Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-19 Thread tamieh
Thank you so much Michele!  This is how I have started doing it as well!  I 
may very well contact you off list if that is ok.  Looks as if we do a lot 
of things similar!  And I am sure I will have more questions for you!


- Original Message - 
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


I used to be a die hard lumper.  I only had one source for the 1900 census 
(for example).  However, with the new Sourcewriter I have been forced to 
become a splitter :) :) :)  Here is what my source list looks like...


Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900
Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave)
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880
Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 (mortality)
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave)
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860
Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800
Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810

This of course is just a small snippet.  I have them organized this way so 
that I can find my master source quickly.


- Original Message - 
From: tamieh tam...@sfcn.org

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages



Michele --- I have a question for you.  I know this has been addressed on
this list before -- so sorry for asking again.

But I too transcribe census records as you do.  How do you list them in 
your
master source list?  Do you list each census seperately or put all the 
1900

Census records under a 1900 census listing?

Thanks for your input!
Tamie


- Original Message - 
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I 
really

pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship
etc)

Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)...

Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born 
in

GA
Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write
Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS
Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS
Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS
Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS
Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS
Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS


Or a later census (1930)...
Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42,
married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both
parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule
Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, 
able

to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English
Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write,
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, 
logging

[2nd word unreadable]
Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write,
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm
Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this
year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, 
speaks

English
Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended 
school

this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS,
speaks English
Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents
born in MS, speaks English
Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents
born in MS, speaks English


I copy the event and add it to each person listed.  When you run a 
report

it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice
progression of what happened in their life.  They start out living with
their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then
sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life.  You don't 
see

it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census.

It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort.  Another 
thing,
as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking 
at
transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again 
and

have to re-analyze it.  Or course if there is ever a question I can pull
the census page up easily.

Michele

Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages

2009-02-15 Thread tamieh
Michele --- I have a question for you.  I know this has been addressed on 
this list before -- so sorry for asking again.


But I too transcribe census records as you do.  How do you list them in your 
master source list?  Do you list each census seperately or put all the 1900 
Census records under a 1900 census listing?


Thanks for your input!
Tamie


- Original Message - 
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages


I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really 
pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship 
etc)


Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)...

Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in 
GA

Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write
Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS
Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS
Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS
Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS
Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS
Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS


Or a later census (1930)...
Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, 
married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both 
parents born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule
Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able 
to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English
Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, 
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging 
[2nd word unreadable]
Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, 
born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm
Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this 
year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks 
English
Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school 
this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, 
speaks English
Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents 
born in MS, speaks English
Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents 
born in MS, speaks English



I copy the event and add it to each person listed.  When you run a report 
it will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice 
progression of what happened in their life.  They start out living with 
their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then 
sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life.  You don't see 
it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census.


It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort.  Another thing, 
as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at 
transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and 
have to re-analyze it.  Or course if there is ever a question I can pull 
the census page up easily.


Michele





- Original Message - 
From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages




Michele,

I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish 
to have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no 
intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to 
include transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do 
include pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of 
publishing English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice,


For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for 
for my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never 
dreamt of including census transcripts. In effect the information is 
already there in the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript 
would merely duplicate this.


Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things.


Ron Ferguson

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From: cranberryf...@charter.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500

What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments 
in

[ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the
transcribed 

Re: [LegacyUG] search and replace ?

2008-10-22 Thread tamieh
You are pretty quick to pick up on info  Let me see if I can explain 
it clearly --- I am quite anal about my sources


What I currently have on some of my master sources are (from my early days! 
before I knew better) I have Death Certificate -- Mary Selby and then 
under the text of source tab I have transcribed the actual death 
certificate.  See?  Pretty Anal hunh?


What I actually want to do is to have the master source cite Death 
Certificate and then have Mary Kinnard appear under source detail and the 
transcribed portion of the death certificate to appear under the detail 
text tab.


This is going to be difficult for me to go thru and change each one 
individually since I have used the death certificates to source/cite burial 
place, death date, parents names, birth date, and I even use it for an event 
for the person who was the informant for the death certificate.


Does that help to clarify why a search and replace here would be soo 
nice???


Tamie


- Original Message - 
From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] search and replace ?



Ahem ...  I'm still waiting to find out what the OP meant by 'info'.
In the case of BMD's, depending where they come from, they may include a 
text rendition, starting with the person's name and then a tidy column 
listing everything else, in which case I copy and paste the entire thing 
into Source Detail.  I also clean up and link the original image.  If the 
name is different than other variations found elsewhere I most likely make 
a note of that under Comments.


What I was imagining when OP said 'info' was perhaps just putting the 
name - I dunno, just because - which did, and still does, seem redundant.

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Jenny M Benson wrote:


JLB wrote
You don't need to put the person's name into the Source Detail field. 
The source is already attached to each relevant person.


I would take issue with that!

Quite apart from any other reason, it makes for consistency with other 
Sources where you do need to quote the relevant name.  For example, you 
might use a Christening Record as a Source for a parent's name, so the 
Citation would include the name of the person being Christened.


Also, you should cite the record exactly as it is, which may include 
variations of spelling or a transcription error or other mistake.  For 
example, my tree includes individuals with the middle name Merrison, but 
many of the BMD Indexes record this name as Morrison, so I cite either 
Merrison or Morrison, whichever is written there.  (I *think* e is 
correct and o incorrect, but not sure.)


If you are following the dictates of Elizabeth Shown Mills (not saying 
you necessarily *should*!) you will include the individual's name in the 
citation, at least in BMDs.




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