Re: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-17 Thread Paula Ryburn

Thanks, Rich!!  This is SO lucid!  I am keeping this email for future reference!
--Paula


--- On Sun, 7/12/09, RICHARD SCHULTHIES  wrote:

> 
> From what you wrote, did you give a husband the name of
> Unknown. Using that, first print (or write on scrap paper)
> the family group sheet, Including RINs. Save/backup your
> file, then unlink (Mr.) 'Unknown' from wife, which should
> ask 'unlink from children?'. Once he is not connected to
> anyone, then delete him. For future reference, To add a
> child to only one parent, If parent has no spouse, adding
> the child on the main page is easy. But for parent with
> multiple (other) spouses, you need to start the child on the
> main screen in Male/Female position, and choose the Add
> Mother or Add Father box above. Then that way it only adds
> the one parent.
> You may be showing View 1/2 Kids?
> Rich in LA CA
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-17 Thread Paula Ryburn

Ron,  Awesome roadmap!  Another email to keep.
Thanks,
--Paula


--- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> 
> Vicky,
>  
> I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
> noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
>  
> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
> believes that every child is the product of two partners,
> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
> parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if
> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the bottom of
> the right hand column you will see the option to display the
> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the
> partner will always show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage
> List and on the Spouse Screen.
>  
> I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
>  
> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
> the family.
>  
> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they should move
> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
>  
> Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three
> Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To ensure that
> no residual marriage links remain go to View>Marriage
> List and if you do find Ann married to an "Unknown" then
> highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove marriage
> link.
>  
> Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which
> will create an unknown father. In the Family View for Ann
> click the Spouse Icon and select:  Add a new
> husband>Select from existing husband, (do *not* delete
> the "Unknown") and select John Smith. He may come with Grace
> attached, if so, also link her to Ann, otherwise attach Ann
> to her parents.
>  
> If you put "Brown" or "Smith" as the surname for each (your
> choice) in the AKAs you can select your preferred display
> name.
>  
> Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the
> kids should come with him, I'd checked first that they are
> linked to him and if not link them.
>  
> Hope that helps!
> 




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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-14 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

I didn't count them either. I have in the past, calmed down people who didn't 
know how those unknowns got in there, nor couldn't find the RIN for them. I was 
confident you knew, but have found that at times in the past I was flamed for 
not being exact enough, so I started being more specific. Now I am almost 
compulsive about it. ;-)

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 11:47 AM
> 
> Hmmm. My English was not sufficiently precise as you are
> correct in saying that a "person" with a RIN is *not*
> created, but in the Marriage List a partner designated
> "Unknown" is recorded. This non-existant "unknown" also
> shows in the Spouse Screen. The description of the mechanics
> of entering the data works as stated.
>  
> BTW I also have a very large number of single parents,
> can't be bothered to count them ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --------
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:01 -0700
> > From: fourpa...@verizon.net
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >
> >
> > I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The
> program if used correctly, will place 'unknown' as a place
> saver for the screen, but not add a person named 'Unknown'.
> The way is to put the child's name in either the
> husband/wife (or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add
> the single parent into the correct add parent box. This way
> it never asks about the 'spouse'. So, if the parent has any
> spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is part of the
> group. In the past I had many RINs asigned to people named
> 'Unknown', but cleaned it up in L5.
> > Rich in LA CA
> >
> > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
> >
> >> From: ronald ferguson 
> >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> >> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM
> >>
> >> Vicky,
> >>
> >> I replied to your questions yesterday but have
> only just
> >> noticed that it must have evaporated into the
> ether
> >> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
> >>
> >> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet
> Legacy
> >> believes that every child is the product of two
> partners,
> >> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube
> babies and
> >> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to
> only one
> >> parent it will then create a partner of the
> opposite sex
> >> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be
> avoided, but if
> >> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the
> bottom of
> >> the right hand column you will see the option to
> display the
> >> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note
> that the
> >> partner will always show as "Unknown" in
> View>Marriage
> >> List and on the Spouse Screen.
> >>
> >> I am going to take it that you mean David and
> Sally Brown
> >> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown
> father and
> >> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
> >>
> >> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids
> joined
> >> the family.
> >>
> >> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann
> Brown,
> >> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they
> should move
> >> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
> >>
> >> Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the
> three
> >> Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To
> ensure that
> >> no residual marriage links remain go to
> View>Marriage
> >> List and if you do find Ann married to an
> "Unknown" then
> >> highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove
> marriage
>

RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-14 Thread Vicky L Hannam
Ron and everyone
I just wanted to thank you all for your help. I am grateful for the
directions and hopefully will get it sorted
Regards
Vicky
Canada







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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-13 Thread ronald ferguson

Thanks, Carolyn, but I mentioned that option in my original reply.



