Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Access is notorious. To quote from a programmer who was referring to Legacy although not the issue at hand, "I often have to migrate clients' stuff from Access to something better because Access crashes when it reaches its maximum file size, gets incredibly unpredictable when it gets close, and slows to a crawl when it's about halfway there." Alas. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct > ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the > other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one > brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! > Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection > between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, > incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th > GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In > this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a > 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. > Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being > my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line > Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering > confuses the program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On > Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' > lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different > colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are > found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for > purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since > each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I > was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, > then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found > it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same > problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had > it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours > later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many > people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, > because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to > have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Access is notorious. To quote from a programmer who was referring to Legacy although not the issue at hand, "I often have to migrate clients' stuff from Access to something better because Access crashes when it reaches its maximum file size, gets incredibly unpredictable when it gets close, and slows to a crawl when it's about halfway there." Alas. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct > ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the > other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one > brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! > Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection > between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, > incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th > GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In > this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a > 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. > Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being > my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line > Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering > confuses the program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On > Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' > lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different > colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are > found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for > purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since > each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I > was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, > then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found > it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same > problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had > it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours > later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many > people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, > because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to > have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
OP is short for Original Poster - the person who started the thread. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Who is "OP"? Me? Mine was the email at the bottom of this miles-long thread I just snipped. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:50:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY relationship possible between them. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.98/2371 - Release Date: 09/16/09 17:49:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I just ran Relationship Calculator using Charlemange on one side and the husband of a currently living descendant on the other (to get the married to stuff). The program found 5 lines, I chose one, and it created a 6 page report, with about 6-8 people per page. Each has a box with details of that person and spouse. Have you not gone to the print after finding the results? I can print each grouping separately. Easy to count. I must be misunderstanding you. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:44:05 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY relationship possible between them. As then mentioned, other programs have had this capability for many years. Does Legacy?, was asked. Sherry from Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship Calculator instead. That's when I began posting, because Support has no answer, and I was hoping LUG would. The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years ago - with no resolution or help from Support. If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report between two persons, I could count the generations myself! But there is NO such capability! I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, > as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other > as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is > shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship > Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists > is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the > Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I > said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot > understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who > is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line > are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry > Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two > functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the > program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, > ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you > expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found > between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of > analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each > line is a direct line, everyone on that line sh
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Who is "OP"? Me? Mine was the email at the bottom of this miles-long thread I just snipped. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:50:46 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY relationship possible between them. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY relationship possible between them. As then mentioned, other programs have had this capability for many years. Does Legacy?, was asked. Sherry from Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship Calculator instead. That's when I began posting, because Support has no answer, and I was hoping LUG would. The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years ago - with no resolution or help from Support. If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report between two persons, I could count the generations myself! But there is NO such capability! I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, > as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other > as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is > shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship > Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists > is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the > Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I > said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot > understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who > is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line > are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry > Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two > functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the > program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, > ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you > expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found > between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of > analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each > line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was > using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I > eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was > faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a > external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may > need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com &
