Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Rich S wrote: <> You do not need to be Mormon to use Beta.familysearch.org, or the original Familysearch.org. They do not contain the new integrated genealogy, but have much data from original records as well as older genealogy databases. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Helen, Just to add my two cents on the subject of location fields and Legacy "terminology". I live in the U.S. and I have chosen not to use the 4-field format. So you may think that it's a U.S. thing but it doesn't fit into what I do with Legacy either. Like Ron, I found that I can put the full address into any location field to fully describe the location. Sorting to read from right to left is the trick! Mary -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology Helen, No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way in which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address formats when set to read from right to left. No the problem is with users, who insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all the world uses it. Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there is a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 3:38 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > Connie, Two ideas for generating more $$ for Legacy. > > How about a Legacy UK, or Legacy Canada, or Legacy Australia & New > Zealand (if the two can be lumped together), Legacy Latin America > flavour? There could be differences in the methods of entering addresses > and in the way of entering sources/citations, whatever. > > Legacy is far from alone in its American attitude toward writing > software. In fact it's typical of most (PC) software today. But if it > went "international", it would certainly set a great precedent and bring > kudos to Legacy. > > Second idea is a hard cover manual. We don't have a television and > videos, even if I could hear and watch them, aren't my learning style. > Even a Legacy for Dummies would be a good start and I'd certainly buy > one. Or "Best of LUG Archives" hard cover, grouped by general subject? > I'd buy that one too. > > Helen > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp <>
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
They do. If you want to see it, change the language to a different English. The forms (FGS, descendant, etc.) have different wording. I switch between American, Spanish, Norwegian-Tronder, Swedish and French. You can send forms to relatives in their language/dialect. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Cheryl Rothwell wrote: From: Cheryl Rothwell Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 11:57 AM I have to ask - they translated Legacy from English in UK -ese??? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: Helen, No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] how big?
I don't think there is a norm, I use mydb.***, then for a new gedcom new.***. Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 10/17/10, Carol Costa wrote: From: Carol Costa Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] how big? To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 9:26 AM I have about 20,000 in my file. I’m getting worried about that too. I just can’t seem to stop adding people. Help me……. From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's the norm? Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Are you a Mormon that is registered on line with newFamilySearch? I am not Mormon so about Christmas, NFS is hoping to be able to open the new database to the general public. Until then, we can only access the old way. I could not tell your status from your note. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 10/16/10, JT wrote: > From: JT > Subject: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Date: Saturday, October 16, 2010, 6:28 AM > I have been trying to enter > familysearchBeta' s URL into the advanced search > form on the Internet from these search the Internet form in > Legacy. For > some reason I can't get the customize searches to do what I > want it to. > Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone show > me the string of data > that would go into the customize searches part of the form > to get it to > automatically enter the first name, last name,, birthdate, > death date, birth > year, and death year data into the advanced search section > of > familysearchBeta on the web. > > I hope I didn't make this too confusing. > > Thanks > JT > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
What do the British or others use for citations in scholarly papers? The Chicago Manual of Style is a lot used, but when I typed my husband's Master's thesis (in philosophy), he had to use the MLA (Modern Language Association) style guide. So what style guides are used in Europe or South Africa? Is the continental or South African set much different? Elizabeth C Connie Sheets wrote: > Actually, Mike, over here the psychologists use the APA reference style, not > the Chicago Manual of Style. There are so many style guides, it makes the > head spin. > > But my point was that Legacy staff did not make up most of the terminology. > The British Medical Association has a webpage that discusses citations, > citing electronic resources, etc. And Monash University in Australia has a > web page "Citing and referencing: How to acknowledge your sources," although > the style guides they list seem to be American. > > Now that I will admit to: Americans deciding there need to be > standards/rules for how to cite sources, and then writing a dozen or more > guides insisting the style in each book is the proper one. :-) > > Connie > > Mike Fry wrote: > > >> On 2010/10/17 05:15, Connie Sheets >> wrote: >> >>> "Cite Your Sources: A Manual for Documenting Family Histories and >>> and Genealogical Records " by Richard Lackey was published in 1986, >>> >>> so this is not Legacy terminology, nor particularly recent >>> >>> terminology. >>> >> American author. American publisher. >> >>> It is also not terminology specific to genealogy. Psychologists, >>> historians, >>> librarians, etc. all have formats and guidelines for citing sources. >>> >> It uses the Chicago Manual of Style - a US-defined set of standards. >> I see a pattern developing here :-) >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Mike Fry >> Johannesburg >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to cite this source?
