Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward & Ron, Okay, I did some testing. I wanted to see if I had this "second endnote" problem if I entered something in the Text field AS I was adding the master source (since I couldn't remember exactly what I had done). So, I added a new master source, put it on the clipboard and cited it on one person, all fields. I ran the Ancestor Book on that person (2 gen.), and the second citation DID OCCUR. See how #2 and #4 below show the problem. - Sources 1. 2. Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org ), testing grave marker (gray centered); Testing cemetery name entered in Text on add 3. Texas Department of Health,(Houston, 2000) Certification of Vital Record 4. Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project\i0, digital images (www.illinoisancestors.org ), testing grave marker (gray centered). 5. Paula Ryburn. 6. State of Texas, County of Harris, Marriage License. 7. State of Illinois, Certificate of Live Birth, Ryburn. 8. Eric Ryburn. 9. Michigan Dept. of Health, Vital Records Section, Birth No. . 10. Michigan Dept. of Health, Vital Records Section, Birth No. . 11. Michigan Dept. of Health, Vital Records Section, Birth No. . PLEASE NOTE 2 new "bugs" haha: When you run Ancestor Book to text file, the title of the page is "Sources" (not "Source Citations") and the final citation is printed 3 times! Yes, when I run it to the screen, there are only 9 citations. Thought it's not anything urgent to get fixed, it does bother me as a programmer to see evidence of the logic being different depending on your output. So, we'll see what the Legacy folks say about the second citation thing. Thanks, guys. --Paula --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Paula Ryburn wrote: > From: Paula Ryburn > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 6:00 PM > > Ward, > Regarding second endnote: > I have this happening on two master sources. For the > first one, I don't remember if I entered something in the > Text field when I added the master source or not--the > problem occurs in a printed report from Jun 1st. For > the second one, I did not enter anything in the Text field > when I added the master source--the problem does not occur > on the Jun 1st report. But I find it hard to believe I > would've clicked on the wrong button/bar by accident twice > and on the exact same sort of master sources. Do you > agree? I hadn't even noticed that lower button/bar > until you mentioned it! > > I don't have the time right this minute (time for supper) > to add another similar master source and cite it, etc. to > test out your theory. Maybe later tonight. > > I did, however, enter a bug report on the second endnote. > ;) > Thanks, > --Paula > > --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Ward Walker > wrote: > > > > > I now see how I got off on one of my tangents. Your > > original problem was really 2 separate problems: > the > > second endnote; and the preview of the subsequent > citation > > form. You are correct that the second endnote problem > is not > > part of the subsequent citation logic, since endnotes > don't > > yet support subsequent citations. > > > > I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your > 8 > > citations (4 individuals birth + death), which ones > cited > > the first endnote vs. the undesired second one? Had > you > > changed the original master source, or had you added > > "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the > > beginning? If it was a change, is it possible that > you > > accidentally hit the button that says apply this > change to > > future citations, rather than to all citations? > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
I think I've pretty well exhausted my powers of deduction on this thread. Well, except for one more longshot. What about Don Montague's recent thread "Numbering source citations and end notes", where he was seeing 2 extra endnotes below the 10 expected ones? But your unwanted endnote presumably doesn't start over with number 1, so probably not the same bug. Ward - Original Message - From: "Paula Ryburn" To: Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more Ward, Regarding second endnote: I have this happening on two master sources. For the first one, I don't remember if I entered something in the Text field when I added the master source or not--the problem occurs in a printed report from Jun 1st. For the second one, I did not enter anything in the Text field when I added the master source--the problem does not occur on the Jun 1st report. But I find it hard to believe I would've clicked on the wrong button/bar by accident twice and on the exact same sort of master sources. Do you agree? I hadn't even noticed that lower button/bar until you mentioned it! I don't have the time right this minute (time for supper) to add another similar master source and cite it, etc. to test out your theory. Maybe later tonight. I did, however, enter a bug report on the second endnote. ;) Thanks, --Paula --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Ward Walker wrote: I now see how I got off on one of my tangents. Your original problem was really 2 separate problems: the second endnote; and the preview of the subsequent citation form. You are correct that the second endnote problem is not part of the subsequent citation logic, since endnotes don't yet support subsequent citations. I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your 8 citations (4 individuals birth + death), which ones cited the first endnote vs. the undesired second one? Had you changed the original master source, or had you added "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the beginning? If it was a change, is it possible that you accidentally hit the button that says apply this change to future citations, rather than to all citations? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward, Yes, I am only getting the one reference. WRT it printing, I don't know, I am out of ink - yet again. I tend to use my printer mainly for photos so it's not unusual!! I would expect it to print the change - a major bug if it doesn't. The important point in all of this is that if the common parts of the Detail Sources are not *exactly* the same the results will vary. Exactly includes white space. Unless one selects "only apply to new" when changing a Master Source then it will be the same in all references. Ron Ferguson _ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wnkwal...@rogers.