Re: [LegacyUG] Want all family Group Records for a person and his descendants

[Rob Vader]

Yes, the outcome clearly shows that when I choose a person and the
(entire) descendant list you are right. But as an Innocent user I
would expect that when I pick a person and the descendant list that I
get the descendants of this person in the focus group...but clearly
the developers of Legacy have implemented something else. I am not yet
clear what to do to find all descendants from 1 person down. There is
not such a thing as a special search action defined. And searching on
name is also not possible as this would give me too much persons.

Rob

On 12/17/07, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> It sounds like you have chosen "entire descendant line" which picks
> up ancestors of descendants and all sorts of people. I never use the
> "entire" options as I have too many intermarriages between branches
> and end up with most of my tree. Use "Descendants"
> You may want to use the tagging option instead so you can preview who
> has been chosen - or take a look at who is in the Focus Group by
> using Search > Find > Miscellaneous Searches tab - Focus Group.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 10:34 PM 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I would like to print out family group records for one family and all
> >the descendants of this family. When I go to define a focusgroup for
> >this person, including all descendants (I have tried both option that
> >are given there) and enter that for the generation of of the family
> >group records, I get all records in the family (even when I limit the
> >number of generations to 3 when defining the focusgroup) not only the
> >one of the starting family and then 'down'. I am sure I must be doing
> >something wrong.can someone help?
> >
> >Rob
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[ronald ferguson]

Richard et al,

As this has gone on for some time I thought I may as well check it myself - 
version .168.

Using the creteria given by JLB I can confirm his results.

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> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:47:30 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> JLB, I think we are on the same page, because I am
> having the same problem as you are. I never needed
> this, but by duplicating what you said, I created the
> same non-answer. I saw Cathy state that it looks like
> a bug, as I guess she also found the same situation. I
> am waiting to hear from Robert about which version he
> is using, hoping he has a different one, because that
> means we are accurate in the problem. But I am going
> to bed now, and expect that by Pacific Time afternoon,
> we should here something meaningful as a diagnosis.
> Then we might have to wait for the next update, BUT AT
> LEAST KNOW IT REPORTED AND FOUND.
> Rich in LA CA
> --- JLB  wrote:
>
>> It should but it doesn't work here.
>>
>> Robert Carneal USA wrote:
>>> Ok, it seems to be working for me, though perhaps
>> not in the way you
>>> are thinking. I am guessing you want **marriages
>> list** to appear?
>>>
>>> I did this:
>>> Look for whom = Marriage
>>> Where to look = MRIN
>>> How to look = Less than
>>> What to look for = 100
>>>
>>> I got all the marriages from MRIN#1 to MRIN #99.
>> However, this
>>> appears in the form of a individual list. To tag
>> these marrages, do this:
>>>
>>> Follow the directions above.
>>> Click Options.
>>> Click Advanced Tagging.
>>> Tag all of them, and you have all the marriages
>> under MRIN 100 tagged.
>>> You are tagging individuals who make up MRINs of
>> less than 100.
>>>
>>> Will this do what you want?
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JLB wrote:
 I was looking for a list based on "less than"
>>  (number)

 JLB

 Robert Carneal USA wrote:
> Hmm, if I am following you, you are going to to
>> "Detailed Search"
> selecting the following:
> Look for whom = Marriage
> Where to look = MRIN
> How to look = Equal to
> What to look for = 55 (I used "55" but I am sure
>> you used something
> else. - Robert)
> This is working for me. Is this what you are
>> doing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Robert
>
> JLB wrote:
>> No, I'm trying to do a search of MRIN's using
>> Detailed Search. I ,
>> and another person, figure it's bugged.
>>
>> JLB
>>
>> Carl Cox wrote:
 I am not able to do a detailed search for
>> MRIN less
 than 100. It tells
 me there are no such records. Yes, there
>> are...
>>>
>>> I selected Marriage List, then clicked on the
>> MRIN number. So I
>>> can see (and tag if I wish) those numbers. Is
>> this what you would
>>> like to do?
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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Ron, JLB, and others
It also is confirmed with .168but, does function in (beta) .174

So maybe it is fixed and will be available next general release

Sorry
Good luck
Henry


ronald ferguson wrote:

Richard et al,

As this has gone on for some time I thought I may as well check it myself - 
version .168.

Using the creteria given by JLB I can confirm his results.

Ron Ferguson


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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:47:30 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

JLB, I think we are on the same page, because I am
having the same problem as you are. I never needed
this, but by duplicating what you said, I created the
same non-answer. I saw Cathy state that it looks like
a bug, as I guess she also found the same situation. I
am waiting to hear from Robert about which version he
is using, hoping he has a different one, because that
means we are accurate in the problem. But I am going
to bed now, and expect that by Pacific Time afternoon,
we should here something meaningful as a diagnosis.
Then we might have to wait for the next update, BUT AT
LEAST KNOW IT REPORTED AND FOUND.
Rich in LA CA
--- JLB  wrote:



It should but it doesn't work here.