Jean, I'm happy to hear my suggestion worked. Personally, I stick with the "family papers" source for those newspaper clippings where the source information is unknown. I don't have a generic newspaper clipping source. I don't necessarily have anything against using one, I just haven't had the need. If another researcher sends me a clipping from her personal collection then I create a "Jane Doe Family Papers" source. I the clipping came from a library collection, I would used Artifact > Held in Archive. Regards, Terri From: Jean Suplick To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 9:51:55 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to cite this source? Terri, I had a chance to play around with your suggestion this morning, and it worked beautifully. I now have a master source called Suplick-Spingola Family Papers, and add, in the "item of interest" field in source detail for each citation, a descriptive name of the artifact. Follow-up question After my mother died, I collected up her presonal stash of artifacts, and put them together with mine and those of her mother, into binders with acid free vinyl sleeves. The collection includes many wedding invitations and birth announcements, and it also contains many newspaper clippings (unsourced), as well as other tidbits. For the newspaper clippings, I read some old messages about how one might source these. But now I'm in a quandry. Would it be best for me to cite my new "Suplick-Spingola Family Papers" as the source for these? Or create a separate artifact source for "Newspaper clipping, unsourced"? Thanks for your opinions. Jean Suplick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Hello Helen, Ron is correct. I did start writing The Legacy Family sometime during Legacy 5 actually, missed the 6 release and just made it for version 7. There were in fact many ideas I wanted to incorporate into the book, they never made it, so I held these concepts over the follow-up book. The Legacy Family description you have cited is from the main page of the Legacy Store, but if you clicked the Extended Information link or this one http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TLF&Show=ExtInfo [1] it will inform you of what you will find in each chapter. Since TLF came out, I have been working on the sequel which is now just over 500 pp and purely on Legacy only and calculate that I am only 1/3 finished. This followup will be more to what you are looking for in the fact that I have labelled it a Comprehensive How-To, which will cover ALL features, every single one! Kind Regards, Mark On Mon 18/10/10 02:11 , "Ron Ferguson" ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk sent: Helen, I know that Mark started writing the book before Legacy7 was published, and although I have not read it myself, my understanding is that it does cover all the basics. Perhaps he could comment himself? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ [2] -- From: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:09 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > >> Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there >> is >> a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy >> at >> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 [5] > > I checked it out, Ron. Here's what it says in part.. > > > "The Legacy Family - PDF version > > Whether you are just starting out or a seasoned professional, The Legacy > Family, written by Legacy user Mark Lang, shows you all the new features > found in Legacy 7.." > > > Problem with this is that I don't just want to learn about the features > that are new in Legacy 7, I want to learn about ALL the features, since > Legacy 1.0. I never anywhere near mastered legacy 6 just for starters. > > Helen > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp [6] Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/javascript:top.opencompose(\'legacyusergr...@legacyusers.com\',\'\',\'\',\'\') [7]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/javascript:top.opencompose(\'legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com\',\'\',\'\',\'\') [8]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp [9] To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp [10] Message sent via Adam Internet WebMail - http://www.adam.com.au/ Links: -- [1] http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=TLF&Show=ExtInfo [2] http://www.fergys.co.uk/ [3] mailto:ci...@treadles.ca [4] mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com [5] https://webmail.adam.com.au/mail/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legacyfamilytreestore.com%2FSearchResults.asp%3FCat%3D5 [6] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp [7] http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ [8] http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ [9] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp [10] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Ron, Thank you. Your explanation really does help. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology Charles, That is absolutely correct. There are few, or no, restrictions on the Location Field. If you go to the Master Location List and look at the sort list it is sorted from biggest to smallest, it doesn't matter what the names are, the biggest to smallest is true for all countries. So with that arrangement set, click the "Right to Left" radio button (bottom right) and you will see that they are greyed out. On leaving that screen check the box next to the Sort button. Now just enter your location in the Location Field box from the lowest to highest, and the jobs done, but do not expect the Geo-locator to work properly. It may in some countries but not in the UK when locations are entered correctly, with the countries being England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The mapping works perfectly down to Street level (if it is still there). For example my (modified) address in the place I was born is recorded as: 6, Park Street, Winton, Eccles, Lancashire, England, the current address would be: 6, Park Street, Winton, Eccles, Salford, Lancashire, England. As the number of fields is less than 9, the maximum allowed, both work perfectly. If you go to any of the pedigree pages (for a deceased person) on my website you will see this type of format in use (except that I have only recently started to use a separate field for the house number/name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Sorry, Charles, I should have been a bit more specific re. my website; look for the Residence Event. A good direct link would be http://www.fergys.co.uk/genealogy/19.php Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "Charles Apple" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:16 PM To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > Ron, > > Please correct me if I am wrong. As I understand from your post, the > limitations of the location fields in Legacy, are self imposed by the user > relative to the way he or she perceives location entry, and is not a short > coming of Legacy itself. Is my understanding correct or way off base? > > It is important that I have a good understanding of this topic, since many > of my ancestors are from England, France, Germany, and Scotland. > > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:57 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > > Helen, > > No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, > although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The > problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way > in > which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address > formats > when set to read from right to left. No the problem is with users, who > insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, and, if you like, the > Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all the world uses it. > > Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there > is > a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy > at > http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] how big?