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:27:24 -0400 > > Paula, > > (I am reply to you through Ron's message, because I can only see yours in > the archive. The issue between the Legacy mail server and the Yahoo! mail > server continues to cause the occasional message to not make it to my > inbox.) > > I now see how I got off on one of my tangents. Your original problem was > really 2 separate problems: the second endnote; and the preview of the > subsequent citation form. You are correct that the second endnote problem is > not part of the subsequent citation logic, since endnotes don't yet support > subsequent citations. > > I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your 8 citations (4 > individuals birth + death), which ones cited the first endnote vs. the > undesired second one? Had you changed the original master source, or had you > added "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the beginning? If it was a > change, is it possible that you accidentally hit the button that says apply > this change to future citations, rather than to all citations? > > Regarding the preview of the subsequent citation form, I think I have > addressed that. I.e., by design, certain fields get dropped and others > don't. The master text field is one that gets dropped, unfortunately > regardless of the 'each time' setting. This bug should be logged. > > Ron, > > Are you saying that where you had 4 endnotes (3, 7, 16, & 17), you now have > only one, with the only change being the edit to the master? Does the change > to the master print? > > Ward > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:59 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > > > > Paula, > > The results I obtained by changing the Master Source are as I expected. I > added "Change A" to the text in the text box of a Master Source and checked > "each time". I was then asked if I wanted to apply this to all or just new > uses of this Master Source, I selected "All". > > The output using the same data as used previously for the tests using > variations of the Detail Text-boxes was that all uses were referenced to the > same number in the end notes. > > Apart from the template am I doing something different to yourself? > > > > Ron Ferguson > > >> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:13:38 -0700 >> From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >> >> If I'm following you correctly, try adding something in the TEXT tab/field >> of the source master and click the box to have it print and click the >> "each time" radio button. That corresponds to what I'm doing using SW >> template. >> >> Hope you have a great weekend! >> --Paula >> >> >> --- On Fri, 6/12/09, ronald ferguson wrote: >> >>> From: ronald ferguson >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more >>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:12 PM >>> >>> Paula, >>> >>> I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as >>> yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery >>> Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which >>> should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed >>> Source content for each individual. >>> &g
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward, And additional note on the second endnote: I tend to cite a source for an individual using the clipboard and citing for each field this source has provided information on. (hope that made sense) On the report, the first endnote # is used just the first time on the first individual in the report; the second endnote # is used on the rest of that individual's citations and on the other 3 individuals' citations. Very sequential. And I don't think I would've added that "Stewart Cemetery" to the Text field & clicked to apply the changes mid-individual, if you know what I mean. Thanks, --Paula --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Ward Walker wrote: > > I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your 8 > citations (4 individuals birth + death), which ones cited > the first endnote vs. the undesired second one? Had you > changed the original master source, or had you added > "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the > beginning? If it was a change, is it possible that you > accidentally hit the button that says apply this change to > future citations, rather than to all citations? > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward, Regarding second endnote: I have this happening on two master sources. For the first one, I don't remember if I entered something in the Text field when I added the master source or not--the problem occurs in a printed report from Jun 1st. For the second one, I did not enter anything in the Text field when I added the master source--the problem does not occur on the Jun 1st report. But I find it hard to believe I would've clicked on the wrong button/bar by accident twice and on the exact same sort of master sources. Do you agree? I hadn't even noticed that lower button/bar until you mentioned it! I don't have the time right this minute (time for supper) to add another similar master source and cite it, etc. to test out your theory. Maybe later tonight. I did, however, enter a bug report on the second endnote. ;) Thanks, --Paula --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Ward Walker wrote: > > I now see how I got off on one of my tangents. Your > original problem was really 2 separate problems: the > second endnote; and the preview of the subsequent citation > form. You are correct that the second endnote problem is not > part of the subsequent citation logic, since endnotes don't > yet support subsequent citations. > > I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your 8 > citations (4 individuals birth + death), which ones cited > the first endnote vs. the undesired second one? Had you > changed the original master source, or had you added > "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the > beginning? If it was a change, is it possible that you > accidentally hit the button that says apply this change to > future citations, rather than to all citations? > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, (I am reply to you through Ron's message, because I can only see yours in the archive. The issue between the Legacy mail server and the Yahoo! mail server continues to cause the occasional message to not make it to my inbox.) I now see how I got off on one of my tangents. Your original problem was really 2 separate problems: the second endnote; and the preview of the subsequent citation form. You are correct that the second endnote problem is not