RE: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
Or you could just google pdf to jpg and come up with over 250,000 hits. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:39 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event Connie, Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the page where you want the PDF to be available. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you know why? Thanks, Syble --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com wrote: From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM Click on the picture frame and select file. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event? I've found a source for some death certificates, but the only option to save them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks, Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?
Paul, My apologies, only the Subject registered with me and not the path in the content. You are correct, of course, and the answer is, therefore, No. Sorry. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Follow me on twitter http://twitter.com/ronfergy - Original Message - From: Paul Lynch To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 20 April 2010 02:28 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report? For the Descendant Chart (not in the charting application but in the main Legacy program from the Reports menu), in the Report Options dialog box the Child Status checkbox is disabled (along with most of the others). Am I missing something? On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Paul, I don't think so. However, if you add Male, Female, Unknown to the Child Status list, this will appear after the details of the person as eg. (Male), and in Report Options set it to show Child Status. This is, perhaps, not ideal as I imagine most of the individuals will be the start of a line or an island, in which case you will have to give the individual unknowm parents (if you don't want them to show after setting the status delete the parents, and in OptionsCustomiseData Format set it to leave Unknowns as Blank). Unfortunately there is still a bug which means that the Unknown will show in ceratin parts of the report. You could also set the relationship to Parents as Son, Daughter, Unknown Sex, but I don't think this looks as good. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: Paul Lynch To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 19 April 2010 00:55 Subject: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report? On the descendant report in Legacy (Reports-Reports Menu-Descendant Chart) is there a way to make it show the gender of the people in the report? (There are some descendants for which the gender is all that I know, or for which the gender is not apparent from the name.) Thanks, --Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Hi Brian, We are probably debating semantics here! But whilst Windows decides that Upper and Lower Cases are the same I don't. We can see the problems which this causes with names like MacDonald and Macdonald, and I would expect that when one checks Do not change what I enter it actually does what it has been told to do. Not desparately important though, just a niggle. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Brian/Support wrote: Ron, That is not a bug Ron. The whole concept of a master list is that there is only one copy of a surname. If you want two versions of a surname you have to have both entered in the master list in order for Legacy to be able to choose them. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2010 8:09 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Hmmm, That seems like a bug to me. I will check it tomorrow (it's 1-00am here) Ron Ferguson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search for additions/alterations since say 1 Apr 2010 to Legacy 7.4
All, Your advice on how to Search for additions/alterations to my family tree since say 1 Apr 2010 in Legacy 7.4. Kind Regards Doug Tighe __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5042 (20100419) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Laura, You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you? Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
Sybil, If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL, http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the HTML coding and positioning. Ron Ferguson Brian/Support wrote: Connie, Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the page where you want the PDF to be available. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you know why? Thanks, Syble --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com wrote: From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM Click on the picture frame and select file. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event? I've found a source for some death certificates, but the only option to save them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks, Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation
blr...@optonline.net wrote: I am looking for basic info on the web page creation feature.When I create a web page using Legacy and save it,do I then download to an online server or creation site.Don't know if I am explaining this right,does the Legacy web page creation feature automatically place your data on a web page or do I need something else to put it on the web?Thank you for the replies.Brian Lehman Brian, There is a set of Tutorials on my website on using Legcy to create a website. Please visit the Tutorial section on it (URL below) Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
no, it is not a bold typeface. It is just Arial Ron Ferguson wrote: Laura, You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you? Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Laura, Even if you have already done try doing it again, as sometimes the settings are lost on updating. In any event they should be changed whenever a new direct line ancestor is added. Go to ToolsSet Relationships and ToolsSet Direct Line as preferred. Check also that in OptionsCustomiseData Format the boxes for setting Preferred children and Direct-line children are still checked. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: no, it is not a bold typeface. It is just Arial Ron Ferguson wrote: Laura, You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you? Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] No help in Vista
I have been following your maillist for some time now without seeing anything about this subject. None of the Help buttons works in Legacy 7.4.0.30 with my Windows Vista. First time I tried them I got an error message from Vista saying I had to install an extra help module since the help format Legacy uses is no longer supported. I installed it - as administrator, but since then nothing happens when I click on a help button!?! Help, please :-) Stein Arne Jensen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?