don't stop now. I am just shy of 50,000 at this point and I have a long way to go to finish entering all of the documents from one town in Sicily. I couldn't get my file to function properly in FTM 2008, 2009, or 2010 and I have fully switched to Legacy 6, then 7 without any problems at all. On 10/17/2010 11:26 AM, Carol Costa wrote: > > I have about 20,000 in my file. I’m getting worried about that too. > I just can’t seem to stop adding people. Help me……. > > *From:* Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net] > *Sent:* Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > *Subject:* [LegacyUG] how big? > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I > originally started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file > and just skipping all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them > up and naming the Legacy file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I > did it to make things easier but I this might be a mistake. How does > average Legacy user do it? Do they keep several lines in one file? My > last name is Cordell so it was also weird to name the file cordell.fdb > when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's the norm? Thanks. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Charles, That is absolutely correct. There are few, or no, restrictions on the Location Field. If you go to the Master Location List and look at the sort list it is sorted from biggest to smallest, it doesn't matter what the names are, the biggest to smallest is true for all countries. So with that arrangement set, click the "Right to Left" radio button (bottom right) and you will see that they are greyed out. On leaving that screen check the box next to the Sort button. Now just enter your location in the Location Field box from the lowest to highest, and the jobs done, but do not expect the Geo-locator to work properly. It may in some countries but not in the UK when locations are entered correctly, with the countries being England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The mapping works perfectly down to Street level (if it is still there). For example my (modified) address in the place I was born is recorded as: 6, Park Street, Winton, Eccles, Lancashire, England, the current address would be: 6, Park Street, Winton, Eccles, Salford, Lancashire, England. As the number of fields is less than 9, the maximum allowed, both work perfectly. If you go to any of the pedigree pages (for a deceased person) on my website you will see this type of format in use (except that I have only recently started to use a separate field for the house number/name. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "Charles Apple" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:16 PM To: Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > Ron, > > Please correct me if I am wrong. As I understand from your post, the > limitations of the location fields in Legacy, are self imposed by the user > relative to the way he or she perceives location entry, and is not a short > coming of Legacy itself. Is my understanding correct or way off base? > > It is important that I have a good understanding of this topic, since many > of my ancestors are from England, France, Germany, and Scotland. > > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:57 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > > Helen, > > No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, > although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The > problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way > in > which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address > formats > when set to read from right to left. No the problem is with users, who > insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, and, if you like, the > Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all the world uses it. > > Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there > is > a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy > at > http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Ron, Please correct me if I am wrong. As I understand from your post, the limitations of the location fields in Legacy, are self imposed by the user relative to the way he or she perceives location entry, and is not a short coming of Legacy itself. Is my understanding correct or way off base? It is important that I have a good understanding of this topic, since many of my ancestors are from England, France, Germany, and Scotland. Charles -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 11:57 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology Helen, No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way in which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address formats when set to read from right to left. No the problem is with users, who insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all the world uses it. Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there is a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
I have to ask - they translated Legacy from English in UK -ese??? On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Helen, > > No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, > although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Thanks for that info Ron. JT -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 12:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form Try: https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search#searchType=records&collectionId=&advanced=false&fed=true&page=1&givenName=[FirstName]&surname=[SurName]&birthYear=[StartYear]&birthLocation=&deathYear=[EndYear]&deathLocation=&filtered=false Don't forget to change the second box to read: [ ]=[+] Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "JT" Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:28 PM To: Subject: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form > I have been trying to enter familysearchBeta' s URL into the advanced > search > form on the Internet from these search the Internet form in Legacy. For > some reason I can't get the customize searches to do what I want it to. > Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone show me the string > of data that would go into the customize searches part of the form to > get it to automatically enter the first name, last name,, birthdate, > death date, birth year, and death year data into the advanced search > section of familysearchBeta on the web. > > I hope I didn't make this too confusing. > > Thanks > JT > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
> You will find excellent directions in the Legacy Help File. I've studied it and tried it and got nowhere. Many thanks from me too for your help. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] how big?
