RE: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

2010-04-20 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Or you could just google pdf to jpg and come up with over 250,000 hits.

Brian in CA


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:39 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

 Connie,

 Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up
 document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of
 the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the
 page where you want the PDF to be available.

 Brian
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 Thanks.

 On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
  Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't
 pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you know
 why?
  Thanks, Syble
 
  --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
  From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM
 
 
  Click on the picture frame and select file.
 
  On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event?  I've found a
 source for some death certificates, but the only option to save them to
 my computer is a pdf format.
  Thanks,
  Syble Glasscock




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Laura Johnson
Wendy

1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
starting point
2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see
any difference
3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child -
can't see any asterisk next to the name

So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child is
the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I see
the asterisk

So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears to
make it stand out

Wendy Howard wrote:
 Hi Laura,


 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
 others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.  All
 others with the same surname were typed regularly.


 You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can have
 Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be separate,
 unattached names.  That may not be what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct
 line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options 
 Customize  Data Format  Indicate direct-line children in lists (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family
 View.  Tools  Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family.  It's
 automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is quickly
 changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View and select
 Children's Settings; select the child you want and click on Set to
 Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard




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Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Paul,

My apologies, only the Subject registered with me and not the path in the 
content.

You are correct, of course, and the answer is, therefore, No. Sorry.

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  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Lynch
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: 20 April 2010 02:28
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?


  For the Descendant Chart (not in the charting application but in the main 
Legacy program from the Reports menu), in the Report Options dialog box the 
Child Status checkbox is disabled (along with most of the others).  Am I 
missing something?


  On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

Paul,

I don't think so. However, if you add Male, Female, Unknown to the Child
Status list, this will appear after the details of the person as eg.
(Male), and in Report Options set it to show Child Status. This is,
perhaps, not ideal as I imagine most of the individuals will be the start of
a line or an island, in which case you will have to give the individual
unknowm parents (if you don't want them to show after setting the status
delete the parents, and in OptionsCustomiseData Format set it to leave
Unknowns as Blank). Unfortunately there is still a bug which means that
the Unknown will show in ceratin parts of the report.

You could also set the relationship to Parents as Son, Daughter,
Unknown Sex, but I don't think this looks as good.


Ron Ferguson
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And the Fergusons of N.W. England



- Original Message -
From: Paul Lynch
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 19 April 2010 00:55
Subject: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?


On the descendant report in Legacy (Reports-Reports Menu-Descendant Chart)
is there a way to make it show the gender of the people in the report?
(There are some descendants for which the gender is all that I know, or for
which the gender is not apparent from the name.)  Thanks,


  --Paul




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Hi Brian,

We are probably debating semantics here! But whilst Windows decides that
Upper and Lower Cases are the same I don't. We can see the problems which
this causes with names like MacDonald and Macdonald, and I would expect that
when one checks Do not change what I enter it actually does what it has
been told to do.

Not desparately important though, just a niggle.

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Brian/Support wrote:
 Ron,

 That is not a bug Ron. The whole concept of a master list is that
 there is only one copy of a surname. If you want two versions of a
 surname you have to have both entered in the master list in order for
 Legacy to be able to choose them.

 Brian
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 On 19/04/2010 8:09 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Hmmm,

 That seems like a bug to me. I will check it tomorrow (it's 1-00am
 here)

 Ron Ferguson




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[LegacyUG] Search for additions/alterations since say 1 Apr 2010 to Legacy 7.4

2010-04-20 Thread Doug

All,

Your advice on how to Search for additions/alterations to my family tree
since say 1 Apr 2010 in Legacy 7.4.

Kind Regards
Doug Tighe


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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Laura,

You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you?

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Laura Johnson wrote:
 Wendy

 1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
 starting point
 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to
 see any difference
 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child
 - can't see any asterisk next to the name

 So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child
 is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I
 see the asterisk

 So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears
 to make it stand out

 Wendy Howard wrote:
 Hi Laura,


 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
 others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.
 All others with the same surname were typed regularly.


 You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can
 have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be
 separate, unattached names.  That may not be what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct
 line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options 
 Customize  Data Format  Indicate direct-line children in lists
 (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family
 View.  Tools  Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family.
 It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is
 quickly changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View
 and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click
 on Set to Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard





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Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Sybil,

If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL,
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the
HTML coding and positioning.

Ron Ferguson


Brian/Support wrote:
 Connie,

 Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up
 document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of
 the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the
 page where you want the PDF to be available.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous
 correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
 Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't
 pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you
 know why? Thanks, Syble

 --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com  wrote:


 From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM


 Click on the picture frame and select file.

