RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread ronald ferguson


Gail,

Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a 
format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will 
maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.


One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit 
different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my 
opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of 
standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo all 
my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything else 
for that matter.


Ron Ferguson



_

For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400

Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
sound very promising!

I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
much more information here and the source components are carefully
described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
these days.

Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
detail.

I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
_Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

Thanks,
--
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Bert van Kootwijk

I second that.

Bert
Dutch translationteam

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills




Gail,

Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a 
format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will 
maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.


One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit 
different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my 
opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of 
standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo 
all my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything 
else for that matter.


Ron Ferguson



_

For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400

Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
sound very promising!

I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
much more information here and the source components are carefully
described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
these days.

Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
detail.

I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
_Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

Thanks,
--
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread William Anderson
Ron,

Hear, hear!

Bill

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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


Gail,

Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a 
format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will 
maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit 
different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my 
opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of 
standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo all 
my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything else 
for that matter.

Ron Ferguson



_

For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_





From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400

Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
sound very promising!

I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
much more information here and the source components are carefully
described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
these days.

Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
detail.

I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
_Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

Thanks,
--
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Gail Nestor
Hi Ron, don't get me wrong - I'm all for flexibility!  I would
definitely not want that sacrificed either.  As much as Ms. Mills has
tried to bring a bit of standardization to sourcing, she even freely
admits that it is an art as much as a science.

I still grapple with sources and all of mine seem to still be
different than the ones in 885 pages of her book!!  My main goal,
before having the perfect format, truly is to just ensure I and
others can find/retrace my research steps.

I also grapple with the sometimes competing needs of database
efficiencies vs. formatting for possible later written publication.
I'm still aiming to do both, but it's a hard road.

My hopes for Legacy v7 are just things like needing to split the
author name input into two fields so that a report could print first
name first (for footnotes) or last name first (for bibliographies).  I
definitely do not want to be limited with the templates and am hopeful
that Renee was right when she said we could create our own templates.
I'm sure I'll be hand-crafting a few.

My final thought is that I don't want to come across as a sourcing
snob - a sourcing nerd maybe! - but not a snob.  As long as I can
follow someone's footnote to its source, I will never be the one to
say the format is not good!  I still feel like a total novice with all
of this and I'm just striving to do a good job for my two little
descendants and their future descendants.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net


On 8/27/07, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gail,

 Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a
 format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will
 maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

 One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit
 different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my
 opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of
 standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo all
 my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything else
 for that matter.

 Ron Ferguson



 _

 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400
 
 Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
 Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
 Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
 sound very promising!
 
 I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
 hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
 incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
 much more information here and the source components are carefully
 described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
 its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
 and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
 these days.
 
 Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
 and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
 between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
 source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
 which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
 detail.
 
 I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
 so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
 this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
 just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
 _Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.
 
 Thanks,
 --
 Gail Rich Nestor
 Smyrna, Georgia
 www.roots2buds.net

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Denise Levenick
I too listened to the Myrt interview this weekend and read Renee's blog - it
sounds like Geoff R. is trying keeping to keep V7 very hush hush until the
last minute. Of course, all this speculation builds anticipation and
interest ;).

This group has really inspired me to be careful and consistent in my own
sourcing through Legacy, but I do look forward to what Geoff said was a more
user-friendly interface for sourcing. It is hard if you are a beginner to
figure out how to enter information in the program so that it will develop a
logical citation. In some ways, I think writing a Works Cited entry from
scratch is almost easier. While old pros might feel comfortable with their
personal system, whenever I am tackling something new I tend to rely on the
advice of those who have gone on before so I don't get hung up trying to
reinvent the wheel.

I love Dear Myrt's blog and podcasts by the way. Very informative and fun!
Are there other great ones out there?

Denise 


   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
sound very promising!

I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
much more information here and the source components are carefully
described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
these days.

Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
detail.

I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
_Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

Thanks,
-- 
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Randolph Clark
There are tons of genealogy podcasts out there. I like the genealogy guys:
 http://genealogyguys.com/

 See also:
 http://blogfinder.genealogue.com/

Randy

On 8/27/07, Denise Levenick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I too listened to the Myrt interview this weekend and read Renee's blog - it
 sounds like Geoff R. is trying keeping to keep V7 very hush hush until the
 last minute. Of course, all this speculation builds anticipation and
 interest ;).

 This group has really inspired me to be careful and consistent in my own
 sourcing through Legacy, but I do look forward to what Geoff said was a more
 user-friendly interface for sourcing. It is hard if you are a beginner to
 figure out how to enter information in the program so that it will develop a
 logical citation. In some ways, I think writing a Works Cited entry from
 scratch is almost easier. While old pros might feel comfortable with their
 personal system, whenever I am tackling something new I tend to rely on the
 advice of those who have gone on before so I don't get hung up trying to
 reinvent the wheel.

 I love Dear Myrt's blog and podcasts by the way. Very informative and fun!
 Are there other great ones out there?

