Re: [LegacyUG] order of names
I am not sure I understand what you are saying either, but yes Randolph, this is a common practice in Spanish/Portuguese convention, and some other cultures as well. Children were commonly given two surnames, one from each parent. The middle name (1st surname) comes from the father's name (apellido paterno), and the last name (2nd surname) is the mother's maiden name (apellido materno). For example: Mozes son of Joseph PEREIRA and Abigail MENDOZA will appear as Mozes PEREIRA MENDOZA. Should Mozes PEREIRA MENDOZA marry Sarah LOPES SALZEDO, their son's name would be recorded as Gabriel PEREIRA SALZEDO. Sometimes these two surnames are reversed - first the mother's surname, and then the father's surname. Effectively the surname can change with every generation. It would appear that when families left Spain and Portugal, in accordance with local laws and conventions in the rest of Europe, they kept a single continuing surname giving rise to the vast number of LOPES SALZEDO and NUNES NABARRO records. Lew > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of > Randolph Clark > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:34 PM > To: legacyusergroup > Subject: [LegacyUG] order of names > > In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an > Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my > cousins name. Below is part of her response: > > "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs > throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for > genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last > names placed after the first name." > > Has anyone ever heard of this? > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] order of names
Randolph: I suspect your correspondent has misinterpreted something somewhere along the line. The sequence you describe would be extremely confusing and is not at all common in the US. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Randolph Clark Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:34 PM To: legacyusergroup Subject: [LegacyUG] order of names In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my cousins name. Below is part of her response: "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last names placed after the first name." Has anyone ever heard of this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] order of names
I've only seen the maiden name follow the maried name when it is expressed thusly: Mrs. Mary Jane Williams-Smythe (nee Hawley-Silverston), wife since 2007 of George Percy Williams-Smythe, gave birth to a son, Percy Hawley, on 21 April, 2006. I much perfer that to Mrs. Mary Jane (Hawley-Silverston) Williams-Smythe. - Original Message - From: "Randolph Clark" To: "legacyusergroup" Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:33:58 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [LegacyUG] order of names In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my cousins name. Below is part of her response: "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last names placed after the first name." Has anyone ever heard of this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] order of names
To me Janis is doing what the standard is; the name of the woman, if the married and maiden name are used, is first name (maiden name) married name. But what Randolph was being told is that the order is first name, married name, maiden name. That is very strange indeed and I would not want it imported, imported or exchanged! Howland Davis From: Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net Randolph, please give an example, because I am not sure that I understand what you are saying. A woman’s maiden name is Susan Jane Jones. She marries a man whose last name is Smith. So she should, in my view, be referred to as Susan Jane Jones most of the time, but sometimes by her married name of Susan Jane (Jones) Smith. Janis On 4/20/09 5:33 PM, "Randolph Clark" wrote: The important for genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last names placed after the first name." Has anyone ever heard of this? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] order of names
Janis L Gilmore wrote: Randolph, please give an example, because I am not sure that I understand what you are saying. A woman’s maiden name is Susan Jane Jones. She marries a man whose last name is Smith. So she should, in my view, be referred to as Susan Jane Jones most of the time, but sometimes by her married name of Susan Jane (Jones) Smith. That's what Ron was trying to say - promulgate this so-called standard and add to the confusion. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] order of names
Randolph, please give an example, because I am not sure that I understand what you are saying. A woman¹s maiden name is Susan Jane Jones. She marries a man whose last name is Smith. So she should, in my view, be referred to as Susan Jane Jones most of the time, but sometimes by her married name of Susan Jane (Jones) Smith. Janis On 4/20/09 5:33 PM, "Randolph Clark" wrote: > In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an > Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my > cousins name. Below is part of her response: > > "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs > throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for > genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last > names placed after the first name." > > Has anyone ever heard of this? > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] order of names
No, and please don't export it :-) Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Create Standards Compliant CSS Pedigree web pages http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:33:58 -0400 > Subject: [LegacyUG] order of names > From: ceddaco...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > > In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an > Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my > cousins name. Below is part of her response: > > "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs > throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for > genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last > names placed after the first name." > > > Has anyone ever heard of this? _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] order of names
In what I viewed as trying to be helpful I fired off a quick note to an Ancestry.com poster to let her know that she had reversed portions of my cousins name. Below is part of her response: "The order of the names has to do with the Ancestry suggestion that runs throughout my extensive trees and is common in the US. The important for genealogy reasons "maiden name" is placed at the end and any married last names placed after the first name." Has anyone ever heard of this?