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble
 Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event?  I've found a
 source for some death certificates, but the only option to save
 them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks,
 Syble Glasscock






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Re: [LegacyUG] Web page creation

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
blr...@optonline.net wrote:
 I am looking for basic info on the web page creation feature.When I
 create a web page using Legacy and save it,do I then download to an
 online server or creation site.Don't know if I am explaining this
 right,does the Legacy web page creation feature automatically place
 your data on a web page or do I need something else to put it on the
 web?Thank you for the replies.Brian Lehman


Brian,

There is a set of Tutorials on my website on using Legcy to create a
website. Please visit the Tutorial section on it (URL below)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Laura Johnson
no, it is not a bold typeface.  It is just Arial

Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Laura,

 You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold, have you?

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Laura Johnson wrote:

 Wendy

 1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
 starting point
 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to
 see any difference
 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child
 - can't see any asterisk next to the name

 So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which child
 is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold nor do I
 see the asterisk

 So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that appears
 to make it stand out

 Wendy Howard wrote:

 Hi Laura,



 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
 others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.
 All others with the same surname were typed regularly.


 You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can
 have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be
 separate, unattached names.  That may not be what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your direct
 line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options 
 Customize  Data Format  Indicate direct-line children in lists
 (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the central couple in Family
 View.  Tools  Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family.
 It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is
 quickly changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View
 and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click
 on Set to Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard






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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Laura,

Even if you have already done try doing it again, as sometimes the settings
are lost on updating. In any event they should be changed whenever a new
direct line ancestor is added.

Go to ToolsSet Relationships and ToolsSet Direct Line as preferred. Check
also that in OptionsCustomiseData Format the boxes for setting Preferred
children and Direct-line children are still checked.

Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
 

Laura Johnson wrote:
 no, it is not a bold typeface.  It is just Arial

 Ron Ferguson wrote:
 Laura,

 You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial Bold,
 have you?

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Laura Johnson wrote:

 Wendy

 1.  I already have the relationships set to appear  with me as the
 starting point
 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to
 see any difference
 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred
 child - can't see any asterisk next to the name

 So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT tell which
 child is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as bold
 nor do I see the asterisk

 So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only thing that
 appears to make it stand out

 Wendy Howard wrote:

 Hi Laura,



 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances of a surname and on
 others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my direct line in ALL CAPS.
 All others with the same surname were typed regularly.


 You've already had responses that have told you that yes, you can
 have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list, but they will be
 separate, unattached names.  That may not be what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for highlighting your
 direct line?  You don't have to rely on capital letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold lettering.  Options 
 Customize  Data Format  Indicate direct-line children in lists
 (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the central couple in
 Family View.  Tools  Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred child in any family.
 It's automatically applied to the first child entered, but it is
 quickly changed if desired.  Right-click on a child in Family View
 and select Children's Settings; select the child you want and click
 on Set to Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard







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[LegacyUG] No help in Vista

2010-04-20 Thread Stein Arne Jensen
I have been following your maillist for some time now without seeing
anything about this subject.

None of the Help buttons works in Legacy 7.4.0.30 with my Windows Vista.
First time I tried them I got an error message from Vista saying I had to
install an extra help module since the help format Legacy uses is no longer
supported.

I installed it - as administrator, but since then nothing happens when I
click on a help button!?!

Help, please :-)

Stein Arne Jensen



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RE: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?

2010-04-20 Thread Sherry/Support
That option is not available for a Descendant Chart.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Original Message-

From: Paul Lynch [mailto:eph1v...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Showing Gender on Descendant Report?

For the Descendant Chart (not in the charting application but in the main 
Legacy program from the Reports menu), in the Report Options dialog box the 
Child Status checkbox is disabled (along with most of the others).  Am I 
missing something?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Connie Sheets
I wrote:

 I'm surprised
 the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it used to, but
 maybe not.

Which of course it does, if I make sure Indicate Preferred Child (*) in Child 
List is checked on the Data Format options screen!

Not enough coffee yet this morning...









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Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista

2010-04-20 Thread Stein Arne Jensen
Before I uninstall - is there a path I can check to see if the help file
actually exists?

Stein Arne



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[LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Rob Miller

If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the 
newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm 
collection?



If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?



Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to 
clean up my earlier choices.



Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Stein Ann,

Look for Legacy.chm in your Legacy folder.

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And the Fergusons of N.W. England


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Before I uninstall - is there a path I can check to see if the help file
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Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Rob,

The Newspaper is still the source, the Library is the repository.

Ron Ferguson
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Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository
the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm
collection?

If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to
clean up my earlier choices.