Robert Carneal USA wrote:
  

Ok, it seems to be working for me, though perhaps


not in the way you
  

are thinking. I am guessing you want **marriages


list** to appear?
  

I did this:
Look for whom = Marriage
Where to look = MRIN
How to look = Less than
What to look for = 100

I got all the marriages from MRIN#1 to MRIN #99.


However, this
  

appears in the form of a individual list. To tag


these marrages, do this:
  

Follow the directions above.
Click Options.
Click Advanced Tagging.
Tag all of them, and you have all the marriages


under MRIN 100 tagged.
  

You are tagging individuals who make up MRINs of


less than 100.
  

Will this do what you want?

Robert




JLB wrote:


I was looking for a list based on "less than"
  

 (number)
  

JLB

Robert Carneal USA wrote:
  

Hmm, if I am following you, you are going to to


"Detailed Search"
  

selecting the following:
Look for whom = Marriage
Where to look = MRIN
How to look = Equal to
What to look for = 55 (I used "55" but I am sure


you used something
  

else. - Robert)
This is working for me. Is this what you are


doing?
  

Thanks.

Robert

JLB wrote:


No, I'm trying to do a search of MRIN's using
  

Detailed Search. I ,
  

and another person, figure it's bugged.

JLB

Carl Cox wrote:
  

I am not able to do a detailed search for
  

MRIN less
  

than 100. It tells
me there are no such records. Yes, there
  

are...
  

I selected Marriage List, then clicked on the


MRIN number. So I
  

can see (and tag if I wish) those numbers. Is


this what you would
  

like to do?



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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Is correct: In Beta 174 it goes OK

Bert


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From: "Henry T. Peterson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search



Ron, JLB, and others
It also is confirmed with .168but, does function in (beta) .174

So maybe it is fixed and will be available next general release

Sorry
Good luck
Henry


ronald ferguson wrote:

Richard et al,

As this has gone on for some time I thought I may as well check it 
myself - version .168.


Using the creteria given by JLB I can confirm his results.

Ron Ferguson


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Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:47:30 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

JLB, I think we are on the same page, because I am
having the same problem as you are. I never needed
this, but by duplicating what you said, I created the
same non-answer. I saw Cathy state that it looks like
a bug, as I guess she also found the same situation. I
am waiting to hear from Robert about which version he
is using, hoping he has a different one, because that
means we are accurate in the problem. But I am going
to bed now, and expect that by Pacific Time afternoon,
we should here something meaningful as a diagnosis.
Then we might have to wait for the next update, BUT AT
LEAST KNOW IT REPORTED AND FOUND.
Rich in LA CA
--- JLB  wrote:



It should but it doesn't work here.

Robert Carneal USA wrote:


Ok, it seems to be working for me, though perhaps


not in the way you


are thinking. I am guessing you want **marriages


list** to appear?


I did this:
Look for whom = Marriage
Where to look = MRIN
How to look = Less than
What to look for = 100

I got all the marriages from MRIN#1 to MRIN #99.


However, this


appears in the form of a individual list. To tag


these marrages, do this:


Follow the directions above.
Click Options.
Click Advanced Tagging.
Tag all of them, and you have all the marriages


under MRIN 100 tagged.


You are tagging individuals who make up MRINs of


less than 100.


Will this do what you want?

Robert




JLB wrote:


I was looking for a list based on "less than"


 (number)


JLB

Robert Carneal USA wrote:


Hmm, if I am following you, you are going to to


"Detailed Search"


selecting the following:
Look for whom = Marriage
Where to look = MRIN
How to look = Equal to
What to look for = 55 (I used "55" but I am sure


you used something


else. - Robert)
This is working for me. Is this what you are


doing?


Thanks.

Robert

JLB wrote:


No, I'm trying to do a search of MRIN's using


Detailed Search. I ,


and another person, figure it's bugged.

JLB

Carl Cox wrote:


I am not able to do a detailed search for


MRIN less


than 100. It tells
me there are no such records. Yes, there


are...


I selected Marriage List, then clicked on the


MRIN number. So I


can see (and tag if I wish) those numbers. Is


this what you would


like to do?