part of the subsequent citation logic, since endnotes don't yet support subsequent citations. I am at a loss to explain your second endnote. Of your 8 citations (4 individuals birth + death), which ones cited the first endnote vs. the undesired second one? Had you changed the original master source, or had you added "Stewart Cemetery, McLean Co." right from the beginning? If it was a change, is it possible that you accidentally hit the button that says apply this change to future citations, rather than to all citations? Regarding the preview of the subsequent citation form, I think I have addressed that. I.e., by design, certain fields get dropped and others don't. The master text field is one that gets dropped, unfortunately regardless of the 'each time' setting. This bug should be logged. Ron, Are you saying that where you had 4 endnotes (3, 7, 16, & 17), you now have only one, with the only change being the edit to the master? Does the change to the master print? Ward - Original Message - From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more Paula, The results I obtained by changing the Master Source are as I expected. I added "Change A" to the text in the text box of a Master Source and checked "each time". I was then asked if I wanted to apply this to all or just new uses of this Master Source, I selected "All". The output using the same data as used previously for the tests using variations of the Detail Text-boxes was that all uses were referenced to the same number in the end notes. Apart from the template am I doing something different to yourself? Ron Ferguson Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:13:38 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com If I'm following you correctly, try adding something in the TEXT tab/field of the source master and click the box to have it print and click the "each time" radio button. That corresponds to what I'm doing using SW template. Hope you have a great weekend! --Paula --- On Fri, 6/12/09, ronald ferguson wrote: From: ronald ferguson Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:12 PM Paula, I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed Source content for each individual. When I looked at the citations in the Sources at the end of the Ancestor Report the content made no sense. I then checked each reference against the first individual to which it related and found variations, some small and some large, in the Detail of each. When I had corrected all of these so that the Detailed Sources were the same in each, then in the Ancestor Book Sources they all had the same reference number. I will not be able to do any more on this until Sunday but would be most interested in your comments. Ron Ferguson -------- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:14:23 -0700 From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" description. I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about how I set this up in the first place...). This is a SW source: Cemetery records> Grave markers,etc.> Online images. The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. Thanks, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: Paula, Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors etc.) I'll have a look. Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.co
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward & Ron, First, thanks for all your diligence!! ;) I think I'm following what you both have been saying, and I agree with the results obtained concerning the differences in DETAIL citations. However, just to clarify: When I originally stated the problem, all my detail citations were the same... they should not have generated any additional entries in the ENDNOTES (yes, not footnotes). My original problem concerned having entered something in the Text field on the MASTER source & clicking to print it EACH time. and then getting TWO entries in the ENDnotes, where I was expecting just one. Further, since I'm using SW sources, I can "preview" that "subsequent citations" thing.. I mean, they are displayed on the right side of the screen. And what I see for the "subsequent citation" is just the TITLE of the MASTER source. That is, LOTS of information is dropped off, not just the one field I'm worried about. Therefore, I was thinking my problem (bug?) is not actually in the subsequent citation logic, because my SECOND (unexpected) citation has all the master information in it (except, of course, the Text field). I'm okay with it for now, as I'm pondering entering the cemetery differently. So I'm willing to wait & see what the Legacy folks say & do. Thanks again! --Paula in Texas --- On Mon, 6/15/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > Ward, > > Please see below > > > > Ron Ferguson > > > > > Oh boy. So many factors. A brain twister. You are > correct -- I overlooked > > that the original enquiry mentioned end notes rather > than footnotes. And now > > I think I understand what you meant by your own test > references. Thanks. > > > > So the original enquiry is for a condition where the > 'subsequent citation' > > form is not implemented, and yet the master text field > data is still being > > dropped on subsequent citations (despite checking > 'include on reports> each > > time'). No fields from the master Source Info tab are > dropped (as some are > > in the expected 'subsequent citation' form that is > displayed on the Assigned > > Sources panel). I think that this particular bug is > that, in either case -- > > footnotes or endnotes, the master text field data > should appear on each > > citation if the 'each time' option is selected. > > > See my latest post varying the Master Source text-box > contents. The results were not a surprise (anything else > would have been!) > > > > > > Now back to your tests with the _detail_ text field > data. If I can > > paraphrase to see if I have it right now: > > - Ref 3: When there is nothing in the text field, all > citations point to > > endnote #3. > > - Refs 7 & 16: Adding 'Change A' or 'Change B' to > the text field once > > resulted in new endnote numbers for both, and the text > was printed. > > - Ref 17: Adding 'Change C' to 2 citations resulted in > new endnote #17, > > with the text printed, and with both citations > pointing to endnote #17. > > > > Yup, that's what I'm saying > > > This is consistent with my experiments. > > > > What would have triggered a new endnote in the 'Change > C' case is if any > > field on the Detail Information tab had different data > in the second > > citation. I would expect to see the full