That option is not available for a Descendant Chart. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation supp...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. Original Message- From: Paul Lynch [mailto:eph1v...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:28 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report? For the Descendant Chart (not in the charting application but in the main Legacy program from the Reports menu), in the Report Options dialog box the Child Status checkbox is disabled (along with most of the others). Am I missing something? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
I wrote: I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it used to, but maybe not. Which of course it does, if I make sure Indicate Preferred Child (*) in Child List is checked on the Data Format options screen! Not enough coffee yet this morning... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista
Before I uninstall - is there a path I can check to see if the help file actually exists? Stein Arne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca _ Videos that have everyone talking! Now also in HD! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724465 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista
Stein Ann, Look for Legacy.chm in your Legacy folder. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: Stein Arne Jensen To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 20 April 2010 17:18 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista Before I uninstall - is there a path I can check to see if the help file actually exists? Stein Arne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Rob, The Newspaper is still the source, the Library is the repository. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: Rob Miller To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 20 April 2010 17:46 Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Videos that have everyone talking! Now also in HD! MSN.ca Video. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista
Stein Ann, Yup! and no, it's a property of gmail, I believe. BTW please try and send in Plain Text as required by Legacy! _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England - Original Message - From: Stein Arne Jensen To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 20 April 2010 18:05 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista No Legacy.chm! ...and the only way to get it is to reinstall? By the way - I hope you don't get every message from me in two copies as I do myself (I'm using gmail). Stein Arne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Rob: Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper), it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would have different ways to access it. That said, I do list the place where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation just in case I need to go back for some reason. So you needn't worry over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about where you found the item. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
Yes, I can do it one page at a time, I have Expression Web2, just didn't want to go that way, disappointing that Legacy doesn't have that capability. I'm in the process of going through all my files one by one, because I added another family members to mine, I've found numerous mistakes, I try to write down the number and then only reload those files, but once I'm finished, I will reload this entire file to my website and in doing that, it would over write all the ones I'd manually added the pdf files to. By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in Photoshop Elements, but it would not import the pdf file? Thanks, Syble --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:56 AM Sybil, If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL, http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the HTML coding and positioning. Ron Ferguson Brian/Support wrote: Connie, Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the page where you want the PDF to be available. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you know why? Thanks, Syble --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com wrote: From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM Click on the picture frame and select file. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event? I've found a source for some death certificates, but the only option to save them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks, Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-ways-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-a-jpg-image/ this site gives six free ways to do it. Dee From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:44 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event Yes, I can do it one page at a time, I have Expression Web2, just didn't want to go that way, disappointing that Legacy doesn't have that capability. I'm in the process of going through all my files one by one, because I added another family members to mine, I've found numerous mistakes, I try to write down the number and then only reload those files, but once I'm finished, I will reload this entire file to my website and in doing that, it would over write all the ones I'd manually added the pdf files to. By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in Photoshop Elements, but it would not import the pdf file? Thanks, Syble --- On Tue, 4/20/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:56 AM Sybil, If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL, http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the HTML coding and positioning. Ron Ferguson Brian/Support wrote: Connie, Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the page where you want the PDF to be available. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote: Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you know why? Thanks, Syble --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote: From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ceddaco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=legacyusergr...@legacyusers.com Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM Click on the picture frame and select file. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=syble_...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event? I've found a source for some death certificates, but the only option to save them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks, Syble Glasscock Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
A repository is the place where the source reposes. If the microfilm is the source, where does it repose? The library. If the source is the newspaper article/clipping/notice, where does it repose? If you are lucky enough to have a photo, pdf, etc., of the article, where does that copy repose? For me, when I have hard or computer file copies of such, my source might be newspaper clipping' or the actual newspaper (if I have many from that particular newspaper). The repository for copies in my possession is CE's library. I put the file name that I gave it into the details. If I found it on a website, I put the url goes into the details also. As you mention, places go out of business, including websites, so whenever I can, I get a copy of some sort. Bottom line - it's your choice; just be consistent. CE From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newspaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
