth Nerud
This is how I identify Relationship as an Event:

First I Set Relationships under Tools
Then I do a Search for Relationships equal to Related
Then I set that list with Tag 1
I click on Name List
Search all Tagged 1
Under the Detail Tab I have customized my display to include Relationship 
I highlight the relationship designation and do a Control C
I go to Events tab and add a new Event with the name Relationship to (whoever, 
me for instance)
In the Description box I do a Control V to paste the relationship designation 
and click Save 
and the relationship prints as an Event

It's a long process but the only way I know to have relationship print. The one 
thing is I can add relationship to another person, for instance someone I'm 
doing research for in the same town I have information from in Italy. Then I do 
the relationships to that person and can see whether I am related to that 
person or anyone else in his/her family. That isn't going to happen if some day 
Relationship becomes a piece of data to print on relationship to a specific 
person. So I may have to always continue to do this long process - sometimes 
upwards of 6,000 people.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Susan Daily

Bruce,
I will tell you and the list how I do it, so people know there are many ways.

First off, my major reason for recording data like this is so I can
print a report (or publish a book) and have it read in a somewhat
legible manner. So, I want my events to all read in order. I also bow
to the male-dominated view of our society's past, and so list joint
(or what some call marriage events) under the husband's report. Once
the husband has died, however, I list remaining residences under the
widowed female spouse's events list. This method of mine works very
well for the mostly 1800 and early 1900 family members in my tree
(before wives reguarly had jobs outside of the home).

I edit the sentence definition of individual residence events once a
person has married to read in these various ways:
The family had a residence [inPlace].[Sources] [Notes] (where I don't know when)
or
The family has resided at [Desc] [inPlace] from [Date].[Sources]
[Notes] (when I don't want the dates I do know to show up, like 1998
to present)
or
They rented at [Desc] [inPlace] [onDate].[Sources] [Notes]
or
They resided at [Desc] [inPlace] [onDate].[Sources] [Notes]

So I suggest you try the various ideas people have suggested, then
print the reports you are most likely to use and see if you like how
they come out.

Regards,
Susan Daily


On 4/16/07, Bruce Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.

I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.

Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?

Thanks,
Bruce Jones



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Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread Elsie Saar
Sure, Mary: 

Event/Fact: Relationship
Desc/Place/Notes:  fourth cousin once removed to Elsie Scharpf 
for hubby: fourth cousin to Fred Saar
for a relative I meet online: fourth cousin to _  __ (enter name)

I have also changed the Family view to show the Relationship under the buried 
field. That way, I can see at a glance if someone is related and to whom. Of 
course, this will all be in error if someone inherits my database but then 
he/she can do with it whatever he/she wants. Right now it's my tool to use how 
it best suits me.

Elsie 
  - Original Message - 
  From: M. Brenzel 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 6:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement


  Elsie,

   

  Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?

   

  Mary

   

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

   

  That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter it for 
all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to my husband. If 
I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to our lines. I would 
love to be able to automatically tract relationships for my husband and myself 
at the same time. I put that request in.

  Elsie

   

   

  Genealogy research
  American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens
  German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer 

- Original Message - 

From: Mel Morris 

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM

Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

 

When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider 
adding the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree charts. I 
send a lot of people to check out my web page and they find who our common link 
is via the index and then have the devil's own job connecting me to the them! 
If all people on my tree were identified as to my relationship to them, it 
would be so much more clear - and as the relationships are already showing up 
in the database anyway, I can't see that as being very hard to program in.

 

Any chance?

 

Regards

Mel Morris

Burlington, Ontario

 

www.melmorrisfamilytree.com

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

2007-04-16 Thread Greg McMurdie
Jenny & Rodney,

My database contains individuals with just one map, more than one map, and
maps with photographs...

Greg

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Rodney Hall wrote
>
>If you open the individual?s picture gallery, you can drag your 
>preferred picture to the first place or just select which one you want 
>to be preferred by clicking on it and then on the star button at top 
>right of that page.

But I think the OP was referring to the situation of having only one 
picture (a map) attached to a person but not wanting that picture to be 
automatically displayed as the "preferred picture" is.
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Re: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

2007-04-16 Thread Jenny M Benson

Rodney Hall wrote


If you open the individual?s picture gallery, you can drag your 
preferred picture to the first place or just select which one you want 
to be preferred by clicking on it and then on the star button at top 
right of that page.


