Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[hwedhlor]

  The next version of the operating system for the
iPad/iPhone devices, iOS 5 (due to be released on 7 October
of 2011) will also provide a "split" keyboard option to
divide the screen-based keyboard into two segments similar
to an ergonomic keyboard, which might make input via the
screen-based keyboard more comfortable.

Prior to purchasing my iPhone and iPad I used GEDStar Pro
for quite some time on a Sony Clie Palm device, and liked it
very much, but when I asked the manufacturer of that program
if he intended to write a version for the iPhone/iPad he
said he intended to retire, so that would not happen.  I
tried FamViewer for a while on the iPhone and iPad, but
switched to the Families app and have never looked back.

Some of the "photographic" apps for the iPad/iPhone devices
use the built-in camera on those devices to capture an image
of documents, but also can do Optical Character Reading
(OCR) processing, and will produce PDF files that are
searchable, and editable.

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ


On 8/13/2011 11:36 AM, Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
> I wouldn't be taking notes longer than a text message on
> the iPhone/iPod. I find the keyboard useful on the iPad -
> honest, when you have one you will understand - but I also
> have a wireless keyboard for my iPad. It's like any other
> keyboard. You could type a will. There are attorneys who
> do only iPads in court where they may draft pleadings on
> the fly. In fact that's how I learned about the keyboard.
> It changed my use of the iPad from a toy to a workhorse.
>
> Coincidentally, today I did a demo of using the iPad to
> access FamilySearch. People were pretty impressed with how
> the keyboard worked when they tried it. I didn't have the
> bluetooth with me but I mentioned it. An 84 year old woman
> wants to buy an iPad! She used the keyboard and thought
> she wouldn't need the bluetooth version.
>
> If you are considering an iPad I strongly suggest waiting
> for the new one due out in 4-6 weeks I think. It is more
> wireless which would be nice. Also, the next iOS, ver. 5,
> will have more interaction with the iCloud which may
> affect how genealogy programs will work on them. We
> discussed here last week using Sugar Sync [or other] to
> hold the Legacy data file so it is always available in the
> latest incarnation.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Connie Sheets
> mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> A "dumb question" here.  I can understand how an "app"
> like Families on an iPad, etc. can help with having
> your data handy on a research trip.  I can also
> understand how you could do some limited data entry.
>  What I don't understand is how one could reasonably
> do anything more than minimal data entry.  How in the
> world does one actually type on these things, i.e.
> write a paragraph or three (say transcribe a lengthy
> will) not just a tweet or text?  (I'm told by a
> 30-something niece that the virtual keyboard on an
> iPad isn't all that practical for real typing).
>
> And do source citations actually transfer back and
> forth seamlessly, without them becoming scrambled if
> they were written with SourceWriter?
>
> Connie
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[William S White]

> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Wilson [mailto:.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:22 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy
>
> I puschased a hand-held a few years back, Palm One, never got the darn
> thing to work. So now it's just a fashion statment sitting next to my
> computer.
> Good luck with hand-held.

For the Palm OS you want My Roots:
http://www.tapperware.com/MyRoots/
I have used for years on my Zire 72...
Until upgrading to a netbook ;-))




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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Beth]

Wanted to thank you all for your help.  Will take this to task and see what I 
come up with.

Thanks,
Beth










-Original Message-
From: Cheryl Rothwell 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy


Legacy can be uploaded to Families. It does its own conversion. GedStar Pro did 
that with TMG and Palm, have no idea how it works with Legacy.


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Beth  wrote:

I joined this list and posted a question had no idea how many of you had 
suggestions for hand held thingys  I was hopping for one answer but see I 
am looking at learning a lot more before buying one.  Can anyone give me a 
simple answer as to which device would work by just downloading my Legacy 
family files into a pad without going through all these other software programs?

Thanks,
Beth
www.Beth-website.net










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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[Tim Rosenlof]

Thank You !

Great string. You must have spent quite a bit of time for over 100.
Default is 21~23. I have spent hours and hours on one and can't get it
right. Some day ..