Syble Glasscock wrote By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in Photoshop Elements, but it would not import the pdf file? I have Photoshop Elements and I can open a PDF file with it. The crucial word there is OPEN, not IMPORT. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Rob Miller wrote If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? The definition of Repository is a place where things are stored for safe-keeping. If you are accessing your data from an actual newspaper, the Repository would be where that newspaper is stored or kept. If you have viewed images of the newspaper on film, the Repository is where the film is stored or kept. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Citing city directories
I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. I've looked through the archives and gleaned some information, but still need some advice. Like a lot of you, I rely heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations should look. Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist for help. I think it important that sources be cited accurately and completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again, but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and professional standards. The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources that are digitized and made available online. The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as people are likely familar, are published across multiple years, sometimes with different titles and publishers. I'm currently working with the Rochester, NY city directories. Here is my dilemmas and question: I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record people's residences and occupations. I'd like to avoid having 75 master sources (one for each year). Instead, having a generic citation for the years in which the same publisher published the directory is my intent. For Rochester, the directory was published by C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis Co. from 1872-43, and then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918. During these years, the directory's title remained the same. I can accomplish that by simply putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping such as 1869-1918. However, when I get to the detail source I seem to be stuck. I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory (volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page 206, etc. in a single citation. I *could* have multiple detail citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than having multiple masters? Thoughts? How have you handled this? What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each should have their own reference. I am not aware of an easy way to split master sources other than finding the detailed information and changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do. Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the master source? For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it italicized, can I do that somehow? Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped? I currently have 82 master sources for federal censuses (one for each county each year), which is necessary to have the proper citation. After typing HertiageQuest Online in for the 40th time, I was sure wishing I could simply copy the master source ... yes, copy and paste will work, but only for a single line. I used it to avoid typing http://www.hertiagequestonline.com; 82 times. Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Ron: That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published materials, but it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even thought up by Mills). I don't defend it and in fact, as in my response, I do make a note for my own use about where something was found. It's just not a proper element of a source citation. The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of published books where the name of my local library would be of little use to someone else. With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them at the Ontario Archives and I may find them at World Vital Records. The important part of the citation is that they came originally from the Toronto Star. Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that the repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to be stewed over. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? Kirsten, With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the place at which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows where to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories there are. By your definition there would be no repositories for just about everything. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Rob: Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper), it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would have different ways to access it. That said, I do list the place where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation just in case I need to go back for some reason. So you needn't worry over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about where you found the item. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Kirsten, Thank you for the clarification, even if I do feel that the convention is rubbish! I don't agree that the name of your local library would be of little use to anyone else. Within my published records there is one of a great uncle who was murdered. Much of my information was taken from a book which contained extracts from the local press at the time of the trial, together with other information. To the best of my knowledge the only copy of this book exists on a local authority archive, although, come to think of it, there should be a copy in the British Library. In any event the source of the local authority, and it could easly have been the local library, would be of interest to a researcher. For accuracy's sake I would add that the convention is an American convention and not a British one. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Ron: That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published materials, but it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even thought up by Mills). I don't defend it and in fact, as in my response, I do make a note for my own use about where something was found. It's just not a proper element of a source citation. The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of published books where the name of my local library would be of little use to someone else. With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them at the Ontario Archives and I may find them at World Vital Records. The important part of the citation is that they came originally from the Toronto Star. Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that the repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to be stewed over. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? Kirsten, With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the place at which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows where to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories there are. By your definition there would be no repositories for just about everything. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Rob: Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper), it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would have different ways to access it. That said, I do list the place where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation just in case I need to go back for some reason. So you needn't worry over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about where you found the item. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories
Scott Hall wrote I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. Are you using SourceWriter or Basic? -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories
Scott, I was just struggling with this over the last couple of days. I ended up having a single master for the city, and just put 'various publishers' in the Publisher field. Your way is better, but in my case the publisher seemed to change almost yearly and it didn't seem to be a very important piece of information. Then I cited a detail source for each year, typing in the year and the page number, and typing the directory entry/entries for that person in the detail text (not to appear in the citation). So in your example, person B would have 3 detail citations, not one. If I'm sourcing a page that indicates that the person's brother was rooming at his residence, then more typing of text but a single citation. For your second question, the control codes work when you highlight the text (cntl i, cntl b, cntl u), but there is a trick for turning off the default italics. Try typing «i»«/i»subtitle after the main title. This seems to turn off the automatic italics for the subtitle. For the last question, when I copy a full source citation (master and detail) to the source clipboard, I get a prompt asking if I want to copy the detail. One option is to say yes, then when you paste it, remember to go in and change only the necessary parts of the detail. (You need to enable the option to prompt you for details when you paste from the clipboard.) Ward - Original Message - From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. I've looked through the archives and gleaned some information, but still need some advice. Like a lot of you, I rely heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations should look. Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist for help. I think it important that sources be cited accurately and completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again, but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and professional standards. The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources that are digitized and made available online. The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as people are likely familar, are published across multiple years, sometimes with different titles and publishers. I'm currently working with the Rochester, NY city directories. Here is my dilemmas and question: I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record people's residences and occupations. I'd like to avoid having 75 master sources (one for each year). Instead, having a generic citation for the years in which the same publisher published the directory is my intent. For Rochester, the directory was published by C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis Co. from 1872-43, and then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918. During these years, the directory's title remained the same. I can accomplish that by simply putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping such as 1869-1918. However, when I get to the detail source I seem to be stuck. I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory (volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page 206, etc. in a single citation. I *could* have multiple detail citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than having multiple masters? Thoughts? How have you handled this? What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each should have their own reference. I am not aware of an easy way to split master sources other than finding the detailed information and changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do. Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the master source? For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it italicized, can I do that somehow? Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped? I currently have 82 master sources for federal censuses (one for each county each year), which is necessary to have the proper citation. After typing HertiageQuest Online in for the 40th time, I was sure wishing I could simply copy the master source ... yes, copy and paste will work, but only for a single line. I used it to avoid typing http://www.hertiagequestonline.com; 82 times. Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Hi Laura, 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name I had forgotten, until you mentioned it, that the bold didn't show on my computer for a long time. I never knew why. I can't remember now what triggered its appearance, but it was either switching to a new computer or a Legacy upgrade/update. I use the Arial font, and the bold is very obvious to me, in the children listed in Family View, and in the Names List. For the asterisk, do you have checked the box that says Indicate Preferred children in Child List (*)? Options Customize Data Format. I wouldn't have thought from the wording that would affect it showing in Family View, but perhaps it's worth investigating. If you've got everything set as it should be, and it's not doing what it's supposed to, you should probably contact Support for assistance. In case anyone is wondering what the bold lettering and/or the asterisk should look like in Family View, I've taken a screen shot and uploaded it to my Facebook account so I can share it here. Go to http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3993889l=1237962d09id=644567880 You do not need a Facebook account, or be logged in, to view that picture. Child #7, Susan Mary Craske WATSON has the asterisk and is in bold. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
Kirsten Bowman wrote: It's just not a proper element of a source citation. Kristen, it ISN'T part of the source citation! In Reports, you have to check the box to include it. In Family View, Sources, you have to click on the Repository tab to see it. What you enter as the repository is where your source, reposes. It is not the source, and is NOT part of the source citation. It is additional information that you can add TO the source citation. It enables you or someone else to know where the source can be found. CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
The asterisk does show when you select the Children's setting BUT ..I DONT want to have to do that in order to see which child is the preferred child which in my case is my direct ancestor. Times New Roman - I can't see the difference in bold there either. I thought that maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that I only use legacy in the upper half of my screen and am typing from the excel files in the bottom half but I just tried Legacy full screen and it is the same way - still cannot distinguish the BOLD or the asterisk after the child's name. I am running Legacy with the latest update. So, I decided to see if it was just this computer or if I could replicate it on my laptop. Both Legacy programs have exactly the same settings. The only difference is that the laptop is Vista Professional 64-bit. The computer is XP Essential for Business. Both screens look exactly alike and I cannot see the bold or asterisk. So I did another experiment. I unchecked to show the asterisk. Closed Legacy then reopened it. The asterisk now appears. So I thought maybe if that worked, I would try fixing the bold - I unchecked show direct ancestor in bold, closed Legacy and restarted - but that didn't make it appear any bolder than the other children. Connie Sheets wrote: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Laura, You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you? Ron Ferguson My font is set to Times New Roman, regular, and while the direct line does show in bold, it is difficult for my aging eyes to discern the subtle difference. I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it used to, but maybe not. Should I forget which child is mine, I right click on the children's area of the screen, select Children's Settings and then can navigate from the Children's List, which does show the asterisk. Connie _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov.
