[LegacyUG] Families 1.2.0 for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad
Families 1.2.0 for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad is now available from the App Store. This includes the following changes: - Fix bug in display following detail source deletion - Fix bug in unlinking from parents where there is more than one set of parents - Support bookmarks - Support text attributes (bold etc) in Master and Detail Source View text and comments fields - Support AKA sources - Enhance picture caption display - Extend range of supported date formats - Support long press on Family View for selecting alternative spouse and parents - Support long press on Pedigree View for selecting alternative spouse - Add sibling selection to Pedigree View - Display photos for all individuals in Family View on iPad Malcolm Green Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships surety level
Hi Kirsten I have just tested a Gedcom basic format and the comments I made in the source citation were included in the export. Did you ensure that this item was ticked for attachment to the citation or ticked to include at the prompt during the export? Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand On 27/06/2011 5:04 p.m., Kirsten Bowman wrote: Brett: I found to my dismay that comments in the Source Detail don't transfer with a GEDCOM--which I use for posting online. I don't know if that's important to you, or if it's been changed with a recent update (I was on an earlier 7.xx version then and haven't re-tested lately), but thought I'd mention it. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Brett McL Robinson [mailto:b...@vodafone.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: Luis Salreta Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships surety level Hi Luis I use the Comments about this Citation (in the Source Detail) to explain why things may not be as they seem - usually relating to the reliability or accuracy of the citation. The Comment is specific to the detail of the citation, so you can comment about the source being used in support of one fact differently to the way you might when used with a different fact - eg the source may be reliable for the name but not the date. I also use the numbers for the surety level as a rough indication. Cheers, Brett B McL Robinson, Hamilton, New Zealand Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships surety level
Thank you all for the various solutions proposed. I still believe that this needs a real program solution. All the solutions are, as we say in Portugal, "desenrascanços" (see in google) or "MacGyverism" (we use what we have at hand to resolve the problem) Thanks L.Salreta Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages after Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspFollow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter
Thanks Janet! Regards, Kay Williams on the beautiful NSW Central Coast -Original Message- From: Janet Stoneking [mailto:janet.stonek...@wowway.com] Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 02:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Hi Kay, I found the current edition, Evidence Explained:Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace 2nd Edition, by Elizabeth Shown Mills, today at Amazon.com. This price at the link below is a little less, at the moment, than the published price on the copy that I borrowed from our library. http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Explained-History-Artifacts-Cyberspace/dp/0806318066/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1309149336sr=8-1 Regards, Janet Stoneking Westerville, Ohio, US - Original Message - From: Kay Williams kay...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Can you advise publishing details of the book 'Evidence Explained' please Robert? Regards, Kay Williams on the beautiful NSW Central Coast -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 04:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Do you have copy of Elizabeth Shown Mills's Evidence Explained? SourceWriter is largely based on that book. As helpful as SourceWriter is to me, I find myself reading the book for a better understanding. SourceWriter is a template driven sourcing system that makes it easy for you to select the correct input screen so that you enter all the pieces needed to correctly cite any source of information in the thousands of formats that exist for them. The information you enter is correctly and precisely formatted to match the genealogy industry standards for source citations. SourceWriter allows the user to simply enter complete details about a source, without having to resort to the book to get the proper format. If you wish, you can stop using SourceWriter. I am assuming you have just one or two sources you made using Sourcewriter, just a few anyway? If you no longer wanted them, what I would do is write them down. And delete them. Then re-enter them using the simple sourcing system. Professional biographers and genealogist will note much more information in their sources than most people who want to use just the simple source system ever will. I changed all my sources over to SourceWriter, and it was a long task. I am glad I did. But I referred to Evidence Explained quite a bit. Thank you. Robert On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Joan Kemp jk...@yahoo.com wrote: Help! I selected Sourcewriter for citations and it is not what I want! Trying to enter simple details about a will, it asks irrelevant questions such as whether the document is bound or loose, is it state level (what!)? I have many wills, mainly photocopies from local record offices (who don't state what format a will is in...). Some are PCC, some at a different level of ecclesiastical jurisdiction. Sourcewriter just isn't applicable here. How do I escape and get back to a simpler, more appropriate way of entering sources? (Up to now, they've just been included in my notes, but I thought I would try and systematise them more). Many thanks Joan Kemp (using Legacy 7.5 de luxe) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships surety level