Tim

On 8/13/2011 12:56 PM, BG Johnson wrote:
> I can't imagine how anyone could think this of topic.  Being able to search 
> the internet directly from Legacy is one of its most powerful tools.  I 
> probably have more than 100 custom searches that I use.  Using the detail 
> search and the advanced tagging features along with customized searches 
> quickly finds your records in various data collections at various web sites 
> with only two or three clicks of the mouse.
>
> Example:
>
> http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=WW1draft&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&gsfn=[GivenNames]&gsln=[SurName]&msbdy=[BirthYear]&dbOnly=_F00031C3|_F00031C3_x&dbOnly=_F000277E|_F000277E_x&uidh=7t6
>
> gets you to the WWI Draft Card collection and generally finds your man.
>
> Bgj
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:25 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave
>
> Viola Mather Hall = 0
> Viola Hall = 147 (Probably as expected. Lots of middle names added though) 
> Viola M Hall = 19 (Viola May Gordon Hall) Hmmm ?
>
> All with the string below.
>
> If this off topic, I give up !
>
> Tim


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RE: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[BG Johnson]

I can't imagine how anyone could think this of topic.  Being able to search the 
internet directly from Legacy is one of its most powerful tools.  I probably 
have more than 100 custom searches that I use.  Using the detail search and the 
advanced tagging features along with customized searches quickly finds your 
records in various data collections at various web sites with only two or three 
clicks of the mouse.

Example:

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=WW1draft&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_r_db&gsfn=[GivenNames]&gsln=[SurName]&msbdy=[BirthYear]&dbOnly=_F00031C3|_F00031C3_x&dbOnly=_F000277E|_F000277E_x&uidh=7t6

gets you to the WWI Draft Card collection and generally finds your man.

Bgj


-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

Viola Mather Hall = 0
Viola Hall = 147 (Probably as expected. Lots of middle names added though) 
Viola M Hall = 19 (Viola May Gordon Hall) Hmmm ?

All with the string below.

If this off topic, I give up !

Tim





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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Cheryl Rothwell]

Legacy can be uploaded to Families. It does its own conversion. GedStar Pro
did that with TMG and Palm, have no idea how it works with Legacy.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Beth  wrote:

> I joined this list and posted a question had no idea how many of you
> had suggestions for hand held thingys  I was hopping for one answer but
> see I am looking at learning a lot more before buying one.  Can anyone give
> me a simple answer as to which device would work by just downloading my
> Legacy family files into a pad without going through all these other
> software programs?
> Thanks,
> Beth
> www.Beth-website.net
>
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I wouldn't be taking notes longer than a text message on the iPhone/iPod. I
find the keyboard useful on the iPad - honest, when you have one you will
understand - but I also have a wireless keyboard for my iPad. It's like any
other keyboard. You could type a will. There are attorneys who do only iPads
in court where they may draft pleadings on the fly. In fact that's how I
learned about the keyboard. It changed my use of the iPad from a toy to a
workhorse.

Coincidentally, today I did a demo of using the iPad to access FamilySearch.
People were pretty impressed with how the keyboard worked when they tried
it. I didn't have the bluetooth with me but I mentioned it. An 84 year old
woman wants to buy an iPad! She used the keyboard and thought she wouldn't
need the bluetooth version.

If you are considering an iPad I strongly suggest waiting for the new one
due out in 4-6 weeks I think. It is more wireless which would be nice. Also,
the next iOS, ver. 5, will have more interaction with the iCloud which may
affect how genealogy programs will work on them. We discussed here last week
using Sugar Sync [or other] to hold the Legacy data file so it is always
available in the latest incarnation.


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Connie Sheets  wrote:

> A "dumb question" here.  I can understand how an "app" like Families on an
> iPad, etc. can help with having your data handy on a research trip.  I can
> also understand how you could do some limited data entry.  What I don't
> understand is how one could reasonably do anything more than minimal data
> entry.  How in the world does one actually type on these things, i.e. write
> a paragraph or three (say transcribe a lengthy will) not just a tweet or
> text?  (I'm told by a 30-something niece that the virtual keyboard on an
> iPad isn't all that practical for real typing).
>
> And do source citations actually transfer back and forth seamlessly,
> without them becoming scrambled if they were written with SourceWriter?
>
> Connie
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Sherry/Support]

You will need to have another applicaton to convert the Legacy files
to the proper format if you're talking about iPhone, iPad, iPod touch
or Android.

