Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
To all on this Dropbox thread: I am watching this topic for two reasons: I am interested in Dropbox and I am also contemplating a new computer. Right now I am using XP and I know if I buy a new computer, it will have Vista. I am wondering if Jim's problem might have to do with the fact that he is running XP on one computer and Vista on the other? Is anyone else using Dropbox in this scenario and, if so, how is it working? Dede Holden On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:47 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > I found this problem, when on my old Windows 3.1 CPU, if I left it running > overnight, and decided my mainframe got confused after too much > 'calculating', meaning too many big reports without logging off/restarting so > I got used to turning it off every night, and have continued with my laptop > for no reason. I was told way back, that computers each have a finite number > of times to turn on and off before they die. I am backed up, if I need to buy > a new one (hope I am not infuriating any gremlins). > Rich in LA CA > > --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Erin Bradshaw wrote: > >> From: Erin Bradshaw >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:32 AM >> I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on >> desktop and laptop). I have never encountered error 91. I >> have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed >> that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong). But since I was >> not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true. >> Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet. >> >> Erin >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DimJim" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days >> >> >> Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked >> 100% for me. >> The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP >> & 1 VISTA >> 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. >> From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. >> It was >> immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my >> VISTA machine. >> Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - >> "Error >> opening data base" >> "Run-time error '91': >> Object variable or With block variable not set" >> It then closes the Legacy program. >> This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. >> Then it >> will open almost normally. This behavior happens no >> whether I open >> Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or >> if I try >> to start Legacy from the start program. >> This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it >> doesn't make >> any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then >> immediately >> opened on the same machine or the other machine. >> One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options >> > Customize > >> Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family >> File and then >> save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the >> .fdb file >> in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under >> Options > >> Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family >> File >> Automatically. >> Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other >> problem before >> using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my >> flash >> driver forth and back between the two machines. >> Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might >> shed >> additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time >> error 91 issue. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore >> wrote: >> > Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox >> discussion, as it >> > pertains to the Legacy data file. >> > >> > Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my >> Legacy file on my >> > laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the >> reverse. No copying to a >> > thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not >> even the trouble of >> > moving a file, via the home network, from one machine >> to the other. Just >> > seamless, effortless synchronization. >> > >> > Ditto for media files. >> > >> > Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
I found this problem, when on my old Windows 3.1 CPU, if I left it running overnight, and decided my mainframe got confused after too much 'calculating', meaning too many big reports without logging off/restarting so I got used to turning it off every night, and have continued with my laptop for no reason. I was told way back, that computers each have a finite number of times to turn on and off before they die. I am backed up, if I need to buy a new one (hope I am not infuriating any gremlins). Rich in LA CA --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Erin Bradshaw wrote: > From: Erin Bradshaw > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:32 AM > I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on > desktop and laptop). I have never encountered error 91. I > have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed > that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong). But since I was > not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true. > Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet. > > Erin > > - Original Message - From: "DimJim" > > To: > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days > > > Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked > 100% for me. > The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP > & 1 VISTA > 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. > From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. > It was > immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my > VISTA machine. > Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - > "Error > opening data base" > "Run-time error '91': > Object variable or With block variable not set" > It then closes the Legacy program. > This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. > Then it > will open almost normally. This behavior happens no > whether I open > Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or > if I try > to start Legacy from the start program. > This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it > doesn't make > any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then > immediately > opened on the same machine or the other machine. > One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > > Customize > > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family > File and then > save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the > .fdb file > in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under > Options > > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family > File > Automatically. > Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other > problem before > using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my > flash > driver forth and back between the two machines. > Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might > shed > additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time > error 91 issue. > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore > wrote: > > Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox > discussion, as it > > pertains to the Legacy data file. > > > > Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my > Legacy file on my > > laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the > reverse. No copying to a > > thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not > even the trouble of > > moving a file, via the home network, from one machine > to the other. Just > > seamless, effortless synchronization. > > > > Ditto for media files. > > > > Janis > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Kathy, Janis and all, Thanks for all the thoughts, suggestions and concerns. Since my original note, I have deleted all the files in DropBox, then copied all the files from C/Legacy7/Data to DropBox - no joy - still erratic. Sometimes it will open and then again it takes several tries before Legacy will start. THEN I deleted all of those files from DropBox, opened Legacy (always works with no prob when DropBox is empty) and opened my main dbf file, then from Legacy I "saved-as" with a new file name directly to the Legacy folder within DropBox. Still the same erratic behavior ~ sometimes I get the Runtime Error 91 and it shuts down and then again it will open correctly. Same behavior, both machines. I'm going to uninstall DropBox and then restart both machines before I install LB again. Then I will "save-as" from Legacy with my main fdb file, to LB with a new file name. If that doesn't work. off to the saloon ;-) or ~ maybe I'll login to the users forum at DropBox On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kathy Cardoza wrote: > Janis & DimJim > > I'm sure you are absolutely right, Janis! Very astute of you. I totally > zoned out on that and didn't take notice of it. Yes, DimJim, I think that > might be the problem as Legacy needs all its files in order to work > properly. > > When I first started using Dropbox, I selected all files within Legacy/Data > and copied them into a new folder at DropBox/Legacy Data and it has worked > flawlessly for me. I chose to name that new folder differently, instead of > just copying over the Data folder from within Legacy, so that I could EASILY > tell if the location chosen for backups and data saves was indeed my new > folder in Dropbox and not the default Data folder in Legacyjust to make > it easier and more obvious to me so I could tell at a glance. > > So, DimJim, if you're not totally soured on Dropbox, you could try again. > First, though, make sure your file is in good shape, healthy, and opening > from its default location in Legacy. Then try doing either as I did or just > copying over your Data folder to your Dropbox. Hopefully, you will get > better results. > > Kathy > > On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: > >> DimJim & Kathy, >> >> Kathy, is this because he didn't put the whole Legacy data folder in >> DropBox? >> >> Janis >> >> >> On 2/13/09 10:39 AM, "DimJim" wrote: >> >>> Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. >>> The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA >>> 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. >>> From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was >>> immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. >>> Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error >>> opening data base" >>> "Run-time error '91': >>> Object variable or With block variable not set" >>> It then closes the Legacy program. >>> This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it >>> will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open >>> Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try >>> to start Legacy from the start program. >>> This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make >>> any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately >>> opened on the same machine or the other machine. >>> One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > >>> Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then >>> save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file >>> in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > >>> Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File >>> Automatically. >>> Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before >>> using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash >>> driver forth and back between the two machines. >>> Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed >>> additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore >>> wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis >>> >>> > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamily
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
I am using Legacy v. 7.0.0.81 and DropBox on Windows XP (on desktop and laptop). I have never encountered error 91. I have delayed updating to .86 because I thought I noticed that err. 91 started then (I may be wrong). But since I was not having that problem decided to stay with tried and true. Also I have no media in my Legacy program yet. Erin - Original Message - From: "DimJim" To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error opening data base" "Run-time error '91': Object variable or With block variable not set" It then closes the Legacy program. This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try to start Legacy from the start program. This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately opened on the same machine or the other machine. One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File Automatically. Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash driver forth and back between the two machines. Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Kathy, Thank you for the response. You have been so helpful and answered all my questions. Thank you, beyond words for the intro to Dropbox. (I removed some of your response and all of my question - to shorten this email.) Erin - Original Message - From: "Kathy Cardoza" To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days Hi Erin I know you addressed your question to Janis, but I thought I'd jump in anyway, with a possible answer for you... Dropbox, the free part of it, only allows you to have 2GB of space so you will want to keep that in mind when you decide on what files to put in your Dropbox. To sync my genealogy files, I needed more space than that, so I bit the bullet and paid for the extra space. Anyway, I now keep my entire Surnames folder in my Dropbox. That way, I can Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Janis & DimJim I'm sure you are absolutely right, Janis! Very astute of you. I totally zoned out on that and didn't take notice of it. Yes, DimJim, I think that might be the problem as Legacy needs all its files in order to work properly. When I first started using Dropbox, I selected all files within Legacy/ Data and copied them into a new folder at DropBox/Legacy Data and it has worked flawlessly for me. I chose to name that new folder differently, instead of just copying over the Data folder from within Legacy, so that I could EASILY tell if the location chosen for backups and data saves was indeed my new folder in Dropbox and not the default Data folder in Legacyjust to make it easier and more obvious to me so I could tell at a glance. So, DimJim, if you're not totally soured on Dropbox, you could try again. First, though, make sure your file is in good shape, healthy, and opening from its default location in Legacy. Then try doing either as I did or just copying over your Data folder to your Dropbox. Hopefully, you will get better results. Kathy On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: DimJim & Kathy, Kathy, is this because he didn't put the whole Legacy data folder in DropBox? Janis On 2/13/09 10:39 AM, "DimJim" wrote: Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error opening data base" "Run-time error '91': Object variable or With block variable not set" It then closes the Legacy program. This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try to start Legacy from the start program. This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately opened on the same machine or the other machine. One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File Automatically. Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash driver forth and back between the two machines. Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore > wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
DimJim & Kathy, Kathy, is this because he didn't put the whole Legacy data folder in DropBox? Janis On 2/13/09 10:39 AM, "DimJim" wrote: > Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. > The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA > 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. > From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was > immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. > Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error > opening data base" > "Run-time error '91': > Object variable or With block variable not set" > It then closes the Legacy program. > This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it > will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open > Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try > to start Legacy from the start program. > This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make > any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately > opened on the same machine or the other machine. > One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then > save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file > in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File > Automatically. > Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before > using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash > driver forth and back between the two machines. > Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed > additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore > wrote: >> Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it >> pertains to the Legacy data file. >> >> Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my >> laptop, it updates my file on my desktop and the reverse. No copying to a >> thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of >> moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just >> seamless, effortless synchronization. >> >> Ditto for media files. >> >> Janis >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Jim I'm truly sorry that Dropbox hasn't worked for you. I'm not at all familiar (lucky me!) with that Run-time error 91 problem. Perhaps someone else with more knowledge of that can better help you? Dropbox WILL work, I know that. I'm not very knowledgeable about XP and Vista. I use XP on both my computers from within my Mac, using a virtualization program. Even that doesn't confuse Dropbox, LOL. I have Legacy set to open the last file I worked in. If it turns out, I don't want that one after all, I simply close the file and choose Open Family File to find the one I want. All my FDB files are stored in the same folder in Dropbox. Are you allowing enough time for the syncing/updating to complete before you try to open the file on your other computer? Be sure to wait until you see the green check mark that indicates the file has synced completely. On my setup, that is pretty instantaneous, but that would depend on the size of your file and, more importantly, the speed of your internet connection as that is how the data gets synced. Kathy On Feb 13, 2009, at 7:39 AM, DimJim wrote: Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error opening data base" "Run-time error '91': Object variable or With block variable not set" It then closes the Legacy program. This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try to start Legacy from the start program. This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately opened on the same machine or the other machine. One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File Automatically. Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash driver forth and back between the two machines. Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore > wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Janis I have a lot of photos on my computer about 4,000..but that isn't what I'm storing on Dropbox that takes up so much room. In the past, I have taken (a considerable amount of time) to scan in every single genealogy document I have into my computer. Am I a nut, or what? LOL Those are organized and saved into my Surnames folder. I did high quality scans of each document so that I can print up a quality copy later, if I choose to. I like the idea of having both paper and digitized copies of documents. The digitized ones are backed up onto an external hard drive that lives in our fireproof safe. So,THAT comprises the largest part of my Dropbox. On Feb 13, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: Kathy and Erin, I somehow missed Erin's email (one occasionally hits the Junk Mail folder - I try to watch for that). Erin, Kathy has answered your question much more thoroughly than I could have. She is way ahead of me on the curve on that. Kathy, you must have an enormous database or a lot of photos stored in DropBox. I have two databases in itk one of around 4,000 individuals, and one with perhaps 1,000. I also have a small photo folder (still called "Photos for TMG" - an artifact from my years on TMG), which links to my Legacy files. They are fairly small photos, however, and not my primary photo file, which resides on the desktop and LaCie drive. In addition to those, I have a couple of my most current working Word documents in DropBox, so that they are handy to either computer. And a few other minor zipped backups. I am still on the free version of DropBox, and with those items, have used only 9% of my storage space. (FYI for Erin.) Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Well mercy sakes Dropbox just hasn't worked 100% for me. The Dropbox program is installed on each computer (1 XP & 1 VISTA 64bit), both using the same build of Legacy7 Dlx. >From the XP 'puter, I copied my .fdb file to Dropbox. It was immediately copied to Dropbox server and appeared on my VISTA machine. Now, each time I open Legacy I get the dreaded Error 91 - "Error opening data base" "Run-time error '91': Object variable or With block variable not set" It then closes the Legacy program. This happens approximately ever other time I open Legacy. Then it will open almost normally. This behavior happens no whether I open Legacy by double clicking the file in the DropBox folder or if I try to start Legacy from the start program. This happens on both the XP and the VISTA machine and it doesn't make any difference whether the Legacy file was closed and then immediately opened on the same machine or the other machine. One other "strange" thing ~ if I set the Options > Customize > Starting File > to Always Prompt for Starting Family File and then save that setting... the next time I start Legacy, the .fdb file in the LockBox folder is the one used and the setting under Options > Customize will have been reset to Open Last Used Family File Automatically. Never had the dreaded Run-Time error 91 or any other problem before using LockBox and will probably need to return to toting my flash driver forth and back between the two machines. Thought I'd post this problem in the hope that it might shed additional light on what is going on with the Run-Time error 91 issue. On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: > Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it > pertains to the Legacy data file. > > Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my > laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a > thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of > moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just > seamless, effortless synchronization. > > Ditto for media files. > > Janis > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Kathy and Erin, I somehow missed Erin's email (one occasionally hits the Junk Mail folder - I try to watch for that). Erin, Kathy has answered your question much more thoroughly than I could have. She is way ahead of me on the curve on that. Kathy, you must have an enormous database or a lot of photos stored in DropBox. I have two databases in itk one of around 4,000 individuals, and one with perhaps 1,000. I also have a small photo folder (still called "Photos for TMG" - an artifact from my years on TMG), which links to my Legacy files. They are fairly small photos, however, and not my primary photo file, which resides on the desktop and LaCie drive. In addition to those, I have a couple of my most current working Word documents in DropBox, so that they are handy to either computer. And a few other minor zipped backups. I am still on the free version of DropBox, and with those items, have used only 9% of my storage space. (FYI for Erin.) Janis On 2/13/09 9:57 AM, "Kathy Cardoza" wrote: > Hi Erin > > I know you addressed your question to Janis, but I thought I'd jump in > anyway, with a possible answer for you... > > Dropbox, the free part of it, only allows you to have 2GB of space so > you will want to keep that in mind when you decide on what files to > put in your Dropbox. To sync my genealogy files, I needed more space > than that, so I bit the bullet and paid for the extra space. Anyway, I > now keep my entire Surnames folder in my Dropbox. That way, I can link > to any file like a census, from within Legacy, and that link will be > preserved on the other computer I am using, as well. Any additions I > make to the files in my Surname folder (like a newly found and > downloaded census from Ancestry, for example) will be accessible to me > for addition into Legacy from EITHER compute I choose to use. I keep > my photos separately on my computer. Using a Mac, they all go into a > program called iPhoto, which, unfortunately, stores its database in > one large file and likes to look for that in a certain place on the > computer. So, moving that to Dropbox won't work as iPhoto does not see > it there. So, what I did was to export only those photo images that I > wanted to see and use in Legacy. I put them in Legacy's Pictures > folder which now resides in my Dropbox. Again, these images are > viewable from within Legacy from either computer I use. > > I am not sure if you can have Dropbox on an external drive and have it > work for you. I guess you can try it with a small amount of files as a > test. If it doesn't work as you want, then move Dropbox to the hard > drive of your computer (likely to be C Drive)and that definitely WILL > work. It all just depends on the size of your Dropbox (2 GB or more?) > and the size of hard drive (available capacity) of both of your > computers that will help determine what will work best for you. > > I hope this answered your question? > > Oh, BTW, the upload may take a long time, if you transfer a large > amount of data into your Dropbox like I did. Mine was about 8GB and > that took 24 hours!!! I don't know if that slow speed is the fault of > Dropbox or my internet speed on my end, which does fluctuate, > especially upload speed. I could still use the computer during that > time and it eventually did get it all synced up between both > computers. It just took a while for that initial sync. But, it is > s worth it! Now, when I make a change, it's instantaneous like you > would expect. I think this is a TOTALLY AWESOME way to sync whatever > files you want to be able to use on both computers and keep synced. I > use it for other similar files, as well. > > Kathy > > On Feb 12, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Erin Bradshaw wrote: > >> DropBox, after using for a few daysJanis, >> >> Just a small question. You said "Ditto for media files". Does that >> mean that on your Desktop and Laptop your media files are in the >> same location? I have all my media on an external drive for my >> desktop, that wouldn't be the case for my laptop. Or if I got an >> external drive for my laptop, it wouldn't be drive "L:" as