Ron Ferguson

_

Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






> From: wood...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:10:39 -0700
>
> Just a note. The word "unknown" will not appear on screen if you have
> checked the box "(Just leave it blank)" in the section, Word for Blank
> Records, on the Data Format page of Options>Customize.
>
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of ronald ferguson
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:48 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
>
>
> Hmmm. My English was not sufficiently precise as you are correct in saying
> that a "person" with a RIN is *not* created, but in the Marriage List a
> partner designated "Unknown" is recorded. This non-existant "unknown" also
> shows in the Spouse Screen. The description of the mechanics of entering the
> data works as stated.
>
> BTW I also have a very large number of single parents, can't be bothered to
> count them ;-)
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _________________
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:01 -0700
>> From: fourpa...@verizon.net
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>> I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The program if used
> correctly, will place 'unknown' as a place saver for the screen, but not add
> a person named 'Unknown'. The way is to put the child's name in either the
> husband/wife (or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add the single parent
> into the correct add parent box. This way it never asks about the 'spouse'.
> So, if the parent has any spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is
> part of the group. In the past I had many RINs asigned to people named
> 'Unknown', but cleaned it up in L5.
>> Rich in LA CA
>>
>> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> From: ronald ferguson
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM
>>>
>>> Vicky,
>>>
>>> I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
>>> noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
>>> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
>>>
>>> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
>>> believes that every child is the product of two partners,
>>> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
>>> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
>>> parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
>>> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if
>>> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the bottom of
>>> the right hand column you will see the option to display the
>>> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the
>>> partner will always show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage
>>> List and on the Spouse Screen.
>>>
>>> I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
>>> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
>>> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
>>>
>>> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
>>> the family.
>>>
>>> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
>>> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they should move
>>> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
>>>
>>>

RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-13 Thread CE Wood
Just a note.  The word "unknown" will not appear on screen if you have
checked the box "(Just leave it blank)" in the section, Word for Blank
Records, on the Data Format page of Options>Customize.


Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:48 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family


Hmmm. My English was not sufficiently precise as you are correct in saying
that a "person" with a RIN is *not* created, but in the Marriage List a
partner designated "Unknown" is recorded. This non-existant "unknown" also
shows in the Spouse Screen. The description of the mechanics of entering the
data works as stated.
 
BTW I also have a very large number of single parents, can't be bothered to
count them ;-)



Ron Ferguson

_

Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:01 -0700
> From: fourpa...@verizon.net
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
> I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The program if used
correctly, will place 'unknown' as a place saver for the screen, but not add
a person named 'Unknown'. The way is to put the child's name in either the
husband/wife (or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add the single parent
into the correct add parent box. This way it never asks about the 'spouse'.
So, if the parent has any spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is
part of the group. In the past I had many RINs asigned to people named
'Unknown', but cleaned it up in L5.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>
>> From: ronald ferguson 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM
>>
>> Vicky,
>>
>> I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
>> noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
>> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
>>
>> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
>> believes that every child is the product of two partners,
>> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
>> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
>> parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
>> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if
>> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the bottom of
>> the right hand column you will see the option to display the
>> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the
>> partner will always show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage
>> List and on the Spouse Screen.
>>
>> I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
>> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
>> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
>>
>> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
>> the family.
>>
>> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
>> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they should move
>> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
>>
>> Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three
>> Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To ensure that
>> no residual marriage links remain go to View>Marriage
>> List and if you do find Ann married to an "Unknown" then
>> highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove marriage
>> link.
>>
>> Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which
>> will create an unknown father. In the Family View for Ann
>> click the Spouse Icon and select: Add a new
>> husband>Select from existing husband, (do *not* delete
>> the "Unknown") and select John Smith. He may come with Grace
>> attached, if so, also link her to Ann, otherwise attach Ann
>> to her parents.
>>
>> If you put "Brown" or "Smith" as the surname for each (your
>> choice) in the AKAs you can select your preferred display
>> name.
>>
>> Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the
>> kids should come w

RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-13 Thread ronald ferguson

Hmmm. My English was not sufficiently precise as you are correct in saying that 
a "person" with a RIN is *not* created, but in the Marriage List a partner 
designated "Unknown" is recorded. This non-existant "unknown" also shows in the 
Spouse Screen. The description of the mechanics of entering the data works as 
stated.
 
