Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[Wendy Howard]

Thanks, Ron & John, for your replies.  :-)

Yes, Ron, the new child is being properly verified and sourced!  All I 
have to go on so far is the text message I received early this morning, 
which I've transcribed into the source to be printed in reports - my 
aunt included the full names of both parents as well as the baby's, so 
that I could include them in my database; for those who are wondering 
how you source a text message, I've used a Master Source called "Private 
Correspondence", and entered the name, date and time of the message in 
the detail, as well as the transcription in the detail text tab.  And a 
photo that she emailed me is now set in the database, too.  Perhaps 
there will be more when the new great-grandmother and also the new great 
aunt (my other first cousin who is only 35!) visit me tomorrow, but the 
birth won't be registered yet, I expect.


I don't normally record that "end" of the family, ie the kids of my own 
first cousins.  Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to 
make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and 
write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of 
my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!!  I figure 
she is making up for those of us who haven't - and aren't likely to - 
have kids of our own.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents

[Dawn Crowley]

My understanding on this:
1)  Yes, if you selected "show 1/2 siblings"
to choose:   right click on a child in the family view > select 
view > select show 1/2 kids (or not)
2 & 3)  I don't know any way to do these.  That doesn't mean it can't be 
done, I just don't know. 
  
Dawn


Robert P wrote:


Interesting.  I can see that now.  Oops - thanks for pointing that out.
 
1) - Should I see the same child be listed twice (once as a 1/2 and 
once as a "full" sibling)?  Is there a way around this?  Or did I do 
some wrong setting with the relationships?  It doesn't happen in the 
training videos.
2) - Can I get the RELATIONSHIP TO PARENT to show up on the screens?  
Or is there any way to indicate visually if it is a "blood" line vs a 
"legal/historical" line?
3) - Can I force the Child Settings screen to come up everytime I add 
a child?  (yeah, I'll probably hate having it come up every time after 
adding a few kids, but I think it is important.)
 
Thanks,

Bob

- Original Message -
From: Dawn Crowley 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents

H.  I noticed your post.  I read them as information, but not
questions.  What do you wish to know about these options?

Dawn

Robert P wrote:


I haven't gotten any "nibbles" on these three questions, so I'll
send them out again.  Hope ya'll don't mind.  I admit that it has
only been a few days since the first post, but this seems like
such an active usergroup and most posts seem to get SOME kind of
response in a day or so.  So I'm assuming my initial one just got
lost in the shuffle.

- Original Message - From: "Robert P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than
One Set of Parents


Related to this, I've run into a couple "weird" situations:

1) Child born to parent 1 & 2, now cared for by parent 1 & 3

If I turn on "show 1/2 siblings" on the FAMILY TAB - the child
shows up twice (same RIN) under each parent set  - once as a full
sibling (but with no biological/guardian/adopted indicator), and
once as a 1/2 brother.

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological
mother/father, I have the CHILD STATUS as blank and the
RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to BIOLOGICAL.

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under 1 & 3, I have the
CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER as
BIOLOGICAL and RELATIONSHIP TO MOTHER as blank (I don't know if
the "step mother" ever adopted or even got guardianship).

I tried playing with the CHILD SETTINGS by putting GUARDIAN in
there.  This shows up on the screens in Legacy 5 Deluxe, but
doesn't seem to in Legacy 6 standard.  However CHILD SETTINGS
doesn't seem like the right place to put that info - it seems
like it should go under RELATION SHIP TO  field.

---
2) Child born to parent 4 & 5, now raised by aunt & uncle
(person's 6 & 7) under guardianship.

Child shows up in Pedigree, Family, Descendant views as a true
"child" - no indicator that it is not a blood-line child.

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under the aunt/uncle, I have
the CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER
both set to GUARDIAN.
When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological
mother/father, I have the CHILD STATUS as blank and the
RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to BIOLOGICAL.

Again, I tried playing with CHILD SETTINGS, but this does not
seem to be the right place to put the ADOPTED, GUARDIAN, etc
settings.

---
3) Another related question (I'm using Legacy 5 Deluxe) - is
there a way to "force" "Child Settings" to come up every time a
child is entered? (just like the Marriage Info automatically
comes up whenever a spouse is added)?
I believe this RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER was just added in
version 5, so I'm hoping that version 6 (or 7) improves upon this
feature (I haven't played w Version 6 Standard very much, and
don't have Version 6 Deluxe).  I very much believe that it is
important to show the type of relationship between parent/child. 
I think the child should show up under any "family unit" that

cared for him as that accurately shows family history - but I
also feel it is important to show blood-line vs not-blood-line
for medical research.