I missed the original post because it was not plain text. But this topic interests me as an analyst/programmer so I thought I would add my $0.02... *** The OP makes a good point. If you look at the GENTECH Genealogical Data Model (GDM)... http://members.ngsgenealogy.org/GENTECH_Data_Model/Diagram_GENTECH_Data_Model_1.0.pdf ...the confidence/surety goes with the assertion, not the citation. Think about it. A citation (the link between an assertion and a source) is a statement like... Assertion A came from Source B Does it make sense to assign a surety level to that statement? Are you questioning the fact that assertion A came from source B? No. What you are questioning is the assertion itself. Therefore the surety/confidence belongs with said assertion. Luis' example is a little complicated because it actually consists of 3 assertions... A1: Jake is the son of John Salreta and Maryann (list sources) A2: Jake is the son of John Salreta and Marylu (other sources) A3: These Jakes are the same person (source is Luis - this is his conclusion - notice the GDM provides a field for Rationale) A1 and A2 may have very high surety levels. A3 may be somewhat lower as Luis is not 100% positive of his conclusion. Interesting stuff! -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Luis Salreta luisalr...@clix.pt wrote: Hi I am Legacy user, since version 4 (standard) and version 5 (deluxe edition) and belong to the team that is translating Legacy to European Portuguese. Of course I like the program, but there is one thing that is missing and I would like to know what you do in similar situations. If we have all the information about a family, it is easy to establish the relationships with a great certainty, through marriage, birth and death certificates (in the Portuguese church records, we can also get many times the grandparents). But sometimes records are missing or the persons went to another place that we dont know, and we have only one or two records referencing them and the relationship is more uncertain. For instance I have a Jake son of John Salreta and Maryann. Later on I have the marriage of Jake (son of John Salreta and Marylu). I believe in the documents and the information within but are those 2 Jakes the same? If I could I would put only 3 (max of 5) in the relationship (to the parents) surety level. (sorry for the poor names :-). So, what Im lacking is a surety level for the relationships, and maybe one comment field where I could describe the reasons for my doubts. Im not referring to the documents surety level, because that refers to the confidence I have in that document and the information within (or that's the way i'm using it). Ive already search the forum for this type of problem and the best I found was in the thread How to represent a Best Fit Ancestor and don't like the solutions proposed. I think they are klunges. What Im asking is, if there is the need, how do you address this problem. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How can this happen?
Because I was about to spend about a week away from home and wanted to work on my family file while away - I keep a copy of Legacy on the computer I use when here - I used Dropbox to pass Legacy from home to here. I copied the entire Legacy folder into Dropbox (in one pass, not folder by folder) and having updated Legacy here to the latest version, I copied the Legacy folder from Dropbox over it. I was somewhat surprised - to put it mildly! - when I tried to open my family file and it wasn't there! I went back to the Dropbox folder containing the Legacy folder and sure enough, nearly all the files relating to my current family file were absent! The folder actually *should* contain the files relating to 5 different savings of my family file, as I have saved it and started with a renamed copy every few months. 3 of the 5 databases are complete, but of the most recent 2 (dated 18 Jan and 07 May this year) only the .NC and .TC files are there. As I was working on the 07 May file on Saturday night, closed it down normally and copied the Legacy folder on Sunday morning there is no reason to suppose the full version is happily residing on my home computer, but I won't half be relieved when I go home and satisfy myself that it is! I'm totally baffled, though, how files could just vanish like that. Although when I upgraded from an old computer to a new one a few weeks ago, I also found that several files, sometimes whole sub-folders had somehow failed to copy across. The moral of that story is *hang on to your old computer until you are QUITE sure you have retrieved everything*! Luckily, I have! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Evidence Explained citations was: Sourcewriter