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Stein Ann,

Yup! and no, it's a property of gmail, I believe. BTW please try and send in
Plain Text as required by Legacy!
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista


No Legacy.chm!
...and the only way to get it is to reinstall?

By the way - I hope you don't get every message from me in two copies as I
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RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Rob:

Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper), it's not 
proper to cite a repository since different people would have different ways to 
access it.  That said, I do list the place where *I* found it as a separate 
note outside of the source citation just in case I need to go back for some 
reason.  So you needn't worry over which is the repository, just make a note to 
yourself about where you found the item.

Kirsten

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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the 
newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm 
collection?

If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to 
clean up my earlier choices.

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

2010-04-20 Thread Syble Glasscock
Yes, I can do it one page at a time, I have Expression Web2, just didn't want 
to go that way, disappointing that Legacy doesn't have that capability.   I'm 
in the process of going through all my files one by one, because I added 
another family members to mine, I've found numerous mistakes, I try to write 
down the number and then only reload those files, but once I'm finished, I will 
reload this entire file to my website and in doing that, it would over write 
all the ones I'd manually added the pdf files to.
By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in Photoshop 
Elements, but it would not import the pdf file?
Thanks,
Syble

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:56 AM


Sybil,

If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL,
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the
HTML coding and positioning.

Ron Ferguson


Brian/Support wrote:
 Connie,

 Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up
 document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of
 the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the
 page where you want the PDF to be available.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous
 correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
 Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't
 pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you
 know why? Thanks, Syble

 --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com  wrote:


 From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM


 Click on the picture frame and select file.

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble
 Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event?  I've found a
 source for some death certificates, but the only option to save
 them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks,
 Syble Glasscock






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RE: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

2010-04-20 Thread Dee Whiting
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-ways-to-convert-a-pdf-file-to-a-jpg-image/ this 
site gives six free ways to do it.

Dee



From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event




Yes, I can do it one page at a time, I have Expression Web2, just didn't want 
to go that way, disappointing that Legacy doesn't have that capability.   I'm 
in the process of going through all my files one by one, because I added 
another family members to mine, I've found numerous mistakes, I try to write 
down the number and then only reload those files, but once I'm finished, I will 
reload this entire file to my website and in doing that, it would over write 
all the ones I'd manually added the pdf files to.

By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in Photoshop 
Elements, but it would not import the pdf file?

Thanks,

Syble

--- On Tue, 4/20/10, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:56 AM

Sybil,

If you don't know how to do that please ask on WUL,
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ where we can go into details of the
HTML coding and positioning.

Ron Ferguson


Brian/Support wrote:
 Connie,

 Legacy can only use picture files in webpages. It does not pick up
 document files such as PDFs. in order to include a PDF file as part of
 the webpage you would have to manually enter the webpage file on the
 page where you want the PDF to be available.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
 http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/

 We are changing the world of genealogy!
 When replying to this message, please include all previous
 correspondence.
 Thanks.

 On 19/04/2010 9:14 PM, Syble Glasscock wrote:
 Thanks, yes that worked, but when I created my web pages, it didn't
 pick up the pdf files, but yet it did all the jpeg files. Do you
 know why? Thanks, Syble

 --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com 
 http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ceddaco...@gmail.com   wrote:


 From: Randy Clarkceddaco...@gmail.com 
 http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ceddaco...@gmail.com 
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
 http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=legacyusergr...@legacyusers.com
 Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:35 PM


 Click on the picture frame and select file.

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Syble
 Glasscocksyble_...@yahoo.com 
 http://us.mc457.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=syble_...@yahoo.com   wrote:

 Is there a way to attach a pdf file to an Event?  I've found a
 source for some death certificates, but the only option to save
 them to my computer is a pdf format. Thanks,
 Syble Glasscock






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RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread CE Wood
A repository is the place where the source reposes.

If the microfilm is the source, where does it repose?  The library.

If the source is the newspaper article/clipping/notice, where does it repose?

If you are lucky enough to have a photo, pdf, etc., of the article, where does 
that copy repose?

For me, when I have hard or computer file copies of such, my source might be 
newspaper clipping' or the actual newspaper (if I have many from that 
particular newspaper).  The repository for copies in my possession is CE's 
library.  I put the file name that I gave it into the details.

If I found it on a website, I put the url goes into the details also.

As you mention, places go out of business, including websites, so whenever I 
can, I get a copy of some sort.

Bottom line - it's your choice; just be consistent.


CE


From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the repository the 
newspaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library with the microfilm 
collection?

If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and trying to 
clean up my earlier choices.

Rob


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Re: [LegacyUG] attaching a pdf file to an Event

2010-04-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
Syble Glasscock wrote
By chance is there a way to convert a pdf to a jpg, I tried to in
Photoshop Elements, but it would not import the pdf file?