Thanks,
Bob




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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than
One S

Re: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug

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Re: [LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents

[Robert P]

Interesting.  I can see that now.  Oops - thanks for pointing that out.

1) - Should I see the same child be listed twice (once as a 1/2 and once as a 
"full" sibling)?  Is there a way around this?  Or did I do some wrong setting 
with the relationships?  It doesn't happen in the training videos.
2) - Can I get the RELATIONSHIP TO PARENT to show up on the screens?  Or is 
there any way to indicate visually if it is a "blood" line vs a 
"legal/historical" line?
3) - Can I force the Child Settings screen to come up everytime I add a child?  
(yeah, I'll probably hate having it come up every time after adding a few kids, 
but I think it is important.)

Thanks,
Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dawn Crowley 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents


  H.  I noticed your post.  I read them as information, but not questions.  
What do you wish to know about these options?

  Dawn

  Robert P wrote:

I haven't gotten any "nibbles" on these three questions, so I'll send them 
out again.  Hope ya'll don't mind.  I admit that it has only been a few days 
since the first post, but this seems like such an active usergroup and most 
posts seem to get SOME kind of response in a day or so.  So I'm assuming my 
initial one just got lost in the shuffle. 

- Original Message - From: "Robert P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To:  
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than One Set of 
Parents 


Related to this, I've run into a couple "weird" situations: 

1) Child born to parent 1 & 2, now cared for by parent 1 & 3 

If I turn on "show 1/2 siblings" on the FAMILY TAB - the child shows up 
twice (same RIN) under each parent set  - once as a full sibling (but with no 
biological/guardian/adopted indicator), and once as a 1/2 brother. 

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological mother/father, I have 
the CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to 
BIOLOGICAL. 

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under 1 & 3, I have the CHILD STATUS 
as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER as BIOLOGICAL and RELATIONSHIP TO 
MOTHER as blank (I don't know if the "step mother" ever adopted or even got 
guardianship). 

I tried playing with the CHILD SETTINGS by putting GUARDIAN in there.  This 
shows up on the screens in Legacy 5 Deluxe, but doesn't seem to in Legacy 6 
standard.  However CHILD SETTINGS doesn't seem like the right place to put that 
info - it seems like it should go under RELATION SHIP TO  field. 

--- 
2) Child born to parent 4 & 5, now raised by aunt & uncle (person's 6 & 7) 
under guardianship. 

Child shows up in Pedigree, Family, Descendant views as a true "child" - no 
indicator that it is not a blood-line child. 

When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under the aunt/uncle, I have the CHILD 
STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to GUARDIAN. 
When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological mother/father, I have 
the CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to 
BIOLOGICAL. 

Again, I tried playing with CHILD SETTINGS, but this does not seem to be 
the right place to put the ADOPTED, GUARDIAN, etc settings. 

--- 
3) Another related question (I'm using Legacy 5 Deluxe) - is there a way to 
"force" "Child Settings" to come up every time a child is entered? (just like 
the Marriage Info automatically comes up whenever a spouse is added)? 
I believe this RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER was just added in version 5, 
so I'm hoping that version 6 (or 7) improves upon this feature (I haven't 
played w Version 6 Standard very much, and don't have Version 6 Deluxe).  I 
very much believe that it is important to show the type of relationship between 
parent/child.  I think the child should show up under any "family unit" that 
cared for him as that accurately shows family history - but I also feel it is 
important to show blood-line vs not-blood-line for medical research. 

Thanks, 
Bob 



  - Original Message - From: "Randolph Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To:  
  Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:51 PM 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than One Set of 
Parents 



It's under Miscellaneous Searches. 

On 9/9/07, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  Is there a way to view or print a list of individauls in the family 
file who 
  have more than one set of parents? 