citation in > both endnotes. > > > > This is what my tests with inserting changes A and Change B > show. > > > > If using footnotes, then it gets trickier. I think we > are seeing the > > following behavior: > > - All citations having nothing in the detail text > field pointing to the > > same initial footnote, with the full citation form. > > - The citations with 'Change A' and 'Change B' each > resulting in a new > > footnote and each using the subsequent citation form > (and yet with the > > detail text not printing). > > - The 2 citations with 'Change C' resulting in one > new, shared footnote, > > using the subsequent citation form and with the detail > text not printing. > > > > In other words, the 3 footnotes in 'subsequent > citation' form would look > > identical in this case where no significant other > detail source fields were > > touched. (Not good.) > > > > I have not look at the footnotes in written reports but I > use these on my web pages. Again when two footnotes *on the > same page* are identical they are given the same reference > number. > > > I am beginning to develop a theory on this - probably > incorrect, and certainly unverified - initially with V7 > there were a number of problems with sourcing and I wonder > if the Subsequent Citation was quietly dropped to resolve > these h :-) > > > > Ward > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward, Please see below Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wnkwal...@rogers.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:37:02 -0400 > > Oh boy. So many factors. A brain twister. You are correct -- I overlooked > that the original enquiry mentioned end notes rather than footnotes. And now > I think I understand what you meant by your own test references. Thanks. > > So the original enquiry is for a condition where the 'subsequent citation' > form is not implemented, and yet the master text field data is still being > dropped on subsequent citations (despite checking 'include on reports> each > time'). No fields from the master Source Info tab are dropped (as some are > in the expected 'subsequent citation' form that is displayed on the Assigned > Sources panel). I think that this particular bug is that, in either case -- > footnotes or endnotes, the master text field data should appear on each > citation if the 'each time' option is selected. See my latest post varying the Master Source text-box contents. The results were not a surprise (anything else would have been!) > > Now back to your tests with the _detail_ text field data. If I can > paraphrase to see if I have it right now: > - Ref 3: When there is nothing in the text field, all citations point to > endnote #3. > - Refs 7 & 16: Adding 'Change A' or 'Change B' to the text field once > resulted in new endnote numbers for both, and the text was printed. > - Ref 17: Adding 'Change C' to 2 citations resulted in new endnote #17, > with the text printed, and with both citations pointing to endnote #17. > Yup, that's what I'm saying > This is consistent with my experiments. > > What would have triggered a new endnote in the 'Change C' case is if any > field on the Detail Information tab had different data in the second > citation. I would expect to see the full citation in both endnotes. > This is what my tests with inserting changes A and Change B show. > If using footnotes, then it gets trickier. I think we are seeing the > following behavior: > - All citations having nothing in the detail text field pointing to the > same initial footnote, with the full citation form. > - The citations with 'Change A' and 'Change B' each resulting in a new > footnote and each using the subsequent citation form (and yet with the > detail text not printing). > - The 2 citations with 'Change C' resulting in one new, shared footnote, > using the subsequent citation form and with the detail text not printing. > > In other words, the 3 footnotes in 'subsequent citation' form would look > identical in this case where no significant other detail source fields were > touched. (Not good.) > I have not look at the footnotes in written reports but I use these on my web pages. Again when two footnotes *on the same page* are identical they are given the same reference number. I am beginning to develop a theory on this - probably incorrect, and certainly unverified - initially with V7 there were a number of problems with sourcing and I wonder if the Subsequent Citation was quietly dropped to resolve these h :-) > Ward > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:19 PM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > > Ward, > > Please see below > > Ron Ferguson > > >> From: wnkwal...@rogers.com >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more >> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:54:06 -0400 >> >> Ron, >> >> First of all, I assume that you are testing with a report that prints >> footnotes, not endnotes. Otherwise, due to a bug, you will not currently >> see >> the abbreviated subsequent citation form. You will always see the full >> citation form. > > That is what I am saying, except that I am using endnotes as per the > original enquiry. I would need to check to see the output in footnotes > (which I normally use btw) > > > Second, I assume that you are testin
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Oh boy. So many factors. A brain twister. You are correct -- I overlooked that the original enquiry mentioned end notes rather than footnotes. And now I think I understand what you meant by your own test references. Thanks. So the original enquiry is for a condition where the 'subsequent citation' form is not implemented, and yet the master text field data is still being dropped on subsequent citations (despite checking 'include on reports > each time'). No fields from the master Source Info tab are dropped (as some are in the expected 'subsequent citation' form that is displayed on the Assigned Sources panel). I think that this particular bug is that, in either case -- footnotes or endnotes, the master text field data should appear on each citation if the 'each time' option is selected. Now back to your tests with the _detail_ text field data. If I can paraphrase to see if I have it right now: - Ref 3: When there is nothing in the text field, all citations point to endnote #3. - Refs 7 & 16: Adding 'Change A' or 'Change B' to the text field once resulted in new endnote numbers for both, and the text was printed. - Ref 17: Adding 'Change C' to 2 citations resulted in new endnote #17, with the text printed, and with both citations