I have Photoshop Elements and I can open a PDF file with it.  The
crucial word there is OPEN, not IMPORT.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
Rob Miller wrote
If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the
repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the
library with the microfilm collection?

The definition of Repository is a place where things are stored for
safe-keeping.

If you are accessing your data from an actual newspaper, the Repository
would be where that newspaper is stored or kept.  If you have viewed
images of the newspaper on film, the Repository is where the film is
stored or kept.
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[LegacyUG] Citing city directories

2010-04-20 Thread Scott Hall
I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city
directories.  I've looked through the archives and gleaned some
information, but still need some advice.  Like a lot of you, I rely
heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations
should look.  Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist
for help.  I think it important that sources be cited accurately and
completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again,
but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and
professional standards.

The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an
excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources
that are digitized and made available online.

The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as
people are likely familar, are published across multiple years,
sometimes with different titles and publishers.  I'm currently working
with the Rochester, NY city directories.  Here is my dilemmas and
question:

I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record
people's residences and occupations.  I'd like to avoid having 75
master sources (one for each year).  Instead, having a generic
citation for the years in which the same publisher published the
directory is my intent.  For Rochester, the directory was published by
C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis  Co. from 1872-43, and
then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918.  During these years, the
directory's title remained the same.  I can accomplish that by simply
putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping
such as 1869-1918.  However, when I get to the detail source I seem to
be stuck.  I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in
the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory
(volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page
206, etc. in a single citation.  I *could* have multiple detail
citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than
having multiple masters?  Thoughts?  How have you handled this?

What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of
information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each
should have their own reference.  I am not aware of an easy way to
split master sources other than finding the detailed information and
changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do.

Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the
master source?  For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information
such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it
italicized, can I do that somehow?

Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master
source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped?
 I currently have 82 master sources for federal censuses (one for each
county each year), which is necessary to have the proper citation.
After typing HertiageQuest Online in for the 40th time, I was sure
wishing I could simply copy the master source ...  yes, copy and paste
will work, but only for a single line.  I used it to avoid typing
http://www.hertiagequestonline.com; 82 times.

Thanks,
Scott



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RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Ron:

That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published materials, but 
it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even thought up by Mills).  I 
don't defend it and in fact, as in my response, I do make a note for my own use 
about where something was found.  It's just not a proper element of a source 
citation.

The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of published books 
where the name of my local library would be of little use to someone else.  
With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them at the Ontario Archives and I 
may find them at World Vital Records.  The important part of the citation is 
that they came originally from the Toronto Star.

Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that the 
repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to be stewed over.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


Kirsten,

With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the place at
which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows where
to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories there
are.

By your definition there would be no repositories for just about everything.

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Rob:

 Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper),
 it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would
 have different ways to access it.  That said, I do list the place
 where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation
 just in case I need to go back for some reason.  So you needn't worry
 over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about
 where you found the item.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


 If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the
 repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library
 with the microfilm collection?

 If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

 Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and
 trying to clean up my earlier choices.

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON
 robsfamilyt...@live.ca






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Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Ferguson
Kirsten,

Thank you for the clarification, even if I do feel that the convention is
rubbish! I don't agree that the name of your local library would be of
little use to anyone else. Within my published records there is one of a
great uncle who was murdered. Much of my information was taken from a book
which contained extracts from the local press at the time of the trial,
together with other information.

To the best of my knowledge the only copy of this book exists on a local
authority archive, although, come to think of it, there should be a copy in
the British Library. In any event the source of the local authority, and it
could easly have been the local library, would be of interest to a
researcher.

For accuracy's sake I would add that the convention is an American
convention and not a British one.

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Ron:

 That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published
 materials, but it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even
 thought up by Mills).  I don't defend it and in fact, as in my
 response, I do make a note for my own use about where something was
 found.  It's just not a proper element of a source citation.

 The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of
 published books where the name of my local library would be of little
 use to someone else.  With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them
 at the Ontario Archives and I may find them at World Vital Records.
 The important part of the citation is that they came originally from
 the Toronto Star.

 Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that
 the repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to
 be stewed over.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


 Kirsten,

 With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the
 place at
 which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows
 where
 to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories
 there
 are.

 By your definition there would be no repositories for just about
 everything.

 Ron Ferguson
 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Rob:

 Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper),
 it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would
 have different ways to access it.  That said, I do list the place
 where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation
 just in case I need to go back for some reason.  So you needn't worry
 over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about
 where you found the item.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


 If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the
 repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library
 with the microfilm collection?

 If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

 Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and
 trying to clean up my earlier choices.