  This is what happened. I merged several files and when I begain 
working with 
  the reults, I noticed a female whose parents were not showing on the 
family 
  page. I searched for her father and found t

Re: [LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

IMHO, the choice might not exist. I do not know of way
to get what you want. So I generally do not answer to
say as above, and usually someone else will come up
with a solution. Since no answers showing up, I take
it as a clue. 
When multiple marriages and the children coming from
them are 'correctly' assigned extra parents/offspring
tne reports will get convoluted. Computers 'think' in
absolutes. People hardly ever do.
Rich in LA CA

--- Robert P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I haven't gotten any "nibbles" on these three
> questions, so I'll send them 
> out again.  Hope ya'll don't mind. > 

> Related to this, I've run into a couple "weird"
> situations:






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[LegacyUG] Individuals with More than One Set of Parents

[Robert P]

I haven't gotten any "nibbles" on these three questions, so I'll send them 
out again.  Hope ya'll don't mind.  I admit that it has only been a few days 
since the first post, but this seems like such an active usergroup and most 
posts seem to get SOME kind of response in a day or so.  So I'm assuming my 
initial one just got lost in the shuffle.


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than One Set of 
Parents



Related to this, I've run into a couple "weird" situations:

1) Child born to parent 1 & 2, now cared for by parent 1 & 3

If I turn on "show 1/2 siblings" on the FAMILY TAB - the child shows up 
twice (same RIN) under each parent set  - once as a full sibling (but with 
no biological/guardian/adopted indicator), and once as a 1/2 brother.


When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological mother/father, I have 
the CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to 
BIOLOGICAL.


When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under 1 & 3, I have the CHILD STATUS as 
blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER as BIOLOGICAL and RELATIONSHIP TO 
MOTHER as blank (I don't know if the "step mother" ever adopted or even got 
guardianship).


I tried playing with the CHILD SETTINGS by putting GUARDIAN in there.  This 
shows up on the screens in Legacy 5 Deluxe, but doesn't seem to in Legacy 6 
standard.  However CHILD SETTINGS doesn't seem like the right place to put 
that info - it seems like it should go under RELATION SHIP TO  field.


---
2) Child born to parent 4 & 5, now raised by aunt & uncle (person's 6 & 7) 
under guardianship.


Child shows up in Pedigree, Family, Descendant views as a true "child" - no 
indicator that it is not a blood-line child.


When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under the aunt/uncle, I have the CHILD 
STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to GUARDIAN.
When I right click on CHILD SETTINGS under biological mother/father, I have 
the CHILD STATUS as blank and the RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER both set to 
BIOLOGICAL.


Again, I tried playing with CHILD SETTINGS, but this does not seem to be the 
right place to put the ADOPTED, GUARDIAN, etc settings.


---
3) Another related question (I'm using Legacy 5 Deluxe) - is there a way to 
"force" "Child Settings" to come up every time a child is entered? (just 
like the Marriage Info automatically comes up whenever a spouse is added)?
I believe this RELATIONSHIP TO FATHER/MOTHER was just added in version 5, so 
I'm hoping that version 6 (or 7) improves upon this feature (I haven't 
played w Version 6 Standard very much, and don't have Version 6 Deluxe).  I 
very much believe that it is important to show the type of relationship 
between parent/child.  I think the child should show up under any "family 
unit" that cared for him as that accurately shows family history - but I 
also feel it is important to show blood-line vs not-blood-line for medical 
research.


Thanks,
Bob



- Original Message - 
From: "Randolph Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to Find Individuals with More than One Set of 
Parents




It's under Miscellaneous Searches.

On 9/9/07, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there a way to view or print a list of individauls in the family file 
who

have more than one set of parents?

This is what happened. I merged several files and when I begain working 
with
the reults, I noticed a female whose parents were not showing on the 
family

page. I searched for her father and found the family page of her parents
where she was listed as a child.

I then went back to the fmaily page where this individual was dsiplayed 
as

the wife (with no parents). When I hovered the cursor over the parents'
icon, It showed that the woman had to sets of parentsone set were 
both
"Unknown Unknown" and the other set were her real parents. Apparently 
the
Unknown Unknow were being treated as her "preferred" parents. I was able 
to

fix that.

What scares me is that there may be other similar instances. With 
thousands
of people in the file, is there a way to identify individuals with more 
than
one set of parents without looking at each and every family record? To 
be

able to print such a list to use while correcting the problems would be
*very* useful.

Thanks,

--
Thad Evotee
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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Robert P]

I appreciate the suggestions.  I was really hoping for a "lazy man's" way 
out - where I could give them access to the live file but yet not allow them 
to change it.  That way I wouldn't have to duplicate anything and they'd 
always have access to the most recent version without any work on my side. 
(no PDF exporting, no CD burning, etc).