it is on >> my desktop. Or do you up load all your media to Dropbox also? I am >> fairly new to Legacy and definitely new to Dropbox. By the way, I >> can't thank Kathy enough for the introduction! >> >> Erin > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Hi Erin I know you addressed your question to Janis, but I thought I'd jump in anyway, with a possible answer for you... Dropbox, the free part of it, only allows you to have 2GB of space so you will want to keep that in mind when you decide on what files to put in your Dropbox. To sync my genealogy files, I needed more space than that, so I bit the bullet and paid for the extra space. Anyway, I now keep my entire Surnames folder in my Dropbox. That way, I can link to any file like a census, from within Legacy, and that link will be preserved on the other computer I am using, as well. Any additions I make to the files in my Surname folder (like a newly found and downloaded census from Ancestry, for example) will be accessible to me for addition into Legacy from EITHER compute I choose to use. I keep my photos separately on my computer. Using a Mac, they all go into a program called iPhoto, which, unfortunately, stores its database in one large file and likes to look for that in a certain place on the computer. So, moving that to Dropbox won't work as iPhoto does not see it there. So, what I did was to export only those photo images that I wanted to see and use in Legacy. I put them in Legacy's Pictures folder which now resides in my Dropbox. Again, these images are viewable from within Legacy from either computer I use. I am not sure if you can have Dropbox on an external drive and have it work for you. I guess you can try it with a small amount of files as a test. If it doesn't work as you want, then move Dropbox to the hard drive of your computer (likely to be C Drive)and that definitely WILL work. It all just depends on the size of your Dropbox (2 GB or more?) and the size of hard drive (available capacity) of both of your computers that will help determine what will work best for you. I hope this answered your question? Oh, BTW, the upload may take a long time, if you transfer a large amount of data into your Dropbox like I did. Mine was about 8GB and that took 24 hours!!! I don't know if that slow speed is the fault of Dropbox or my internet speed on my end, which does fluctuate, especially upload speed. I could still use the computer during that time and it eventually did get it all synced up between both computers. It just took a while for that initial sync. But, it is s worth it! Now, when I make a change, it's instantaneous like you would expect. I think this is a TOTALLY AWESOME way to sync whatever files you want to be able to use on both computers and keep synced. I use it for other similar files, as well. Kathy On Feb 12, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Erin Bradshaw wrote: DropBox, after using for a few daysJanis, Just a small question. You said "Ditto for media files". Does that mean that on your Desktop and Laptop your media files are in the same location? I have all my media on an external drive for my desktop, that wouldn't be the case for my laptop. Or if I got an external drive for my laptop, it wouldn't be drive "L:" as it is on my desktop. Or do you up load all your media to Dropbox also? I am fairly new to Legacy and definitely new to Dropbox. By the way, I can't thank Kathy enough for the introduction! Erin Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
DropBox, after using for a few daysJanis, Just a small question. You said "Ditto for media files". Does that mean that on your Desktop and Laptop your media files are in the same location? I have all my media on an external drive for my desktop, that wouldn't be the case for my laptop. Or if I got an external drive for my laptop, it wouldn't be drive "L:" as it is on my desktop. Or do you up load all your media to Dropbox also? I am fairly new to Legacy and definitely new to Dropbox. By the way, I can't thank Kathy enough for the introduction! Erin - Original Message - From: Janis L Gilmore To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop - and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Janis Or, you could put the file into the Public folder of your Dropbox, right click on it and obtain a URL for the file which you could give to your daughter or anyone else for them to download. This, BTW, is a great way to share files with someone if they are too large to attach to an email. The files, that is. :) Kathy On Feb 12, 2009, at 6:51 AM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: Which makes me think of another point. If you share a DropBox with someone else – off-premises (I’m thinking of my daughter) - she would continually have a fresh backup for me. She is not into genealogy, so no danger of her opening the file while I am entering data, and closing it after I enter data (which would erase the work that I had done). Or, I suppose one could frequently simply export the file to the shared dropbox as a manner of storing the file in a safe place. It is accessible online from any computer. Janis On 2/12/09 8:59 AM, "Janis L Gilmore" wrote: Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop – and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Which makes me think of another point. If you share a DropBox with someone else off-premises (I¹m thinking of my daughter) - she would continually have a fresh backup for me. She is not into genealogy, so no danger of her opening the file while I am entering data, and closing it after I enter data (which would erase the work that I had done). Or, I suppose one could frequently simply export the file to the shared dropbox as a manner of storing the file in a safe place. It is accessible online from any computer. Janis On 2/12/09 8:59 AM, "Janis L Gilmore" wrote: > Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains > to the Legacy data file. > > Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, > it updates my file on my desktop and the reverse. No copying to a thumb > drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a > file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, > effortless synchronization. > > Ditto for media files. > > Janis > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] DropBox, after using for a few days
Kathy, and others who were involved in the DropBox discussion, as it pertains to the Legacy data file. Brilliant! I love knowing that each time I close my Legacy file on my laptop, it updates my file on my desktop and the reverse. No copying to a thumb drive. No backing up (no pesky error 91). Not even the trouble of moving a file, via the home network, from one machine to the other. Just seamless, effortless synchronization. Ditto for media files. Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