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON
 robsfamilyt...@live.ca





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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories

2010-04-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
Scott Hall wrote
I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city
directories.

Are you using SourceWriter or Basic?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories

2010-04-20 Thread Ward Walker
Scott,

I was just struggling with this over the last couple of days. I ended up
having a single master for the city, and just put 'various publishers' in
the Publisher field. Your way is better, but in my case the publisher seemed
to change almost yearly and it didn't seem to be a very important piece of
information. Then I cited a detail source for each year, typing in the year
and the page number, and typing the directory entry/entries for that person
in the detail text (not to appear in the citation). So in your example,
person B would have 3 detail citations, not one. If I'm sourcing a page that
indicates that the person's brother was rooming at his residence, then more
typing of text but a single citation.

For your second question, the control codes work when you highlight the text
(cntl i, cntl b, cntl u), but there is a trick for turning off the default
italics. Try typing «i»«/i»subtitle after the main title. This seems to turn
off the automatic italics for the subtitle.

For the last question, when I copy a full source citation (master and
detail) to the source clipboard, I get a prompt asking if I want to copy the
detail. One option is to say yes, then when you paste it, remember to go in
and change only the necessary parts of the detail. (You need to enable the
option to prompt you for details when you paste from the clipboard.)

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories


I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city
directories.  I've looked through the archives and gleaned some
information, but still need some advice.  Like a lot of you, I rely
heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations
should look.  Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist
for help.  I think it important that sources be cited accurately and
completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again,
but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and
professional standards.

The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an
excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources
that are digitized and made available online.

The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as
people are likely familar, are published across multiple years,
sometimes with different titles and publishers.  I'm currently working
with the Rochester, NY city directories.  Here is my dilemmas and
question:

I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record
people's residences and occupations.  I'd like to avoid having 75
master sources (one for each year).  Instead, having a generic
citation for the years in which the same publisher published the
directory is my intent.  For Rochester, the directory was published by
C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis  Co. from 1872-43, and
then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918.  During these years, the
directory's title remained the same.  I can accomplish that by simply
putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping
such as 1869-1918.  However, when I get to the detail source I seem to
be stuck.  I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in
the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory
(volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page
206, etc. in a single citation.  I *could* have multiple detail
citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than
having multiple masters?  Thoughts?  How have you handled this?

What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of
information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each
should have their own reference.  I am not aware of an easy way to
split master sources other than finding the detailed information and
changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do.

Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the
master source?  For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information
such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it
italicized, can I do that somehow?

Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master
source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped?
 I currently have 82 master sources for federal censuses (one for each
county each year), which is necessary to have the proper citation.
After typing HertiageQuest Online in for the 40th time, I was sure
wishing I could simply copy the master source ...  yes, copy and paste
will work, but only for a single line.  I used it to avoid typing
http://www.hertiagequestonline.com; 82 times.

Thanks,
Scott





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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Laura,

 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in BOLD - not able to see
 any difference
 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as the preferred child -
 can't see any asterisk next to the name

I had forgotten, until you mentioned it, that the bold didn't show on my
computer for a long time.  I never knew why.  I can't remember now what
triggered its appearance, but it was either switching to a new computer
or a Legacy upgrade/update.

I use the Arial font, and the bold is very obvious to me, in the
children listed in Family View, and in the Names List.

For the asterisk, do you have checked the box that says Indicate
Preferred children in Child List (*)?  Options  Customize  Data
Format.  I wouldn't have thought from the wording that would affect it
showing in Family View, but perhaps it's worth investigating.

If you've got everything set as it should be, and it's not doing what
it's supposed to, you should probably contact Support for assistance.

In case anyone is wondering what the bold lettering and/or the asterisk
should look like in Family View, I've taken a screen shot and uploaded
it to my Facebook account so I can share it here.  Go to
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3993889l=1237962d09id=644567880
You do not need a Facebook account, or be logged in, to view that
picture.  Child #7, Susan Mary Craske WATSON has the asterisk and is in
bold.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wendyh65/
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/



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RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread CE Wood
Kirsten Bowman wrote:
It's just not a proper element of a source citation.

Kristen, it ISN'T part of the source citation!

In Reports, you have to check the box to include it.  In Family View, Sources, 
you have to click on the Repository tab to see it.

What you enter as the repository is where your source, reposes.  It is not the 
source, and is NOT part of the source citation.  It is additional information 
that you can add TO the source citation.  It enables you or someone else to 
know where the source can be found.

CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread Laura Johnson
The asterisk does show when you select the Children's setting BUT
..I DONT want to have to do that in order to see which child is
the preferred child which in my case is my direct ancestor.