 Denise



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:30 AM
 To: Legacy User Group
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

 Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
 Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
 Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
 sound very promising!

 I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
 hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
 incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
 much more information here and the source components are carefully
 described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
 its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
 and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
 these days.

 Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
 and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
 between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
 source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
 which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
 detail.

 I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
 so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
 this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
 just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
 _Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

 Thanks,
 --
 Gail Rich Nestor
 Smyrna, Georgia
 www.roots2buds.net


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Don Brown
Ron
I have to agree with you. I do not want Ms. Mills or anyone telling me how
and what I must have in my sources and citations. Legacy has always allowed
us to enter and format everything that is needed to properly state where
your information comes from.

Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



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ferguson
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


Gail,

Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a 
format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will 
maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit 
different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my 
opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of 
standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo all

my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything else 
for that matter.

Ron Ferguson



_

For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_





From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400

Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
sound very promising!

I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
much more information here and the source components are carefully
described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
these days.

Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
detail.

I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
_Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.

Thanks,
--
Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, Georgia
www.roots2buds.net

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Gail Nestor
I sort of think that some might be missing part of my point.  I made
not have made it very clear in my earlier note and if so, I apologize.
 I'm actually asking for much *more* flexibility with source citation
than we currently have.   Right now, the output order, format, etc. is
totally set and you cannot change it to suit your needs.  The author
goes in one spot, the title in another, and the publication facts in
their own.  There can be no blending of master source fields with
citation detail fields in the output from v6.  I'm asking for and
hoping for much more flexibility in v7 to create whatever output order
I want (Mills style or not).

Although Geoff's interview highlighted the templates as a way to take
out the guesswork with sources and make them standardized, I do
believe the new source templates (and ability to create one's own
custom template) will give this much-needed flexibility, yet not force
everyone to start with a blank piece of paper if they don't want to.

I do respect everyone's desire to do sources their own way and don't
want to push one method over another.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net



On 8/27/07, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron
 I have to agree with you. I do not want Ms. Mills or anyone telling me how
 and what I must have in my sources and citations. Legacy has always allowed
 us to enter and format everything that is needed to properly state where
 your information comes from.

 Don Brown
 Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:46 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


 Gail,

 Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a
 format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will
 maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

 One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit
 different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my
 opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of
 standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo all

 my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything else
 for that matter.

 Ron Ferguson



 _

 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400
 
 Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
 Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
 Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
 sound very promising!
 
 I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
 hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
 incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
 much more information here and the source components are carefully
 described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
 its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
 and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
 these days.
 
 Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
 and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
 between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
 source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
 which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
 detail.
 
 I'm seeing the need to break the author field into first and last name
 so that the bibliography can sort by author's last name.  I'm sure
 this is all part of migrating one's sources over to the v7 format.  I
 just want to make sure every effort is made to pull as much from
 _Evidence Explained_ as possible because it is such a great resource.
 
 Thanks,
 --
 Gail Rich Nestor
 Smyrna, Georgia
 www.roots2buds.net

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Without giving away too much, the v7 will allow you to continue with the
existing sources, or use the new templates. Like Gail mentioned, they will
offer the additional flexibility that v6 currently does not have. You will
have the ability to create your own templates, adjust the existing ones,
etc. Personally, I can't wait to have them fully operational. For years we
have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired output. In
v7, you won't have to wonder.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Nestor
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

I sort of think that some might be missing part of my point.  I made
not have made it very clear in my earlier note and if so, I apologize.
 I'm actually asking for much *more* flexibility with source citation
than we currently have.   Right now, the output order, format, etc. is
totally set and you cannot change it to suit your needs.  The author
goes in one spot, the title in another, and the publication facts in
their own.  There can be no blending of master source fields with
citation detail fields in the output from v6.  I'm asking for and
hoping for much more flexibility in v7 to create whatever output order
I want (Mills style or not).

Although Geoff's interview highlighted the templates as a way to take
out the guesswork with sources and make them standardized, I do
believe the new source templates (and ability to create one's own
custom template) will give this much-needed flexibility, yet not force
everyone to start with a blank piece of paper if they don't want to.

I do respect everyone's desire to do sources their own way and don't
want to push one method over another.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net



On 8/27/07, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron
 I have to agree with you. I do not want Ms. Mills or anyone telling me how
 and what I must have in my sources and citations. Legacy has always
allowed
 us to enter and format everything that is needed to properly state where
 your information comes from.

 Don Brown
 Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:46 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


 Gail,

 Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a
 format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will
 maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

 One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to suit
 different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my
 opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar of
 standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo
all

 my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything
else
 for that matter.

 Ron Ferguson



 _

 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400
 
 Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
 Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
 Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
 sound very promising!
 
 I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
 hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
 incorporates as much of this second book as possible.  There is so
 much more information here and the source components are carefully
 described and laid out.  Mills' first book certainly still stands on
 its own merit, but the new book expands to many other types of sources
 and does justice to all the online resources people use more often
 these days.
 