Families for iOS or Android or GedStar Android are excellent programs.

Those applications will also convert that format back to your Family
File, but most users have found it to be cumbersome to edit on a
mobile device and convert back to Legacy so they use it only for
viewing.

Legacy will only run on Windows.

If you have a netbook which runs Windows, then you can install Legacy
on the netbook.  If you have a Mac laptop, you'll have to install
Parallels, Fusion, WINE or BootCamp along with a version of Windows
and install Legacy on the Windows side.

if you wish to use an iPad, then you will have to use Families.

A friend of mine has Nook Color, which runs Android, but it wouldn't
run Families for Android. He had to get GedStar for Android.

GedStar Android works marvelously on my Motorola Atrix 4G smartphone.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Beth  wrote:
> I joined this list and posted a question had no idea how many of you had
> suggestions for hand held thingys  I was hopping for one answer but see
> I am looking at learning a lot more before buying one.  Can anyone give me a
> simple answer as to which device would work by just downloading my Legacy
> family files into a pad without going through all these other software
> programs?
> Thanks,
> Beth
> www.Beth-website.net


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Beth]

I joined this list and posted a question had no idea how many of you had 
suggestions for hand held thingys  I was hopping for one answer but see I 
am looking at learning a lot more before buying one.  Can anyone give me a 
simple answer as to which device would work by just downloading my Legacy 
family files into a pad without going through all these other software programs?
Thanks,
Beth
www.Beth-website.net











-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup 
Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2011 9:40 am
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy


Families is available through our online store for iPhone, iPad and
Pod Touch as well as for Android. However, since these programs  have
o be purchased through the iPhone or Android market places, we can
nly link you to those site - we don't actually sell them.
Another program, which I really like is GedStar for Android. I used to
se GedStar on my Palm and the Android version is very much like the
alm version.
Pocket Genealogist is available for Windows Mobile, but from what I
nderstand, there are not any genealogy programs available for WIndows
hone 7 yet.
All of these programs can directly import Legacy files into the
orrect format for iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch and Android.
Sincerely,
herry
echnical Support
egacy Family Tree

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Bob Rowe  wrote:
 It would be great to have Brian or Sherry chime in here. The whole world
 seems to be moving towards handheld devices. I am betting that Millennium
 has some of their developers working on this. My company’s developers have
 been working on this for a couple of years and have the first releases out
 now [not genealogy related].



 How about it Support people? Any news on this?



 Bob Rowe

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RE: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Kirsten Bowman]

Connie:

I use Families on an iPad and agree that it isn't practical for much data entry 
but that's fairly easy to work around.  If I'm browsing the Internet away from 
home and find something of interest I just copy/paste the link and/or text, 
save it on the iPad and input it later.  With books or microfilm records I take 
pictures with a digital camera.  If the data is brief it can be entered on the 
iPad although I wouldn't put it directly into Legacy but would use one of the 
word processing-type apps.  In all of these cases you would just be gathering 
raw data and then entering it into Legacy on your primary system.  II don't 
think it's the best use of your time on a research trip to try and precisely 
source and enter data or transcribe a document on a hand-held device.

That said, the iPad with the Families app and Legacy database have become 
essential tools for me and I'd *hate* to give them up.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy


A "dumb question" here.  I can understand how an "app" like Families on an 
iPad, etc. can help with having your data handy on a research trip.  I can also 
understand how you could do some limited data entry.  What I don't understand 
is how one could reasonably do anything more than minimal data entry.  How in 
the world does one actually type on these things, i.e. write a paragraph or 
three (say transcribe a lengthy will) not just a tweet or text?  (I'm told by a 
30-something niece that the virtual keyboard on an iPad isn't all that 
practical for real typing).

And do source citations actually transfer back and forth seamlessly, without 
them becoming scrambled if they were written with SourceWriter?