Times New Roman - I can't see the difference in bold there either.  I
thought that maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that I only use
legacy in the upper half of my screen and am typing from the excel files
in the bottom half but I just tried Legacy full screen and it is the
same way - still cannot distinguish the BOLD or the asterisk after the
child's name.  I am running Legacy with the latest update.

So, I decided to see if it was just this computer or if I could
replicate it on my laptop.  Both Legacy programs have exactly the same
settings.  The only difference is that the laptop is Vista Professional
64-bit.  The computer is XP Essential for Business.  Both screens look
exactly alike and I cannot see the bold or asterisk.

So I did another experiment.  I unchecked to show the asterisk.  Closed
Legacy then reopened it.  The asterisk now appears.

So I thought maybe if that worked, I would try fixing the bold - I
unchecked show direct ancestor in bold, closed Legacy and restarted -
but that didn't make it appear any bolder than the other children.

Connie Sheets wrote:
 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


 Laura,

 You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial
 Bold, have you?

 Ron Ferguson


 My font is set to Times New Roman, regular, and while the direct line does 
 show in bold, it is difficult for my aging eyes to discern the subtle 
 difference.  I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it 
 used to, but maybe not.

 Should I forget which child is mine, I right click on the children's area 
 of the screen, select Children's Settings and then can navigate from the 
 Children's List, which does show the asterisk.

 Connie





 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the  Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Laura Johnson wrote:

 Wendy

 1.  I already have the relationships set to

 appear  with me as the

 starting point
 2.  I already have it set to show direct line in

 BOLD - not able to

 see any difference
 3.  I already have each direct ancestor appear as

 the preferred child

 - can't see any asterisk next to the name

 So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT

 tell which child

 is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as

 bold nor do I

 see the asterisk

 So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only

 thing that appears

 to make it stand out

 Wendy Howard wrote:

 Hi Laura,



 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances

 of a surname and on

 others, just regular?  In FTM, I had my

 direct line in ALL CAPS.

 All others with the same surname were typed

 regularly.

 You've already had responses that have told you

 that yes, you can

 have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list,

 but they will be

 separate, unattached names.  That may not be

 what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for

 highlighting your direct

 line?  You don't have to rely on capital

 letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold

 lettering.  Options 

 Customize  Data Format  Indicate

 direct-line children in lists

 (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the

 central couple in Family

 View.  Tools  Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred

 child in any family.

 It's automatically applied to the first child

 entered, but it is

 quickly changed if desired.  Right-click on a

 child in Family View

 and select Children's Settings; select the child

 you want and click

 on Set to Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps.  :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard




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Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories

2010-04-20 Thread Ward Walker
Whoa, that didn't translate very well. Where did those A's with hats come
from?

The idea is to add the codes to turn italics on and off again with no text
string between. I.e., an 'i' enclosed in left and right double angle
brackets, then a '/i' also enclosed in double angle brackets. Or just type
some text, highlight it, press cntl i, then delete the temporary text.

- Original Message -
From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories


Scott,

I was just struggling with this over the last couple of days. I ended up
having a single master for the city, and just put 'various publishers' in
the Publisher field. Your way is better, but in my case the publisher seemed
to change almost yearly and it didn't seem to be a very important piece of
information. Then I cited a detail source for each year, typing in the year
and the page number, and typing the directory entry/entries for that person
in the detail text (not to appear in the citation). So in your example,
person B would have 3 detail citations, not one. If I'm sourcing a page that
indicates that the person's brother was rooming at his residence, then more
typing of text but a single citation.

For your second question, the control codes work when you highlight the text
(cntl i, cntl b, cntl u), but there is a trick for turning off the default
italics. Try typing «i»«/i»subtitle after the main title. This 
seems to
turn
off the automatic italics for the subtitle.

For the last question, when I copy a full source citation (master and
detail) to the source clipboard, I get a prompt asking if I want to copy the
detail. One option is to say yes, then when you paste it, remember to go in
and change only the necessary parts of the detail. (You need to enable the
option to prompt you for details when you paste from the clipboard.)

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories


I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city
directories.  I've looked through the archives and gleaned some
information, but still need some advice.  Like a lot of you, I rely
heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations
should look.  Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist
for help.  I think it important that sources be cited accurately and
completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again,
but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and
professional standards.

The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an
excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources
that are digitized and made available online.

