Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
The new version of FTM does -NOT- require the older program to import... you
can directly import from any older format however, it is a one way
import... any changes in data done via FTM2008 must be exported to GEDCOM in
order to re-load into older versions of FTM.
Allen
From: m absalom
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 3:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
Cathy,
Thanks for the comments and I am looking forward to trying V7. For the
FTM problem, I have reinstalled it on three drives now always from the original
FTM disk. The problem may come from the bug patch (?) that had to be down
loaded and I have that on disk also. I have tried all export and import options
but nothing effects the fragmentation problem in the slightest. FTM was bought
out after V.11 and they refused to address my problem. Their solution is to
upgrade to 2008. Someone told me that 2008 required the older programs to
export to a GED. If that is the case than the FTM people have their heads in
the wrong place and I have heard nothing good about 2008. I could, if I felt
bold (don't really) try to make corrections to the code but I really don't know
what I am doing and I have a lot of large family files (since FTM doesn't
handle well over 15,000 people). I don't want to mess with it right now. As
for mapping. My husband is a Linux geek and my son is a programmer. Neither
care much about "MY" research so if I want them to be of any Tech Support, I
have to stay clear of anything "MS" if at all possible and that includes
anything "IE". My husband in particular keeps pointing me toward the Linux
screen. He has even given me programs that run on both OS's to make the
transition easier. LOL {Laugh Out Loud}
I don't yet understand how Gramps (Linux program written in Python, a
programing language) can read my GEDCOM when others can't. Chalk one up for the
Linux people. But there is a positive side to this. I can import to Gramps
(Windows version) and then export to Legacy with very few, minor, problems to
correct. (No more fragmented families!) This is why I am exploring Gramps and
Legacy side by side. Thus, it would not be much of a problem to import some of
my smaller, less developed projects in to Legacy. I will be trying that latter
this summer.
Wishing us all happy trails in all our V.7 adventures!
Jane
--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:07 PM
Hi Jane,Three comments.Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as
footnotes, endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation.Re
importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on the Legacy
Web pages on what options to choose
when exporting the Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I
know that you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed
strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need to import
again.Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM. Legacy 7
requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I think it would
drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't understand people not being
interested in maps. :-) To have the relevant map available with a click or two
is wonderful. Perhaps you haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's
Eye views you can switch to.Cheers,CathyAt 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you
wrote:>Hello again Legacy,>I have been lurking now for a few months and though
the recent posts >concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could
comment on.>Back
in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my >self off Win 98
and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had >been a Win 98 and FTM
V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP >and because I haven't come to a
conclusion as to what the best >genealogy program is for me, I am still using
FTM V.11 but now on >Win XP. (Legacy definitely works better on Win XP than on
Win 98.)>If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters >that
allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM >as doses TMG
and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of >the page as TMG does,
then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer.>For now I am still trying to find
the easiest way to convert my >corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having
it completely >fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux
user >built
program also available experimentally for windows), produces a >near perfect
import of my presumed
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
Cathy,
Thanks for the comments and I am looking forward to trying V7. For the
FTM problem, I have reinstalled it on three drives now always from the original
FTM disk. The problem may come from the bug patch (?) that had to be down
loaded and I have that on disk also. I have tried all export and import options
but nothing effects the fragmentation problem in the slightest. FTM was bought
out after V.11 and they refused to address my problem. Their solution is to
upgrade to 2008. Someone told me that 2008 required the older programs to
export to a GED. If that is the case than the FTM people have their heads in
the wrong place and I have heard nothing good about 2008. I could, if I felt
bold (don't really) try to make corrections to the code but I really don't know
what I am doing and I have a lot of large family files (since FTM doesn't
handle well over 15,000 people). I don't want to mess with it right now.
As for mapping. My husband is a Linux
geek and my son is a programmer. Neither care much about "MY" research so if I
want them to be of any Tech Support, I have to stay clear of anything
"MS" if at all possible and that includes anything "IE". My husband in
particular keeps pointing me toward the Linux screen. He has even given me
programs that run on both OS's to make the transition easier. LOL {Laugh Out
Loud}
I don't yet understand how Gramps (Linux program written in Python, a
programing language) can read my GEDCOM when others can't. Chalk one up for the
Linux people. But there is a positive side to this. I can import to Gramps
(Windows version) and then export to Legacy with very few, minor, problems to
correct. (No more fragmented families!) This is why I am exploring Gramps
and Legacy side by side. Thus, it would not be much of a problem to import some
of my smaller, less developed projects in to Legacy. I will be trying that
latter this summer.
Wishing us all happy trails in all our V.7 adventures!
Jane
--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 6:07 PM
Hi Jane,
Three comments.
Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as footnotes,
endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation.
Re importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on
the Legacy Web pages on what options to choose when exporting the
Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I know that
you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed
strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need
to import again.
Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM.
Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and
I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't
understand people not being interested in maps. :-) To have the
relevant map available with a click or two is wonderful. Perhaps you
haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's Eye views you
can switch to.
Cheers,
Cathy
At 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you wrote:
>Hello again Legacy,
>I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts
>concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on.
>Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my
>self off Win 98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had
>been a Win 98 and FTM V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP
>and because I haven't come to a conclusion as to what the best
>genealogy program is for me, I am still using FTM V.11 but now on
>Win XP. (Legacy definitely works better on Win XP than on Win 98.)
>If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters
>that allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM
>as doses TMG and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of
>the page as TMG does, then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer.
>For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my
>corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having it completely
>fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux user
>built program also available experimentally for windows), produces a
>near perfect import of my presumed corrupted FTM v.11 files in,
>GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with the ability to
>import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the
>problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in
>opening that FTM 2008 back-up file being discussed.)