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
This whole thread began because the OP wanted, as I do, a chart of the DIRECT relationship between two persons, not a calculation of EVERY relationship possible between them. As then mentioned, other programs have had this capability for many years. Does Legacy?, was asked. Sherry from Support said that Legacy does not and suggested using Relationship Calculator instead. That's when I began posting, because Support has no answer, and I was hoping LUG would. The problem with Relationship Calculator first appeared in LUG 5 or 6 years ago - with no resolution or help from Support. If it were possible to create a Direct Descent (or Ascent) Chart/Report between two persons, I could count the generations myself! But there is NO such capability! I presume the problem with the programming is why there is no Direct Relationship Report or Chart - Legacy can't do such. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:20 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, > as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other > as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is > shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship > Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists > is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the > Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I > said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot > understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who > is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line > are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry > Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two > functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the > program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, > ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you > expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found > between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of > analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each > line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was > using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I > eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was > faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a > external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may > need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com &
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
As somebody else suggested - are you certain that you PC is big enough, ie. enough memory, to handle your request? Have you tried increasing the virtual memory - if your hard drive is big enough? I still maintain that your setting of 50 is probably too low for all the blood relationships to be calculated. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:06:51 -0700 > > I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, > as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. > > It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other > as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, > intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is > shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship > Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists > is my 28th GGU. > > That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the > Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I > said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot > understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who > is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line > are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry > Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two > functions do not deal with the math. > > It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the > program. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, > ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you > expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. > Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? > Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found > between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of > analyzing where the divergences are? > Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each > line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a > marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. > The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was > using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I > eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was > faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a > external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may > need more power. I did. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, > returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or > numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling > to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The > default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the > same problem has persisted. > > Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would > work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - > Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > > > And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the > OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who > cannot be shown
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
The chart wanted is a DIRECT descent from one person to another - something Legacy does not provide. A suggestion was made to the OP to use Relationship Calculator instead. My responses have been to the danger with doing that because Relationship Calculator has a serious problem that Legacy has been unable to deal with. Trying to create a direct descent chart from my aforementioned ancestor would be impossible for Legacy because, according to Relationship Calculator, I am not a direct descendant of his. Legacy, being unable to reliably calculate relationships, cannot reliably create descent or ancestry charts. So using Relationship Calculator is not a viable solution to the direct descent chart missing from Legacy. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at all. What chart are you creating? It sounds like you are using Relationship Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify. (I guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or the legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use. I had a document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but I lent it to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It dealt mostly in the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance issues of royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting quirks in the rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to find a similar document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have them in my DB, I can compare your report to mine. Send privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Using the Descendant - Descendant chart. It doesn't show any brothers at all. What chart are you creating? It sounds like you are using Relationship Calculator, but the name in your message has something I couldn't identify. (I guessed it). are you basing your right and wrong on your ideas (I am) or the legal rules of inheritance, which I think most if not all programs use. I had a document of over twenty pages which described who was 'closer', but I lent it to someone who never returned it. I never found another one. It dealt mostly in the spread of 3 -5 generations, but handled inheritance issues of royalty/nobility of over 10 generations. It had some interesting quirks in the rules. I don't even remember the name of it. You may want to find a similar document. If you gave me the names of your people, and I have them in my DB, I can compare your report to mine. Send privately. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:06:51 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behal