But I also like the idea of making a copy for them that could, in a way, 
serve as a backup.  Luckily we have a couple computers and they RARELY ever 
get on "my" computer - so it would be pretty easy to regularly dup the files 
over to the other computer.  (Of course I also do a Legacy backup (ie: a ZIP 
file) onto a different harddrive.)


Thanks again,
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracy Skegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?



I also regularly check what's been modified on my file and can pick up
changes she's made that way.  Legacy is truly so flexible and user
friendly my 4yo loves using it, particularly the pedigree tab with all
the pictures.  So I can relate to Bob's issues.
Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Gene Young]

Tracy Skegg wrote:

 I'd love to have a lock on the file so
munchkin can't adjust anything really important. 


Tracy,

I don't know how you can lock your file but you can easily lock your computer.


1. Right click on your desktop;
2. Select NEW > Shortcut
3. In the Text box in the Wizard that asks for the location of the item enter;

%windir%\system32\rundll32.exe user32.dll,LockWorkStation

4. Select Next
5. Name it lock desk top (or anything you wish) and select OK.

Now give your user account a simple password (I use my initials as they are quick and easy to 
enter).  Now when you double click your new shortcut you will lock your desktop and the "munchkin" 
will not be able to access anything (unless she crack your password and then you have bigger 
problems that sss)


You may also drag the shortcut to your taskbar for a one click lock.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index? - Problem solved...

[BrannenGA]

...and I can't be the tail that wags the dog, but I'd make a small change  to 
the Alternate Names box format.  See below.  
 
Before, I was working with a huge file that printed 400+  pages.  So I never 
paged through the whole Index.  This  time I tried a much smaller file and 
noticed for the first time that all of my  alternate names were being dumped at 
the start of the Index under '(no  surname).'   I hadn't been putting a surname 
in the Alternate Name  box.  I had assumed that the alternate name box was 
for nicknames and that  the nickname would be naturally associated with the 
surname. It didn't  occur to me that someone could have an alternate surname, 
but 
now that it's been  called to my attention, I can think of an example where it 
could be used --  people with hyphenated names probably want to list their 
surnames more than  one way.
 
Thanks to all who replied to my query.  
 
My 2 cents to Legacy is to re-do the Alternate Names box to automatically  
insert the last name into the surname blank like you do in the family  records. 
 
The user would still have the ability to over-write it, but 99%  of the time 
he wouldn't need to.  And Assumers like me wouldn't pull their  hair out.  
 
sign me RELIEVED IN ATLANTA
(now I can get these tomes printed in time for the family reunion next  
weekend.)



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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Tracy Skegg]

I also regularly check what's been modified on my file and can pick up
changes she's made that way.  Legacy is truly so flexible and user
friendly my 4yo loves using it, particularly the pedigree tab with all
the pictures.  So I can relate to Bob's issues.
Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Tracy Skegg]

Tried that Ron, can't seem to lock out the programs on the start menu
in XP for her logon. I've come into the computer room to find her on
software programs like Legacy and Word.  She's also prone to changing
shortcut icons on the desktop to her name, very helpful child. So, my
workaround is to keep regular backups through each session I'm in my
file, probably will have to do this until she loses interest in
computers :)
Cheers
Tracy



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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[ronald ferguson]

Tracy,

Why don't you password protect yourself as a (Windows) User ? You could 
always give your child her own User ID and stick some of the files on it - I 
suspect that even a four yr old wouldn't take long to work out which is 
hers!.


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From: "Tracy Skegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:46:59 +1000

Wonderful suggestions, pity my 4yo likes to come to my file while I'm
doing something else, like answering the phone.  She likes to type her
name and see the pictures of herself and her grandparents - I can't
always easily find where she's helped me out with data entry/changes.
I did find one the other day when I did a narrative report, others
looking at it must have thought I was losing it to type in repeated
letters eg. sss.  I'd love to have a lock on the file so
munchkin can't adjust anything really important.  I try to backup
before I move away from the file, at least if I really can't be
certain of her changes, I can restore from the backup.
Cheers
Tracy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

[ronald ferguson]

Tracy,

Yes, I do check "Just leave it blank". I don't use Charting Companion so I 
regret that I do not know if there is a way round the behaviour you mention.


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:31:09 +1000

Ron, do you also check "Just leave it blank" instead of "Unknown"?