But I think the OP was referring to the situation of having only one 
picture (a map) attached to a person but not wanting that picture to be 
automatically displayed as the "preferred picture" is.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Jenny M Benson

Bruce Jones wrote

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?


Well, the clues are in the titles!

If an event relates to an Individual, then I use Individual Event. My 
grandfather was an Oil Merchant.  My Grandmother, his wife, was not 
employed outside the home.  I record his employment as an Individual 
Event.  My Grandparents lived together (after their marriage!) so I 
record their Residences as Marriage Events.  My parents, for several 
years, had a working partnership so I record *their* employment as a 
Marriage Event, although my father's earlier employment (during his 
marriage) is an Individual Event.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Overwhelming

2007-04-16 Thread Jenny M Benson

Ted & Gail Duffy wrote


As a new user of Legacy I am finding the amount of email is 
overwhelming. Have the people at Millennia considered hosting a Group 
site at Yahoo! or some other information sharing portal or tool that 
the users can modify what information they receive and/or filter on 
those topics they are interested in? Am I missing something here or is 
it a pain to scroll through numerous strings of email messages just to 
locate information I am interested in?


Do you have Outlook filter your Legacy mail into a separate folder? That 
makes it easier for a start.  Also using a different e-mail address for 
the mailing list can help.


What makes handling mailing lists even more simple is to use a decent 
e-mail program!  Personally, I use Turnpike which is *brilliant* for 
mailing lists - I opt to have it treat them like newsgroups and the 
messages are threaded and automatically expired after n days at my 
choice.


There are several other e-mail clients which are highly recommended.  I 
haven't used it myself but many of my friends subscribing to high-volume 
mailing lists swear by Gmail.


As for filtering out individual messages in which you are interested, 
there is such a vast wealth of information about Legacy on this list 
that how can you be sure you don't want to read a particular message? 
You never know when you are going to pick up some little nugget of 
information which is tremendously helpful - even experienced 
genealogists and long-time Legacy users find this.

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Re: [LegacyUG] About Pictures

2007-04-16 Thread Jenny M Benson

ronald ferguson wrote

A lot of what you ask is very much personal choice.


If you are thinking that in future you may wish to send the pictures 
with your files to, say, a relative(s) than you are probably best 
saving them in the Legacy folder


I agree with Ron on both counts.

I have found that what works best for me is having various subfolders 
(mainly one for each main family line and one for graves, buildings, 
etc) within C:\genealogy\photographs.  (C:\genealogy is the folder I 
created for all things Family History and has numerous sub-folders 
within it.)  Within these subfolders I keep my "master" copies of 
documents and photographs which are scanned/saved at high resolution and 
generally in TIFF format.  Some of them are very big files but print out 
beautifully.


As I have a vast quantity of very old family photographs I only want to 
attach a small percentage of them to Legacy and for these I have a 
second (smaller) copy in JPEG format which are all stored in C:\Program 
Files\Legacy\Pictures which is Legacy's default picture location.


All the picture filenames are very explicit, including the person's full 
name, (maiden name where applicable) so singling out any particular one 
is not a problem.  Having them all in one place makes it very easy to 
find them and very hard for Legacy to tie itself in knots!

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

2007-04-16 Thread Rodney Hall
If you open the individual's picture gallery, you can drag your preferred
picture to the first place or just select which one you want to be preferred
by clicking on it and then on the star button at top right of that page. You
can re-order all the pictures, if you so wish, by dragging them around.

 

The website will only show the preferred picture on an individual's page. To
display more, you can include them in "Events" added for the purpose.

 

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

 

I am a recent convert to Legacy and just imported my database. Is there a
way to disable the "Preferred Picture" functionality? For example, I made
JPEG maps of places where my ancestors were born, lived, died, etc., and
upon import into Legacy, some of these maps are the default "Preferred
Picture" for some of my ancestors for whom I do not have a picture. In these
cases, I would prefer to have the "Preferred Picture" not be these maps.

Secondly, just to confirm the functionality of the program, when I created
the web pages for my web site, I noticed that Legacy only uses the
"Preferred Picture" and excludes all other images. Is this correct? If so, I
hope this is one of the major enhancements for the program. I have scores of
old photographs I would like to include on my site. If I am wrong, please
let me know.