Connie




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to cite Ancestry Source

[Marion Werle]

Interesting. I had thought to include such records at the church (actually
synagogue) level, especially since I have a number of delayed birth records
all from the same synagogue, all part of the Drouin Collection as well.
Since all of my Drouin records are all from Montreal, from a variety of
synagogues, your approach would still work, using Montreal as the locality,
and it would certainly be easier to use a more generic locality as the
master source.

Marion

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Kirsten Bowman  wrote:

> Tony:
>
> I just did one  very similar to this yesterday.  It was a marriage record
> from the Drouin Collection of birth and marriage records from all Quebec
> churches from 1621-1962 (also at Ancestry.com).  An extreme "lumper" might
> use the name of the collection as the Master Source but that would create
> rather too much of a record mixture for me.  An extreme "splitter" might do
> as you mention and use the name of the church as the source.  I'm somewhere
> in the middle so I used this:
>
> Marriage records > Found in church records > Church record books > Created
> at local level > Online images.  In the Master Source I left the church name
> and location city *blank* and only listed the state/province as Quebec.  I
> named the Master Source "Marriage Quebec, Drouin."  This same Master Source
> can then be used for marriage records from many different churches and
> towns.  The name of the church, town, and marriage details are entered in
> Source Details on the Source Clipboard.
>
> I'll have another similar Master Source for birth records.
>
> Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:44 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [LegacyUG] How to cite Ancestry Source
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm hoping someone may be able to assist.  I've just found a baptism record
> on Ancestry.  The main heading for the page is London, England, Births and
> Baptisms, 1813-1906 Record for Edwin Timpson and the sub heading is
> Westminster > St Marylebone Christ Church > 1828 > 16.
>
> Now I'm guessing that the overall collection includes records for other
> London areas, plus more churches and years within church.  I don't want one
> source master record at the church level, if I can avoid it, but I can't see
> any Source Writer structure which would allow me to have a higher level
> master and lower level entries.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>
> The original author would be the churchwarden or whoever kept the records
> and ancestry are displaying the records in partnership with the London
> Metropolitan Archives.  How should I reference these levels of ownership??
>
> Any advice would be appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] How to cite Ancestry Source

[Kirsten Bowman]

Tony:

I just did one  very similar to this yesterday.  It was a marriage record from 
the Drouin Collection of birth and marriage records from all Quebec churches 
from 1621-1962 (also at Ancestry.com).  An extreme "lumper" might use the name 
of the collection as the Master Source but that would create rather too much of 
a record mixture for me.  An extreme "splitter" might do as you mention and use 
the name of the church as the source.  I'm somewhere in the middle so I used 
this:

Marriage records > Found in church records > Church record books > Created at 
local level > Online images.  In the Master Source I left the church name and 
location city *blank* and only listed the state/province as Quebec.  I named 
the Master Source "Marriage Quebec, Drouin."  This same Master Source can then 
be used for marriage records from many different churches and towns.  The name 
of the church, town, and marriage details are entered in Source Details on the 
Source Clipboard.

I'll have another similar Master Source for birth records.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [LegacyUG] How to cite Ancestry Source


Hello,

I'm hoping someone may be able to assist.  I've just found a baptism record on 
Ancestry.  The main heading for the page is London, England, Births and 
Baptisms, 1813-1906 Record for Edwin Timpson and the sub heading is Westminster 
> St Marylebone Christ Church > 1828 > 16.

Now I'm guessing that the overall collection includes records for other London 
areas, plus more churches and years within church.  I don't want one source 
master record at the church level, if I can avoid it, but I can't see any 
Source Writer structure which would allow me to have a higher level master and 
lower level entries.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

The original author would be the churchwarden or whoever kept the records and 
ancestry are displaying the records in partnership with the London Metropolitan 
Archives.  How should I reference these levels of ownership??

Any advice would be appreciated

Regards

Tony








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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[Tim Rosenlof]

Viola Mather Hall = 0
Viola Hall = 147 (Probably as expected. Lots of middle names added though)
Viola M Hall = 19 (Viola May Gordon Hall) Hmmm ?

All with the string below.

If this off topic, I give up !