If each of your separate surname files are in Legacy, there is the 'file --> import from' feature that would permit you to combine them. The issue then is to merge all the duplicates you may have created. If you have the same person with different spellings of the name that could create a situation of manually merging those persons - very labor intensive if you have 20K people in file. When I brought my FTM files over to LEgacy some years ago, I reduced each separate file to a GEDCOM, and then imported each of the GEDCOM into one LEgacy file. Took a lot of work and I'm still correcting stuff. Bob On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Carol Costa wrote: > I have about 20,000 in my file. I’m getting worried about that too. I just > can’t seem to stop adding people. Help me……. > > From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally > started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping > all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy > file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but > I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep > several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to > name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's > the norm? Thanks. > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
On 10/17/2010 1:46 PM, K McGee wrote: > Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. > > A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could > I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the > placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of > birth and death to this would I have to add them in specific places > within the query? > > Again, thanks!! > K You will find excellent directions in the Legacy Help File. In Help, under the Search tab, type Create Custom Internet Search and hit List Topics. This takes you to Create Custom Internet Search (Deluxe Edition only). This will explain how to do this in understandable terms better than I could. -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Yep, and it's amazing how easily a person can embarrass themselves by not making sure they know what they're asking: Requesting locations on these forms - not possible. At 07:03 PM 10/17/2010 +0100, you wrote: >Not Gene, but there we go!! > >The best way of leaning about search strings is to search for somebody whose >details you know. Now copy the string which is in the site's URL and paste >it into any text editor, look where the details are, and these are the >places to add the Legacy data codes i.e. [FirstName] etc.. > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk > >-- >From: "K McGee" >Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:46 PM >To: >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form > > > Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. > > > > A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could > > I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the > > placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of > > birth and death to this would I have to add them in specific places > > within the query? > > > > Again, thanks!! > > K > > > > At 01:26 PM 10/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: > >>On 10/17/2010 12:45 PM, K McGee wrote: > >> > THANK YOU!! Perfect! > >> > Now if you could do Footnote . . . > >> > > >> > >>Footnote: > >> > >>http://www.footnote.com/searchdocuments.php?query=[GivenNames]+[La > stName]+[BirthYear]#10048946 > >> > >>[ ]=[%20] > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Gene Young > >>Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada > >>With Legacy Family Tree > >>http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
Ron - thanks for the explanation - and yes, I want to do convert Detail sourcing data to Master source data which you indicate is not feasible. The only reason I want to convert the data is that I use an iMAC and Legacy does not have a MAC version. I have been so advised that it never will - pity . In order to convert to the iMAC program I want to use - REUNION - it does not recognize detail files and I am having to convert details for some 20,000 individuals to get the package to recognize the master source data only. I love Legacy, but to use it with a MAC is pretty cumbersome - installation of VMware on a virtual machine to use Windows, etc., creates printer problems, program redundancies, etc. Bob On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:42 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Bob, > > Firstly may I say that I do not understand what you are trying to do to, or > at least why you are trying to do it. A fileID is something which is > individual to a specific file. In the case of the Detail FileID it is used > by most to reference the paper copies of the files to which the Source > Detail refer. Personally I don't keep many paper files, so I don't use it. > > You say that, "For example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 > and would like to convert this to a Master Source numbered . " what does > this mean - that you wish co convert detail source into Master Sources. If > so the answer is that it cannot be done automatically as you are trying to > convert apples into pears. What Search and Replace means is replacing alpha > numeric data with new or alpha numeric data (or for some ASCI characters). > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > -- > From: "Robert Runion" > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:22 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? > >> Ron - your suggestion intrigues me. I am in the throes of trying to >> change a lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data. For >> example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to >> convert this to a Master Source numbered . Is there a way to use the >> 'searcdh>search and replace' feature you indicate? The options noted there >> do not seem to be the ones I need. >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >> >>> Jean, >>> >>> You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate >>> citation to make a global correction. >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jean Suplick >>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:42 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? >>> >>> >>> This has greatly influenced my approach on how to record infomation also. >>> If >>> you copy/paste a clipboard source to 5 events for each of 5 individuals, >>> you >>> have 25 records in the database now. Fixing a typo or adding some >>> additional >>> information becomes a huge task. You have to go to each event for each >>> individual and change the source detail. >>> >>> The best way to reduce this extra work, of course, is to get the source >>> right the first time, and that requires discipline. However, for those >>> who >>> are evolving their sourcing skills or who are new to Legacy, revisiting >>> sources and making updates is a way of life. I wish there was an easier >>> way >>> to make updates of this nature. I wish the Legacy developers could come >>> up >>> with a way to make this easier. >>> >>> Jean Suplick >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dick Nixon wrote: >>> >>> I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to >>> use the source detail and clipboards. >>> >>> It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT, >>> once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data >>> base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a >>> typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one >>> place to see where they were used. This has greatly influenced how I >>> record the census and other info., and how I approach >>> splitting/lumping. Eg., I put the census info. in an event. >>> >>> Dick >>> >>> > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legac
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Not Gene, but there we go!! The best way of leaning about search strings is to search for somebody whose details you know. Now copy the string which is in the site's URL and paste it into any text editor, look where the details are, and these are the places to add the Legacy data codes i.e. [FirstName] etc.. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk -- From: "K McGee" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:46 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form > Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. > > A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could > I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the > placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of > birth and death to this would I have to add them in specific places > within the query? > > Again, thanks!! > K > > At 01:26 PM 10/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: >>On 10/17/2010 12:45 PM, K McGee wrote: >> > THANK YOU!! Perfect! >> > Now if you could do Footnote . . . >> > >> >>Footnote: >> >>http://www.footnote.com/searchdocuments.php?query=[GivenNames]+[LastName]+[BirthYear]#10048946 >> >>[ ]=[%20] >> >>-- >> >>Gene Young >>Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada >>With Legacy Family Tree >>http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Super, Gene! Thanks a lot. A few other questions, how did you know to add the last digits; could I add +[DeathYear] after [BirthYear] and before #10048946? Is the placement of the items important: if I were to add locations of birth and death to this would I have to add them in specific places within the query? Again, thanks!! K At 01:26 PM 10/17/2010 -0400, you wrote: >On 10/17/2010 12:45 PM, K McGee wrote: > > THANK YOU!! Perfect! > > Now if you could do Footnote . . . > > > >Footnote: > >http://www.footnote.com/searchdocuments.php?query=[GivenNames]+[LastName]+[BirthYear]#10048946 > >[ ]=[%20] > >-- > >Gene Young >Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada >With Legacy Family Tree >http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
On 10/17/2010 12:45 PM, K McGee wrote: > THANK YOU!! Perfect! > Now if you could do Footnote . . . > Footnote: http://www.footnote.com/searchdocuments.php?query=[GivenNames]+[LastName]+[BirthYear]#10048946 [ ]=[%20] -- Gene Young Researching Young, Harer, Cox & Sallada With Legacy Family Tree http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Sorry Ron, I've never had a problem with it (with ancestors in Canada, UK & USA) so can't speak for others outside America. Helen On 17-Oct-10 12:38 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Helen, > > With respect, my point was regarding the users who recommend, or insist, or > assume that everyone should/does use the 4 field format stating it to be the > standard. It might be in America, but not the rest of the world. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] how big?