Thanks for the help.

Greg




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[LegacyUG] How to Disable "Preferred Picture" & Web Page Creation

2007-04-16 Thread Greg McMurdie
I am a recent convert to Legacy and just imported my database. Is there a
way to disable the “Preferred Picture” functionality? For example, I made
JPEG maps of places where my ancestors were born, lived, died, etc., and
upon import into Legacy, some of these maps are the default “Preferred
Picture” for some of my ancestors for whom I do not have a picture. In these
cases, I would prefer to have the “Preferred Picture” not be these maps.

Secondly, just to confirm the functionality of the program, when I created
the web pages for my web site, I noticed that Legacy only uses the
“Preferred Picture” and excludes all other images. Is this correct? If so, I
hope this is one of the major enhancements for the program. I have scores of
old photographs I would like to include on my site. If I am wrong, please
let me know.

Thanks for the help.

Greg



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Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

2007-04-16 Thread Winfrey Jim
Over time you will find that RINs are not constant.  If you export  
your file to a new Legacy file and do not check Maintain RINs, they  
will be renumbered.  After being bit with this several times over the  
years, I decided to keep the information pertinent to the subject of  
the photo.  In place of RIN, I use birth year.


Jim
On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Johnny V wrote:

One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and  
documents for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using  
the format;
LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for  
individuals,

LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages,
DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002,  
etc.) for Documents,

Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc.

Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between  
people of the same name using their RIN of the database and also  
locate different items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc.  
in a flash.


I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C  
in subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with  
relatives they are very easily located.


Hope this helps
John Valencic

On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala- 
Jukkara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sally
Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best  
way' to
keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your  
'master

copy'.

From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem  
appropriate

for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc).

As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will  
vary.  I
have one folder under my Legacy directory titled "Images".  Within  
this
folder I have several sub-folders.   My preference is to keep all  
'people'
images in one sub-folder titled "Photograph".  I also have digital  
images of
buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census  
records,
documents, etc.  These are also all filed in separate sub-folders  
according

to their subject category.

How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference.   
I prefer
a simple numbering system (File ID).  For example, my "Photographs"  
are
labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on.  My "Documents" are labeled  
D0001,
D0002, D0003, and so on.  The same applies to my other image  
categories.


Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing  
image fields
such as "Caption", "Date", "Description", and "File ID".  And also  
permits

assigning images to specific individuals.  This is where I record the
necessary details about each image.

Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this
information.  The report sorts by File ID.  Suggestions have been  
submitted

to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options.

Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of  
the
images.  Many people use MS Access since Access is directly  
compatible with
Legacy's data base.  However, this requires a reasonable  
understanding of
the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the  
desired

reports.  Not a lighthearted undertaking.

Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for  
images,

the process will be simple and efficient.

If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to  
email me

directly.

Gary
O'Fallon IL, USA

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Macias
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to organize the pictures.  With an  
HP scanner
> the image goes to the HP Solutions Center which apparently stores  
the

scans
> by date.  I've been opening them and doing some modest editing, then
saving
> them in TIFF format to an external hard drive.  Then I open the tiff
images
> in Photoshop Elements and do more dramatic editing and save as  
jpeg on
> external drive, in folder of edited images, to post to MyFamily  
website

and
> to use in email.  This seems like a lot of manipulating for each  
image and
> at this point I still have to add the image to Legacy. I've got  
multiple
> copies of each image but not really a backup since they're in  
different
> formats and stages of editing and sizes.  Before adding too many  
more I

need
> to figure out a filing system--in separate family folders,
> lastnamefirstname+brief description or date if I have it, is what  
I'm
> thinking so far.  Is there a better way to do this?  What are the  
rest of

> you doing to organize your photos, what programs are you using?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart LDS Ordinance Abbreviations

2007-04-16 Thread Margaret Bell
Go to LDS.org and go to search.  If you are able to contact the LDS Church.  
There is a contact area in the message areas where you can do this. 
Margaret Bell
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ted & Gail Duffy 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:34 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart LDS Ordinance Abbreviations


  Kate,

  I’m a bit confused. Are you saying when all of the ordinance work is 
completed for the individual we get a capital C? I have some names with BESC. 
The individual is missing the “P” (sealed to parents) ordinance. I have names 
with BEPS (all ordinance work done) but no C. I have others with BEPSC and yet 
others with BESC. Is there somewhere in the Help menu or Owners Manual that 
explains this?