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Several of us have asked that there be a way to generate a direct line connection - ascent or descent - without calculating any relationships other than the one between those two people. Start with me and go in a direct line to an ancestor (or vice-versa). I care not at all for all the extraneous relationships I have to the ancestor. I care only for the direct relationship. We have also asked, repeatedly, that, instead of showing the CLOSEST relationship in Family and Pedigree view, that Legacy shows the DIRECT relationship. But, as I have said, it may be the math that is the stumbling block to both requests. I just wish they would say so. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:14 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart You say: >Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would > work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - > Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > I would suggest that you are comparing apples and pears here. In your first paragraph you are only asking Legacy to identify people who are direct line ancestors, whereas in the second you are asking for *all* relations to be identified *and* for the relationship to be prioritised. I do not know the method Legacy uses to do the Relationship Calculator, but it may be that it identifies all the relatives before it prioritises. In which case if I am correct in saying that 50 blood relatives is far too few for a DB of 29 generations then it will not reach the final stage and your relatives will be incorrectly labelled. If it cannot analyse a DB of your size, then I would agree if you said the Help File should say that. However, I guess like most people on this list, I cannot check as my file is too small. If it is any guide, to examine and correctly identify/verify a 8th generation ancestor my file looked at all my (very nearly) 5000 records and the process took 26 seconds. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:07:07 -0700 > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, > returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or > numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling > to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The > default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the > same problem has persisted. > > Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would > work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - > Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > > > And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the > OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who > cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > > Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you > limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 > generations you will exceed that number by far. > > > The default is, of course, 999. > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fe
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I have no problem with Ancestry Colors. The 28th GGU is a direct ancestor, as is his brother. Ancestry Colors are correct; Direct Line Bold is color. It is the Calculator which shows one (full) brother as a GGF and the other as a GGU. Because of generations marrying at different times, intermarriages, multiple lines of ascent to the same person, one brother is shown as a 28th GGF, but the other as a 28th GGU! Accordingly, Relationship Calculator shows no direct connection between me and the person it insists is my 28th GGU. That incorrectly called 28th GGU had a son, who is called, incorrectly, the Husband of my 26th GGM rather than my 26th or 27th GGF (He is both). As I said, Legacy has a problem with the math. In this case, it cannot understand that a 29th GGF had one son who is a 28th GGF and also a son who is both a 26th and a 28th GGF. Accordingly, all the children in his line are not calculating as being my direct ancestors by Calculator. Ancestry Colors and Direct Line Bold show them as direct ancestors, but those two functions do not deal with the math. It seems impossible for Legacy to do this because the numbering confuses the program. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 > > Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that > this problem is an very old one. &
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Does Legacy have a Lineage Report in a chart format? If so, this would solve a big problem for me. Mike Barberi In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus autem caritas. In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, but in all things love. St. Augustine (A.D. 354 - 430) From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one "leg" of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean t
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
So you are saying that, when using the four colors for grandparents' lines, ancestors of yours which are showing (apparently) different colors than you expect, meaning they come through a different grandparent. Question 1. Is this person in both gp lines? Question 2. When running the program, how many different lines are found between the 2 people. Have you printed all of them ( for purposes of analyzing where the divergences are? Since I don't use the four colors, I can't help with that, but since each line is a direct line, everyone on that line should match until a marriage to another color supersedes, using the internal rules. The 'increasing to 50' is actually a hard drive/ram problem. When I was using my desktop using L5, using the tools, slowed to snail pace, then I eventually 'pressed the button'. When I got my laptop, I found it was faster, and took a much larger report to get to the same problem. I bought a external hard drive 3 weeks ago, and haven't had it 'crash' yet. You may need more power. I did. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:07:07 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 > > Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that > this problem is an very old one. > > > FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN > EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the > ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of > a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who > IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in > the additional relationships! > > At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then > to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course > then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least > Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. > > > > > > PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times > as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. > > Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, > preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is > finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect > that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was > 29th GGF. > > Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorr
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