For anyone who's interested, Genealogical Publishing Co. also sells a laminated _QuickSheet: Citing Online Historical Resources Evidence! Style_. First Revised Edition $7.95 Website is www.genealogical.com. I have no financial interest, am a satisfied customer. Dolly in Maryland On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Janet Stoneking janet.stonek...@wowway.com wrote: Hi Kay, I found the current edition, Evidence Explained:Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace 2nd Edition, by Elizabeth Shown Mills, today at Amazon.com. This price at the link below is a little less, at the moment, than the published price on the copy that I borrowed from our library. http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Explained-History-Artifacts-Cyberspace/dp/0806318066/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1309149336sr=8-1 Regards, Janet Stoneking Westerville, Ohio, US - Original Message - From: Kay Williams kay...@bigpond.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Can you advise publishing details of the book 'Evidence Explained' please Robert? Regards, Kay Williams on the beautiful NSW Central Coast -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 04:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Do you have copy of Elizabeth Shown Mills's Evidence Explained? SourceWriter is largely based on that book. As helpful as SourceWriter is to me, I find myself reading the book for a better understanding. SourceWriter is a template driven sourcing system that makes it easy for you to select the correct input screen so that you enter all the pieces needed to correctly cite any source of information in the thousands of formats that exist for them. The information you enter is correctly and precisely formatted to match the genealogy industry standards for source citations. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence Explained citations was: Sourcewriter
Legacy also sells this in the online store for $5.95, as well as the book for $49.95 and PDF file for $19.95 (The PDF listing is with the book listing) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com wrote: For anyone who's interested, Genealogical Publishing Co. also sells a laminated _QuickSheet: Citing Online Historical Resources Evidence! Style_. First Revised Edition $7.95 Website is www.genealogical.com. I have no financial interest, am a satisfied customer. Dolly in Maryland Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How can this happen?
Jenny, Thank you for this information. I recently switched to a new computer so this is really helpful to me. Fortunately, I still have my old computer, and all of its files. Charles -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:32 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How can this happen? Because I was about to spend about a week away from home and wanted to work on my family file while away - I keep a copy of Legacy on the computer I use when here - I used Dropbox to pass Legacy from home to here. I copied the entire Legacy folder into Dropbox (in one pass, not folder by folder) and having updated Legacy here to the latest version, I copied the Legacy folder from Dropbox over it. I was somewhat surprised - to put it mildly! - when I tried to open my family file and it wasn't there! I went back to the Dropbox folder containing the Legacy folder and sure enough, nearly all the files relating to my current family file were absent! The folder actually *should* contain the files relating to 5 different savings of my family file, as I have saved it and started with a renamed copy every few months. 3 of the 5 databases are complete, but of the most recent 2 (dated 18 Jan and 07 May this year) only the .NC and .TC files are there. As I was working on the 07 May file on Saturday night, closed it down normally and copied the Legacy folder on Sunday morning there is no reason to suppose the full version is happily residing on my home computer, but I won't half be relieved when I go home and satisfy myself that it is! I'm totally baffled, though, how files could just vanish like that. Although when I upgraded from an old computer to a new one a few weeks ago, I also found that several files, sometimes whole sub-folders had somehow failed to copy across. The moral of that story is *hang on to your old computer until you are QUITE sure you have retrieved everything*! Luckily, I have! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Relationships surety level
OK let’s see if I can make myself clear Let's use a very simple military example: I have several source of intelligence that gives me some information. I collect the information about related subjects and build one conclusion. This conclusion is weighted based on the credibility of the sources and of the information. So I have 3 weights/probabilities - confidence in the source, confidence in the information given by the source and confidence in the conclusion I made. Assuming that the first two are mixed in the present source surety level what I need/want is a surety level for my conclusion (a measure for my “educated” guess!). And the conclusion is basically the definition of a relationship between 2 persons. Of course each user gives a different subjective value to the levels 1 to 5 (and it differs with time) but still and don't need to worry with levels 4 or 5 and levels 3 or less must be researched. And I agree that is always necessary an explanation of the “educated” guess. I don’t know in other countries what sources of information they have but in Portugal, except for the “blue blood” families, the main (and almost only) source are the Church records, so I can’t wait to obtain more information from other sources, to put people in the family tree. L.Salreta -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Index Tab