BTW I also have a very large number of single parents, can't be bothered to 
count them ;-)



Ron Ferguson

_

Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_






> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:15:01 -0700
> From: fourpa...@verizon.net
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
> I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The program if used correctly, 
> will place 'unknown' as a place saver for the screen, but not add a person 
> named 'Unknown'. The way is to put the child's name in either the 
> husband/wife (or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add the single parent 
> into the correct add parent box. This way it never asks about the 'spouse'. 
> So, if the parent has any spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is 
> part of the group. In the past I had many RINs asigned to people named 
> 'Unknown', but cleaned it up in L5.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>
>> From: ronald ferguson 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM
>>
>> Vicky,
>>
>> I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
>> noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
>> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
>>
>> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
>> believes that every child is the product of two partners,
>> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
>> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
>> parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
>> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if
>> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the bottom of
>> the right hand column you will see the option to display the
>> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the
>> partner will always show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage
>> List and on the Spouse Screen.
>>
>> I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
>> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
>> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
>>
>> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
>> the family.
>>
>> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
>> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they should move
>> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
>>
>> Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three
>> Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To ensure that
>> no residual marriage links remain go to View>Marriage
>> List and if you do find Ann married to an "Unknown" then
>> highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove marriage
>> link.
>>
>> Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which
>> will create an unknown father. In the Family View for Ann
>> click the Spouse Icon and select: Add a new
>> husband>Select from existing husband, (do *not* delete
>> the "Unknown") and select John Smith. He may come with Grace
>> attached, if so, also link her to Ann, otherwise attach Ann
>> to her parents.
>>
>> If you put "Brown" or "Smith" as the surname for each (your
>> choice) in the AKAs you can select your preferred display
>> name.
>>
>> Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the
>> kids should come with him, I'd checked first that they are
>> linked to him and if not link them.
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>> _
>>
>> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk

RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-13 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

I disagree. I have over 50 'single' parents. The program if used correctly, 
will place 'unknown' as a place saver for the screen, but not add a person 
named 'Unknown'. The way is to put the child's name in either the husband/wife 
(or AKA left/right-father/mother?), then add the single parent into the correct 
add parent box. This way it never asks about the 'spouse'. So, if the parent 
has any spouse, adding a child 'assumes' that spouse is part of the group. In 
the past I had many RINs asigned to people named 'Unknown', but cleaned it up 
in L5.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 7:57 AM
> 
> Vicky,
>  
> I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just
> noticed that it must have evaporated into the ether
> somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
>  
> Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy
> believes that every child is the product of two partners,
> one of each sex. It has yet to learn of test-tube babies and
> single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one
> parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex
> with the name of "Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if
> you go to Options>Data Format towards of the bottom of
> the right hand column you will see the option to display the
> name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the
> partner will always show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage
> List and on the Spouse Screen.
>  
> I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown
> are the children of Ann Brown with an unknown father and
> Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John Smith.
>  
> Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined
> the family.
>  
> I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown,
> unless you linked the kids as "Step-kids" they should move
> with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann as well.
>  
> Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three
> Kids, ie. you are now starting from scratch. To ensure that
> no residual marriage links remain go to View>Marriage
> List and if you do find Ann married to an "Unknown" then
> highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove marriage
> link.
>  
> Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which
> will create an unknown father. In the Family View for Ann
> click the Spouse Icon and select:  Add a new
> husband>Select from existing husband, (do *not* delete
> the "Unknown") and select John Smith. He may come with Grace
> attached, if so, also link her to Ann, otherwise attach Ann
> to her parents.
>  
> If you put "Brown" or "Smith" as the surname for each (your
> choice) in the AKAs you can select your preferred display
> name.
>  
> Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the
> kids should come with him, I'd checked first that they are
> linked to him and if not link them.
>  
> Hope that helps!
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: vhan...@sympatico.ca
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:14:25 -0400
> >
> > Good Morning
> > I am new to this list so apologize if this question
> has been asked before.
> > I am having a problem entering data on a very
> complicated family.
> >
> > Simplified,
> > Ann Brown had 3 base born children-father(s) unknown.
> > David Brown
> > Sally Brown
> > Grace Brown - The parish records for Grace's birth
> read "reported married to
> > one John Smith, a Scotsman" altho' they still
> registered her under the Brown
> > surname. (That makes John Smith her father,
> (probably).
> > Sure enough we found the Brown/Smith marriage so Grace
> is indeed a Smith
> > although she used Brown for most of her life.
> > The children began to use the Smith surname as they
> grew to adulthood as
> > they are found signing registers and witnessing
> marriages under 

RE: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-13 Thread ronald ferguson

Vicky,
 
I replied to your questions yesterday but have only just noticed that it must 
have evaporated into the ether somewhere, so I'll try and remember what I wrote!
 
Firstly regarding the question of unknowns. As yet Legacy believes that every 
child is the product of two partners, one of each sex. It has yet to learn of 
test-tube babies and single-sex partners, thus if a child is linked to only one 
parent it will then create a partner of the opposite sex with the name of 
"Unknown". This cannot be avoided, but if you go to Options>Data Format towards 
of the bottom of the right hand column you will see the option to display the 
name "Unknown" or otherwise. However please note that the partner will always 
show as "Unknown" in View>Marriage List and on the Spouse Screen.
 
I am going to take it that you mean David and Sally Brown are the children of 
Ann Brown with an unknown father and Grace Brown is the child of Ann and John 
Smith.
 