Tim

On 8/13/2011 9:29 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
> I'm having a hard time with the following string with the middle name.
> With middle name, most the time it will not find it, yet without it
> brings me a whole list of "all" the folks with that surname with no
> regard to the first name.
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=[MiddleName]&GSln=[Surname]&GSbyrel=all&GSby=&GSdyrel=all&GSdy=&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Jan Wilson]

I puschased a hand-held a few years back, Palm One, never got the darn thing to 
work. So now it's just a fashion statment sitting next to my computer.
Good luck with hand-held.

From: Tim Rosenlof 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

I'm one that would hope Millennia would just stick to Legacy and let the
third parties continue to interface with such.

Tim

On 8/13/2011 6:31 AM, Bob Rowe wrote:
> It would be great to have Brian or Sherry chime in here. The whole world
> seems to be moving towards handheld devices. I am betting that
> Millennium has some of their developers working on this. My company’s
> developers have been working on this for a couple of years and have the
> first releases out now [not genealogy related].
>
> How about it Support people? Any news on this?
>
> Bob Rowe
>
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>
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> FREE athttp://www.LegacyFamilyTreeStore.com/?click=3550
>
> *From:*Beth [mailto:glassbyb...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2011 8:54 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy
>
> I would like to use a hand held pad of some sort that could handle
> Legacy software. Not interested in the phone features. Any suggestions
> or is someone using one now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Beth
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[BG Johnson]

Tim,

I do not see anything wrong with your search string.  It matches what I have 
and am having no problem with it.  I am not sure how findagrave reacts to a 
middle name vs middle initial.  That is will findagrave find Mary Lou Johnson 
if the name entered is Mary L. Johnson.

I do know it works better if you add a location.  Legacy does not provide for 
passing a location and it must be added as a refinement after you arrive at the 
site.  I have asked that the list of variables be expanded to include location 
and spouse information.  To date have not heard if it fell on deaf ears or not.



-Original Message-
From: Tim Rosenlof [mailto:spa...@xmission.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

I'm having a hard time with the following string with the middle name.
With middle name, most the time it will not find it, yet without it brings me a 
whole list of "all" the folks with that surname with no regard to the first 
name.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=[MiddleName]&GSln=[Surname]&GSbyrel=all&GSby=&GSdyrel=all&GSdy=&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n

Thoughts ?

Tim




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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Sherry/Support]

Families is available through our online store for iPhone, iPad and
iPod Touch as well as for Android. However, since these programs  have
to be purchased through the iPhone or Android market places, we can
only link you to those site - we don't actually sell them.

Another program, which I really like is GedStar for Android. I used to
use GedStar on my Palm and the Android version is very much like the
Palm version.

Pocket Genealogist is available for Windows Mobile, but from what I
understand, there are not any genealogy programs available for WIndows
Phone 7 yet.

All of these programs can directly import Legacy files into the
correct format for iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch and Android.

Sincerely,
Sherry
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> It would be great to have Brian or Sherry chime in here. The whole world
> seems to be moving towards handheld devices. I am betting that Millennium
> has some of their developers working on this. My company’s developers have
> been working on this for a couple of years and have the first releases out
> now [not genealogy related].
>
>
>
> How about it Support people? Any news on this?
>
>
>
> Bob Rowe


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Re: [LegacyUG] List of ancestors

[Cathy-0]

You could print out a Pedigree Report for each of the ten people.

However, if you wanted something in book format, you could print out an 
Ancestor Book for each person.  This could contain all the events and  
information which you found on each person in their respect ancestries.  If you 
decide not to print all the events, the Ancestor Book looks more like an 
Ahnentafel report.

What I really like is a Fan Chart by using Legacy Charting. The Fan Chart is 
also nice for framing.

In the end,  it depends on what you like.
  - Original Message -
  From: Lorry Wendland
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] List of ancestors


  I want to give a personal ancestral report to each of the 10 people.



  On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Robert E. Carneal 
 wrote:

I am confused.  Let's say you have ten =people at reunion. Do you want
to give each of the ten an ancestral report applicable to that one
person, or do you want to print *your* ancestral report and give a
copy to everyone.

Thank you.

Robert


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Lorry Wendland  wrote:
>
> How do I make a report of direct ancestors of only one family?
>
> I'm planning a family reunion and want to give people who attend a list 
of their ancestors in that family ONLY.
>
> Thanks



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Re: [LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[Tim Rosenlof]

Well.