pointing to endnote #17. This is consistent with my experiments. What would have triggered a new endnote in the 'Change C' case is if any field on the Detail Information tab had different data in the second citation. I would expect to see the full citation in both endnotes. If using footnotes, then it gets trickier. I think we are seeing the following behavior: - All citations having nothing in the detail text field pointing to the same initial footnote, with the full citation form. - The citations with 'Change A' and 'Change B' each resulting in a new footnote and each using the subsequent citation form (and yet with the detail text not printing). - The 2 citations with 'Change C' resulting in one new, shared footnote, using the subsequent citation form and with the detail text not printing. In other words, the 3 footnotes in 'subsequent citation' form would look identical in this case where no significant other detail source fields were touched. (Not good.) Ward - Original Message ----- From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more Ward, Please see below Ron Ferguson ---------------- From: wnkwal...@rogers.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:54:06 -0400 Ron, First of all, I assume that you are testing with a report that prints footnotes, not endnotes. Otherwise, due to a bug, you will not currently see the abbreviated subsequent citation form. You will always see the full citation form. That is what I am saying, except that I am using endnotes as per the original enquiry. I would need to check to see the output in footnotes (which I normally use btw) Second, I assume that you are testing with SourceWriter sources. Yes, that was the initial enquiry I'm confused when you say that Ref 3 had 'many' subsequent citations, and then 'two'. In any case, I think you are saying that all citations are sharing footnote number 17. This means that Legacy thinks that all of these citations are identical, in terms of what is supposed to be printed. No, I don't say that. Ref 3 has many subsequent citations, ref 7 and ref 16 have one each. Ref 17 is cited twice If some citations have nothing in the text field and others have 'Change C' (and the box is checked to show it on reports), then the footnote should not be shared. If 'Change C' is in the first citation, then it should appear. If it is in a 'subsequent citation' and not in the first citation of the master, then it will not appear (for better of for worse -- the main subject of the bug that I have been talking about for a few months). (BTW, my tests have data in other detail fields, not just the text field, if that makes any difference.) Ref 3 has nothing in the text field and all the citations of this reference are the same. Ref 7 has "Change A" in the text field and shows this, there are no further citations. ref 16 has "Change B" in the text field and shows this, there are no further citations. ref 17 has Change C in the text field and is cited twice, both show "Change C" In other words a new reference number is generated for each change and subsequent citations have the same reference number as the first of that type. Paula's bug only applies to data entered into the text or comment field of
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, The results I obtained by changing the Master Source are as I expected. I added "Change A" to the text in the text box of a Master Source and checked "each time". I was then asked if I wanted to apply this to all or just new uses of this Master Source, I selected "All". The output using the same data as used previously for the tests using variations of the Detail Text-boxes was that all uses were referenced to the same number in the end notes. Apart from the template am I doing something different to yourself? Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:13:38 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > If I'm following you correctly, try adding something in the TEXT tab/field of > the source master and click the box to have it print and click the "each > time" radio button. That corresponds to what I'm doing using SW template. > > Hope you have a great weekend! > --Paula > > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > >> From: ronald ferguson >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more >> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:12 PM >> >> Paula, >> >> I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as >> yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery >> Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which >> should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed >> Source content for each individual. >> >> When I looked at the citations in the Sources at the end of >> the Ancestor Report the content made no sense. I then >> checked each reference against the first individual to which >> it related and found variations, some small and some large, >> in the Detail of each. When I had corrected all of these so >> that the Detailed Sources were the same in each, then in the >> Ancestor Book Sources they all had the same reference >> number. >> >> I will not be able to do any more on this until Sunday but >> would be most interested in your comments. >> >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> _ >> >> *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web >> pages >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> _ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:14:23 -0700 >>> From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only >> once--more >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> >>> >>> Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" >> description. >>> >>> I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not >> webpages. >>> >>> The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had >> second thoughts about how I set this up in the first >> place...). >>> This is a SW source: Cemetery records> Grave >> markers,etc.> Online images. >>> The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL >> field. >>> >>> Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to >> do that. >>> Thanks, >>> --Paula >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Paula, >>>> >>>> Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? >> The output >>>> is not necessarily the same with particular >> respect to the >>>> repository. If you let me know which and the form >> (ancestors >>>> etc.) I'll have a look. >>>> >>>> Is the URL in the Master Source or the >> Repository? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>> >> _ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ward, Please see below Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wnkwal...@rogers.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:54:06 -0400 > > Ron, > > First of all, I assume that you are testing with a report that prints > footnotes, not endnotes. Otherwise, due to a bug, you will not currently see > the abbreviated subsequent citation form. You will always see the full > citation form. That is what I am saying, except that I am using endnotes as per the original enquiry. I would need to check to see the output in footnotes (which I normally use btw) Second, I assume that you are testing with SourceWriter > sources. Yes, that was the initial enquiry > > I'm confused when you say that Ref 3 had 'many' subsequent citations, and > then 'two'. In any case, I think you are saying that all citations are > sharing footnote number 17. This means that Legacy thinks that all of these > citations are identical, in terms of what is supposed to be printed. No, I don't say that. Ref 3 has many subsequent citations, ref 7 and ref 16 have one each. Ref 17 is cited twice If some > citations have nothing in the text field and others have 'Change C' (and > the box is checked to show it on reports), then the footnote should not be > shared. If 'Change C' is in the first citation, then it should appear. If it > is in a 'subsequent citation' and not in the first citation of the master, > then it will not appear (for better of for worse -- the main subject of the > bug that I have been talking about for a few months). (BTW, my tests have > data in other detail fields, not just the text field, if that makes any > difference.) Ref 3 has nothing in the text field and all the citations of this reference are the same. Ref 7 has "Change A" in the text field and shows this, there are no further citations. ref 16 has "Change B" in the text field and shows this, there are no further citations. ref 17 has Change C in the text field and is cited twice, both show "Change C" In other words a new reference number is generated for each change and subsequent citations have the same reference number as the first of that type. > > Paula's bug only applies to data entered into the text or comment field of > the master source. Only there is the option provided to show this text > 'first time' or 'each time'. One would think that 'each time' means don't > let it disappear in a subsequent citation. > I did say that I would be looking at the effects of changes in the Master Source later (haven't got round to it yet) and at this stage would not like to predict what the outcome should be. > Ward > > - Original Message - > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:41 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > > > > Paula, > > I am doing this in two parts as I notice that you are making changes to the > Master Source. This is something a never do, as I have always thought it > would create a new Master Source. Nevertheless I will try it later. > > I have made changes by adding in the the Detail Source Text/Comment box: > > This is the base I started from: > > 3. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , > Cemetery Records. > > I then added 3 changes to different records: > > > 7. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , > Cemetery Records; Change A > 16. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , > Cemetery Records; Change B > 17. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , > Cemetery Records; Change C > > The above is the output: however I am beginning to wonder when the > subsequent citation will ever be returned! > > Ref 3 had many subsequent citations but all were given ref 3, A and B only > had one citation each (ref 7 and 16), but ref 17 (C) had two, the subsequent > citation was given the reference 17. > > I will now have a look at the Master Source. > > (BTW you have forced m
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Ron, First of all, I assume that you are testing with a report that prints footnotes, not endnotes. Otherwise, due to a bug, you will not currently see the abbreviated subsequent citation form. You will always see the full citation form. Second, I assume that you are testing with SourceWriter sources. I'm confused when you say that Ref 3 had 'many' subsequent citations, and then 'two'. In any case, I think you are saying that all citations are sharing footnote number 17. This means that Legacy thinks that all of these citations are identical, in terms of what is supposed to be printed. If some citations have nothing in the text field and others have 'Change C' (and the box is checked to show it on reports), then the footnote should not be shared. If 'Change C' is in the first citation, then it should appear. If it is in a 'subsequent citation' and not in the first citation of the master, then it will not appear (for better of for worse -- the main subject of the bug that I have been talking about for a few months). (BTW, my tests have data in other detail fields, not just the text field, if that makes any difference.) Paula's bug only applies to data entered into the text or comment field of the master source. Only there is the option provided to show this text 'first time' or 'each time'. One would think that 'each time' means don't let it disappear in a subsequent citation. Ward - Original Message ----- From: "ronald ferguson" To: Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more Paula, I am doing this in two parts as I notice that you are making changes to the Master Source. This is something a never do, as I have always thought it would create a new Master Source. Nevertheless I will try it later. I have made changes by adding in the the Detail Source Text/Comment box: This is the base I started from: 3. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records. I then added 3 changes to different records: 7. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change A 16. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change B 17. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change C The above is the output: however I am beginning to wonder when the subsequent citation will ever be returned! Ref 3 had many subsequent citations but all were given ref 3, A and B only had one citation each (ref 7 and 16), but ref 17 (C) had two, the subsequent citation was given the reference 17. I will now have a look at the Master Source. (BTW you have forced me to clean up my sources - can't decide whether that is good or bad) Ron Ferguson ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, I am doing this in two parts as I notice that you are making changes to the Master Source. This is something a never do, as I have always thought it would create a new Master Source. Nevertheless I will try it later. I have made changes by adding in the the Detail Source Text/Comment box: This is the base I started from: 3. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records. I then added 3 changes to different records: 7. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change A 16. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change B 17. St Helens Council, "Funeral Records," database, St Helens Council , Cemetery Records; Change C The above is the output: however I am beginning to wonder when the subsequent citation will ever be returned! Ref 3 had many subsequent citations but all were given ref 3, A and B only had one citation each (ref 7 and 16), but ref 17 (C) had two, the subsequent citation was given the reference 17. I will now have a look at the Master Source. (BTW you have forced me to clean up my sources - can't decide whether that is good or bad) Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:13:38 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > If I'm following you correctly, try adding something in the TEXT tab/field of > the source master and click the box to have it print and click the "each > time" radio button. That corresponds to what I'm doing using SW template. > > Hope you have a great weekend! > --Paula > > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > >> From: ronald ferguson >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more >> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:12 PM >> >> Paula, >> >> I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as >> yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery >> Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which >> should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed >> Source content for each individual. >> >> When I looked at the citations in the Sources at the end of >> the Ancestor Report the content made no sense. I then >> checked each reference against the first individual to which >> it related and found variations, some small and some large, >> in the Detail of each. When I had corrected all of these so >> that the Detailed Sources were the same in each, then in the >> Ancestor Book Sources they all had the same reference >> number. >> >> I will not be able to do any more on this until Sunday but >> would be most interested in your comments. >> >> >> Ron Ferguson >> >> _ >> >> *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web >> pages >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> _ >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:14:23 -0700 >>> From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only >> once--more >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> >>> >>> Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" >> description. >>> >>> I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not >> webpages. >>> >>> The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had >> second thoughts about how I set this up in the first >> place...). >>> This is a SW source: Cemetery records> Grave >> markers,etc.> Online images. >>> The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL >> field. >>> >>> Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to >> do that. >>> Thanks,
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
If I'm following you correctly, try adding something in the TEXT tab/field of the source master and click the box to have it print and click the "each time" radio button. That corresponds to what I'm doing using SW template. Hope you have a great weekend! --Paula --- On Fri, 6/12/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > From: ronald ferguson > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:12 PM > > Paula, > > I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as > yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery > Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which > should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed > Source content for each individual. > > When I looked at the citations in the Sources at the end of > the Ancestor Report the content made no sense. I then > checked each reference against the first individual to which > it related and found variations, some small and some large, > in the Detail of each. When I had corrected all of these so > that the Detailed Sources were the same in each, then in the > Ancestor Book Sources they all had the same reference > number. > > I will not be able to do any more on this until Sunday but > would be most interested in your comments. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web > pages > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _ > > > > > > ------------ > > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:14:23 -0700 > > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only > once--more > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > > > > Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" > description. > > > > I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not > webpages. > > > > The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had > second thoughts about how I set this up in the first > place...). > > This is a SW source: Cemetery records> Grave > markers,etc.> Online images. > > The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL > field. > > > > Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to > do that. > > Thanks, > > --Paula > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > > >> > >> Paula, > >> > >> Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? > The output > >> is not necessarily the same with particular > respect to the > >> repository. If you let me know which and the form > (ancestors > >> etc.) I'll have a look. > >> > >> Is the URL in the Master Source or the > Repository? > >> > >> > >> Ron Ferguson > > > _ > Get the best of MSN on your mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, I haven't looked at exactly the same SW template as yourself, I looked at my own files which have Cemetery Records>Compiled Records: Database online Template, which should have had exactly the same Master Source and Detailed Source content for each individual. When I looked at the citations in the Sources at the end of the Ancestor Report the content made no sense. I then checked each reference against the first individual to which it related and found variations, some small and some large, in the Detail of each. When I had corrected all of these so that the Detailed Sources were the same in each, then in the Ancestor Book Sources they all had the same reference number. I will not be able to do any more on this until Sunday but would be most interested in your comments. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:14:23 -0700 > From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" description. > > I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. > > The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about how > I set this up in the first place...). > This is a SW source: Cemetery records> Grave markers,etc.> Online images. > The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. > > Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. > Thanks, > --Paula > > > --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > >> >> Paula, >> >> Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output >> is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the >> repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors >> etc.) I'll have a look. >> >> Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? >> >> >> Ron Ferguson > _ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula, You might have a look at Report Options, on the Sources tab. Sometimes I've had a problem when I've accidentally clicked "If an event has multiple citations, combine them into one paragraph." Dede Holden On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: > > Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" description. > > I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. > > The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about > how I set this up in the first place...). > This is a SW source: Cemetery records > Grave markers,etc. > Online > images. > The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. > > Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. > Thanks, > --Paula > > > --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > > > > Paula, > > > > Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output > > is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the > > repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors > > etc.) I'll have a look. > > > > Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? > > > > > > Ron Ferguson > > > > > > > >
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Before you try to duplicate, check out my "corrected" description. I am running the Ancestor Book report.. not webpages. The URL is NOT in the repository (though I have had second thoughts about how I set this up in the first place...). This is a SW source: Cemetery records > Grave markers,etc. > Online images. The URL is entered on the Source Info tab... URL field. Feel free to point out a better (the correct?) way to do that. Thanks, --Paula --- On Thu, 6/11/09, ronald ferguson wrote: > > Paula, > > Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output > is not necessarily the same with particular respect to the > repository. If you let me know which and the form (ancestors > etc.) I'll have a look. > > Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository? > > > Ron Ferguson > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
Paula,
Are you looking at them in a report or webpages? The output is not necessarily
the same with particular respect to the repository. If you let me know which
and the form (ancestors etc.) I'll have a look.
Is the URL in the Master Source or the Repository?
Ron Ferguson
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> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:50:20 -0700
> From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
> At the risk of beating a dead horse...
>
> What I'm seeing as the second printed citation in my end notes is NOT what is
> shown as the subsequent citation. This source with identical detail is cited
> on 4 individuals for birth & death data.
>
> Here's the first (and desired only) citation printed:
>
> Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images
> (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker; Stewart
> Cemetery, McLean Co.
>
> Here's the second (and undesired) citation printed:
>
> Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images
> (www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker.
>
> And here's what the subsequent citation is supposed to look like:
>
> Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project
>
> As you can see, more than just the master source "Text" field is still being
> printed on the second citation. According to the subsequent citation example,
> everything but the title should be dropped off. So, I don't think the problem
> as I've stated it is due to the subsequent citation logice. Do you?
>
> ("Ryburn grave marker" is what I've entered on the detail---I don't know what
> the system thinks should show from the detail on "subsequent citations")
>
> And while I'm thinking about it... Is it normal for the source master "Text"
> to print AFTER the detail? (just asking)
>
> Thanks,
> --Paula
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] master source text prints only once--more
At the risk of beating a dead horse...
What I'm seeing as the second printed citation in my end notes is NOT what is
shown as the subsequent citation. This source with identical detail is cited
on 4 individuals for birth & death data.
Here's the first (and desired only) citation printed:
Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images
(www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker; Stewart Cemetery,
McLean Co.
Here's the second (and undesired) citation printed:
Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project, digital images
(www.illinoisancestors.org/cemphotos ), Ryburn grave marker.
And here's what the subsequent citation is supposed to look like:
Illinois Ancestors Tombstone Project
As you can see, more than just the master source "Text" field is still being
printed on the second citation. According to the subsequent citation example,
everything but the title should be dropped off. So, I don't think the problem
as I've stated it is due to the subsequent citation logice. Do you?
("Ryburn grave marker" is what I've entered on the detail---I don't know what
the system thinks should show from the detail on "subsequent citations")
And while I'm thinking about it... Is it normal for the source master "Text"
to print AFTER the detail? (just asking)
Thanks,
--Paula
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