  Ted

   


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  The capital letters indicate that the ordinance work has been done.  The 
lower case letters indicate that the individual’s name has been submitted and 
cleared for the work but the work has not been done. 

   

   

   

  Kate Smith Redford

  Salem, Oregon, USA

   

   

  503-910-6055 (cell phone)

  503-304-9226

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  <>

   

  Childrens ordinances. If all are complete, the C is capital.


http://oscox.org
  Web page for descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox.
  Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, 
  Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Bruce
I'm glad this issue has resurfaced again.  It was discussed briefly back in
February (under a 'marriage events' subject), but I don't believe much was
concluded.

Whether dealing with occupation information or some other Event, a method
should be established on each Event entry screen, for instance a box to
check as for "Private", that would enable each Event entered to appear both
in the marriage view and the individual view, and then also appear on
reports (FGR and Individual).

Now, I realize the downside to this is the appearance of identical
information on the FRG report under individual and marriage event areas.
This could be remedied by permitting a suppression option under Report
Options if one preferred to keep the information from appearing in both
areas.

An address event is a classic example.  If entered under the marriage event
screen as many do, the address will not appear on the individual screen (nor
on the individual report).  As Bruce implied, not having Event information
available in the marriage and individual areas results in a misunderstood
sequence of Events in a person's life.

The current workaround for this is to enter the same information twice, once
on the marriage event screen and once on the individual event screen; or,
don't make such entries under Marriage Events.  I don't believe either is
necessary given computer technology.

Interested to hear the positions of others on this.

Gary   

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> 
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a
> Marriage Event.
> 
> The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were
> always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over
Europe
> and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in
London.
> I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in
hotels
> miles away from their families.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> 
> >From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700
> >
> >I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.
> >
> >I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
> >married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.
> >
> >Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
> >marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
> >I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
> >would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
> >after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
> >Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.
> >
> >How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
> >Resident & Employment (and other) Events?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bruce Jones



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[LegacyUG] GEDCOM

2007-04-16 Thread Colin Wilton-Davies
I don't think anyone has yet written the perfect Family History program, but 
RootsMagic and Legacy seem to lead the pack. I like to use both from time time, 
and GEDCOM is the only practical means of transferring data from one to the 
other. Each program has two particular features that I value; each 
place/location can have latitude/longitude attached, and can also have notes 
attached.
When I make a GEDCOM file from either program, these attachments can be read by 
the program which generated the file, but NOT by the other program.
Someone should suffer for the wear from gnashing my teeth. Is there a fix?
Colin Wilton-Davies in sunny Jersey, Channel Islands


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RE: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread ronald ferguson


Bruce,

I have always considered Occupation as an Individual Event and not a 
Marriage Event.


The reason for this is quite simple. Whilst my marriage addresses were 
always in the Manchester area UK my places of work have been all over Europe 
and totally unrelated. For much of my working life my office was in London. 
I have seen this with my ancestors who at census time were staying in hotels 
miles away from their families.


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:25:27 -0700

I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.

I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.

Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?

Thanks,
Bruce Jones


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RE: [LegacyUG] Overwhelming - subject lines

2007-04-16 Thread ronald ferguson



Carol,

One should never change the subject line in a Newsgroup when sending 
messages as in many groups when sorting into threads the subject "as seen" 
is not used for sorting the threads. Whether or not the Legacy Archives use 
this method I'm not sure - but it may.


To change the subject a new thread always should be started by using 
Create/New on one's email program.


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From: Carol Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Overwhelming - subject lines
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:03:52 +1000

It would make it much easier for everyone if everyone was careful to change 
the subject line before they send the message


Carol

At 02:18 PM 16/04/2007, you wrote:

Nice hint about grouping by subject. I have my Legacy emails going into a
Legacy folder, but having the folder sort by subject is a great idea.
Thanks
Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Overwhelming

Emails have subject lines for a reason.
You can delete emails with subject lines of no interest.
When reading a mailing list, if it is filtered
into its own mailbox and you set the mailbox so
that at one level it sorts by subject (I use
Eudora and you can use several criteria for
sorting), then all emails with the same subject
line are sorted together and it is a simple
matter to delete them. Takes seconds to deal with
a high volume mailing list and leave just the emails I want to read.