Options > Customise > Data Format > Word for Blank Records > (Just
leave it blank.)

It works well for Legacy, but add-ons like Legacy Charting Companion
put in "Unknown" if the person field is blank for MRINs.
Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Tracy Skegg]

Wonderful suggestions, pity my 4yo likes to come to my file while I'm
doing something else, like answering the phone.  She likes to type her
name and see the pictures of herself and her grandparents - I can't
always easily find where she's helped me out with data entry/changes.
I did find one the other day when I did a narrative report, others
looking at it must have thought I was losing it to type in repeated
letters eg. sss.  I'd love to have a lock on the file so
munchkin can't adjust anything really important.  I try to backup
before I move away from the file, at least if I really can't be
certain of her changes, I can restore from the backup.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[John S. Adams]

The original question referred to an asterisk next to the relationship.  It 
designates a relative of a later, or younger generation.  E.g., my first 
cousin's granddaughter is my 1st cousin, twice removed.  My grandfather's 1st 
cousin is also my 1st cousin twice removed.  The cousin's gr dau is marked with 
an * to indicate a younger generation.  Grandpa's cousin has no *.

John S. Adams
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mitch Mackrory 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship


  From the Help File ...

  Preferred Child

  The Preferred child is generally a direct line ancestor.  This child
  is shown in the child list with a leading asterisk (*).  You can
  change the Preferred child by right-clicking any child name and
  choosing the Set to Preferred Child option.

  Cheers, Mitch

  On 9/12/07, RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > What it means the * person is the prefered descendant
  > and/or direct line for RIN #1. I forgot where the
  > options to set these are, but there are a few choices
  > there.
  > Rich in LA CA
  >
  > --- Wendy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > > Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that
  > > both my first cousin
  > > once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin
  > > twice removed (the
  > > baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their
  > > relationship to me above the names.
  >
  >
  >
  >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

[Tracy Skegg]

Ron, do you also check "Just leave it blank" instead of "Unknown"?

Options > Customise > Data Format > Word for Blank Records > (Just
leave it blank.)

It works well for Legacy, but add-ons like Legacy Charting Companion
put in "Unknown" if the person field is blank for MRINs.
Cheers
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[ronald ferguson]

Mitch and Richard,

The OP is not referring to the preferred child but to the relationships 
detailed *above* the panel in the Family View.


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From: "Mitch Mackrory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:17:51 -0600

From the Help File ...

Preferred Child

The Preferred child is generally a direct line ancestor.  This child
is shown in the child list with a leading asterisk (*).  You can
change the Preferred child by right-clicking any child name and
choosing the Set to Preferred Child option.

Cheers, Mitch

On 9/12/07, RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What it means the * person is the prefered descendant
> and/or direct line for RIN #1. I forgot where the
> options to set these are, but there are a few choices
> there.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- Wendy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that
> > both my first cousin
> > once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin
> > twice removed (the
> > baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their
> > relationship to me above the names.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[ronald ferguson]

Mary,

Glad to see both our football teams won tonight - nice to be able to gloat 
for once!


I don't actually  need an asterisk to show me my cousins' relationships 
since they are my contempories. I guess though that I could make a mistake 
between two people with the same relationship to the start person if I set 
relationships based on a distant ancestor when I may not be as certain as to 
exactly how a person fitted in. Maybe unlikely, but possible.


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From: "Mary Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:33:58 +0100

Ron
Just by chance, I too just noticed this asterisk, and was puzzled by it.
But why would you need the asterisk to show
>  the removed cousin is the offspring of an aunt/uncle rather
> than great aunt/great uncle.
That is already indicated by closeness of cousinship, i.e.
offspring of an aunt/uncle is "1st cousin" ... removed
offspring of gr-aunt/gruncle is "2nd cousin" ... removed
Regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[Mitch Mackrory]

>From the Help File ...

Preferred Child

The Preferred child is generally a direct line ancestor.  This child
is shown in the child list with a leading asterisk (*).  You can
change the Preferred child by right-clicking any child name and
choosing the Set to Preferred Child option.