 Renees' post said that there will be bibliography output capability
 and I really look forward to this.  The formatting is different
 between a footnote and a bibliography.  While v6 will provide a master
 source list, it does not put the components in bibliography format,
 which has periods instead of commas and does not include the citation
 detail.
 
 I'm seeing

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread agh3rd




Hmmm sounds like TMG in drag!
*Grin*



-Original Message-
From: Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 5:34 pm
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills



Without giving away too much, the v7 will allow you to continue with 
the
existing sources, or use the new templates. Like Gail mentioned, they 
will
offer the additional flexibility that v6 currently does not have. You 
will

have the ability to create your own templates, adjust the existing ones,
etc. Personally, I can't wait to have them fully operational. For years 
we
have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired 
output. In

v7, you won't have to wonder.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Later this year

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Quest
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

Is there any news on when version 7 will be launched?

Karima

- Original Message - 
From: Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


 Without giving away too much, the v7 will allow you to continue with the
 existing sources, or use the new templates. Like Gail mentioned, they will
 offer the additional flexibility that v6 currently does not have. You will
 have the ability to create your own templates, adjust the existing ones,
 etc. Personally, I can't wait to have them fully operational. For years we
 have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired output. 
 In
 v7, you won't have to wonder.

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread ronald ferguson


Thank you, Geoff, for the reassurance.

Ron Ferguson



_

For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
*Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






From: Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:34:33 -0700

Without giving away too much, the v7 will allow you to continue with the
existing sources, or use the new templates. Like Gail mentioned, they will
offer the additional flexibility that v6 currently does not have. You will
have the ability to create your own templates, adjust the existing ones,
etc. Personally, I can't wait to have them fully operational. For years we
have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired output. In
v7, you won't have to wonder.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail 
Nestor

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

I sort of think that some might be missing part of my point.  I made
not have made it very clear in my earlier note and if so, I apologize.
 I'm actually asking for much *more* flexibility with source citation
than we currently have.   Right now, the output order, format, etc. is
totally set and you cannot change it to suit your needs.  The author
goes in one spot, the title in another, and the publication facts in
their own.  There can be no blending of master source fields with
citation detail fields in the output from v6.  I'm asking for and
hoping for much more flexibility in v7 to create whatever output order
I want (Mills style or not).

Although Geoff's interview highlighted the templates as a way to take
out the guesswork with sources and make them standardized, I do
believe the new source templates (and ability to create one's own
custom template) will give this much-needed flexibility, yet not force
everyone to start with a blank piece of paper if they don't want to.

I do respect everyone's desire to do sources their own way and don't
want to push one method over another.

Gail Rich Nestor
Smyrna, GA
www.roots2buds.net



On 8/27/07, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ron
 I have to agree with you. I do not want Ms. Mills or anyone telling me 
how

 and what I must have in my sources and citations. Legacy has always
allowed
 us to enter and format everything that is needed to properly state where
 your information comes from.

 Don Brown
 Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:46 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


 Gail,

 Whilst have no feeling one way or the other about Legacy accomodating a
 format compatible with Mills's latest output, I would hope that it will
 maintain the flexibility that has characterised the program.

 One of the strengths of Legacy is the way in which it can be used to 
suit

 different countries, cultures and individual ways of working and in my
 opinion it would be most regrettable if this is sacrificed on the altar 
of

 standardisation. In particular I have no wish whatsoever to have to redo
all

 my web pages because of a change in the format of sources, or anything
else
 for that matter.

 Ron Ferguson



 _

 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 _





 From: Gail Nestor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: Legacy User Group LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills
 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:30:01 -0400
 
 Hi user group and Legacy staff, I listened to Geoff's interview with
 Dear Myrt and carefully read Renee Zamora's blog entries about the v7
 Sneak Peek.  All the information on sources and bibliography creation
 sound very promising!
 
 I know that _Evidence Explained_ just came out this month, but I truly
 hope that the powers that be will make sure the v7 source template
 incorporates as much of this second

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills

2007-08-27 Thread mike swain
For years we have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired 
output. In
v7, you won't have to wonder.


Geoff,
thank you, thank you, thank you, and I have only been waiting for  a few 
months. A week or so ago I asked if anyone had developed a chart showing where 
the various input locations actually did or did not come out. I haven't yet 
received a response. Perhaps this could be included in the help system? At the 
moment I am entering some cemetery records and with my limited knowledge of the 
program, I can find 13 different places where the whole or parts of this info. 
could go. The downside of flexibility for the inexperienced.
 
regards
 
Mike

- Original Message 
From: Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August, 2007 8:34:33 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy v7 - Sources based on _Evidence_ by Mills


Without giving away too much, the v7 will allow you to continue with the
existing sources, or use the new templates. Like Gail mentioned, they will
offer the additional flexibility that v6 currently does not have. You will
have the ability to create your own templates, adjust the existing ones,
etc. Personally, I can't wait to have them fully operational. For years we
have had to wonder exactly what goes where to attain the desired output. In
v7, you won't have to wonder.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


  

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