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RE: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Don Brown]

I have duplicated this problem in "Detailed Search" using the latest build
(.168). I get the same message that no records found for the criteria
selected. It doesn't matter whether it is RIN or MRIN being used for the
where to look

-- 
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:46 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search
> 
> For about the third time, I am searching a list of MRIN numbers in
> detailed search, not the marriage list.  Is anyone actually reading the
> thread?
> 
> JLB
> 
> Robert Carneal USA wrote:
> > Ok, it seems to be working for me, though perhaps not in the way you
> > are thinking. I am guessing you want **marriages list** to appear?
> >
> > I did this:
> > Look for whom =  Marriage
> > Where to look = MRIN
> > How to look = Less than
> > What to look for = 100
> >
> > I got all the marriages from MRIN#1 to MRIN  #99. However, this
> > appears in the form of a individual list. To tag these marrages, do
> this:
> >
> > Follow the directions above.
> > Click Options.
> > Click Advanced Tagging.
> > Tag all of them, and you have all the marriages under MRIN 100
> tagged.
> > You are tagging individuals who make up MRINs of less than 100.
> >
> > Will this do what you want?
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > JLB wrote:
> >> I was looking for a list based on "less than"  (number)
> >>
> >> JLB
> >>
> >> Robert Carneal USA wrote:
> >>> Hmm,  if I am following you, you are going to to "Detailed Search"
> >>> selecting the following:
> >>> Look for whom =  Marriage
> >>> Where to look = MRIN
> >>> How to look = Equal to
> >>> What to look for = 55 (I used "55" but I am sure you used something
> >>> else. - Robert)
> >>> This is working for me. Is this what you are doing?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>>
> >>> JLB wrote:
>  No, I'm trying to do a search of MRIN's using Detailed Search.  I
> ,
>  and another person, figure it's bugged.
> 
>  JLB
> 
>  Carl Cox wrote:
> >> I am not able to do a detailed search for MRIN less
> >> than 100.  It tells
> >> me there are no such records.  Yes, there are...
> >
> > I selected Marriage List, then clicked on the MRIN number. So I
> > can see (and tag if I wish) those numbers. Is this what you would
> > like to do?





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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Susan Daily]

I still have version 6.0.0.155 and WAS able to search MRIN less than 100 to
get those 100 marriages listed in the search results. So probably is the
case with Robert.

Susan


On 12/17/07, RICHARD SCHULTHIES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am waiting to hear from Robert about which version he
> is using, hoping he has a different one, because that
> means we are accurate in the problem.

On 12/15/07, JLB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am not able to do a detailed search for MRIN less than 100.  It tells
> me there are no such records.  Yes, there are...
>
> Is anyone able to duplicate this?
>
> JLB
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Brian/Support]

Problem report submitted to programmers.
As stated elsewhere in this thread, the beta release is working but I 
found three defects in the General Release 6.0.0.168


1. MRIN search returns no records.
2. Individual Search by RIN returns no records.
3. When looking at the choices for How to Look for Individual RIN the 
list seems to be the list used for dates not for RIN. My list was Equal 
to, Before, After, Not Equal to and Contains.


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JLB wrote:
I am not able to do a detailed search for MRIN less than 100.  It tells 
me there are no such records.  Yes, there are...


Is anyone able to duplicate this?

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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Robert Carneal USA]

Susan-

I just checked. You nailed it.  Thanks.

Robert

Susan Daily wrote:
I still have version 6.0.0.155  and WAS able to 
search MRIN less than 100 to get those 100 marriages listed in the 
search results. So probably is the case with Robert.
 
Susan


 
On 12/17/07, *RICHARD SCHULTHIES* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


I am waiting to hear from Robert about which version he
is using, hoping he has a different one, because that
means we are accurate in the problem. 


On 12/15/07, *JLB* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

I am not able to do a detailed search for MRIN less than 100.  It
tells
me there are no such records.  Yes, there are...

Is anyone able to duplicate this?

JLB





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Re: [LegacyUG] Search Criteria?

[Susan Perrett]

Thank you for this recipe! I will try it out as well as Cathy's.

Will definitely keep on file for further reference.

Cheers,


At 05:34 PM 17/12/2007, you wrote:

OR
Tag everyone. (T3)
search for, living, untag them.
Search for T3
search for will, untag them.
search for T3
search for surname not equal to Johnson? untag them
search for T3
You can do all three at once using AND AND. This will
leave all dead Johnsons with no will.
You will have to look individually to check if these
ever reach adulthood, meaning they might have one, or
intestate. If dead as child, remove T3.
This should do a substantial pruning of the group.
Cathy is correct, but using this might get 95% pruned.
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[LegacyUG] Reports

[Art Seddon]

Is there a report that will print more than one photo in an event?

Art Seddon



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RE: [LegacyUG] Reports

[ronald ferguson]

Art,

I'm afraid not. You can, of course, add additional pictures by using a word 
processor such as MS Word or Open Office. Legacy will only select the picture 
with the asterisk against it.

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> Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:56:21 -0800
>
> Is there a report that will print more than one photo in an event?
>
> Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Reports

[Cathy]

Hi Art,
No.
You need to add extra events and attach the photos to those.
eg Photo Event - use the Description or Notes to describe the photo.