I have about 20,000 in my file. I’m getting worried about that too. I just can’t seem to stop adding people. Help me……. From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell [mailto:jccord...@att.net] Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's the norm? Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
THANK YOU!! Perfect! Now if you could do Footnote . . . K At 05:33 PM 10/17/2010 +0100, you wrote: >Try: > >https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search#searchType=records&collectionId=&advanced=false&fed=true&page=1&givenName=[FirstName]&surname=[SurName]&birthYear=[StartYear]&birthLocation=&deathYear=[EndYear]&deathLocation=&filtered=false > >Don't forget to change the second box to read: [ ]=[+] > >Ron Ferguson >http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Helen, I know that Mark started writing the book before Legacy7 was published, and although I have not read it myself, my understanding is that it does cover all the basics. Perhaps he could comment himself? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:09 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > >> Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there >> is >> a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy >> at >> http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 > > I checked it out, Ron. Here's what it says in part.. > > > "The Legacy Family - PDF version > > Whether you are just starting out or a seasoned professional, The Legacy > Family, written by Legacy user Mark Lang, shows you all the new features > found in Legacy 7.." > > > Problem with this is that I don't just want to learn about the features > that are new in Legacy 7, I want to learn about ALL the features, since > Legacy 1.0. I never anywhere near mastered legacy 6 just for starters. > > Helen > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Helen, With respect, my point was regarding the users who recommend, or insist, or assume that everyone should/does use the 4 field format stating it to be the standard. It might be in America, but not the rest of the world. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:17 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > > No the problem is with users, who >> insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, > Seems to me the users are the ones who keep Legacy in business. > > >> and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that >> all the world uses it. > No problem for me, I have no way of finding out geo-locations for most > of my data so have never looked at that feature. > > Helen > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form
Try: https://beta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search#searchType=records&collectionId=&advanced=false&fed=true&page=1&givenName=[FirstName]&surname=[SurName]&birthYear=[StartYear]&birthLocation=&deathYear=[EndYear]&deathLocation=&filtered=false Don't forget to change the second box to read: [ ]=[+] Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "JT" Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:28 PM To: Subject: [LegacyUG] search the Internet form > I have been trying to enter familysearchBeta' s URL into the advanced > search > form on the Internet from these search the Internet form in Legacy. For > some reason I can't get the customize searches to do what I want it to. > Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone show me the string of > data > that would go into the customize searches part of the form to get it to > automatically enter the first name, last name,, birthdate, death date, > birth > year, and death year data into the advanced search section of > familysearchBeta on the web. > > I hope I didn't make this too confusing. > > Thanks > JT > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
> No the problem is with users, who > insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, Seems to me the users are the ones who keep Legacy in business. > and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all > the world uses it. No problem for me, I have no way of finding out geo-locations for most of my data so have never looked at that feature. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
> Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there is > a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy at > http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 I checked it out, Ron. Here's what it says in part.. "The Legacy Family - PDF version Whether you are just starting out or a seasoned professional, The Legacy Family, written by Legacy user Mark Lang, shows you all the new features found in Legacy 7.." Problem with this is that I don't just want to learn about the features that are new in Legacy 7, I want to learn about ALL the features, since Legacy 1.0. I never anywhere near mastered legacy 6 just for starters. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Helen, No thank you! Legacy is already translated into different languages, although by no means all, but they do include the UK and Australia. The problems with locations in Legacy are actually nothing to do with the way in which the Location field works, it is fine with all English address formats when set to read from right to left. No the problem is with users, who insist on using and advocating the 4 field format, and, if you like, the Geo-location databases, which wrongly assume that all the world uses it. Legacy produces an excellent manual on the use of the program, and there is a book "The Legacy Family" written by Mike Lang and available from Legacy at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 3:38 PM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology > Connie, Two ideas for generating more $$ for Legacy. > > How about a Legacy UK, or Legacy Canada, or Legacy Australia & New > Zealand (if the two can be lumped together), Legacy Latin America > flavour? There could be differences in the methods of entering addresses > and in the way of entering sources/citations, whatever. > > Legacy is far from alone in its American attitude toward writing > software. In fact it's typical of most (PC) software today. But if it > went "international", it would certainly set a great precedent and bring > kudos to Legacy. > > Second idea is a hard cover manual. We don't have a television and > videos, even if I could hear and watch them, aren't my learning style. > Even a Legacy for Dummies would be a good start and I'd certainly buy > one. Or "Best of LUG Archives" hard cover, grouped by general subject? > I'd buy that one too. > > Helen > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Just a thought. Many of us have ancestors that originated from many different countries i.e., England, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, France, etc. Instead of different Legacy programs specific to a particular country i.e., Legacy UK, Legacy Canada etc. Why not include these options in Legacy Preferences where users can choose the format that they wish to use, that would correctly display Locations, and other data fields specific to a particular country? I don't know if this is feasible, just a thought. Charles -Original Message- From: ci...