You say: >Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would > work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - > Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > I would suggest that you are comparing apples and pears here. In your first paragraph you are only asking Legacy to identify people who are direct line ancestors, whereas in the second you are asking for *all* relations to be identified *and* for the relationship to be prioritised. I do not know the method Legacy uses to do the Relationship Calculator, but it may be that it identifies all the relatives before it prioritises. In which case if I am correct in saying that 50 blood relatives is far too few for a DB of 29 generations then it will not reach the final stage and your relatives will be incorrectly labelled. If it cannot analyse a DB of your size, then I would agree if you said the Help File should say that. However, I guess like most people on this list, I cannot check as my file is too small. If it is any guide, to examine and correctly identify/verify a 8th generation ancestor my file looked at all my (very nearly) 5000 records and the process took 26 seconds. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:07:07 -0700 > > Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, > returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or > numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling > to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The > default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the > same problem has persisted. > > Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. > Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line > Bolding. > > Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would > work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - > Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. > > > And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the > OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who > cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of ronald ferguson > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > > Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you > limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 > generations you will exceed that number by far. > > > The default is, of course, 999. > > Ron Ferguson > > _ > > New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _____________________ > > > > > > > >> From: wood...@msn.com >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart >> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 >> >> Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that >> this problem is an very old one. >> >> >> FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO > AN >> EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: >> >> It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the >> ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter > of >> a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who >> IS
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I will take a look at that. Thx! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:53:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Here is the actual request (my paraphrase)? Can we add a source button to include in the Relationship Calculator, to have a print choice. It might be a bit cumbersome, but you could have it print only the tagged sources. This could be done better (IMO) in Publishing Center. Then you can print the RC, finishing with the desired Sources. In each case, I would want to pick through the sources, each time I print the RC anyway. Or did you want all the descendants, or a report including only the tagged children? Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one "leg" of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, b
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Because every time I have tried to increase from 50, Legacy, hours later, returns the message that it cannot do it because it's too many people (or numbers, or something). I forget the actual wording, because I am unwilling to tie up my computer for that long just to have it return the message. The default may be 999, but not for my file. Over many Legacy versions, the same problem has persisted. Only Relationship Calculator/Set Relationships that has this problem. Ancestry Colors quickly finds he is my ancestor, as does Direct Line Bolding. Therefore, one would think that limiting the Blood Relationships to 1 would work. It does not. That is why I think it is a mathematical problem - Legacy can't figure out how, say, a 29th GGA is the child of a 26th GGA. And, with no capability to do a direct ancestry or descent, about which the OP was asking, I have a correctly colored, bolded, direct ancestor who cannot be shown as such by Relationship Calculator. CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:45 AM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 > > Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that > this problem is an very old one. > > > FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN > EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the > ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of > a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who > IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in > the additional relationships! > > At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then > to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course > then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least > Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. > > > > > > PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times > as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. > > Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, > preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is > finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect > that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was > 29th GGF. > > Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly > calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the > Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! > > Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd > GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the > intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. > > Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU, > is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM, > BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th > GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly > calculated as 28th GGU. > > Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all > find that relationship; just not the Calculator! > > I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT > is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll > bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship, > it could calculate correctly. > > Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported > YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't d
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Here is the actual request (my paraphrase)? Can we add a source button to include in the Relationship Calculator, to have a print choice. It might be a bit cumbersome, but you could have it print only the tagged sources. This could be done better (IMO) in Publishing Center. Then you can print the RC, finishing with the desired Sources. In each case, I would want to pick through the sources, each time I print the RC anyway. Or did you want all the descendants, or a report including only the tagged children? Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:09:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one "leg" of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spo
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Out of interest, as I have no way of replicating your problem, why have you limited the number of Blood Relationships to 50? It seems to me that with 29 generations you will exceed that number by far. The default is, of course, 999. Ron Ferguson _ New Tutorial: Embed a Blogger RSS feed on your webpage http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ > From: wood...@msn.