After further review, all is well !

Tim

On 8/13/2011 9:29 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
> I'm having a hard time with the following string with the middle name.
> With middle name, most the time it will not find it, yet without it
> brings me a whole list of "all" the folks with that surname with no
> regard to the first name.
>
> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=[MiddleName]&GSln=[Surname]&GSbyrel=all&GSby=&GSdyrel=all&GSdy=&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Brian/Support]

Any time you have to use a GEDCOM to interface to an external
application you are going to have sources that are Basic Style since the
GEDCOM standard does not allow for the detailed field specifications
that are needed for SourceWriter style sources. When the SourceWriter
was developed the programmers did not modify the GEDCOM export code to
create new custom tags for the SourceWriter sources. If the application
can open a Legacy Family file directly then it may preserve the
SourceWriter style sources. All the Legacy Add-on programs for mobile
appliances, Pocket Genealogist for pocket PC based devices, Families for
the Iphone, Ipad and Ipod touch and Families for Android read the Legacy
Family File directly.

I do not own any of those mobile devices so I have never used any of the
mobile apps in order to comment further.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
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On 13/08/2011 9:43 AM, Connie Sheets wrote:
> A "dumb question" here.  I can understand how an "app" like Families on an 
> iPad, etc. can help with having your data handy on a research trip.  I can 
> also understand how you could do some limited data entry.  What I don't 
> understand is how one could reasonably do anything more than minimal data 
> entry.  How in the world does one actually type on these things, i.e. write a 
> paragraph or three (say transcribe a lengthy will) not just a tweet or text?  
> (I'm told by a 30-something niece that the virtual keyboard on an iPad isn't 
> all that practical for real typing).
>
> And do source citations actually transfer back and forth seamlessly, without 
> them becoming scrambled if they were written with SourceWriter?
>
> Connie


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[LegacyUG] Find A Grave

[Tim Rosenlof]

I'm having a hard time with the following string with the middle name.
With middle name, most the time it will not find it, yet without it
brings me a whole list of "all" the folks with that surname with no
regard to the first name.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=[FirstName]&GSmn=[MiddleName]&GSln=[Surname]&GSbyrel=all&GSby=&GSdyrel=all&GSdy=&GScntry=0&GSst=0&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n

Thoughts ?

Tim


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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Tim Rosenlof]

I'm one that would hope Millennia would just stick to Legacy and let the
third parties continue to interface with such.

Tim

On 8/13/2011 6:31 AM, Bob Rowe wrote:
> It would be great to have Brian or Sherry chime in here. The whole world
> seems to be moving towards handheld devices. I am betting that
> Millennium has some of their developers working on this. My company’s
> developers have been working on this for a couple of years and have the
> first releases out now [not genealogy related].
>
> How about it Support people? Any news on this?
>
> Bob Rowe
>
> Into Genealogy?
>
> Legacy Family Tree is changing the world of genealogy! Download it today
> FREE athttp://www.LegacyFamilyTreeStore.com/?click=3550
>
> *From:*Beth [mailto:glassbyb...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2011 8:54 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy
>
> I would like to use a hand held pad of some sort that could handle
> Legacy software. Not interested in the phone features. Any suggestions
> or is someone using one now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Beth
>
> www.Beth-website.net 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Connie Sheets]

A "dumb question" here.  I can understand how an "app" like Families on an 
iPad, etc. can help with having your data handy on a research trip.  I can also 
understand how you could do some limited data entry.  What I don't understand 
is how one could reasonably do anything more than minimal data entry.  How in 
the world does one actually type on these things, i.e. write a paragraph or 
three (say transcribe a lengthy will) not just a tweet or text?  (I'm told by a 
30-something niece that the virtual keyboard on an iPad isn't all that 
practical for real typing).

And do source citations actually transfer back and forth seamlessly, without 
them becoming scrambled if they were written with SourceWriter?

Connie




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System #2

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/08/13 15:23, Priscilla Glasow wrote:

> 1.  Why do you first save images as TIFFs, then convert to JPEG?  Why not save
> as JPEGs from the beginning?

TIFF generally retains fine details better than JPEG. JPEG is a 'lossy' format.
The more times that you edit a JPEG image and overwrite it, the more it loses
definition. You can edit a TIFF image and the finer details will not be lost
even if you overwrite the original. TIFF files are always larger than JPEGs, but
that's because they contain more and finer details. TIFF is good for 
enlargements.

So! Make your 'master' or 'archive' copies TIFF files, and create JPEG 'copies'
from the masters.

Of course, your master could always be a JPEG so long as you treat it as a
read-only image and don't save an edited version back over it.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Name Filing System #2

[Priscilla Glasow]

Wes - Your approach seems logical, although I have a few questions:

1.  Why do you first save images as TIFFs, then convert to JPEG?  Why not
save as JPEGs from the beginning?
2.  Where and how do you maintain original documents, such as birth
certificates?  Should these be kept in a safe?
3.  Is there a need to keep hard copy file folders/binder systems if you use
electronic files?  What might you keep in hard copy (other than original
documents)?
4.  Do you treat photographs differently from documents?
5.  Is it correct that you save all images in your Legacy Data folder, then
duplicate some of them into the Legacy Pictures folder so they can be linked
to your sources in the Picture Gallery and saved as part of the Multimedia
Files backup?
6.  Why did you create a Legacy Data folder instead of using the Data folder
that Legacy automatically sets up?

Many thanks in advance!
Priscilla

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Wes  wrote:

> I have a C:\Data Folder which is backed up daily.  A full backup once a
> week with an incremental daily.  Within this is my /LegacyData folder
> with sub-folders for photos, documents, etc. Within each of these
> subfolders is a folder for each family subdivided by individual.  The
> individual is identified by FirstName, Middle Initial and birthdate.
>
> So
>
> C:/Data
>/LegacyData
>  /Photos
> /Harbaugh
>/GeorgeA1898
>  /Documents
>   /Harbaugh
> /GeorgeA1898
>
> I keep all original photo scans as 1200 dpi 24 bit color or grey or
> black and white as the case may be.  The format is always TIFF.  I then
> process the photo to web enhanced jpg.  Any documents are saved as PDF.
>
> Just my .02  It works for me and I can find any file almost immediately.
>
> Wes Jester
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand Held Devices for Legacy

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I used GedStar Pro on my Palm with another genealogy program for many years.
It's an excellent program.

Now I have an iPod and an iPad. I use Legacy so I use Families. I tried
several programs including FamViewer and GedViewer on the iPad. GedViewer,
to my mind, is better than FamViewer. Quite a bit cheaper too.

I think it depends on what you want. Look at the features. Do you want to
enter data and have it transfer back to your program? Not all do that. Are
you okay with making a new GEDcom and transferring that? Is it critical to
you to have pictures and assorted other items or do you just want the basic
data at your fingertips? What is the most important thing for you?

I don't care much for the apps on the iPod. Might be age but the screen is
too small.

In 2001 it was a wow moment when I pulled up my data on my Palm at the
Clerk's office. Now I assume it is pretty mundane.

Cheryl


On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:41 PM, hwedhlor  wrote:

>  Sorry, I should have mentioned that the Families app is
> also available for Android-based devices.
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
> On 8/12/2011 9:39 PM, hwedhlor wrote:
> >The Families app for iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad is capable of
> > displaying your Legacy databases in great detail, including
> > photos, family and pedigree formats, and searches by
> > surname, and can be used to enter data, then synced with
> > your Legacy database on your PC.  The Families app is
> > manufactured by TelGen and you may see screen shots, a
> > description and user reviews at at
> > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/families/id37961901?mt=8, or
> > by Google search for "Families app".  I use Families on both
> > my iPhone and iPad 2, and like it very much.  It saves me
> > carrying a laptop on research trips.
> >
> > John Zimmerman
> > Mesa, AZ
> >
> > On 8/12/2011 6:54 PM, Beth wrote:
> >> I would like to use a hand held pad of some sort that
> >> could handle Legacy software.  Not interested in the phone
> >> features.  Any suggestions or is someone using one now?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Beth
> >> www.Beth-website.net
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