@treadles.ca [mailto:ci...@treadles.ca] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology Connie, Two ideas for generating more $$ for Legacy. How about a Legacy UK, or Legacy Canada, or Legacy Australia & New Zealand (if the two can be lumped together), Legacy Latin America flavour? There could be differences in the methods of entering addresses and in the way of entering sources/citations, whatever. Legacy is far from alone in its American attitude toward writing software. In fact it's typical of most (PC) software today. But if it went "international", it would certainly set a great precedent and bring kudos to Legacy. Second idea is a hard cover manual. We don't have a television and videos, even if I could hear and watch them, aren't my learning style. Even a Legacy for Dummies would be a good start and I'd certainly buy one. Or "Best of LUG Archives" hard cover, grouped by general subject? I'd buy that one too. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Connie, Two ideas for generating more $$ for Legacy. How about a Legacy UK, or Legacy Canada, or Legacy Australia & New Zealand (if the two can be lumped together), Legacy Latin America flavour? There could be differences in the methods of entering addresses and in the way of entering sources/citations, whatever. Legacy is far from alone in its American attitude toward writing software. In fact it's typical of most (PC) software today. But if it went "international", it would certainly set a great precedent and bring kudos to Legacy. Second idea is a hard cover manual. We don't have a television and videos, even if I could hear and watch them, aren't my learning style. Even a Legacy for Dummies would be a good start and I'd certainly buy one. Or "Best of LUG Archives" hard cover, grouped by general subject? I'd buy that one too. Helen Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
Actually, Mike, over here the psychologists use the APA reference style, not the Chicago Manual of Style. There are so many style guides, it makes the head spin. But my point was that Legacy staff did not make up most of the terminology. The British Medical Association has a webpage that discusses citations, citing electronic resources, etc. And Monash University in Australia has a web page "Citing and referencing: How to acknowledge your sources," although the style guides they list seem to be American. Now that I will admit to: Americans deciding there need to be standards/rules for how to cite sources, and then writing a dozen or more guides insisting the style in each book is the proper one. :-) Connie Mike Fry wrote: > On 2010/10/17 05:15, Connie Sheets > wrote: > > "Cite Your Sources: A Manual for Documenting > Family Histories > > and Genealogical Records " by Richard Lackey was > published in 1986, > > so this is not Legacy terminology, nor particularly > recent > > terminology. > > American author. American publisher. > > > It is also not terminology specific to > genealogy. Psychologists, > > historians, librarians, etc. all have formats and > guidelines for > > citing sources. > > It uses the Chicago Manual of Style - a US-defined set of > standards. > > I see a pattern developing here :-) > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification
On 17/10/2010 12:20, Mike Fry wrote: > Surely, "where it came from" is a Repository. The same source can be be > found in one or more repositories. The UK Census images can be found > on-line both at Ancestry and at Find My Past. An important distinction > when using transcripts. If I said "Jane Doe was born in Birkenhead" and you say "where did that information come from" I might say "my Source was her Birth Certificate" of "that information came from her Birth Certificate." The Repository is, I would say, where the "document" containing the information came from. It might not actually be a "document" in the strictest sense. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] search the Internet form
I have been trying to enter familysearchBeta' s URL into the advanced search form on the Internet from these search the Internet form in Legacy. For some reason I can't get the customize searches to do what I want it to. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone show me the string of data that would go into the customize searches part of the form to get it to automatically enter the first name, last name,, birthdate, death date, birth year, and death year data into the advanced search section of familysearchBeta on the web. I hope I didn't make this too confusing. Thanks JT Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
Ron, using search and replace is workable. I'm not sure I'd call it a solution, simply because it is clunky and cumbersome to use with respect to the whole source model in Legacy. I think with a new, modern user interface, the Legacy developers could provide a much more easy-to-use way for us to accomplish a variety of sourcing tasks. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Jean, > > You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate > citation to make a global correction. > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
By highlighting I meant for you to just click on each of the 25 incorrect sources so that you can remove them (one at a time) and replace each one with the correct source that you have edited and saved to your clipboard. Leo > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 07:37:51 -0500 > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? > From: jean.supl...@gmail.com > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > > Leo, I'm so used to doing things one way, that I'm having a tough time > visualizing what you mean. What would be the steps for "highlighting > each of the 25 incorrect sources"? > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM, leo macdonald > wrote: > > You could also copy one of those 25 to your clipboard, edit the > clipboard, then just highlight each of the 25 incorrect sources, click > remove, than add the revised clipboard. > > Leo > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
Leo, I'm so used to doing things one way, that I'm having a tough time visualizing what you mean. What would be the steps for "highlighting each of the 25 incorrect sources"? On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM, leo macdonald wrote: > > You could also copy one of those 25 to your clipboard, edit the clipboard, > then just highlight each of the 25 incorrect sources, click remove, than add > the revised clipboard. > > Leo > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] how big?