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories
Whoa, that didn't translate very well. Where did those A's with hats come from? The idea is to add the codes to turn italics on and off again with no text string between. I.e., an 'i' enclosed in left and right double angle brackets, then a '/i' also enclosed in double angle brackets. Or just type some text, highlight it, press cntl i, then delete the temporary text. - Original Message - From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories Scott, I was just struggling with this over the last couple of days. I ended up having a single master for the city, and just put 'various publishers' in the Publisher field. Your way is better, but in my case the publisher seemed to change almost yearly and it didn't seem to be a very important piece of information. Then I cited a detail source for each year, typing in the year and the page number, and typing the directory entry/entries for that person in the detail text (not to appear in the citation). So in your example, person B would have 3 detail citations, not one. If I'm sourcing a page that indicates that the person's brother was rooming at his residence, then more typing of text but a single citation. For your second question, the control codes work when you highlight the text (cntl i, cntl b, cntl u), but there is a trick for turning off the default italics. Try typing «i»«/i»subtitle after the main title. This seems to turn off the automatic italics for the subtitle. For the last question, when I copy a full source citation (master and detail) to the source clipboard, I get a prompt asking if I want to copy the detail. One option is to say yes, then when you paste it, remember to go in and change only the necessary parts of the detail. (You need to enable the option to prompt you for details when you paste from the clipboard.) Ward - Original Message - From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. I've looked through the archives and gleaned some information, but still need some advice. Like a lot of you, I rely heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations should look. Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist for help. I think it important that sources be cited accurately and completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again, but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and professional standards. The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources that are digitized and made available online. The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as people are likely familar, are published across multiple years, sometimes with different titles and publishers. I'm currently working with the Rochester, NY city directories. Here is my dilemmas and question: I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record people's residences and occupations. I'd like to avoid having 75 master sources (one for each year). Instead, having a generic citation for the years in which the same publisher published the directory is my intent. For Rochester, the directory was published by C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis Co. from 1872-43, and then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918. During these years, the directory's title remained the same. I can accomplish that by simply putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping such as 1869-1918. However, when I get to the detail source I seem to be stuck. I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory (volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page 206, etc. in a single citation. I *could* have multiple detail citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than having multiple masters? Thoughts? How have you handled this? What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each should have their own reference. I am not aware of an easy way to split master sources other than finding the detailed information and changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do. Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the master source? For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it italicized, can I do that somehow? Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped? I currently have 82 master sources for federal
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
If I may interject a thought into this thread. I tend to agree that my local library is of little use to someone else in another state wishing to locate one of my sources. Whenever possible I use WorldCat as my repository located at http://www.oclc.org/worldcat . This way others can locate the relevant book or source and have it loaned to their library. This suggestion was actually provided by Elizabeth Shown Mills in one her books on citing sources, in particular books. Hope this helps a little. Charles -Original Message- From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? Ron: That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published materials, but it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even thought up by Mills). I don't defend it and in fact, as in my response, I do make a note for my own use about where something was found. It's just not a proper element of a source citation. The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of published books where the name of my local library would be of little use to someone else. With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them at the Ontario Archives and I may find them at World Vital Records. The important part of the citation is that they came originally from the Toronto Star. Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that the repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to be stewed over. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? Kirsten, With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the place at which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows where to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories there are. By your definition there would be no repositories for just about everything. Ron Ferguson _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Kirsten Bowman wrote: Rob: Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper), it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would have different ways to access it. That said, I do list the place where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation just in case I need to go back for some reason. So you needn't worry over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about where you found the item. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm collection? If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business? Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to clean up my earlier choices. Rob Rob Miller Toronto, ON robsfamilyt...@live.ca Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