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:42:51 -0700 > > Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that > this problem is an very old one. > > > FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN > EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the > ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of > a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who > IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in > the additional relationships! > > At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then > to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course > then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least > Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. > > > > > > PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: > > Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times > as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. > > Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, > preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is > finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect > that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was > 29th GGF. > > Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly > calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the > Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! > > Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd > GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the > intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. > > Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU, > is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM, > BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th > GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly > calculated as 28th GGU. > > Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all > find that relationship; just not the Calculator! > > I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT > is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll > bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship, > it could calculate correctly. > > Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported > YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations when > they get complicated!!! > > > CE > > -----Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If > there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which > should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to > Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither > confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I > didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors. > Sorry if I missunderstand the issue. > Rich in LA CA > > > > - Original Message > From: CE Wood > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart > > That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR > WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian ha
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Just do a search of the LUG archives on this, and you will discover that this problem is an very old one. FOLLOW-UP EMAIL TO BRIAN THAT WAS NOT RESPONDED TO AND WAS A FOLLOW-UP TO AN EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: It is not just one family where this occurs, but ALL families where the ascents result in, for instance, a 29th GGancestor being the son/daughter of a 26th GGancestor. The program will simply not list that son/daughter, who IS a direct ancestor, as being a GGGrandfather/GGGrandmother - not even in the additional relationships! At the very least, warn people of this flaw in the program, and advise then to rely on Ancestor Color Coding and Direct Line Bolding instead. Of course then, we cannot not know the generation number of the ancestor, but at least Legacy won't be displaying the wrong relationship the way it does now. PREVIOUS EMAIL THAT BRIAN DID NOT RESPOND TO: Using Blood Rels = 50 and Non-blood = 10: Bernard is listed countless times as 28th GGUncle and countless times as 29th GGUncle. Following down his descendants, who as he, are correctly color-coded, preferred direct line bold, and ancestor tagged, his GGGranddaughter is finally shown having an additional relationship of 29th GGM. But I suspect that is only because Calculator was able to figure out that her husband was 29th GGF. Now please explain why her ancestors, back to the father of my incorrectly calculated 28th GGU, cannot be calculated. There is a flaw in the Calculator, or else it is useless when the going gets tough! Legacy can't seem to calculate how a 29th GGM of mine, Milia, can be the 2nd GGD of another of my 29th GGMs (and 29th GGFs), so it just makes the intervening ancestors not direct ancestors. Also, Berenger, Milia's 3rd GGF, father of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU, is related as my 29th GGF, as my 30th GGF, and as husband of my 29th GGM, BUT only through his daughter, full sister of the incorrectly marked 28th GGU. He is related through both his daughter and son, incorrectly calculated as 28th GGU. Ancestry color coding, preferred direct line, and ancestor tagging can all find that relationship; just not the Calculator! I really don't care about the extraneous relationships. What is IMPORTANT is the DIRECT ancestral line, which Relationship Calculator can't do. I'll bet that if the Calculator wasn't trying to figure the CLOSEST relationship, it could calculate correctly. Relationship Calculator obviously can't figure this out, as others reported YEARS AGO, so you should warn people that it can't do the calculations when they get complicated!!! CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD SCHULTHIES Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors. Sorry if I missunderstand the issue. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Line
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Last I heard they were considering/awaiting permission from DAR. Not an official thing but discussed at a convention. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:05:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I wasn't intending to have a report from Legacy duplicate the form DAR (or another organization) requires. Just wanted a more flexible worksheet. I will make the suggestion and see where that takes us! ;) Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart ra
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
It has always worked for me. It is to show the path between two people. If there are multiple paths, the computer uses a sort technique judging which should come first. When I have used it to show my son's connection to Charlemange, it came up with over fifty diffferent paths. I neither confirmed nor judged if the order of the lists was accurate. I guess I didn't understand why you thought it outputting errors. Sorry if I missunderstand the issue. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:49:36 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.95/2368 - Release Date: 09/14/09 17:52:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Rich, I use Deluxe, too. There is a Lineage report, that shows the spouse and siblings of each MALE in a direct line. You specify where to start, and it works back from there. What I suggested was the same CONTENT (spouses and siblings of each PERSON in a direct line), but allow us to select the starting AND ending person, then the program has to work from person A to person B, which might include one or more FEMALES. I think you can see how the logic to work through the lineage is the same as one "leg" of the RC, once the ending person is determined (the common ancestor). In this new report, we would enter the ancestor, so it would only use the second half of the RC logic. (I also asked to be able to include source citations.) --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:48:04 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant o
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
It is already there. I was asking what was wanted, that wasn't in the Tools\Relationship Calculator, and did not understand the answer. Unless this is for Deluxe only. I have always had Deluxe so never new what might be missing. Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Nope. There's no way for users to track their submitted suggestions. They get passed to the programmers and logged and the ultimate decision whether or not it's workable is up to them. In fact, due to the sheer volume of emails, we only respond to suggestions if the feature is already available in Legacy (you'd be surprised how many people suggest features that are already there!) Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I did enter a suggestion. Sherry, How do I track it? Can I? Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Maybe I will refresh my memory on the issues with RC, but I've never had a problem with it. --Paula - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:49:36 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.95/2368 - Release Date: 09/14/09 17:52:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I did enter a suggestion. Sherry, How do I track it? Can I? Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:49:36 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.95/2368 - Release Date: 09/14/09 17:52:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I wasn't intending to have a report from Legacy duplicate the form DAR (or another organization) requires. Just wanted a more flexible worksheet. I will make the suggestion and see where that takes us! ;) Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: CE Wood To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:46:02 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >>> chart &