The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as
people are likely familar, are published across multiple years,
sometimes with different titles and publishers.  I'm currently working
with the Rochester, NY city directories.  Here is my dilemmas and
question:

I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record
people's residences and occupations.  I'd like to avoid having 75
master sources (one for each year).  Instead, having a generic
citation for the years in which the same publisher published the
directory is my intent.  For Rochester, the directory was published by
C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis  Co. from 1872-43, and
then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918.  During these years, the
directory's title remained the same.  I can accomplish that by simply
putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping
such as 1869-1918.  However, when I get to the detail source I seem to
be stuck.  I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in
the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory
(volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page
206, etc. in a single citation.  I *could* have multiple detail
citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than
having multiple masters?  Thoughts?  How have you handled this?

What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of
information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each
should have their own reference.  I am not aware of an easy way to
split master sources other than finding the detailed information and
changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do.

Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the
master source?  For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information
such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it
italicized, can I do that somehow?

Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master
source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped?
 I currently have 82 master sources for federal 

RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Charles Apple
If I may interject a thought into this thread. I tend to agree that my local 
library is of little use to someone else in another state wishing to locate 
one of my sources. Whenever possible I use WorldCat as my repository located at 
http://www.oclc.org/worldcat . This way others can locate the relevant book or 
source and have it loaned to their library.

This suggestion was actually provided by Elizabeth Shown Mills in one her books 
on citing sources, in particular books. Hope this helps a little.

Charles

-Original Message-
From: Kirsten Bowman [mailto:vik...@rvi.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

Ron:

That's true, there would be no repositories cited for published materials, but 
it's not my rule, it's common convention (not even thought up by Mills).  I 
don't defend it and in fact, as in my response, I do make a note for my own use 
about where something was found.  It's just not a proper element of a source 
citation.

The repository omission especially makes sense in the case of published books 
where the name of my local library would be of little use to someone else.  
With Rob's Toronto newspapers, he may find them at the Ontario Archives and I 
may find them at World Vital Records.  The important part of the citation is 
that they came originally from the Toronto Star.

Again, I'm not defending--and not even recommending--just saying that the 
repository of a published item is not a part of the citation to be stewed over.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


Kirsten,

With respect I totally disagree. The repostory, in my view, is the place at
which one found the document being cited, so that somebody else knows where
to look. It does not matter one iota how many different repositories there
are.

By your definition there would be no repositories for just about everything.

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Kirsten Bowman wrote:
 Rob:

 Technically, if the information was published (as in a newspaper),
 it's not proper to cite a repository since different people would
 have different ways to access it.  That said, I do list the place
 where *I* found it as a separate note outside of the source citation
 just in case I need to go back for some reason.  So you needn't worry
 over which is the repository, just make a note to yourself about
 where you found the item.

 Kirsten

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Miller [mailto:robsfamilyt...@live.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:46 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


 If you find a birth/marriage/death notice on microfilm, is the
 repository the newpaper company (i.e. Toronto Star), or the library
 with the microfilm collection?

 If it is the newspaper, what if the newspaper is out of business?

 Thanks! I'm moving some of my older sources into SourceWriter and
 trying to clean up my earlier choices.

 Rob


 Rob Miller
 Toronto, ON
 robsfamilyt...@live.ca






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RE: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem

2010-04-20 Thread leo macdonald

Hi Laura,

Have you tried going to CustomizeColors, in the colors screen about half way 
down on the right side you will see three buttons labeled Male, Female and 
Unknown, have you tried changing the colors until you find a color that will 
show up clearer when the bold type is used.

I'm using a light shade of dark blue for Male, a light shade of red for Female 
and a light shade of green for Unknown. The bold type is quite a bit darker.

This works for me.

Leo

 From: rngad...@madisontelco.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Case Problem
 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:09:27 -0500

 The asterisk does show when you select the Children's setting BUT
 ..I DONT want to have to do that in order to see which child is
 the preferred child which in my case is my direct ancestor.

 Times New Roman - I can't see the difference in bold there either. I
 thought that maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that I only use
 legacy in the upper half of my screen and am typing from the excel files
 in the bottom half but I just tried Legacy full screen and it is the
 same way - still cannot distinguish the BOLD or the asterisk after the
 child's name. I am running Legacy with the latest update.

 So, I decided to see if it was just this computer or if I could
 replicate it on my laptop. Both Legacy programs have exactly the same
 settings. The only difference is that the laptop is Vista Professional
 64-bit. The computer is XP Essential for Business. Both screens look
 exactly alike and I cannot see the bold or asterisk.

 So I did another experiment. I unchecked to show the asterisk. Closed
 Legacy then reopened it. The asterisk now appears.

 So I thought maybe if that worked, I would try fixing the bold - I
 unchecked show direct ancestor in bold, closed Legacy and restarted -
 but that didn't make it appear any bolder than the other children.