Thanks everyone. That's what I thought. Now to undo the mess I got into! What would be the most effecient way to join the information from the different files. Thankully, because I caught this very early in the process, there is still only 2-4 generations per file (but alot of names). - Original Message - From: Robert Runion To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] how big? I suggest one file also. Years ago, I tried to split the file into major surnames, but discovered that the changes in spelling of a surname over the years really complicated having more than one file. Keep plenty of backup files. Bob On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:00 AM, BMcL Robinson wrote: Hi Jonathon and Charity I suggest only one file. You can get very messy trying to split data on the points where the groups join (eg between yourself and spouse - how do you do the children etc?), and given that intermarriage can become more common once you go back say 8 generations there could be other overlapping points. I use one file, although not large by some standards (about 6,000). Cheers, Brett BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy terminology
On 2010/10/17 05:15, Connie Sheets wrote: > "Cite Your Sources: A Manual for Documenting and Family Histories > and Genealogical Records " by Richard Lackey was published in 1986, > so this is not Legacy terminology, nor particularly recent > terminology. American author. American publisher. > It is also not terminology specific to genealogy. Psychologists, > historians, librarians, etc. all have formats and guidelines for > citing sources. It uses the Chicago Manual of Style - a US-defined set of standards. I see a pattern developing here :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification
On 2010/10/17 12:10, Jenny M Benson wrote: > It's really very straightforward - honest! ?!?!?!?!?!?!? It can be very confusing at first, for sure :-) > "Source" is easy 0 it's the "source of" information or "where it came > from". A Master Source is a generalised description of a type of Source > and can be applied to many instances. Source Detail is the nitty gritty > which is specific to only one or only a few people. For example, many > people have a GRO Birth Certificate but one particular Certificate will > only concern one person and perhaps their immediate relatives. Surely, "where it came from" is a Repository. The same source can be be found in one or more repositories. The UK Census images can be found on-line both at Ancestry and at Find My Past. An important distinction when using transcripts. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
Bob, Firstly may I say that I do not understand what you are trying to do to, or at least why you are trying to do it. A fileID is something which is individual to a specific file. In the case of the Detail FileID it is used by most to reference the paper copies of the files to which the Source Detail refer. Personally I don't keep many paper files, so I don't use it. You say that, "For example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to convert this to a Master Source numbered . " what does this mean - that you wish co convert detail source into Master Sources. If so the answer is that it cannot be done automatically as you are trying to convert apples into pears. What Search and Replace means is replacing alpha numeric data with new or alpha numeric data (or for some ASCI characters). Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -- From: "Robert Runion" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:22 AM To: Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? > Ron - your suggestion intrigues me. I am in the throes of trying to > change a lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data. For > example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to > convert this to a Master Source numbered . Is there a way to use the > 'searcdh>search and replace' feature you indicate? The options noted there > do not seem to be the ones I need. > > Bob > > > On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > >> Jean, >> >> You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate >> citation to make a global correction. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> From: Jean Suplick >> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:42 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? >> >> >> This has greatly influenced my approach on how to record infomation also. >> If >> you copy/paste a clipboard source to 5 events for each of 5 individuals, >> you >> have 25 records in the database now. Fixing a typo or adding some >> additional >> information becomes a huge task. You have to go to each event for each >> individual and change the source detail. >> >> The best way to reduce this extra work, of course, is to get the source >> right the first time, and that requires discipline. However, for those >> who >> are evolving their sourcing skills or who are new to Legacy, revisiting >> sources and making updates is a way of life. I wish there was an easier >> way >> to make updates of this nature. I wish the Legacy developers could come >> up >> with a way to make this easier. >> >> Jean Suplick >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dick Nixon wrote: >> >> I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to >> use the source detail and clipboards. >> >> It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT, >> once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data >> base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a >> typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one >> place to see where they were used. This has greatly influenced how I >> record the census and other info., and how I approach >> splitting/lumping. Eg., I put the census info. in an event. >> >> Dick >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? Clarification