Hi Laura, Have you tried going to CustomizeColors, in the colors screen about half way down on the right side you will see three buttons labeled Male, Female and Unknown, have you tried changing the colors until you find a color that will show up clearer when the bold type is used. I'm using a light shade of dark blue for Male, a light shade of red for Female and a light shade of green for Unknown. The bold type is quite a bit darker. This works for me. Leo From: rngad...@madisontelco.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:09:27 -0500 The asterisk does show when you select the Children's setting BUT ..I DONT want to have to do that in order to see which child is the preferred child which in my case is my direct ancestor. Times New Roman - I can't see the difference in bold there either. I thought that maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that I only use legacy in the upper half of my screen and am typing from the excel files in the bottom half but I just tried Legacy full screen and it is the same way - still cannot distinguish the BOLD or the asterisk after the child's name. I am running Legacy with the latest update. So, I decided to see if it was just this computer or if I could replicate it on my laptop. Both Legacy programs have exactly the same settings. The only difference is that the laptop is Vista Professional 64-bit. The computer is XP Essential for Business. Both screens look exactly alike and I cannot see the bold or asterisk. So I did another experiment. I unchecked to show the asterisk. Closed Legacy then reopened it. The asterisk now appears. So I thought maybe if that worked, I would try fixing the bold - I unchecked show direct ancestor in bold, closed Legacy and restarted - but that didn't make it appear any bolder than the other children. Connie Sheets wrote: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Laura, You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you? Ron Ferguson My font is set to Times New Roman, regular, and while the direct line does show in bold, it is difficult for my aging eyes to discern the subtle difference. I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it used to, but maybe not. Should I forget which child is mine, I right click on the children's area of the screen, select Children's Settings and then can navigate from the Children's List, which does show the asterisk. Connie _ Completely rewritten and revised: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Laura Johnson wrote: Wendy 1. I already have the relationships set to appear with me as the starting point 2. I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see any difference 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child - can't see any asterisk next to the name So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see the asterisk So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to make it stand out Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Laura, is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on others, just regular? In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS. All others with the same surname were typed regularly. You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate, unattached names. That may not be what you want. Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct line? You don't have to rely on capital letters here. You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering. Options Customize Data Format Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold) You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family View. Tools Set Relationships You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family. It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a child in Family View and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to Preferred Child. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?
CE: Exactly. And if your source reposes in some unique place then it's appropriate to include that information with the citation. But if your source is _The Dictionary of Canadian Biography_, then the publisher's information is sufficient and the repository would be redundant, although it can be noted for your own reference. I don't think there's any real disagreement in what we're saying. Kirsten -Original Message- From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository? Kirsten Bowman wrote: It's just not a proper element of a source citation. Kristen, it ISN'T part of the source citation! In Reports, you have to check the box to include it. In Family View, Sources, you have to click on the Repository tab to see it. What you enter as the repository is where your source, reposes. It is not the source, and is NOT part of the source citation. It is additional information that you can add TO the source citation. It enables you or someone else to know where the source can be found. CE Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista
Stein Arne, The Vista message you are getting indicates that you are running an old Version of Legacy. The Legacy Help files for Vista have been included in all the versions since one of the updates to Legacy 6 which was issued after Vista was issued. Please Visit our Home page www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Click on the Help Center menu item and select Technical Support. You will see a link to Windows 7 and Vista compatibility. That includes information on using older versions of Legacy with Vista. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 20/04/2010 9:55 AM, Stein Arne Jensen wrote: I tried it again. This time the windows reopend its help window with the following explanation Why can't I get Help from this program? Why can't I get Help from this program? The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends on a feature that is not included in Windows Vista. However, you can download a program that will allow you view Help created in the Windows Help format from the Microsofthttp://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=82148website. For more information, go to the Windows Help program (WinHlp32.exe)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=59782article on the Microsoft support website. I followed the described procedure to the end and reinstalled this exe file (a windows update). When the installation finished I returned to the still open Legacy to close it and restart. I now got a message that Windows help could not find the the Legacy helpfile and that I might have to reinstall it. Since I was about to quit the program I just clicked on cancel. When I restarted Legacy again, the help buttons still don't work, but now I get no error message!?! So far I've tried the help button in the window where I edit the information for a person and then the central place register. No reaction. Maybe this is something the Legacy developers should fix, since people will have the same problem with Windows 7 in the future. Maybe they'll have to rewrite the help system. Stein Arne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp