Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
Probably done accidentally but it is a good way to harvest EMail addresses by collecting all the Read Receipts to indicate live accounts. MB From: Lisa Davis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, 1 November, 2009 17:22:57 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I figure once they receive tons of msgs of "yes, your post was read", they will turn it off. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
Not a big deal. I was able to turn it off but as you said I usually just cancel them because I figure the person probably doesn't realize they have it turned on until they receive a ton of read receipts. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Laurie Nelson Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message Bill, I'm one of the users who requests read receipts. On the other mail lists I belong to (all on rootsweb), they are turned off, so I was surprised when I started getting read receipts from members of this list. I have requested read receipts because, as a volunteer, I needed to know when my important messages were received even if the receiver(s) didn't have time or take the time to respond. As a genealogy enthusiast, I also need to know whether my messages are read. If not, I might need to contact that person again. I didn't mean to cause havoc in this list. I thought they were sent only because I chose Reply All instead of just Reply, but I'm not sure. I will try to turn off read receipts just for messages to this list or else stop sending messages to it altogether, if that doesn't work. As others have pointed out, most email programs allow you to turn off even viewing requests for read receipts. Personally when I receive one from someone I don't know, I ignore it. Thanks for bringing this up. I've intended to apologize for the read receipts, but have been busy with other things. Laurie Nelson -- From: "William H. Boswell" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:09 PM To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message > I tried Thunderbird a couple of years ago and hated it. Their web > browser, > Firefox, was good until it kept crashing all the time so I removed it as > well. Mozilla products are on my list of programs to avoid. > > I never switched to later versions of Microsoft Office because they became > user unfriendly by taking away features I liked in the 2000 version. > Actually I like Open Office better, which is free, but it doesn't have > email > software. > > I will look and see if I can turn them off, but I think the turning off > should be done from those requesting the receipts. I just think the two > subscribers should be aware that some of us are getting these messages and > they are unnecessary. I belong to a number of other lists and never > receive > these so perhaps those email systems eliminate these messages entirely. > > Save the return receipts for the post office. They hold up better in > court > than emails as I know from previous experience in court. > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > Behalf Of Gene Young > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:47 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message > > > William H. Boswell wrote: >> I'm using the 2000 version which is very old so maybe that's why nobody > else >> is getting these. >> > > I use Mozilla Thunderbird and it also has a means to ignore read > receipts and I never see them. Ignoring them is always the best policy > as spammers and phishers will utilize them to verify a live email > address which they then hammer and sell to other spammers. > > If you can not turn off automatic responses to read receipts in Outlook > 2000 I would strongly suggest changing your email client to Thunderbird > or any other client that allows this. I suggest Thunderbird because it > is free and works very well. > > > > -- > Gene Y. > http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm > Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with > Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
Bill, I'm one of the users who requests read receipts. On the other mail lists I belong to (all on rootsweb), they are turned off, so I was surprised when I started getting read receipts from members of this list. I have requested read receipts because, as a volunteer, I needed to know when my important messages were received even if the receiver(s) didn't have time or take the time to respond. As a genealogy enthusiast, I also need to know whether my messages are read. If not, I might need to contact that person again. I didn't mean to cause havoc in this list. I thought they were sent only because I chose Reply All instead of just Reply, but I'm not sure. I will try to turn off read receipts just for messages to this list or else stop sending messages to it altogether, if that doesn't work. As others have pointed out, most email programs allow you to turn off even viewing requests for read receipts. Personally when I receive one from someone I don't know, I ignore it. Thanks for bringing this up. I've intended to apologize for the read receipts, but have been busy with other things. Laurie Nelson -- From: "William H. Boswell" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:09 PM To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I tried Thunderbird a couple of years ago and hated it. Their web browser, Firefox, was good until it kept crashing all the time so I removed it as well. Mozilla products are on my list of programs to avoid. I never switched to later versions of Microsoft Office because they became user unfriendly by taking away features I liked in the 2000 version. Actually I like Open Office better, which is free, but it doesn't have email software. I will look and see if I can turn them off, but I think the turning off should be done from those requesting the receipts. I just think the two subscribers should be aware that some of us are getting these messages and they are unnecessary. I belong to a number of other lists and never receive these so perhaps those email systems eliminate these messages entirely. Save the return receipts for the post office. They hold up better in court than emails as I know from previous experience in court. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Gene Young Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message William H. Boswell wrote: I'm using the 2000 version which is very old so maybe that's why nobody else is getting these. I use Mozilla Thunderbird and it also has a means to ignore read receipts and I never see them. Ignoring them is always the best policy as spammers and phishers will utilize them to verify a live email address which they then hammer and sell to other spammers. If you can not turn off automatic responses to read receipts in Outlook 2000 I would strongly suggest changing your email client to Thunderbird or any other client that allows this. I suggest Thunderbird because it is free and works very well. -- Gene Y. http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I get the "receipt requested" e-mails, sigh heavily and answer. I wish people would not ask, though. My sister sends stuff to me from work and her messages ask all the time. It is possible to continue anyway, but if you open the message again, you get the request again. (I do not use Outlook, but SeaMonkey). Elizabeth C Kay Fordham wrote: Hi William, I use Microsoft Outlook and have set my options not to notify me when a read receipt is requested, as well as never send a read receipt. I never see these notices. Don't know about Microsoft Outlook. Kay - Original Message - From: "William H. Boswell" To: "Legacy Family Tree List" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a Read Receipt for their messages. While not a big problem, but unnecessary for a list such as this. Usually this is used solely for the purpose of business emails and should be turned off. I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I found it and turned it off in my old version of Outlook. Sorry to be a pain in the rear, but as was said it's also a way for spammers to find live email addresses. I have enough problems with my computer as it is and don't need any help to make it any slower. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I tried Thunderbird a couple of years ago and hated it. Their web browser, Firefox, was good until it kept crashing all the time so I removed it as well. Mozilla products are on my list of programs to avoid. I never switched to later versions of Microsoft Office because they became user unfriendly by taking away features I liked in the 2000 version. Actually I like Open Office better, which is free, but it doesn't have email software. I will look and see if I can turn them off, but I think the turning off should be done from those requesting the receipts. I just think the two subscribers should be aware that some of us are getting these messages and they are unnecessary. I belong to a number of other lists and never receive these so perhaps those email systems eliminate these messages entirely. Save the return receipts for the post office. They hold up better in court than emails as I know from previous experience in court. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Gene Young Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message William H. Boswell wrote: > I'm using the 2000 version which is very old so maybe that's why nobody else > is getting these. > I use Mozilla Thunderbird and it also has a means to ignore read receipts and I never see them. Ignoring them is always the best policy as spammers and phishers will utilize them to verify a live email address which they then hammer and sell to other spammers. If you can not turn off automatic responses to read receipts in Outlook 2000 I would strongly suggest changing your email client to Thunderbird or any other client that allows this. I suggest Thunderbird because it is free and works very well. -- Gene Y. http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
William H. Boswell wrote: I'm using the 2000 version which is very old so maybe that's why nobody else is getting these. I use Mozilla Thunderbird and it also has a means to ignore read receipts and I never see them. Ignoring them is always the best policy as spammers and phishers will utilize them to verify a live email address which they then hammer and sell to other spammers. If you can not turn off automatic responses to read receipts in Outlook 2000 I would strongly suggest changing your email client to Thunderbird or any other client that allows this. I suggest Thunderbird because it is free and works very well. -- Gene Y. http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Researching Young, Zies, Harer & Cox with Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I'm using the 2000 version which is very old so maybe that's why nobody else is getting these. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of Kay Fordham Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:13 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message Hi William, I use Microsoft Outlook and have set my options not to notify me when a read receipt is requested, as well as never send a read receipt. I never see these notices. Don't know about Microsoft Outlook. Kay - Original Message - From: "William H. Boswell" To: "Legacy Family Tree List" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message > I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a > Read Receipt for their messages. While not a big problem, but unnecessary > for a list such as this. Usually this is used solely for the purpose of > business emails and should be turned off. > > I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because > I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook. > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I have always assumed most of these folk were required in business, to run the receipt, and forget it is running in the background. It seems to come up about 2-3 times a year, and is self monitored. Some newbies may see the message to someone else, and turn theirs off in advance. And when the sender recieves hundreds of requests to turn it off, it normally works. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: William H. Boswell To: Legacy Family Tree List Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 8:56:12 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a Read Receipt for their messages. While not a big problem, but unnecessary for a list such as this. Usually this is used solely for the purpose of business emails and should be turned off. I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
I figure once they receive tons of msgs of "yes, your post was read", they will turn it off. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of William H. Boswell Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:56 AM To: Legacy Family Tree List Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a Read Receipt for their messages. While not a big problem, but unnecessary for a list such as this. Usually this is used solely for the purpose of business emails and should be turned off. I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message
Hi William, I use Microsoft Outlook and have set my options not to notify me when a read receipt is requested, as well as never send a read receipt. I never see these notices. Don't know about Microsoft Outlook. Kay - Original Message - From: "William H. Boswell" To: "Legacy Family Tree List" Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:56 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Read Receipt for Message I've noticed recently that a few users are using the option requesting a Read Receipt for their messages. While not a big problem, but unnecessary for a list such as this. Usually this is used solely for the purpose of business emails and should be turned off. I'm surprised nobody else has noticed or said anything unless it's because I'm using a very old version of Microsoft Outlook. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
