Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot Get FTP to Work for Created Web Pages

2009-10-09 Thread Lorraine
Thank you, Ward, for your reply. I had not realized that Google was not
appropriate. Ron Ferguson just advised me of that, too. I wish the various
FAQs had some of that info in them; I wouldn't feel nearly as
computer-inadequate :)

Regards,
Lorraine

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:

>  Lorraine,
>
> I also considered Google Sites recently (as I had to migrate some pages
> from the defunct GeoCities). After some digging, I discovered that there is
> no way to upload more than one page at a time to Google Sites. Thus it is
> not suitable for a family tree.
>
> After investigating a few other free web hosting sites, I decided to pay a
> small annual fee for a paid web hosting site (www.FatCow.com). There are
> many others to choose from, and several sites are dedicated just to
> reviewing them. One bonus is that you can be registered for one domain name
> as part of the deal. Sites like this are designed so that people
> knowledgeable about web servers can use the raw tools, but there are also
> some user-friendly tools to automate common tasks. For access control,
> rather than having to invite people, like with Google Sites, you can create
> passwords for files and folders.
>
> Good luck.
>
>Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Lorraine 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 1:27 PM
> *Subject:* [Bulk] [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Cannot Get FTP to Work for Created
> Web Pages
>
> Hi, listers,
>
> I have searched already the help, tip, user archives to help me get the
> exact help I need, but am just not getting it right. Perhaps it is a
> misunderstanding of the differences between "host,"  "ISP," and "website."
> As I spent some hours yesterday trying to do it again, I am feeling very
> frustrated and hope someone can give me step-by-step pointers. I want to
> place this family tree on a website that is both free and has
> invitation-only access, because it has many living people in it, and I want
> the other family members from this side of the family that is not documented
> to collaborate freely on adding their own data and pictures, as well as
> information about their/our direct ancestors. I have a family tree for my
> line up at Ancestry as a public tree, because those lines deal with people
> not living.
>
> My Legacy "create web pages" works just fine. I think. When I first tried
> to do this some months ago (yes, I am starting from the beginning, again), I
> set up an account with my provider, Cox Cable, for web space. Then I
> discovered that I couldn't trust that it would be completely private and it
> had little space available, and I deleted the account. For the short time it
> was up, I could get the FTP to work.
>
> I am using the Firefox FTP, because Mozilla Firefox is my web browser. I
> have already set up an empty private web site at
> http://sites.google.com/site/ that seems to be just what I needed. I
> think. But then I could not connect to the site using the FTP. I ended up
> deleting the add-on FTP, reinstalling it, deleting the account for the FTP,
> re-setting it up. Nothing works. All I get is "unable to connect." I was
> trying various versions of the website address as the host in the account,
> both with the complete web address name and with only the root address:
> http://sites.google.com/site/. Am I missing a complete step here?
>
> Do I need to first go through the service provider Cox to *get* to the host
> website at Google, or is the "website" not the "host"? I really hope someone
> can help this unsavvy-in-tech user!!! I have followed the steps in the helps
> from Google sites,  from Firefox FTP, and from Legacy. It must be easy,
> right? Or so many people could not be doing it successfully. What am I
> missing?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lorraine
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cannot Get FTP to Work for Created Web Pages

2009-10-09 Thread Ward Walker
Lorraine,

I also considered Google Sites recently (as I had to migrate some pages from 
the defunct GeoCities). After some digging, I discovered that there is no way 
to upload more than one page at a time to Google Sites. Thus it is not suitable 
for a family tree.

After investigating a few other free web hosting sites, I decided to pay a 
small annual fee for a paid web hosting site (www.FatCow.com). There are many 
others to choose from, and several sites are dedicated just to reviewing them. 
One bonus is that you can be registered for one domain name as part of the 
deal. Sites like this are designed so that people knowledgeable about web 
servers can use the raw tools, but there are also some user-friendly tools to 
automate common tasks. For access control, rather than having to invite people, 
like with Google Sites, you can create passwords for files and folders.

Good luck.

   Ward
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lorraine 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:27 PM
  Subject: [Bulk] [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Cannot Get FTP to Work for Created Web 
Pages


  Hi, listers,

  I have searched already the help, tip, user archives to help me get the exact 
help I need, but am just not getting it right. Perhaps it is a misunderstanding 
of the differences between "host,"  "ISP," and "website." As I spent some hours 
yesterday trying to do it again, I am feeling very frustrated and hope someone 
can give me step-by-step pointers. I want to place this family tree on a 
website that is both free and has invitation-only access, because it has many 
living people in it, and I want the other family members from this side of the 
family that is not documented to collaborate freely on adding their own data 
and pictures, as well as information about their/our direct ancestors. I have a 
family tree for my line up at Ancestry as a public tree, because those lines 
deal with people not living.

  My Legacy "create web pages" works just fine. I think. When I first tried to 
do this some months ago (yes, I am starting from the beginning, again), I set 
up an account with my provider, Cox Cable, for web space. Then I discovered 
that I couldn't trust that it would be completely private and it had little 
space available, and I deleted the account. For the short time it was up, I 
could get the FTP to work.

  I am using the Firefox FTP, because Mozilla Firefox is my web browser. I have 
already set up an empty private web site at http://sites.google.com/site/ that 
seems to be just what I needed. I think. But then I could not connect to the 
site using the FTP. I ended up deleting the add-on FTP, reinstalling it, 
deleting the account for the FTP, re-setting it up. Nothing works. All I get is 
"unable to connect." I was trying various versions of the website address as 
the host in the account, both with the complete web address name and with only 
the root address: http://sites.google.com/site/. Am I missing a complete step 
here?

  Do I need to first go through the service provider Cox to *get* to the host 
website at Google, or is the "website" not the "host"? I really hope someone 
can help this unsavvy-in-tech user!!! I have followed the steps in the helps 
from Google sites,  from Firefox FTP, and from Legacy. It must be easy, right? 
Or so many people could not be doing it successfully. What am I missing?

  Thanks in advance,
  Lorraine





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