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
That would be fine for collecting the data, IF ONLY RELATIOSHIP CALCULATOR WORKED! My many requests and emails to Brian have elicited neither an explanation for this long-standing problem with Relationship Calculator, nor a solution. Old LUG posts attest to this being unresolved for many years CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Sherry/Support Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.95/2368 - Release Date: 09/14/09 17:52:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I used that tool to help me fill in lineage group forms. (In L5?) I printed out the Relationship Calcualtor for my family member on one side and the ancestor on the other. Then hand copying the details. Some of the organizations are in process of getting a gedcom - based download system, but each group has its' own needs. What is the suggestion? Rich in LA CA - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >>> chart >>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's >>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then >>> a >>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired >>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course >>> depend >>> on the number of generations and the number of children in each >>> generation. >>> >>> Is this what you're looking for? >>> >>> John S. Adams >>> Hermosa Beach, CA >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Chick Lewis" >>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:26 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cr
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
Let's each make that suggestion to Legacy! It IS an important aspect to genealogy, after all, and since FTM has had such a capability for umpteen years, I am sure Legacy programmers can do likewise CE -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Terri Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >>> chart >>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's >>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then >>> a >>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired >>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course >>> depend >>> on the number of generations and th
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I don't know about anyone else but I could use a lineage report like you described. I noticed the same results trying to run lineage reports for Mayflower Society and other lineage society applications. I ended up tagging each individual and running some report (don't remember which) from there. Terri - Original Message From: Paula Ryburn To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:23:34 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >>> chart >>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's >>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then >>> a >>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired >>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course >>> depend >>> on the number of generations and the number of children in each >>> generation. >>> >>> Is this what you're looking for? >>> >>> John S. Adams >>> Hermosa Beach, CA >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Chick Lewis" >>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:26 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books >>> >>>> Alastair,
RE: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
I used the Relationship Chart from the Relationship Calculator as a worksheet. Of course, DAR won't accept that because they have their own forms for you to fill out. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Paula Ryburn Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books--direct descendent chart
This reminds me of a need I had a while back, when working on a DAR application. I needed the Lineage report, but I needed it to "know" the lineage between me and my Patriot. The Lineage report now just starts at one end and goes through the male line. I my lineage went through my mother and her mother, then all men. Does this sound line anything anyone else would use? It's sort of a combination of the Lineage report (shows spouse and siblings) and one side of the Relationship Calculator (which works its way through men and women). Think I might just make a suggestion... Thanks, --Paula - Original Message From: Chick Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books Exactly right, Valerie. Thanks for explaining it better than I could. Neither a DNA chart nor Relationship will do the same thing. Chick On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Valerie Laskowski wrote: > No, he is referring to taking an ancestor say from the 15th century and > having a descendant chart from them to yourself in the most DIRECT route. > The descendant chart options in FTM had this feature. > > At a glance, I think the DNA charts are closest to this, but I will have to > make one for myself to see if it matches. > Valerie > > -Original Message- > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > Of John S. Adams > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:49 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Cc: cglewi...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > > Chick, > Drop down chart is the classic descendant chart which has the starting > couple on the top line (usually in a box or boxes) with their children and > spouses on the second line, grandchildren on the third line, ggrandchildren > on the fourth, etc. In Legacy Charting it is the Standard Descendant Chart > type. > > By "direct descendant chart," do you mean the chart described above without > showing spouses for the children, grandchildren, etc.? > > John S. Adams > Hermosa Beach, CA > > -- > From: "Chick Lewis" > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books > >> John, >> >> Thanks, but that is still a bit un-wieldly with large families. That >> method would work great with a direct descendant only chart. In fact, >> I use that method to create multiple page ancestor charts, 4 >> generations at a time. I am not sure I know what a drop-down >> descendant chart is. Is it printable in a book or a web page? >> >> FTM16 had the capability of producing direct descendant charts, but I >> rather not go back to it. Does anyone know if one of the Legacy >> add-on charting programs can do a direct descendant chart? >> >> Chick >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John S. Adams >> wrote: >>> Chick, >>> >>> I assume you want a drop down descendant chart rather than the line or >>> box >>> descendant chart you can create in Legacy from the Reports menu. >>> >>> You could create a multiple page, multiple generation, descendant chart >>> with >>> Legacy Charting by making a series of 2 generation charts. The first >>> chart >>> would show the starting couple with all their children and children's >>> spouses. Then create a 2 generation chart for each of the children. Then >>> a >>> chart for each of their children, etc., until you've covered the desired >>> number of generations. The number of pages required would of course >>> depend >>> on the number of generations and the number of children in each >>> generation. >>> >>> Is this what you're looking for? >>> >>> John S. Adams >>> Hermosa Beach, CA >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Chick Lewis" >>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:26 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Creating Books >>> Alastair, Thank you for your response. I am not ready to publish as yet. I am still trying to determine what should go in the book and what type of charts to use. It is difficult to create a readable chart with more than 4 generations on a single standard size page. An ancestor chart or pedigree chart can easily span several generations with continuations to other pages, but that does not work very well with descendant charts. I am looking for a way to create a descendant chart in multiple pages suitable for a book. Another possible way to reduce the size of a descendant chart would be to show direct descendants only. Chick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: >>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>> Archived messages: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >>> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> h