Cheers, Mitch

On 9/12/07, RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What it means the * person is the prefered descendant
> and/or direct line for RIN #1. I forgot where the
> options to set these are, but there are a few choices
> there.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- Wendy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that
> > both my first cousin
> > once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin
> > twice removed (the
> > baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their
> > relationship to me above the names.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What it means the * person is the prefered descendant
and/or direct line for RIN #1. I forgot where the
options to set these are, but there are a few choices
there. 
Rich in LA CA

--- Wendy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that
> both my first cousin 
> once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin
> twice removed (the 
> baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their
> relationship to me above the names.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[Mary Young]

Ron
Just by chance, I too just noticed this asterisk, and was puzzled by it.
But why would you need the asterisk to show
>  the removed cousin is the offspring of an aunt/uncle rather
> than great aunt/great uncle.
That is already indicated by closeness of cousinship, i.e.
offspring of an aunt/uncle is "1st cousin" ... removed
offspring of gr-aunt/gruncle is "2nd cousin" ... removed
Regards,
Mary Young



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[ronald ferguson]

Wendy,

Congratulations on the latest addition to your tree, I hope that the child 
will be properly verified and sourced :-) .


I think that you are correct. I have had a look at mine and the asterisks 
only occur when the removed cousin is the offspring of an aunt/uncle rather 
than great aunt/great uncle.


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From: Wendy Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:21:18 +1200

One of my aunts became a great-grandmother this morning.  :-)

Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that both my first cousin once 
removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin twice removed (the baby) 
have an asterisk (*) next to their relationship to me above the names.


Can someone tell me what this means, please?  Is it indicating the 
"direction" of the "removed" part?


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
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[LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship

[Wendy Howard]

One of my aunts became a great-grandmother this morning.  :-)

Upon entering the new generation, I noticed that both my first cousin 
once removed (the baby's mother) and my first cousin twice removed (the 
baby) have an asterisk (*) next to their relationship to me above the names.


Can someone tell me what this means, please?  Is it indicating the 
"direction" of the "removed" part?


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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Re: [LegacyUG] 93-page pension file - handle?

[Barb Weed]

Hi Janice,  I have a 120 page pension file containing both legal and letter 
size sheets.  There was so much information there that I used sheet protecters 
and put it in its own 3 ring binder. I made this binder the file for my Duncan 
Research.

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Subject: [LegacyUG] 93-page pension file - handle?




 
 








How do others on the list handle the filing of a 93 page
complete pension file? I am trying to put everything in notebooks, with sheet
protectors. This is obviously not going to fit that format. Although none of
the original sheets appear to have been legal size, the person at NARA who
copied the file for me put it on legal paper. I don’t use legal-size
folders (petty prejudice on my part).
 

  
 

Surely no one would use 45 page protectors?
 

  
 

Thoughts welcomed, in spite of the fact that it is a lame
question; I think the only answer must be “file it in a legal size
folder.”
 

  
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] VIEW ONLY setting?

[Kathy Shiell-Stokes]

Robert:
If you burn a copy of your family tree file onto a cd and give that 
to the kids, they will be unable to make any changes to the file. As 
part of the burning process, Legacy automatically sets a read only 
attribute on the file that can only be removed by copying it to a 
hard drive and resetting it there.

Consider it a backup..
KathyAt 10:56 PM 9/9/2007, you wrote:
Does Legacy have a "view only" setting?  I'd love to set up Windows 
Shortcuts so my kids could view the family tree info and print 
reports, but I don't want to have to worry about them accidentally 
changing something.


Without that option, I guess I can make a duplicate of my database 
and give them access to the duplicate.  Then whenever I make a 
change, I just need to remember to overwrite that duplicate so they 
will have up-to-date info.


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Re: Baby Book - Was Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question

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Unpublished manuscript by (names of mother and grandmothers)


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Subject: Baby Book - Was Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question



How would you categorize a "Baby Book Family Tree"? I recently found
one of my distant cousins still has her baby book. This was filled out
by her mother and grandmothers. One grandmother was my great aunt. The
information in the baby
book gave me another source for indentifying my ggg grandfather.

Also how would I enter this source? Would I consider it to be similar
to a family bible?

I have the scanned copies of the Family Tree in her Baby Book.

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Baby Book - Was Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question

[marilyn E B]

How would you categorize a "Baby Book Family Tree"? I recently found
one of my distant cousins still has her baby book. This was filled out
by her mother and grandmothers. One grandmother was my great aunt. The
information in the baby
book gave me another source for indentifying my ggg grandfather.

Also how would I enter this source? Would I consider it to be similar
to a family bible?

I have the scanned copies of the Family Tree in her Baby Book.

