Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
Our instructor insisted that we learn to read the bit of data on a hollerith card by holding it up to the light to see where the little holes were punched. His point to prove was that what machines had over brains was speed and capacity, not basic capability. Also directed that we sign our names on test papers in ones and zeros. Computers suddenly seemed much less awesome. But we digress... Gary On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:17 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: I don't go back as far as some, but the high school I attended had the identical system with hollerith cards that Doris Day destroyed in the movie with Cary Grant. Our teacher made sure we saw it. Rich in LA CA --- Cathy Redish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks to everyone for their replies. I will set up separate locations, which is going to involve a massive review of my data. I can do a lot of other clean-up at the same time using ideas I have read here. I remember programming a KDF-9 using paper tape! Cathy, Dundas, Ontario Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
I don't go back as far as some, but the high school I attended had the identical system with hollerith cards that Doris Day destroyed in the movie with Cary Grant. Our teacher made sure we saw it. Rich in LA CA --- Cathy Redish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their replies. I will set up > separate locations, > which is going to involve a massive review of my > data. I can do a lot of > other clean-up at the same time using ideas I have > read here. > > I remember programming a KDF-9 using paper tape! > > Cathy, Dundas, Ontario > > > > > Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/2b49et > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
Thanks to everyone for their replies. I will set up separate locations, which is going to involve a massive review of my data. I can do a lot of other clean-up at the same time using ideas I have read here. I remember programming a KDF-9 using paper tape! Cathy, Dundas, Ontario Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
Cathy Redish wrote When you record locations esp. english ones, and a location could be a church and/or a registration district and/or a census parish, do you record them as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, London; St. Leonards Registration District, London and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? For a start, I don't include Addresses in my Locations, so the name of the Church would go in Address and the Registration District/Census Parish etc in the Location. When I know the exact Location, I put Church name and street in Address and usually Town, County, Country (for English addresses) in Location. With a Census, my Sentence is worded to included "Civil Parish of" prior to the Location. When I only know the Registration District I only use that in the Location field, in the form "Wirral RD", but I have recently thought that I should change this to read "Wirral Registration District." A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx refer to the same location what do you record? I always use the abbreviation St in Addresses and Locations because one hardly ever sees it written in full in such circumstances. -- Jenny M Benson Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
David, I would counsel against using abbreviations. To many of us "RD" does *not* mean "Registration District" but "Rural District" a branch of local government from around 1894 to 1974. There is also "UD" for "Urban District". Similarly I had difficulty understanding what was meant by "CD" until I guessed it meant "Civil District". If I, as someone born and bred in England with some 20 years involvement in local government, is having problems then I suspect many more will. I would strongly recommend that one does not abbreviate the various branches of local administration or registration. The three examples which Cathy gives are distinct entities. St Leonards Church, London is clearly a specific place (albeit incomplete as it does not say what district of London); St Leonards Registration District is not a geographical area as such but an administrative area set up purely for registration purposes and St Leonards Parish could be either an ecclesiastical parish or a local government parish (ie. civil) amd there is no way of telling the difference from the information supplied. Thus, the three cannot be lumped as they are not the same location. The first two are easy to enter: the first as it stands and the second with "Registration District" included. For the third to be unique it needs to state whether it is an ecclesiastical or civil parish. BTW in general I use "St" Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *New Blog* Protect Your PC View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ ____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:52:46 +1300 Cathy If I know the address for an event such as a BMD certificate or known Census address I use the location full e.g. St. Leonards Church, Shoreditch, London If I am recording and event such as the St Catherine Index Ref: then I use the location as Shoreditch R.D. or an unknown location found in a Census as Shoreditch C.D. This is a short hand way of knowing to what the location refers. - Original Message - From: Cathy Redish To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts) LUG: When you record locations esp. english ones, and a location could be a church and/or a registration district and/or a census parish, do you record them as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, London; St. Leonards Registration District, London and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx refer to the same location what do you record? Many thanks Cathy (Dundas, Ontario) _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
IMHO, it sounds like St. Leonards Church is a religious organization and St. Leonards Parish, London may be a governmental unit, both in the same town? Do they have their file cabinets in the same room, building, neighborhood? If not, they just have the same name. ( I am trying to simplify a question to ask before lumping similar names together.) Rich in LA CA --- Cathy Redish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LUG: > > When you record locations esp. english ones, and a > location could be a church and/or a registration > district and/or a census parish, do you record them > as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, > London; St. Leonards Registration District, London > and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? > A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx > refer to the same location what do you record? > > Many thanks > Cathy (Dundas, Ontario) > > > > > Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit > http://tinyurl.com/2b49et > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
If I mean a Registration District, I always include "Registration District" in the location. The District is so much bigger than town or parish of the same name. Earlier I didn't and was quite misled. Why did they marry in Yeovil was a question in my mind for a long time. When I addressed it properly, I realised the marriage was in the Yeovil registration district, not Yeovil and on checking the places within it, I was able to guess a more probable parish and check those parish records and there was the marriage. If I'm referring to the Church it would be St Leonard's Church, St Leonards, London, England. Others would put the church name in the address rather than the location/place field. It's up to you whether you use the abbreviation St or the full Saint. Some places have a convention of using one or the other. I usually use St unless I know it is usually written in full. Cathy At 09:22 AM 13/12/2007, you wrote: LUG: When you record locations esp. english ones, and a location could be a church and/or a registration district and/or a census parish, do you record them as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, London; St. Leonards Registration District, London and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx refer to the same location what do you record? Many thanks Cathy (Dundas, Ontario) Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
Cathy If I know the address for an event such as a BMD certificate or known Census address I use the location full e.g. St. Leonards Church, Shoreditch, London If I am recording and event such as the St Catherine Index Ref: then I use the location as Shoreditch R.D. or an unknown location found in a Census as Shoreditch C.D. This is a short hand way of knowing to what the location refers. - Original Message - From: Cathy Redish To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts) LUG: When you record locations esp. english ones, and a location could be a church and/or a registration district and/or a census parish, do you record them as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, London; St. Leonards Registration District, London and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx refer to the same location what do you record? Many thanks Cathy (Dundas, Ontario) Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Buy Now Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1182 - Release Date: 12/12/2007 11:29 a.m. Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Locations (Registration Districts)
LUG: When you record locations esp. english ones, and a location could be a church and/or a registration district and/or a census parish, do you record them as distinct locations eg.. St. Leonards Church, London; St. Leonards Registration District, London and St. Leonards Parish, London or do you lump them? A related question wherre St. xxx and Saint xxx refer to the same location what do you record? Many thanks Cathy (Dundas, Ontario) Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