There are two things I have noticed when working in the Index Tab that I think have changed with the latest update. 1) If my curser is in the RIN field I cannot tab over to the Given field. I can tab from Given to Surname and from Surname to RIN but that's it. 2) After creating a new individual, they do not appear in the Index list until I have closed and reopened Legacy. I am reasonably certain in the past they appeared in the Index as soon as they were created. Would someone let know if these things used to work that way. Thanks, Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Tab
1. To be honest, I have a hard time of keeping track of the cursor when tabbing (vision problems), so I can't comment on this issue. 2. This is a known issue that's been around for some time now - nothing new - if you have Show Alternate Names and/or Show Married Names selected. It's on the list of things for the programmers to take care of. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Rita Lynn McKale cagr...@comporium.net wrote: There are two things I have noticed when working in the Index Tab that I think have changed with the latest update. 1) If my curser is in the RIN field I cannot tab over to the Given field. I can tab from Given to Surname and from Surname to RIN but that's it. 2) After creating a new individual, they do not appear in the Index list until I have closed and reopened Legacy. I am reasonably certain in the past they appeared in the Index as soon as they were created. Would someone let know if these things used to work that way. Thanks, Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Evidence Explained citations was: Sourcewriter
Legacy Store, Quick Sheet $5.95, it is a must have http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5 Another must have. Magnifiers http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=21 Tim On 6/27/2011 9:59 AM, Dee Ziegler wrote: For anyone who's interested, Genealogical Publishing Co. also sells a laminated _QuickSheet: Citing Online Historical Resources Evidence! Style_. First Revised Edition $7.95 Website is www.genealogical.com. I have no financial interest, am a satisfied customer. Dolly in Maryland On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Janet Stoneking janet.stonek...@wowway.com wrote: Hi Kay, I found the current edition, Evidence Explained:Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace 2nd Edition, by Elizabeth Shown Mills, today at Amazon.com. This price at the link below is a little less, at the moment, than the published price on the copy that I borrowed from our library. http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Explained-History-Artifacts-Cyberspace/dp/0806318066/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1309149336sr=8-1 Regards, Janet Stoneking Westerville, Ohio, US - Original Message - From: Kay Williamskay...@bigpond.com To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:13 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Can you advise publishing details of the book 'Evidence Explained' please Robert? Regards, Kay Williams on the beautiful NSW Central Coast -Original Message- From: Robert E. Carneal [mailto:kentuckygenealog...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 04:49 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Do you have copy of Elizabeth Shown Mills's Evidence Explained? SourceWriter is largely based on that book. As helpful as SourceWriter is to me, I find myself reading the book for a better understanding. SourceWriter is a template driven sourcing system that makes it easy for you to select the correct input screen so that you enter all the pieces needed to correctly cite any source of information in the thousands of formats that exist for them. The information you enter is correctly and precisely formatted to match the genealogy industry standards for source citations.snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Index Tab
On 6/27/2011 1:32 PM, Rita Lynn McKale wrote: There are two things I have noticed when working in the Index Tab that I think have changed with the latest update. 1) If my curser is in the RIN field I cannot tab over to the Given field. I can tab from Given to Surname and from Surname to RIN but that's it. 2) After creating a new individual, they do not appear in the Index list until I have closed and reopened Legacy. I am reasonably certain in the past they appeared in the Index as soon as they were created. Would someone let know if these things used to work that way. Thanks, Rita in South Carolina There are about 8 tab stops on that view. If you are in RIN it will cycle through Options, Individual tag 1 Back Arrow, Individual tag 1 forward Arrow, Marriage tag 1 Back Arrow, Marriage tag 1 forward Arrow, Rin, Given and Surname. If you hit Shift + TAB it will go right to Surname. -- Gene Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How can this happen?