Marilyn



On 9/12/07, Gary Templeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly. I don't consider most of those other things you listed as sources
> for my birth, because at root they are all either derivitives of the birth
> certificate or on the honor system. I would consider a diary entry or letter
> from my mother, photographs, or something else generated at that time as a
> primary source for *that* event. Hence my question about not entering a
> person into the database without *three* sources for the event. The OP
> specifically said three sources for "event", not three sources indicating
> the existance of the person.
>
> Gary
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Hinckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Question
>
>
> > Gary, are you sure you're you? can you prove it?  Some sources are
> > dependent on other sources in real life. How did we get driver's licenses?
> > Birth certificate as proof, maybe? A bill from the power company with our
> > name and address on it? How did we get that? Show our driver's license? or
> > just tell the power co. where to send the bill. Library card? Pu-leese.
> > And should I show them my original social security card from 196... um,
> > hum, from earlier in the last century, my signature has changed a lot
> > since I was a teen... er, baby. And when babies, speaking of which, get a
> > SS# at birth, who is the authority for the name? Parents. Do they have to
> > show "proof"?  "'Tis a tangled web we're woven in, Once we practice to I D
> > ourselves.
> >
> > Gary Templeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I don't think I can be
> > that stringent.  Heck, I don't think I have three
> > independent sources for MY birth.
> >
> > Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug

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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[Jimquist]

On the Descendant Book Report Options page, down at the bottom Left, click 
on Index Options... and there, under the Name Index, select "Include 
alternate names" - -

That made it work for me
Jim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[Sharon Perdue]

It works fine for me
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  I did have "Alternate given and surnames' checked on the "Include" tab on the 
"Options for Descendant Books" screen.  And it still doesn't work.  

  Is everyone looking at the same report?  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express Training Videos??

[Quest]

Thank you very much.  I don't know how I missed that.

Karima


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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express Training Videos??



Yes on the passage express website:
http://www.passageexpress.com/videotutorials.php
Evert

2007/9/12, Quest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Are there any training videos available for Passage Express?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[BrannenGA]

Ok, I did that.  Still doesn't work.



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[LegacyUG] Gedcom Export

[hwatman]

I just tried adding URL event to a few people with myspace pages.? After a few 
failed attempts to review the results on my TNG site I discovered that the URL 
event is not exported.? The customize list for the export function does not 
include the URL event and several others in the options to be included on 
export.? how can this be changed?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug

[Ken McGinnis]

Fixed, next build.

Thanks

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug


This is such a little thing you might not even notice it, but I do and 
it really bugs me (pardon the pun!)


In the Assigned Sources for .." window, with the Detail open you see 
headings for Detail:, Detail Comments:, Recorded Date:: and File ID.


Notice the two colons after Recorded Date?  And no colon after File ID?

Like I said, such a *little* thing, but being such a little thing 
perhaps will be no more than a couple of minutes of a programmer's time 
to put it right.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug

[ronald ferguson]

Jenny,

I hadn't noticed that but you promted me to have a look at the Source Detail 
for Name. The Recorded Date again has the double colon after it but on this 
screen the File ID does have a single colon.


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From: Jenny M Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:09:26 +0100

This is such a little thing you might not even notice it, but I do and it 
really bugs me (pardon the pun!)


In the Assigned Sources for .." window, with the Detail open you see 
headings for Detail:, Detail Comments:, Recorded Date:: and File ID.


Notice the two colons after Recorded Date?  And no colon after File ID?

Like I said, such a *little* thing, but being such a little thing perhaps 
will be no more than a couple of minutes of a programmer's time to put it 
right.

--
Jenny M Benson


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[LegacyUG] Teensy weensy bug

[Jenny M Benson]

This is such a little thing you might not even notice it, but I do and 
it really bugs me (pardon the pun!)


In the Assigned Sources for .." window, with the Detail open you see 
headings for Detail:, Detail Comments:, Recorded Date:: and File ID.


Notice the two colons after Recorded Date?  And no colon after File ID?

Like I said, such a *little* thing, but being such a little thing 
perhaps will be no more than a couple of minutes of a programmer's time 
to put it right.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Passage Express Training Videos??

[Evert van Dijken]

Yes on the passage express website:
http://www.passageexpress.com/videotutorials.php
Evert

2007/9/12, Quest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Are there any training videos available for Passage Express?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Karima



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