Cathy

At 09:56 AM 18/12/2007, you wrote:


Is there a report that will print more than one photo in an event?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Want all family Group Records for a person and his descendants

[Cathy]

Hi Rob,
The Descendant options for tagging and focus groups give you two options.
The first does what you ask.

The second gives the Entire line - which, as it explains, includes 
the ancestors of people picked up in the descendancy and their 
descendants as well - designed to pick up everyone relevant to that 
branch of the family. It works well unless you have marriages between branches.


Cathy

At 05:26 PM 17/12/2007, you wrote:


Yes, the outcome clearly shows that when I choose a person and the
(entire) descendant list you are right. But as an Innocent user I
would expect that when I pick a person and the descendant list that I
get the descendants of this person in the focus group...but clearly
the developers of Legacy have implemented something else. I am not yet
clear what to do to find all descendants from 1 person down. There is
not such a thing as a special search action defined. And searching on
name is also not possible as this would give me too much persons.

Rob

On 12/17/07, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> It sounds like you have chosen "entire descendant line" which picks
> up ancestors of descendants and all sorts of people. I never use the
> "entire" options as I have too many intermarriages between branches
> and end up with most of my tree. Use "Descendants"
> You may want to use the tagging option instead so you can preview who
> has been chosen - or take a look at who is in the Focus Group by
> using Search > Find > Miscellaneous Searches tab - Focus Group.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 10:34 PM 16/12/2007, you wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I would like to print out family group records for one family and all
> >the descendants of this family. When I go to define a focusgroup for
> >this person, including all descendants (I have tried both option that
> >are given there) and enter that for the generation of of the family
> >group records, I get all records in the family (even when I limit the
> >number of generations to 3 when defining the focusgroup) not only the
> >one of the starting family and then 'down'. I am sure I must be doing
> >something wrong.can someone help?
> >
> >Rob





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RE: [LegacyUG] Reports

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Or you can scan multiple pictures into one 'big' one,
not quick or easy, but creating a page for a book,
might be worth the trouble. You would then make it
into 'one' page size photo.
Rich in LA CA
--- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Art,
> 
> I'm afraid not. You can, of course, add additional
> pictures by using a word processor such as MS Word
> or Open Office. Legacy will only select the picture
> with the asterisk against it.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> 
>
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> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Reports
> > Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:56:21 -0800
> >
> > Is there a report that will print more than one
> photo in an event?
> >
> > Art Seddon
> >
> 
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Newsgroup Etiquette - was Hollerith

[Gary Templeman]

And I totally disagree. I have a full time job and already get upwards of 
100 emails a day. If I wanted to wade through multiple messages of people's 
reminiscing I would join a reminiscing list. We need to think of a mailing 
list more like a big room full of people discussing a specific topic. In 
those circumstances, those who want to engage in a conversation that is not 
of interest to the entire group will whisper to each other in private or 
have a small group discussion off to the side. If we were all in one room 
discussing Legacy issues no one would be shouting out their computer stories 
to the entire group.


There are still places in the world where people have to pay by the minute 
for their Internet connection, or have slow dial-up connections. It seems 
very inconsiderate to subject those folks to multiple off-topic messages 
that they need to waste their time and money on. At the very least, clearly 
label the message thread as something off-topic so it can be easily filtered 
out by those who have neither the time or desire to read the fluff.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Element" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Hollerith



Beautifully said, Bill.

I like these lists as I get to hear other people stories   Love 
it!!



Tom

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill 
Hardy

Sent: Sunday, 16 December 2007 7:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Hollerith

  I have been a LUG member for sometime. I have not been a contributor,
only a watcher and listener At my age (80) I feel that the less said the
better.
  However with regard to the afore mentioned off subject letters about
computers, which I suppose should be kept within limits, I say to those
who complain:
These experiences are the very meat of the things you are so hung up
about with your grandfathers and great grandfathers. Twenty years from
now your children and grandchildren will be scurrying around to find
such things about their ancestors.
  During this whole thing I have not read one word of anger,
vituperativeness, berating or vulgarity, only a little reliving of some
good memories.
  Genealogists are your priorities only on 100 year old statistics?

   Merry Christmas!, My some of the good memories you record be your own.






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Re: [LegacyUG] mrin search

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

I am using V.155 and I get a good list of individuals.
MRIN less than 5; get 8 individuals.
MRIN less than 6; get 10 individuals.
MRIN less than 11; get 20 individuals.
MRIN less than 100; get big list, guessing about 198 individuals.
--
Richard Van Wasshnova
Seal Beach, CA

- Original Message - 
From: "JLB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] mrin search


I am not able to do a detailed search for MRIN less than 100.  It tells 
me there are no such records.  Yes, there are...


Is anyone able to duplicate this?

JLB
http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/






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