Hi Jenny, Did you observe the complete folders on the second computer at all? Did you wait long enough for (a) everything to upload to Dropbox before you shut the original computer down, and then (b) everything to download to the other computer before you took it offline? It takes time, it's not instant. If sufficient time wasn't given for everything to be uploaded before the original computer was shut down, then it will continue the upload when the computer is next online. And they will still be there on that computer, safe and sound. I prefer to direct my backup files to Dropbox, so I can restore the latest version to another computer should the need arise (which I did at the weekend, as it happens), not the actual data file itself. Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Archived Messages
Hi Howland, I have noticed that all the responces to your post addressed the problems with the archives although I think that you also wanted to learn more about the renaming of Pictures/Files attached to sources. The only way that I have found to change the name of a Photo or File and have it correctly attached to all places including sources is to make the change in picture centre. If you were to go directly to the file folder where the photo/File is located and make the name change, then go to the person or event where the original photo/file was attached the origional photo/file will be missing, you can now use the legacy locator screen to locate the new name yourself which you can then attach to the person or event, this seems to work but, if you have the same photo/file attached to a source you will find out later that the photo/file is still missing from the source. You will then have to locate each place where you used that source and reattach the photo/file, one at a time. I hope this is not too confusing. Leo To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Archived Messages From: howlanddavi...@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:18:02 -0400 While taking a very successful genealogical trip, I missed some of the responses to the topic Renaming Pictures/Files Attached To Sources. When I went to the archives (post Nov 21 2009) and put Renaming Pictures/Files into the search box, I was told that there were no messages with those words. Did I do something wrong? Howland Davis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How can this happen?
I will keep this short ! I am not a DropBox user. I keep my backups here on my computer, just waiting for a hard drive failure. I use the Amazon Cloud. Look it up. I Backup to it ! probably two times a week. Tim On 6/27/2011 9:31 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: Because I was about to spend about a week away from home and wanted to work on my family file while away - I keep a copy of Legacy on the computer I use when here - I used Dropbox to pass Legacy from home to here. I copied the entire Legacy folder into Dropbox (in one pass, not folder by folder) and having updated Legacy here to the latest version, I copied the Legacy folder from Dropbox over it. I was somewhat surprised - to put it mildly! - when I tried to open my family file and it wasn't there! I went back to the Dropbox folder containing the Legacy folder and sure enough, nearly all the files relating to my current family file were absent! The folder actually *should* contain the files relating to 5 different savings of my family file, as I have saved it and started with a renamed copy every few months. 3 of the 5 databases are complete, but of the most recent 2 (dated 18 Jan and 07 May this year) only the .NC and .TC files are there. As I was working on the 07 May file on Saturday night, closed it down normally and copied the Legacy folder on Sunday morning there is no reason to suppose the full version is happily residing on my home computer, but I won't half be relieved when I go home and satisfy myself that it is! I'm totally baffled, though, how files could just vanish like that. Although when I upgraded from an old computer to a new one a few weeks ago, I also found that several files, sometimes whole sub-folders had somehow failed to copy across. The moral of that story is *hang on to your old computer until you are QUITE sure you have retrieved everything*! Luckily, I have! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How can this happen?
what do you back up, Tim? Just your Legacy files? Kathy On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote: I will keep this short ! I am not a DropBox user. I keep my backups here on my computer, just waiting for a hard drive failure. I use the Amazon Cloud. Look it up. I Backup to it ! probably two times a week. Tim On 6/27/2011 9:31 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote: Because I was about to spend about a week away from home and wanted to work on my family file while away - I keep a copy of Legacy on the computer I use when here - I used Dropbox to pass Legacy from home to here. I copied the entire Legacy folder into Dropbox (in one pass, not folder by folder) and having updated Legacy here to the latest version, I copied the Legacy folder from Dropbox over it. I was somewhat surprised - to put it mildly! - when I tried to open my family file and it wasn't there! I went back to the Dropbox folder containing the Legacy folder and sure enough, nearly all the files relating to my current family file were absent! The folder actually *should* contain the files relating to 5 different savings of my family file, as I have saved it and started with a renamed copy every few months. 3 of the 5 databases are complete, but of the most recent 2 (dated 18 Jan and 07 May this year) only the .NC and .TC files are there. As I was working on the 07 May file on Saturday night, closed it down normally and copied the Legacy folder on Sunday morning there is no reason to suppose the full version is happily residing on my home computer, but I won't half be relieved when I go home and satisfy myself that it is! I'm totally baffled, though, how files could just vanish like that. Although when I upgraded from an old computer to a new one a few weeks ago, I also found that several files, sometimes whole sub-folders had somehow failed to copy across. The moral of that story is *hang on to your old computer until you are QUITE sure you have retrieved everything*! Luckily, I have! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Kathy Meyer Technology is both blessing and curse, depending on what it's doing for you (or to you) on any particular day. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using Master List Names and the Source Clipboard