I'm on a lot of email lists. I read almost all
the Legacy mail except when I'm especially busy
as I have been the last couple of weeks.

Other lists I delete the majority just on subject line.

Having to go to forums just takes too long for me.

Perhaps I just don't understand the original
suggestion. I can't see how a filter could be set
up to bring you topics of interest. People write
such strange subject lines and I can't imagine
that they would fill in keywords correctly either.
Certainly on Rootsweb forums, you get many
messages with surnames listed in the relevant
boxes which are completely irrelevant to the current message.

Cathy

At 11:40 PM 15/04/2007, you wrote:

>I totally agree with Ted & Gail on this issue. I
>belong to many forums from computers to
>woodworking machinery and they are much more
>user friendly than the format used here at
>Legacy. Why have to create filters, just
>subscribe to the issues that concern you? e.g.
>you would not receive this in your inbox if it
>was of no interest to you.
>
>Just my 2¢ worth
>John Valencic
> > As a new user of Legacy I am finding the amount of email is
> > overwhelming. Have the people at Millennia considered hosting a Group
> > site at Yahoo! or some other information sharing portal or tool that
> > the users can modify what information they receive and/or filter on
> > those topics they are interested in? Am I missing something here or 
is
> > it a pain to scroll through numerous strings of email messages just 
to

> > locate information I am interested in?
> >
> > Ted


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RE: [LegacyUG] Another refinement

2007-04-16 Thread M. Brenzel
Elsie,
 
Can you provide an example of what your Relationship Event looks like?
 
Mary
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elsie
Saar
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
That would be great. I now have an event I call relationship and enter
it for all people, either how they relate to me or how they related to
my husband. If I don't, I'll be chasing people who have no connection to
our lines. I would love to be able to automatically tract relationships
for my husband and myself at the same time. I put that request in.
Elsie
 
 
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- Original Message - 
From: Mel Morris   
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Another refinement
 
When the developers are looking for enhancements, they might consider
adding the option of showing relationships on web generated pedidgree
charts. I send a lot of people to check out my web page and they find
who our common link is via the index and then have the devil's own job
connecting me to the them! If all people on my tree were identified as
to my relationship to them, it would be so much more clear - and as the
relationships are already showing up in the database anyway, I can't see
that as being very hard to program in.
 
Any chance?
 
Regards
Mel Morris
Burlington, Ontario
 
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[LegacyUG] Individual events vs marriage events

2007-04-16 Thread Bruce Jones

I am puzzled as to where to put my father's employment events.

I have up to now put Residence Events with the individual until
married and then put all following Residence Events with the marriage.

Now when I started putting my father's Employment Events (some before
marriage, others after), I put all of them as individual events.  Then
I realized that any Employment Events that occurred after his marriage
would not match where he lived at that time.  The Residence Events
after marriage would be under the marriage section of the Family Group
Sheet and would not appear at all in the Individual Report.

How do others decide whether to use Individual or Marriage Events for
Resident & Employment (and other) Events?

Thanks,
Bruce Jones


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Re: [LegacyUG] Living individuals

2007-04-16 Thread kurland


- Original Message - 
From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Living individuals

Hi Cathy,
thanks for answering.


Hi Eva,
You can't in Legacy. You could in Access.


Unfortunately I'm not really used to work in Access. And I don't know how to 
do it.


Note that in Legacy "private" is different from "suppress details of 
living" and the latter, which can be set in reports and exports, may be OK 
for you.

Yes it is.
However, if you are really wanting to display some

living people and not others, that is a different matter.
I'm one of those who don't think the information of the living should be 
included on online trees whether or not people have given permission.
I think as you do, but some people wanted the other way - so I asked for it. 
I suppose I'll stay to my opinion not including information of th livings.

Thank anyway a lot.
Eva


Cathy

At 08:54 PM 15/04/2007, you wrote:


Hello,

I really do want to know as well how to mark all living people as private 
in one operation. When I upload my database for example in TNG I want to 
have all my living people as private. Than I am able to make only those 
people visuable who allowed me to show there dates on the internet.


Therefore the question again: Is there a way to check / mark all living 
persons in the database as private in one operation?


Thanks for any help
Eva




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