 Connie Sheets wrote:
 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:


 Laura,

 You haven't got your font set to a bold typeface, eg. Arial
 Bold, have you?

 Ron Ferguson


 My font is set to Times New Roman, regular, and while the direct line does 
 show in bold, it is difficult for my aging eyes to discern the subtle 
 difference. I'm surprised the * doesn't show on Family View; I thought it 
 used to, but maybe not.

 Should I forget which child is mine, I right click on the children's area 
 of the screen, select Children's Settings and then can navigate from the 
 Children's List, which does show the asterisk.

 Connie





 _

 Completely rewritten and revised:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 And the Fergusons of N.W. England
 


 Laura Johnson wrote:

 Wendy

 1. I already have the relationships set to

 appear with me as the

 starting point
 2. I already have it set to show direct line in

 BOLD - not able to

 see any difference
 3. I already have each direct ancestor appear as

 the preferred child

 - can't see any asterisk next to the name

 So even though I can see the relationships, I CANNOT

 tell which child

 is the direct descendant because they do NOT appear as

 bold nor do I

 see the asterisk

 So the ALL CAPS on the direct ancestor is the only

 thing that appears

 to make it stand out

 Wendy Howard wrote:

 Hi Laura,



 is there any way to all CAPS on some instances

 of a surname and on

 others, just regular? In FTM, I had my

 direct line in ALL CAPS.

 All others with the same surname were typed

 regularly.

 You've already had responses that have told you

 that yes, you can

 have Sansone and SANSONE in your surnames list,

 but they will be

 separate, unattached names. That may not be

 what you want.

 Did you know that you have other methods for

 highlighting your direct

 line? You don't have to rely on capital

 letters here.

 You can have your direct line showing in bold

 lettering. Options

 Customize Data Format Indicate

 direct-line children in lists

 (bold)

 You can have relationships showing above the

 central couple in Family

 View. Tools Set Relationships

 You can put an asterisk against a preferred

 child in any family.

 It's automatically applied to the first child

 entered, but it is

 quickly changed if desired. Right-click on a

 child in Family View

 and select Children's Settings; select the child

 you want and click

 on Set to Preferred Child.

 Hope this helps. :-)

 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard




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RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?

2010-04-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
CE:

Exactly.  And if your source reposes in some unique place then it's appropriate 
to include that information with the citation.  But if your source is _The 
Dictionary of Canadian Biography_, then the publisher's information is 
sufficient and the repository would be redundant, although it can be noted for 
your own reference.  I don't think there's any real disagreement in what we're 
saying.

Kirsten


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From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] BMD announcement respository?


Kirsten Bowman wrote:
It's just not a proper element of a source citation.

Kristen, it ISN'T part of the source citation!

In Reports, you have to check the box to include it.  In Family View, Sources, 
you have to click on the Repository tab to see it.

What you enter as the repository is where your source, reposes.  It is not the 
source, and is NOT part of the source citation.  It is additional information 
that you can add TO the source citation.  It enables you or someone else to 
know where the source can be found.

CE







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Re: [LegacyUG] No help in Vista

2010-04-20 Thread Brian/Support
Stein Arne,

The Vista message you are getting indicates that you are running an old
Version of Legacy. The Legacy Help files for Vista have been included in
all the versions since one of the updates to Legacy 6 which was issued
after Vista was issued.

Please Visit our Home page www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Click on the Help
Center menu item and select Technical Support. You will see a link to
Windows 7 and Vista compatibility. That includes information on using
older versions of Legacy with Vista.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 20/04/2010 9:55 AM, Stein Arne Jensen wrote:
 I tried it again. This time the windows reopend its help window with the
 following explanation

 Why can't I get Help from this program?
 Why can't I get Help from this program?

 The Help for this program was created in Windows Help format, which depends
 on a feature that is not included in Windows Vista. However, you can
 download a program that will allow you view Help created in the Windows Help
 format from the 
 Microsofthttp://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=82148website.

 For more information, go to the Windows Help program
 (WinHlp32.exe)http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=59782article on
 the Microsoft support website.

 I followed the described procedure to the end and reinstalled this exe file
 (a windows update). When the installation finished I returned to the still
 open Legacy to close it and restart. I now got a message that Windows help
 could not find the the Legacy helpfile and that I might have to reinstall
 it. Since I was about to quit the program I just clicked on cancel.

 When I restarted Legacy again, the help buttons still don't work, but now I
 get no error message!?!

 So far I've tried the help button in the window where I edit the information
 for a person and then the central place register. No reaction.

 Maybe this is something the Legacy developers should fix, since people will
 have the same problem with Windows 7 in the future. Maybe they'll have to
 rewrite the help system.
 Stein Arne



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