I'm using Legacy 7.4. I've been using the Source Writer to enter the marriages of a mother, daughter #1 and daughter #2. I used the template: marriage recordfound in govt recordsmarriage certificatesall countries exceptcreated by state/provincialbasic. I do not know how to access each of the 3 marriages when I want to link one or another to whatever category I want, such as name, marriage, marriage event, parents, witnesses, etc. I called my master source: New York, Manhattan, New York - Civil Marriage Record. When I created the master source for each couple, the master source name fields are completed identically.The variations appear in the following source fields: source master text and master comments, and detail text and comments. It is my understanding that only one master source name should appear for these 3 marriages when I select view, master list, source. (I created 3 and believe I have to combine them.) When combined, by pressing the show list bottom on the right of the screen I will see a list of all individuals associated with the 3 marriages. I've used the source clipboard icons but more often that not, I am retyping the same data over and over again, especially the screen that differentiates the 1908 marriage from the ones in 1929 and 1931. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Margaret DeAcetis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Backup
Sherry, I have updated to build 7.5.0.89 and every time I shut Legacy down, like you, I am prompted for backup or skip. Whatever the problem was, it is now solved, thank you! Colin. --- - Original Message - From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Backup Are you both sure you didn't accidentally click on the box with the checkmark before Prompt for Backups each time you exit Legacy? I made and edit and exited four times and each time I was prompted for backup. I clicked on Skip so didn't make the backup. Are you on build 7.5.0.89? Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Dean Adams dgadam...@gmail.com wrote: I get the same thing. Apparently, Legacy honors your initial decision until you make additional changes. From: Colin Liddell [mailto:cap...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Backup I find that when I have added people in Legacy and I go to shut down, I get the question, do you want to backup or skip, I click on skip! The next two or three times after entering data in Legacy and I shut down, the question box does not come up asking if I want to back up or skip. Is this normal? Colin. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using Master List Names and the Source Clipboard
Margaret: I'm not sure that I'm following your issue correctly, but it sounds like you've created three Master Sources when you should/could have only one. Typically at the Master Source screen you would enter only the information that's common to all three marriages which would probably be only the first three fields under Step 2. Save the Master Source. Then you open the Individual Information screen and the Source Clipboard for any one of your people, select the NY marriage master source that you created, enter the specific information for that marriage (names, date, location, etc.) under the Detail Information and/or the Text/Comments tabs. Check the Preview Pane at the right to be sure it's as you want it and there are no typos, then save and attach it to each field where it applies. You follow the same process for each of the other two marriages, or a shortcut would be to delete the Detail Information and/or Text Comments *from the Source Clipboard*, enter the details for the next marriage and attach it to the appropriate fields for the next couple. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Margaret DeAcetis [mailto:med_11...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 4:38 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Master List Names and the Source Clipboard I'm using Legacy 7.4. I've been using the Source Writer to enter the marriages of a mother, daughter #1 and daughter #2. I used the template: marriage recordfound in govt recordsmarriage certificatesall countries exceptcreated by state/provincialbasic. I do not know how to access each of the 3 marriages when I want to link one or another to whatever category I want, such as name, marriage, marriage event, parents, witnesses, etc. I called my master source: New York, Manhattan, New York - Civil Marriage Record. When I created the master source for each couple, the master source name fields are completed identically.The variations appear in the following source fields: source master text and master comments, and detail text and comments. It is my understanding that only one master source name should appear for these 3 marriages when I select view, master list, source. (I created 3 and believe I have to combine them.) When combined, by pressing the show list bottom on the right of the screen I will see a list of all individuals associated with the 3 marriages. I've used the source clipboard icons but more often that not, I am retyping the same data over and over again, especially the screen that differentiates the 1908 marriage from the ones in 1929 and 1931. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Margaret DeAcetis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