>But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I
>have finished the large projects that I have going and start the
>newer smaller files in both Gramps and Legacy. I keep up
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
Hi Elizabeth, Because they're not just street maps. You can see the countryside and in 3D the elevation. But even modern roads mostly follow old routes. Of course old maps are invaluable but modern are not irrelevant. Cathy At 03:20 PM 31/05/2008, you wrote: From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't understand people not being interested in maps. :-) I don't understand people being interested in current maps. I am, however, interested in maps relevant to the time period in which the people lived. Old maps are truly fascinating. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
From: "Cathy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't understand people not being interested in maps. :-) I don't understand people being interested in current maps. I am, however, interested in maps relevant to the time period in which the people lived. Old maps are truly fascinating. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
Hi Jane, Three comments. Legacy 7 reports give the option to have sources as footnotes, endnotes or endnotes at the end of each section/generation. Re importing an FTM generated GEDCOM into Legacy. There are notes on the Legacy Web pages on what options to choose when exporting the Gedcom and I think there are also notes about the import. I know that you need to check the notes after import. If they have developed strange spaces, then you've used the wrong option for notes and need to import again. Legacy 6 works far better on XP - and a computer with more RAM. Legacy 7 requires much the same although for mapping you need IE7 and I think it would drive you mad without broadband connection. I don't understand people not being interested in maps. :-) To have the relevant map available with a click or two is wonderful. Perhaps you haven't seen the zoom level and the Aerial and Bird's Eye views you can switch to. Cheers, Cathy At 12:57 AM 31/05/2008, you wrote: Hello again Legacy, I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on. Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my self off Win 98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had been a Win 98 and FTM V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP and because I haven't come to a conclusion as to what the best genealogy program is for me, I am still using FTM V.11 but now on Win XP. (Legacy definitely works better on Win XP than on Win 98.) If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters that allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM as doses TMG and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of the page as TMG does, then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer. For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having it completely fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux user built program also available experimentally for windows), produces a near perfect import of my presumed corrupted FTM v.11 files in, GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with the ability to import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in opening that FTM 2008 back-up file being discussed.) But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I have finished the large projects that I have going and start the newer smaller files in both Gramps and Legacy. I keep up with the messageboards for all three programs. (ouch!) I agree that despite the do-able learning curve in TMG, it is clunky, slow and cumbersome and it is somewhat based on an old formate the may well date back as far as the old Atari days (not sure about that). I don't have a problem with appearances since all but FTM allow for easy customizing. I am not interested in Charting, Mapping and uploading to a Website at this point. For my purposes all have something that will do. I do like the ability to quickly create and copy a simple descent tree in FTM for quick sharing and prefer its report format the best. However, I have decided that it may be best to use the reports with sources as a beginning draft in my word processor and customize my own stile report. (I haven't found one that I am 100% happy with). I also for this propose like the FTM option to print sources in line and attached to individual facts allowing for customized footnoting and subscripting on a page by page bases. Although, Legacy and Gramps should really not be compared, I find both to be somewhat between FTM and TMG. I am looking foreword to trying the new Gramps V.3 and Legacy V.7 later this summer. I may have some new thoughts at that point. I hope my thoughts and observation here are taken constructively and applied to future Legacy improvements. Jane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy vs TMG and then some
Hello again Legacy, I have been lurking now for a few months and though the recent posts concerning OS and genealogy programs were something I could comment on. Back in the early part of this year I decided to begin weaning my self off Win 98 and begin exploring OS and genealogy programs. I had been a Win 98 and FTM V.11 user. I have worked on Linux and Win XP and because I haven't come to a conclusion as to what the best genealogy program is for me, I am still using FTM V.11 but now on Win XP. (Legacy definitely works better on Win XP than on Win 98.) If Legacy became compatible with Linux, developed import filters that allowed import direct from program specific files including FTM as doses TMG and offers an option to create footnotes at the end of the page as TMG does, then Legacy will have a new deluxe customer. For now I am still trying to find the easiest way to convert my corrupted V.11 files to Legacy with out having it completely fragment my file. I should note here that Gramps, (a free Linux user built program also available experimentally for windows), produces a near perfect import of my presumed corrupted FTM v.11 files in, GEDCOM formate. TMG is second near perfect with the ability to import directly from FTM files with out converting it to the problematic GEDCOM. (Something that might have been useful in opening that FTM 2008 back-up file being discussed.) But with all the fuss involved, I will continue with FTM until I have finished the large projects that I have going and start the newer smaller files in both Gramps and Legacy. I keep up with the messageboards for all three programs. (ouch!) I agree that despite the do-able learning curve in TMG, it is clunky, slow and cumbersome and it is somewhat based on an old formate the may well date back as far as the old Atari days (not sure about that). I don't have a problem with appearances since all but FTM allow for easy customizing. I am not interested in Charting, Mapping and uploading to a Website at this point. For my purposes all have something that will do. I do like the ability to quickly create and copy a simple descent tree in FTM for quick sharing and prefer its report format the best. However, I have decided that it may be best to use the reports with sources as a beginning draft in my word processor and customize my own stile report. (I haven't found one that I am 100% happy with). I also for this propose like the FTM option to print sources in line and attached to individual facts allowing for customized footnoting and subscripting on a page by page bases. Although, Legacy and Gramps should really not be compared, I find both to be somewhat between FTM and TMG. I am looking foreword to trying the new Gramps V.3 and Legacy V.7 later this summer. I may have some new thoughts at that point. I hope my thoughts and observation here are taken constructively and applied to future Legacy improvements. Jane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