On 17/10/2010 03:10, E. Wolfe wrote: > How many places are called 'Source? 'Detail'? 'Text/Comment'? Citation? > Where are they all located and what does each one do? Which ones do I > use if I want to enter 'identical' source and data for multiple people? > Which ones do I use if I want to use the same source but different data > for multiple people? How does a 'citation' differ from a 'source'? Is > there a chart or something that lists them and explains all these > differences? Believe me, I have tried reading the Help section and it is > way too confusing when trying to figure out what I should use where. (I > sure wish the makers of Legacy had used a completely different name for > every one) It's really very straightforward - honest! "Source" is easy 0 it's the "source of" information or "where it came from". A Master Source is a generalised description of a type of Source and can be applied to many instances. Source Detail is the nitty gritty which is specific to only one or only a few people. For example, many people have a GRO Birth Certificate but one particular Certificate will only concern one person and perhaps their immediate relatives. Within both Master and Detail Sources you have the opportunity to add Text and/or Comments if you wish. Text is where you quote actual wording from the Source. Comments is where you enter additional information for clarification. For example, for the 1851 England Census Master Source Text you might want to enter "Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England." And Master Source Comments you might write "The Census reflects the households as at the night of 30 March 1851." Then for Source Detail Text you might copy the household information from the Census sheet and in Source Detail Comments you might write "I don't know why John Smith was not with his family." A Citation is the statement that results from the data you have entered in the Master Source and Source Detail fields. A full Citation (with Source Detail Text) from my Birth Certificate example above might read "England and Wales, birth certificate for Rosa Lavender, born 09 July 1857; citing 2a/517/309, September quarter 1857, Blean registration district, Sturry sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; parents Thomas Lavender & Mary Ann Lavender formerly Pitt." In addition, you will see references to a Subsequent Citation. When a particular Citation is to appear more than once in a Report the full Citation will appear the first time, but after that an abbreviated version will be used. The Subsequent Citation for my example above reads "England and Wales, birth certificate, Rosa Lavender, 09 July 1857, citing 2a/517/309, September quarter 1857, Blean registration district, Sturry sub-district." I hope that clarifies things for you. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard?
Ron - your suggestion intrigues me. I am in the throes of trying to change a lot of my 'detail' data' to make it 'master source' data. For example, I have say 50 person with a FileID of 1234-01 and would like to convert this to a Master Source numbered . Is there a way to use the 'searcdh>search and replace' feature you indicate? The options noted there do not seem to be the ones I need. Bob On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Jean, > > You can go to Search>Search and Replace and then use the appropriate > citation to make a global correction. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > > From: Jean Suplick > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 7:42 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Clipboard? > > > This has greatly influenced my approach on how to record infomation also. If > you copy/paste a clipboard source to 5 events for each of 5 individuals, you > have 25 records in the database now. Fixing a typo or adding some additional > information becomes a huge task. You have to go to each event for each > individual and change the source detail. > > The best way to reduce this extra work, of course, is to get the source > right the first time, and that requires discipline. However, for those who > are evolving their sourcing skills or who are new to Legacy, revisiting > sources and making updates is a way of life. I wish there was an easier way > to make updates of this nature. I wish the Legacy developers could come up > with a way to make this easier. > > Jean Suplick > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dick Nixon wrote: > > I'm coming in late on this thread, but we've all struggled with how to > use the source detail and clipboards. > > It is easy to copy the MSource and Detail to multiple people, BUT, > once you do, the details all become separate "items" in the data > base...there is no way to edit them all at once if you make even a > typo. A lot of work hunting down the individual details and no one > place to see where they were used. This has greatly influenced how I > record the census and other info., and how I approach > splitting/lumping. Eg., I put the census info. in an event. > > Dick > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] how big?
I suggest one file also. Years ago, I tried to split the file into major surnames, but discovered that the changes in spelling of a surname over the years really complicated having more than one file. Keep plenty of backup files. Bob On Oct 17, 2010, at 2:00 AM, BMcL Robinson wrote: > Hi Jonathon and Charity > > I suggest only one file. You can get very messy trying to split data on the > points where the groups join (eg between yourself and spouse - how do you do > the children etc?), and given that intermarriage can become more common once > you go back say 8 generations there could be other overlapping points. I use > one file, although not large by some standards (about 6,000). > > Cheers, Brett > BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand > - Original Message - > From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:30 PM > Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally > started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping > all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy > file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but > I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep > several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to > name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's > the norm? Thanks. > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] how big?
Hi Jonathon and Charity I suggest only one file. You can get very messy trying to split data on the points where the groups join (eg between yourself and spouse - how do you do the children etc?), and given that intermarriage can become more common once you go back say 8 generations there could be other overlapping points. I use one file, although not large by some standards (about 6,000). Cheers, Brett BMcL Robinson, Hamilton 3240, New Zealand - Original Message - From: Jonathan & Charity Cordell To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] how big? Hi everyone, I'm new to this and needed some rookie advice. I originally started lumping all the family lines into one Legacy file and just skipping all around the place. Then I ended up splitting them up and naming the Legacy file based on the line (i.e. cordell.fdb). I did it to make things easier but I this might be a mistake. How does average Legacy user do it? Do they keep several lines in one file? My last name is Cordell so it was also weird to name the file cordell.fdb when I'm going to be going beyond Cordell. What's the norm? Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