Ann later married David Jones and he and his kids joined the family.
 
I suggest that you unlink David Jones from Ann Brown, unless you linked the 
kids as "Step-kids" they should move with him, otherwise unlink them from Ann 
as well.
 
Now unlink John Smith from Ann and also unlink the three Kids, ie. you are now 
starting from scratch. To ensure that no residual marriage links remain go to 
View>Marriage List and if you do find Ann married to an "Unknown" then 
highlight the marriage and use Options>Remove marriage link.
 
Link David and Sally Brown to Ann as her children, which will create an unknown 
father. In the Family View for Ann click the Spouse Icon and select:  Add a new 
husband>Select from existing husband, (do *not* delete the "Unknown") and 
select John Smith. He may come with Grace attached, if so, also link her to 
Ann, otherwise attach Ann to her parents.
 
If you put "Brown" or "Smith" as the surname for each (your choice) in the AKAs 
you can select your preferred display name.
 
Now just link David Jones as another partner for Ann - the kids should come 
with him, I'd checked first that they are linked to him and if not link them.
 
Hope that helps!



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> From: vhan...@sympatico.ca
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:14:25 -0400
>
> Good Morning
> I am new to this list so apologize if this question has been asked before.
> I am having a problem entering data on a very complicated family.
>
> Simplified,
> Ann Brown had 3 base born children-father(s) unknown.
> David Brown
> Sally Brown
> Grace Brown - The parish records for Grace's birth read "reported married to
> one John Smith, a Scotsman" altho' they still registered her under the Brown
> surname. (That makes John Smith her father, (probably).
> Sure enough we found the Brown/Smith marriage so Grace is indeed a Smith
> although she used Brown for most of her life.
> The children began to use the Smith surname as they grew to adulthood as
> they are found signing registers and witnessing marriages under their
> fathers name.
>
> Ann Brown appears in the next census as Ann Smith. Husband Smith must have
> died as she then goes on to marry a David Jones who himself was previously
> married. Some of his kids come with him as evidenced by the next census.
>
> I have made a mess of the family in trying to enter it and would appreciate
> assistance.
> I do have the training video for this but my first problem is that I can't
> seem to enter her as the only parent for the base born children...sigh .once
> I enter her first husband the kids get tied to him.
>
> A related question is that I have entered "unknown" in some of my unmarried
> people when I know there are children. Later I discovered they did not
> marry. I would like to get rid of the spouse I have labeled "Unknown" but it
> will not let me do that.
>
> Many thanks for any help you can give.
> Vicky Hannam
> Canada
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family

2009-07-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

>From what you wrote, did you give a husband the name of Unknown. Using that, 
>first print (or write on scrap paper) the family group sheet, Including RINs. 
>Save/backup your file, then unlink (Mr.) 'Unknown' from wife, which should ask 
>'unlink from children?'. Once he is not connected to anyone, then delete him. 
>For future reference, To add a child to only one parent, If parent has no 
>spouse, adding the child on the main page is easy. But for parent with 
>multiple (other) spouses, you need to start the child on the main screen in 
>Male/Female position, and choose the Add Mother or Add Father box above. Then 
>that way it only adds the one parent.
You may be showing View 1/2 Kids?
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Vicky L Hannam  wrote:

> From: Vicky L Hannam 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: Complicated Family
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 6:14 AM
> Good Morning
> I am new to this list so apologize if this question has
> been asked before.
> I am having a problem entering data on a very complicated
> family.
> 
> Simplified,
> Ann Brown had 3 base born children-father(s) unknown.
> David Brown
> Sally Brown
> Grace Brown - The parish records for Grace's birth read
> "reported married to
> one John Smith, a Scotsman" altho' they still registered
> her under the Brown
> surname. (That makes John Smith her father, (probably).
> Sure enough we found the Brown/Smith marriage so Grace is
> indeed a Smith
> although she used Brown for most of her life.
> The children began to use the Smith surname as they grew to
> adulthood as
> they are found signing registers and witnessing marriages
> under their
> fathers name. 
> 
> Ann Brown appears in the next census as Ann Smith. Husband
> Smith must have
> died as she then goes on to marry a David Jones who himself
> was previously
> married. Some of his kids come with him as evidenced by the
> next census.
>  
> I have made a mess of the family in trying to enter it and
> would appreciate
> assistance.
> I do have the training video for this but my first problem
> is that I can't
> seem to enter her as the only parent for the base born
> children...sigh .once
> I enter her first husband the kids get tied to him.  
> 
> A related question is that I have entered "unknown" in some
> of my unmarried
> people when I know there are children. Later I discovered
> they did not
> marry. I would like to get rid of the spouse I have labeled
> "Unknown" but it
> will not let me do that. 
> 
> Many thanks for any help you can give.
> Vicky Hannam
> Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
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